Who has to drop out to make Scarborough viable for the GOP nomination?

posted at 6:01 pm on February 10, 2014 by Allahpundit

I was planning to write about this before Ed beat me to the punch so let me ask my two questions belatedly. One: Would this be a bona fide run to try to win the nomination or a niche candidacy a la John Bolton or Peter King? King and/or Bolton won’t run because they think they can win but because they want someone to answer Rand Paul on foreign policy and don’t trust any of the big-name candidates to do it effectively. Scarborough may feel the same way about Ted Cruz’s brand of tea-party conservatism. He won’t do any better than Huntsman did with “No Labels” style Republicanism, but he can land some shots on the right at the debates and maybe serve as a lightning rod to draw conservative attacks away from a more plausible centrist nominee. He’d be in it to win it — not for himself, but for the centrist wing of the party.

Two: If he is in it to win it for himself, how does that happen, exactly? There are no fewer than five major candidates thinking of running who could plausibly serve as a centrist champion in 2016 — Christie, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, and Scott Walker. Walker is slightly different from the other four in that he still enjoys enormous credibility among conservatives for winning his fight with the public-employee unions in Wisconsin, but as a low-key governor and midwesterner who’s agreeable on immigration, he’d have no problem getting the GOP establishment to line up behind him if the alternative is Rand Paul or Ted Cruz. Scarborough is basically the sixth man off the bench here. I can imagine Christie blowing up before the primary campaign gets going (it may be happening already, in fact); I can imagine Jeb deciding the “Bush” name is too high a hurdle; I can imagine Rubio concluding it’s smarter to protect his Senate seat right now than to roll the dice on the presidency; I can imagine Ryan passing because he’d rather set America’s fiscal agenda as chairman of Ways and Means; and I can imagine Walker losing his gubernatorial reelection bid in a massive push by Wisconsin’s left. What I can’t imagine is all five of those things happening, leaving a giant hole in the center that no one more prominent than Joe Scarborough is tempted to try to fill. Even Bobby Jindal, whose brand is conservative, would probably tack left to become the centrist candidate if a vacuum that big opened up. Any one of those guys would be a natural pick over a guy who served six years in the House and is now known for being the most conservative host on the most over-the-top liberal media organ in America. And of course, if Scarborough ran anyway, it’s as likely that he’d siphon off key votes from the centrist/establishment champion as he’d help that guy bloody the nose of the right. (New Hampshire 2016: Rand Paul 40%, Jeb Bush 35%, Scarborough 10%?) Why run to win if you’re the sixth man?

Oh well. Here’s a clip via Politico that raised an eyebrow this morning after I saw the “Scarborough 2016?” item at the Caller — Citizen Joe nudging his pal Chris Christie towards the exit at the RGA, knowing full well that if Christie quits that group, it means he’s all but done as a presidential candidate. Hmmmm.


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Who has to drop out to make Scarborough viable for the GOP nomination?

Tom Huntsman.

whatcat on February 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Um, everybody?

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Who has to drop out to make Scarborough viable for the GOP nomination?

Everybody, including Jim Huntsman?

Valkyriepundit on February 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM

The population of earth and Jupiter.

Marxism is for dummies on February 10, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Everyone, including Bishop.

Red Cloud on February 10, 2014 at 6:05 PM

New Hampshire 2016: Rand Paul 40%, Jeb Bush 35%, Scarborough 10%?

Oh, from your lips to God’s ears…

JohnGalt23 on February 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM

he’d siphon off key votes from the centrist/establishment champion as he’d help that guy bloody the nose of the right. (New Hampshire 2016: Rand Paul 40%, Jeb Bush 35%, Scarborough 10%?) Why run to win if you’re the sixth man?

Because the campaign is very long and he could get into a dozen debates and do a 100 interviews before New Hampshire even happens. And he could then drop out before New Hampshire or definitely Florida. The damage would be done by then.

His purpose would be to attack conservatives and block for Jeb Bush.

KMav on February 10, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Heck, I bet Obama has a better chance at the GOP nomination than Scarborough.

A MUCH better chance, in fact.

Vanceone on February 10, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Never going to happen, because: Lori Klausutis.

It’s not fair at all. But it is what it is.

BocaJuniors on February 10, 2014 at 6:09 PM

I love that no one can remember Huntsman’s first name ;)

alwaysfiredup on February 10, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Darth Vader!

jainphx on February 10, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Who has to drop out to make Scarborough viable for the GOP nomination?

Anyone who’s ever been brought up in an internet article as a possible contender. And every HotAir poster would also have to swear off a run for POTUS.

That goes for Allahpundit too. He could run while still retaining his anonymity and beat Scarborough.

Stoic Patriot on February 10, 2014 at 6:12 PM

If all those mentioned disappeared, dropped out, or just said ‘are you nuts?’, plus the past two nominees wanting no part of this, then you would have Scarborough vs Palin who would be the last viable person left on the top shelf.

And Scarborough definitely is down on the bottom shelf, with the Huntsman and Huckabee brands.

ajacksonian on February 10, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Ahhh the Joke of the Day.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 10, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Eric Huntsman is so delusional that he thinks he can win on the pro-backstabbing platform?

vityas on February 10, 2014 at 6:13 PM

I love that no one can remember Huntsman’s first name ;)

alwaysfiredup on February 10, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Who?

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 10, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Hillary.

AubieJon on February 10, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Hilldebeast Clinton. Oh you meant the GOP nomination? My bad.

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 6:14 PM

And that idiotic hairdo. Looks like he could be Garth’s dad.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Oh…you said GOP. My bad.

AubieJon on February 10, 2014 at 6:14 PM

That goes for Allahpundit too. He could run while still retaining his anonymity and beat Scarborough.

Stoic Patriot on February 10, 2014 at 6:12 PM

The same goes for Allahs cats.

Valkyriepundit on February 10, 2014 at 6:15 PM

I love that no one can remember Huntsman’s first name ;)

alwaysfiredup on February 10, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Tell me about it.

How hard is it to remember the name Skip Huntsman?

Sheesh

Vero Beach Florida on February 10, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Um, everybody?

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Your rent is due on the 15th ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 6:16 PM

King and/or Bolton won’t run because they think they can win but because they want someone to answer Rand Paul on foreign policy and don’t trust any of the big-name candidates to do it effectively.

Like they can defend that Islamic Nation Building, Trillion Dollar Bridges To Nowhere, with American troops as Lab Lats for their Mad Hatter Sociology Experiments crap any better? Sure. Maybe Bolton can sing songs about how he evaded the draft during Vietnam.

And what the hell is a Scarborough? A brand of cigarettes?

VorDaj on February 10, 2014 at 6:17 PM

Two: If he is in it to win it for himself, how does that happen, exactly?

By making all the other candidates so stunned by his candidacy that they don’t campaign at all.

rbj on February 10, 2014 at 6:17 PM

I was planning to write about this before Ed beat me to the punch so let me ask my two questions belatedly. One: Would this be a bona fide run to try to win the nomination or a niche candidacy a la John Bolton or Peter King? King and/or Bolton won’t run because they think they can win but because they want someone to answer Rand Paul on foreign policy and don’t trust any of the big-name candidates to do it effectively.

It would make sense for Scarborough to run if he was trying to push the party in a certain direction on a single issue. (See Tancredo in 2007) Playing the centrist/No Labels/Huntsman role across the board wouldn’t accomplishment anything for him and would only be a waste of time and money. Preston Huntsman’s polling data from Iowa was brutal and he could only muster 16% in New Hampshire despite basically living there for two years.

midgeorgian on February 10, 2014 at 6:17 PM

The same goes for Allahs cats.

Valkyriepundit on February 10, 2014 at 6:15 PM

No chance any of the puddy-tats will be confused with Scarborough, is there?

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Hey! He could switch parties! That would get him somewhere…

By being to the right of everyone else in the party, that would push them all to the farthest Left.

That would be fun to watch.

ajacksonian on February 10, 2014 at 6:21 PM

Aw Geez. Another thread about marijuana.

WryTrvllr on February 10, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Walker is slightly different from the other four in that he still enjoys enormous credibility among conservatives for winning his fight with the public-employee unions in Wisconsin, but as a low-key governor and midwesterner who’s agreeable on immigration, he’d have no problem getting the GOP establishment to line up behind him if the alternative is Rand Paul or Ted Cruz.

-Allahpundit

Why do we say someone is agreeable with Dems and GOP Establishment on “immigration” when they are in favor of illegal alien amnesty. It should be called what it is: favoring illegal alien amnesty. The term “immigration reform” only helps obscure and put a positive spin on something most people strongly oppose. It is like insisting on referring to Obamacare as the “affordable care act.”

Establishment darling Scott Walker is in favor of illegal alien amnesty. Walker may be a good governor, but he would make a terrible presidential candidate.

VIDEO – Scott Walker says “Sure!” to illegal alien amnesty. Skip to last seconds of video:
http://youtu.be/PJ6cXpFrk0c

We have borders and immigration standards for reason, and we ought to be enforcing our immigration laws.

I would take a conservative like Ted Cruz any day over the Jeb Bush cheerleader Scott Walker. I am also interested to see where Republican Governors like Susanna Martinez come down on the issue.

I will never, ever support a pro-amnesty candidate.

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 6:22 PM

scarborough has been stealing charity funds to build his “war chest”. mika has be waxing it.

crash72 on February 10, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Leroy Huntsman is Dwight Scarborough!

redware on February 10, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Also, Scott Walker is like a Tim Pawlenty with less charisma. Extremely dull.

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 6:23 PM

As for Joe Scarborough, I doubt he will run. He would have to leave his job.

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 6:26 PM

No chance any of the puddy-tats will be confused with Scarborough, is there?

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Nope, they would be more discernibly conservative.

Valkyriepundit on February 10, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Nope, they would be more discernibly conservative.

Valkyriepundit on February 10, 2014 at 6:26 PM

*Whew!* That’s a relief–until their latent Libertarian streaks show themselves :o

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 6:28 PM

Who has to drop out to make Scarborough viable for the GOP nomination?

Everybody on the face of God’s Green Earth!

Solaratov on February 10, 2014 at 6:30 PM

I thought it said “Who has to make out…” and almost hurled.

Stupid Dylsexia!!!

Laura in Maryland on February 10, 2014 at 6:31 PM

Bobby Heenan is still laughing about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afNOqwJrT8s#t=3m21.5s

cdog0613 on February 10, 2014 at 6:32 PM

No, to the Morning Schmoe. A guy with only 6 years experience in the House – who attacks conservatives on a regular basis? In his district, he never even had a tough race for congress.

TarheelBen on February 10, 2014 at 6:37 PM

Lizard Man.

But I’m thinking McCain won’t drop out.

Bishop on February 10, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Wait! A back bencher for 2-1/2 terms in Congress, a $7 million year salaried useful idiot for Obama, and a dead intern?

Yep..that’s our guy

beedubya on February 10, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Captnjoe for POTUS 2016!!!!!

When do I get my Hot Air banner headline article?

captnjoe on February 10, 2014 at 6:42 PM

The endgame is a 2017 commercial on MSNBC: Joe Scarborough, former Presidential Candidate. He doesn’t even have to win the nomination, or even any primary states. Just running is enough.

Fenris on February 10, 2014 at 6:44 PM

This guy repulses me. I always remember him high on opiates calling in an attacking Bush for his performance in the 2004 debate, ignoring the fact that Bush was out all day in 100 degree humid weather talking to hurricane victims.

Blake on February 10, 2014 at 6:44 PM

We conservatives are going to need a real fighter in the white house. The libs will have had 8 years infiltrating every nook and cranny of the government with lib ideologs. The only people who have shown public courage has been Cruz and Palin. The MSM destroyed Palin. If not Cruz, then I think we will have to endure trouble in every Gov dept.

the sidewalks are safe on February 10, 2014 at 6:45 PM

We are already “enduring trouble in every Gov dept.”.

captnjoe on February 10, 2014 at 6:45 PM

there”s really kind of a serious story here…..one impact of barry making a slash due to his charm and celebrity…everyone thinks they can be prezy….being no the teevee is proof positive…right?

huckaboo can be prezy and scarborough can be prezy…so there. simple.

just because neither has been in office in a couple of decades..so what they are Cute and brimming with Personality…just ask them

r keller on February 10, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Well, one good thing can come of all this: If Morning Schmoe DOES run for POTUS, there will be no more Morning Schmoe.

Wait…does that mean Mika will run for Veep? She’s got the credentials. Just say’n.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 6:48 PM

I am tired of hearing the Allahpundits, Rinos, other so-called republicans and national politicians tell me that we can’t nominate so-and-so because he/she/it is sure to lose because they are too conservative. Well, the republicans have followed their advice for 30 years, and what did it get them. It got them exactly what the dhimocrapts wanted. No wonder everyone calls the republican party the stupid party.

What the national republicans want is not to win elections, is not to control the legislature or nominate/confirm justices, but to CONTROL the republican party, at the exclusion of everything else, including common sense. Tell me, all you national republican idiots, how many MORE presidents or congress-critters can or will we elect listening to you. You have performed perfect service for the dhimocrapt-communists. Last chance. New party after 2014 if we do not have complete support from the DC beltway republicans. Your only chance after that is pitchforks.

Old Country Boy on February 10, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Second look at Billary?????

Eph on February 10, 2014 at 6:49 PM

We are already “enduring trouble in every Gov dept.”.

captnjoe on February 10, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Correction: “continue to”

the sidewalks are safe on February 10, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Maybe he could run third party or on the Democratic ticket. Only the lunatics at NBC could conceive of him getting any Republican votes. And I think you have to poll at a certain percent to get in the debates, right?

talkingpoints on February 10, 2014 at 6:50 PM

I wish Ralph Nader would run again.

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 6:53 PM

talkingpoints on February 10, 2014 at 6:50 PM

I would recommend The Kool-Aid Party.

And yes–1%. Gee, will that create a problem? :0

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Nader was good at taking Democrat votes. Run, Ralph, run!

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Who has to drop out to make Scarborough viable for the GOP nomination?

Everyone! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRIr9MNmCwU

Capp on February 10, 2014 at 6:57 PM

So Scarborough wants to be our new Don Huntsman. Can he speak Mandarin? Does he have a motorcycle? Because I like my fake Republican candidates to ride motorcycles and speak Mandarin, I can’t see voting for him if he doesn’t.

magicbeans on February 10, 2014 at 7:02 PM

magicbeans on February 10, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Mmmmm…mandarins…

Wait–oranges can TALK??

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM

The dims would give Joe all the money he wants if he would run third party. That would be their dream situation.

rik on February 10, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Mika as FLOTUS will be dumber than Michelle.

Schadenfreude on February 10, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Who has to drop out to make Scarborough viable for the GOP nomination?

And the punchlines never end.

Ok, treating it like a serious question: everyone.

But wasn’t that pretty much the point of your entire post?

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 10, 2014 at 7:11 PM

It was a joke on the earlier thread and it’s still a big fat f’in joke.

KirknBurker on February 10, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Who has to drop out to make Scarborough viable for the GOP nomination?

And the punchlines never end.

Ok, treating it like a serious question: everyone.

But wasn’t that pretty much the point of your entire post?

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 10, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Looks like “everyone” is pretty much the consensus.

Tough crowd.

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 10, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Who has to drop out to make Scarborough viable for the GOP nomination?

Huh?

Scarborough is a raging liberal – why would anyone even consider him for the GOP nomination? The truth is that, no one would.

Now, if Scarborough wants to run for democrat nomination, he might have a chance, if Joe Biden drops out.

Pork-Chop on February 10, 2014 at 7:28 PM

No chance any of the puddy-tats will be confused with Scarborough, is there?

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Not in a million…

PeskyPuddyTat on February 10, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Ok, treating it like a serious question: everyone.

But wasn’t that pretty much the point of your entire post?

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 10, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Welcome to the neighborhood. Well played.

Jaibones on February 10, 2014 at 7:34 PM

No chance any of the puddy-tats will be confused with Scarborough, is there?

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Naw, the kitties are cute.

Laura Castellano on February 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM

PeskyPuddyTat on February 10, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Well, hush mah mouth and call me “Cornpone”

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 7:44 PM

Who has to drop out to make Scarborough viable for the GOP nomination?

Tom Huntsman.

whatcat on February 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Don’t forget Johnny Johnson.

slickwillie2001 on February 10, 2014 at 7:45 PM

I would take a conservative like Ted Cruz any day over the Jeb Bush cheerleader Scott Walker. I am also interested to see where Republican Governors like Susanna Martinez come down on the issue.

I will never, ever support a pro-amnesty candidate.

bluegill

Martinez supports amnesty. Now, she’ll tell you she doesn’t support amnesty but supports legalizing illegals. In other words, amnesty, lol.

xblade on February 10, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Wait–oranges can TALK??

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM

If you smoke enough pot…

Laura Castellano on February 10, 2014 at 7:48 PM

FOr Scarborough to be Presidential material, the majority of the Republican field would have to drop dead. Scarborough has spent way too many years at MSNBC, dissing the tea party, disparaging the conservatives, throwing stones at the Republican leadership, to get much support from any group. Let’s face it, if he were anti-establishment, he could get tea party support, when you diss both sides, what do you have left?

bflat879 on February 10, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Moaning Joe is NOT viable for GOP..:)

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 8:05 PM

As for Joe Scarborough, I doubt he will run. He would have to leave his job.

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 6:26 PM

That’s why it would be a good thing. Especially since we wouldn’t have to deal with his Socialist whininess (that, mind you, no one watches in real time) on QOTD threads.

Never going to happen, because: Lori Klausutis.

It’s not fair at all. But it is what it is.

BocaJuniors on February 10, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Why do you think he got the MSNBC gig in the first place?

Myron Falwell on February 10, 2014 at 8:14 PM

Laura Castellano on February 10, 2014 at 7:48 PM

;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Well, hush mah mouth and call me “Cornpone”

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 7:44 PM

:-D *Joe faw down and go BOOM*

PeskyPuddyTat on February 10, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Never going to happen, because: Lori Klausutis.

It’s not fair at all. But it is what it is.

BocaJuniors on February 10, 2014 at 6:09 PM

How is it “not fair” to Joe? While he wasn’t in town when she died, neither was he forthcoming about what he knew and their relationship. He also never offered a full explanation for resigning from Congress just after being reelected.

If you are going to act like you are guilty of something, don’t complain it is “unfair” for people to suspect you are.

Not that he is remotely qualified even if he came clean and was clean. Why, he barely has more experience than Obama.

Adjoran on February 10, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Larry Craig.

tte415f on February 10, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Martinez supports amnesty. Now, she’ll tell you she doesn’t support amnesty but supports legalizing illegals. In other words, amnesty, lol.
xblade on February 10, 2014 at 7:46 PM

A shame. She’s no longer someone I would consider for president now.

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 10:03 PM

Good grief, another Scarborough thread. Is he the new Christie? That promo pic of him in the snug orange trousers is enough to sink any imaginary candidacy.

polly2150 on February 10, 2014 at 10:31 PM

This guy.

S. D. on February 10, 2014 at 10:35 PM

Is this thread serious? Scarborough is a non factor in the conservative movement and Republican politics. He’d be lucky to get Larry Huntsman type numbers.

therightwinger on February 11, 2014 at 4:05 AM

Who has to drop out?
Anybody who passes
Dead Girl/Live Boy Test

Haiku Guy on February 11, 2014 at 5:31 AM

What difference at this point, does it make?

Brock Robamney on February 11, 2014 at 8:22 AM

Who is currently holding the GOP smu*k slot?

katiejane on February 11, 2014 at 9:52 AM

I will never, ever support a pro-amnesty candidate.

Neither will I, BUT I’LL VOTE FORHIM/HER IF (S)HE IS THE CANDIDATE. So many stayed home because they didn’t like Romney that we got what we got.

Do you want to do that again?

Public pressure can cause a pro amnesty president to change his mind.

EL on February 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM

If anyone at all has ever listened to this idiot (who makes our President seem consistent and truthful) every Republican in whatever political unit applied to his candidacy would have to withdraw…and even then he wouldn’t get a vote (well, maybe his own). He doesn’t even reach the category of RHINO. He is a democrat in ideology and an appeaser in style.

TKPedersen42 on February 11, 2014 at 3:28 PM

No More RINOs. What part of no doesn’t the RNC understand? There is NO WAY I will vote for a RINO. ………………

nobama1267 on February 11, 2014 at 4:03 PM