Video: NFL prospect comes out as gay

posted at 9:21 am on February 10, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

“I may be the first,” Michael Sam told the New York Times, “but I won’t be the last.” The top-ranked NFL prospect from the University of Missouri became the first athlete to come out as gay before his NFL draft — and will be the first openly-gay athlete in the league once he signs with a team. And that will be inevitable, given his All-American status:

Just how big of a deal is this? It’s long been speculated that a number of athletes in the NFL, NBA, and major-league baseball are gay, but closeted — fearful of public disapproval and harassment by teammates. The Times frames the story in that direction:

But the N.F.L. presents the potential for unusual challenges. In the past year or so, it has been embroiled in controversies ranging from antigay statements from players to reports that scouts asked at least one prospective player if he liked girls. Recently, Chris Kluwe, a punter, said that he was subject to homophobic language from coaches and pushed out of a job with the Minnesota Vikings because he vocally supported same-sex marriage laws. And last week, Jonathan Vilma, a New Orleans Saints linebacker, said in an interview with NFL Network that he did not want a gay teammate.

“I think he would not be accepted as much as we think he would be accepted,” said Mr. Vilma, a 10-year league veteran.

In a statement Sunday night, the league said: “We admire Michael Sam’s honesty and courage. Michael is a football player. Any player with ability and determination can succeed in the N.F.L. We look forward to welcoming and supporting Michael Sam in 2014.”

It’s worth noting that the Vikings vehemently challenge Kluwe’s version of events, too. And even if there is a residual “macho” mindset against gay athletes in the league, it’s not going to last for long. Americans have been rapidly more tolerant of gay and lesbian participants in the arts, in politics, and in other sports, notably women’s professional sports for decades now. For most people, the addition of professional men’s sports to that cultural shift will be a non-story. The NFL is not immune to the forces of the larger culture, after all.

If NFL fans want to get angry over something, how about focusing on how the league, its owners, and yes its players too hold cities for ransom to shake down taxpayers to fund their playgrounds? I’m a lot more concerned with that than with the private decisions made by consenting adults in their companionship off the field.

Update: According to Conn Carroll (and some commenters), Sam is a mid-level prospect:

https://twitter.com/conncarroll/status/432882490303213568

Duly noted, and I’ve changed the headline. But a senior who’s a first-team All-American coming off a big year is still going to be a significant prospect.


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Blue Collar Todd on February 10, 2014 at 9:53 AM

Your beliefs are your own – no one has the ability to change them – only you can do that.

Individual choice is still with us.

jake-the-goose on February 10, 2014 at 9:56 AM

He told closer friends on the team a number of years ago, watch the ESPN interview with his closest friend on the team. And, I’ll point out, that he had an amazing season *after* coming out, clearly this does nothing to negatively impact performance or team cohesion.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM

The reason ESPN was also talking about him as a Day 2 pick was because Sam in undersized for a D-lineman. If he’s got enough speed to cover TE’s there’s a possibility of switching him to linebacker, but he’s not an automatic starter due to those questions (Day 2 picks often end up as ‘situational’ players, going in on run or pass downs. We’ll see how it works out, but odds are we’re going to know more about the play-to-play grading out of Sam in the 2014 preseason than we are any other rookie player in the upcoming draft).

jon1979 on February 10, 2014 at 9:56 AM

Woke up. Sparked a bowl. Made myself a Bloody Mary and some Feta cheese scrambie eggs, hopped on HotAir to check the latest, and I find this thread with all the usual whiny wingnuts.

LeftoCenter on February 10, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Conservative parody of a liberal or Colorado resident?

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 9:56 AM

What would the media be saying if an NFL QB came out and said, I had 4 women in my bed last night and 1 was a sports reporter?

docflash on February 10, 2014 at 9:56 AM

Face the facts baggers.

LeftoCenter on February 10, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Oh look, a tolerant liberal.

fogw on February 10, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Except that Tim Tebow’s brief NFL career was entirely launched by organized evangelical pressure and promotion of a QB who couldn’t throw the football properly. And at the time, the social cons had no problem and couldn’t understand why we all couldn’t support the “brave” Tim Tebow who was “living his truth” by sharing his faith and “Tebowing” and not having sex before marriage and blah blah blah. We knew more about Tebow’s struggle with abstinence and his mother’s relationship to abortion (to very private matters) than we know about Michael Sam’s sex life. And yet still you will claim that Sam is “shoving it in your face.” The hypocrisy is immense.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 9:53 AM

Shocking. Players promote themselves?

And the media finds Christians weird people it cannot understand and can’t help but mock?

There’s also the Christian Olympic athlete the media obsessed over because she’s a virgin. It’s almost like the media is obsessed with it or something.

gwelf on February 10, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Leftocenter……coming from someone who is so tolerant calling posters ‘baggers’

Go back to your rice krispies

cmsinaz on February 10, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Lighten up on Philly.

fogw on February 10, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Oh please. Eagles fans booed Santa. And that “Bat Day” at a Phillies game is what legends are made of. It is more than just a few bad eggs.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 9:58 AM

“If I had a son, I wouldn’t let him play pro football…” – The One

Hmmmmmm…

Electrongod on February 10, 2014 at 9:58 AM

The reason ESPN was also talking about him as a Day 2 pick was because Sam in undersized for a D-lineman. If he’s got enough speed to cover TE’s there’s a possibility of switching him to linebacker, but he’s not an automatic starter due to those questions (Day 2 picks often end up as ‘situational’ players, going in on run or pass downs. We’ll see how it works out, but odds are we’re going to know more about the play-to-play grading out of Sam in the 2014 preseason than we are any other rookie player in the upcoming draft).

jon1979 on February 10, 2014 at 9:56 AM

We will definitely see out-of-proportion coverage about Michael Sam on ESPN.

To be fair, they used to be the network of Terrell Owens, Brett Favre, and Tim Tebow, among others.

22044 on February 10, 2014 at 9:58 AM

22044 on February 10, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Strange bird that one, eh? Can’t make a single comment without throwing down an insult. Yet not smart enough to learn to quote. He won’t last long.

Bmore on February 10, 2014 at 9:58 AM

She embarrassed herself, talking over Will and the others. Maybe she feels good about acting that way on her own show, but on this occasion she was just out of line.

MJBrutus on February 10, 2014 at 9:55 AM

I disagree. She was awesome. When she shoved visa overstaying down Will’s throat, I laughed out loud.

BuckeyeSam on February 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM

libfree is really more unhinged than usual this morning.

gwelf on February 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM

It’s a myth that homosexuality is more accepted today.

How many states have voted to legalize homosexual marriage? Maybe Two?

Forget the polls. Football is a man’s sport. And those who are less than men won’t be accepted.

Bigbullets on February 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM

but to boo Santa Claus…. 307wolverine on February 10, 2014 at 9:51 AM

Santa got booed because he weighed 160 lbs. The actor didn’t show up so they just grabbed some grounds keeper guy or whatever, and made him play Santa. I don’t know if he was gay.

Akzed on February 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM

He told closer friends on the team a number of years ago,
libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM

So he supposedly confided his secret to some of his very close friends, “a number of years ago”. That’s a bit different than telling all his teammates in college years before he came a prospect as you originally stated. You always have to change your story when called out as to the dishonesty of your statements. Typical troll.

tommyboy on February 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Oh look, a tolerant liberal.

fogw on February 10, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Yes, it was here the other day to engage in some truly classy debate about religion. I believe the term it used then was ‘half-retarded chimps’. It then wondered why no one would answer its inane questions.

The over/under on the banhammer is two weeks.

Art Vandelay on February 10, 2014 at 10:00 AM

jon1979 on February 10, 2014 at 9:56 AM

So if he ultimately comes up short physically for the NFL, will gay-advocates blame it on “lack of support” by his team members?

Frankly, I wouldn’t draft him at all. His self-generated media circus aside, there is no winning side for a team to pick him up beyond a press release (before he has even taken the field) about tolerance. I’m not sure that is worth all the other crap that come part of the package.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 10:01 AM

Except that Tim Tebow’s brief NFL career was entirely launched by organized evangelical pressure and promotion of a QB who couldn’t throw the football properly. And at the time, the social cons had no problem and couldn’t understand why we all couldn’t support the “brave” Tim Tebow who was “living his truth” by sharing his faith and “Tebowing” and not having sex before marriage and blah blah blah. We knew more about Tebow’s struggle with abstinence and his mother’s relationship to abortion (to very private matters) than we know about Michael Sam’s sex life. And yet still you will claim that Sam is “shoving it in your face.” The hypocrisy is immense.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 9:53 AM

Unbelievable. Most un-self aware poster of all time.

Hey Brave Sir Brianfree, how about a brave response to the following?

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

NotCoach on February 10, 2014 at 10:01 AM

Strange bird that one, eh? Can’t make a single comment without throwing down an insult. Yet not smart enough to learn to quote. He won’t last long.

Bmore on February 10, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Yes indeedy :)

22044 on February 10, 2014 at 10:01 AM

They’ll just do what lielikealib does and just make up insults that they wished conservatives had said, and then attack that as real.

Flange on February 10, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Such is the liberal MO;

1. Create Strawman

2. Attack Strawman

3. Insist you defend Strawman

307wolverine on February 10, 2014 at 10:01 AM

Your gay. Congratulations. You have anal sex with other men. Good for you. This makes you special? Why should we care?

rrpjr on February 10, 2014 at 10:01 AM

Why it’s a big deal has to do with the cultural understanding of what constitutes manliness.

The necessary talents one employs in professional football does.

Sodomizing one another doesn’t. Period.

Cleombrotus on February 10, 2014 at 10:01 AM

The reason ESPN was also talking about him as a Day 2 pick was because Sam in undersized for a D-lineman. If he’s got enough speed to cover TE’s there’s a possibility of switching him to linebacker, but he’s not an automatic starter due to those questions (Day 2 picks often end up as ‘situational’ players, going in on run or pass downs.

No one is saying he is automatically going to be a success merely because he is gay. There are many successful NFL players who are considered undersized for their position. One of them just played QB for the winning Super Bowl team, while the larger (though older) player choked.

Here’s Sam’s scouting report from bleacher report and it looks like he’ll be a pretty average NFL player. But just remember that even making it onto a NFL roster is an *enormous* achievement given the number of extremely talented football players who want to be there. Remind me. Are any of y’all on NFL teams? And yet at some point you probably played football. Hmmmm…

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1935663-michael-sam-scouting-report-nfl-outlook-for-missouri-defensive-end

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Oh please. Eagles fans booed Santa. And that “Bat Day” at a Phillies game is what legends are made of. It is more than just a few bad eggs.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 9:58 AM

No it isn’t.

fogw on February 10, 2014 at 10:03 AM

How long before teh ghey football player starts whining about being bullied?

davidk on February 10, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Santa got booed because he weighed 160 lbs.

Akzed on February 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM

So they didn’t like a Santa that maintains a healthy body weight?

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Well this morning is starting off nice.

Woke up. Sparked a bowl. Made myself a Bloody Mary and some Feta cheese scrambie eggs, hopped on HotAir to check the latest, and I find this thread with all the usual whiny wingnuts.

Face the facts baggers. Acceptance of homosexuals is increasing and it’s not going back. The more you fight it, the more you will lose. As acceptance for gays rise, religious fairy tale participation falls

Enjoy you long, slow march towards irrelevancy :)

LeftoCenter on February 10, 2014 at 9:52 AM

And the next time you’re passing by, we would appreciate it, libiot.

bimmcorp on February 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Your gay. Congratulations. You have anal sex with other men.
Good for you. This makes you special? Why should we care?

rrpjr on February 10, 2014 at 10:01 AM

Talk about projection. Sam didn’t tell you which specific sex acts he enjoys with other men. If you are imagining him having anal (which not everyone does) that really is on you.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Santa got booed because he weighed 160 lbs. The actor didn’t show up so they just grabbed some grounds keeper guy or whatever, and made him play Santa. I don’t know if he was gay.

Akzed on February 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Yup, admitting he was gay would have stopped the boos immediately.

307wolverine on February 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM

How long before teh ghey football player starts whining about being bullied?

davidk on February 10, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Depends on how well he plays in the NFL.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 10:05 AM

And that “Bat Day” at a Phillies game is what legends are made of. It is more than just a few bad eggs. Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 9:58 AM

And Reggie Jackson had to wear a batters helmet in right field so as not to have a nine volt battery pierce his skull – in Baltimore. I was there. They had to clean up the mess between innings.

Akzed on February 10, 2014 at 10:05 AM

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Remind us, are you the honest sort willing to face your own stupidity, or are you too full of yourself to ever be willing to admit defeat? Hmmmm…

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

NotCoach on February 10, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Except that Tim Tebow’s brief NFL career was entirely launched by organized evangelical pressure and promotion of a QB who couldn’t throw the football properly. And at the time, the social cons had no problem and couldn’t understand why we all couldn’t support the “brave” Tim Tebow who was “living his truth” by sharing his faith and “Tebowing” and not having sex before marriage and blah blah blah. We knew more about Tebow’s struggle with abstinence and his mother’s relationship to abortion (to very private matters) than we know about Michael Sam’s sex life. And yet still you will claim that Sam is “shoving it in your face.” The hypocrisy is immense.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 9:53 AM

See? Now you’re showing your anti-Tebow bias. Quarterback is the highest-profile position in the NFL, so everything done there is always on camera, and there certainly were questions about Tebow’s skill set coming into the draft four years ago.

But as I said in the above post, there are questions the scouts have as well about Michael Sam, due to his size. Can he consistently get through the jumbo-size O-linemen of the NFL to the quarterback, or on short yardage situations can he get forward push to stop the run.

If he has enough speed, some under-sized D-linemen have been used at linebacker (the Giants won two Super Bowls doing that with Mathias Kiwanuka), so we’ll see. But my guess is if Sam ends up as an NFL role players, you’ll be one of the ones seeing a major anti-gay conspiracy behind his limited playing time (which is why I also said woe to the San Francisco 49ers if they draft him, because they’ll be worse than the Tebow supporters, demanding government investigations into why Sam only saw 8-10 snaps in that last game).

jon1979 on February 10, 2014 at 10:06 AM

BuckeyeSam on February 10, 2014 at 9:53 AM

She embarrassed herself, talking over Will and the others. Maybe she feels good about acting that way on her own show, but on this occasion she was just out of line.

MJBrutus on February 10, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Yea, she came off quite badly.
Didn’t have a non-hysterical ‘DC is listening!’ slogan reply to offer either Will or Williams…both of whom were trying to make actual points while she shouted at them.

verbaluce on February 10, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Weren’t liberals desperately recruiting a guy like this just a few months ago? Regardless – 307wolverine has it exactly right:

Such is the liberal MO;

1. Create Strawman

2. Attack Strawman

3. Insist you defend Strawman

307wolverine on February 10, 2014 at 10:01 AM

rhombus on February 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM

MJBrutus on February 10, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Yep, our side using the inside voices always works out so well.

Cindy Munford on February 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 9:53 AM

Bingo. Already read some scouts take on him. Even though he led the SEC! SEC! SEC!!! (I hate that conference) in sacks with 11.5, nine of them came against Vanderbilt, Arkansas State, and Florida (who was ATROCIOUS this year). To put it differently, two and a half came against the middle and top tier schools (UGA, TAMU, USC, TENN, OK STATE) He’s a very good college player but probably won’t translate well to the pros. He’s too small to play end and the speed isn’t there for linebacker.

But, when he falls or doesn’t get drafted, it will be all because he’s gay…

USNCVN on February 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Conclusion: the ones overreacting to this are the gay activists. Not the conservatives.

22044 on February 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Except that Tim Tebow’s brief NFL career was entirely launched by organized evangelical pressure and promotion of a QB who couldn’t throw the football properly.

Tim Tebow was a wildly popular college player who won the Heisman and in the pros, when given the chance, had a lower interception percentage in the playoffs than Brett Favre. While he didn’t have the skills to play long term in the league, the short career he did have was based on skill, experience and potential. “Organized evangelical pressure” (which I never saw and you can’t provide evidence of) had nothing to do with it.

tommyboy on February 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM

If you are imagining him having anal (which not everyone does) that really is on you.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM

I’m imagining nothing. I couldn’t care less. Why should anybody? The point isn’t the variation of sexual satisfaction, it’s the utter un-newsworthiness.

rrpjr on February 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM

WHO CARES?
*why* is this news?

GWB on February 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Okay, some of us, myself included are on the wrong thread.

Cindy Munford on February 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM

LeftoCenter on February 10, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Look again Proby.why hasn’t the democratic party passed a law that allows gays everything they constantly scream about?It wouldn’t be that they see this as a winning issue that along with the media they can demonize Republicans?The dems have been stringing along gays for years to keep the money flowing in.Most Republican could care less if someone is gay.The last thing the dems want to do is legalize gay and cut off the money.

docflash on February 10, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Talk about projection. Sam didn’t tell you which specific sex acts he enjoys with other men. If you are imagining him having anal (which not everyone does) that really is on you.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Were you projecting your own racism on Super Bowl Sunday when, out of the blue, you made up that charge that Rush is upset that a black QB won?

Flange on February 10, 2014 at 10:08 AM

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Remind us of how many times Missouri won the national championship?

tetriskid on February 10, 2014 at 10:08 AM

She embarrassed herself, talking over Will and the others. Maybe she feels good about acting that way on her own show, but on this occasion she was just out of line.

MJBrutus on February 10, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Watch the clip again if you even watched it at all. They were talking over her! All four of them were talking over her! I was impressed, for once, with her demeanor.

Vince on February 10, 2014 at 10:08 AM

But my guess is if Sam ends up as an NFL role players, you’ll be one of the ones seeing a major anti-gay conspiracy behind his limited playing time

You guess wrong. Merely being in the NFL is a massive achievement. And at the end of the day, once Sam is on a roster and it’s not my New York Giants and/or he doesn’t matter in terms of my fantasy squads then I really do stop caring about him. I am sure that the media frenzy will eventually gross me out and do him more harm than good. Which is another reason why this really is brave. Someone has to be willing to go through the media frenzy first so the next gay pro sports player won’t have to.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Except that Tim Tebow’s brief NFL career was entirely launched by organized evangelical pressure… [snip]
libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 9:53 AM

What do you have against evangelicals? Bigot!!!

Walter L. Newton on February 10, 2014 at 10:08 AM

libfree is really more unhinged than usual this morning.

gwelf on February 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Could be this hits close to home for him/her/it

Art Vandelay on February 10, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Remind us of how many times Missouri won the national championship?

tetriskid on February 10, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Remind me how many other players in the SEC were named co-defensive player of the year?

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Would be wrong if anyone gives him a hard time over his sexual orientation. Demeaning others’ sexual orientations is immature and mean-spirited. Different sexual orientations really are just a fact of life, so I’m not sure why anyone people would be grumbling about him acknowledging this.

One thing I always wondered: why are some sports like figure skating filled with feminine gay men? I was watching a Winter Olympics special last night and boitano from years ago was featured. Does the sport of figure skating turn them gay when they are growing up and training? Or do they go towards those sports because they are gay? But they start so young so I would say no. It makes me think homosexuality is NOT innate.

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 10:10 AM

Bingo. Already read some scouts take on him. Even though he led the SEC! SEC! SEC!!! (I hate that conference) in sacks with 11.5, nine of them came against Vanderbilt, Arkansas State, and Florida (who was ATROCIOUS this year). To put it differently, two and a half came against the middle and top tier schools (UGA, TAMU, USC, TENN, OK STATE) He’s a very good college player but probably won’t translate well to the pros. He’s too small to play end and the speed isn’t there for linebacker.

But, when he falls or doesn’t get drafted, it will be all because he’s gay…

USNCVN on February 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM

I think these are good points. When all is said & done, it will be seen that he played the gay card to compensate for his failure to find a spot based on his skills.

22044 on February 10, 2014 at 10:10 AM

My take: Who cares? Are his teammates bothered by it? Are his family bothered by it? Are his friends bothered?

Is there some reason I should give a sh!t about this young man’s sexual orientation? In other words, why is this news? It really may be relevant to only a few people in the world (those personally acquainted with or related to the player). I’m happy for him that he felt comfortable enough to tell his closest associates and relatives. However, with everything else that is going on in the world, knowledge of one person’s sexual orientation is not relevant or important in the grand scheme of things, IMO.

Let me be clear: (to quote someone I heard somewhere) I. Do. Not. Care. Who. You. Sleep. With. or Who. You. Want. to Spend. Time. With. The same rule applies for heterosexuals.

Just don’t anyone commit any felonies in connection with their sexual behavior, including but not limited to rape, sexual assault, battery, pedophilia and insisting on engaging in public displays of sexual behavior.

Period.

ClownsToTheLeftOfMe on February 10, 2014 at 10:10 AM

So if he ultimately comes up short physically for the NFL, will gay-advocates blame it on “lack of support” by his team members?

Frankly, I wouldn’t draft him at all. His self-generated media circus aside, there is no winning side for a team to pick him up beyond a press release (before he has even taken the field) about tolerance. I’m not sure that is worth all the other crap that come part of the package.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 10:01 AM

Patriots, Broncos, Seahawks and maybe 1-2 other teams with established winning records could draft Sam with little or no problems because they already have winning systems in place. A team like the Cowboys, Jets or Redskins drafting him would be a clusterfark, more due to the corporate culture already in place than anything else.

jon1979 on February 10, 2014 at 10:10 AM

Were you projecting your own racism on Super Bowl Sunday when, out of the blue, you made up that charge that Rush is upset that a black QB won?

Flange on February 10, 2014 at 10:08 AM

We know how Rush feels about black QBs, not sure why that was an unfair joke. Lighten up.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

The old argument of what you do in the bedroom is not valid here. That may work in an office. The bedroom may be private but a team locker room and showers are not. It’s about how uncomfortable his team is said or not said, its not not him. If he came out sometime ago the NFL knows about it and he is simply trying to get drafted.

CW20 on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Watch the clip again if you even watched it at all. They were talking over her! All four of them were talking over her! I was impressed, for once, with her demeanor.

Vince on February 10, 2014 at 10:08 AM

MJ is a RINO shill, he won’t ever view the video with an honest eye. And it’s quite telling that our most dishonest troll on these boards agrees with him.

NotCoach on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

[snip]… Which is another reason why this really is brave. Someone has to be willing to go through the media frenzy first so the next gay pro sports player won’t have to.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Wow… you certainly have low expectation as to what “brave” is. What next? “He was so brave and my hero for coming out as fat.”

Walter L. Newton on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

You guess wrong. Merely being in the NFL is a massive achievement. And at the end of the day, once Sam is on a roster and it’s not my New York Giants and/or he doesn’t matter in terms of my fantasy squads then I really do stop caring about him. I am sure that the media frenzy will eventually gross me out and do him more harm than good. Which is another reason why this really is brave. Someone has to be willing to go through the media frenzy first so the next gay pro sports player won’t have to.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:08 AM

I’ll flag this post an see you in eight months. If Sam overachives it won’t be a problem for anyone. It’s only if he performs as predicted — a likely role player in his rookie season — or under-performs that we’ll see if you and others bring politics into his skill set evaluations.

jon1979 on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Well this morning is starting off nice.

Woke up.

No.

Art Vandelay on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Remind me how many other players in the SEC were named co-defensive player of the year?

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:09 AM

At least one….moron.

USNCVN on February 10, 2014 at 10:12 AM

…what happened to privacy?

KOOLAID2 on February 10, 2014 at 10:13 AM

We know how Rush feels about black QBs, not sure why that was an unfair joke. Lighten up.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

YOU…LIE…

22044 on February 10, 2014 at 10:13 AM

The old argument of what you do in the bedroom is not valid here. That may work in an office. The bedroom may be private but a team locker room and showers are not. It’s about how uncomfortable his team is said or not said, its not not him. If he came out sometime ago the NFL knows about it and he is simply trying to get drafted.

CW20 on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Gee… you don’t give much credit to grown men and professionals… do you? If you would be uncomfortable, just tell us and stop projecting on others. Are you speaking for all NFL locker rooms?

Walter L. Newton on February 10, 2014 at 10:13 AM

Remind me how many other players in the SEC were named co-defensive player of the year?

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Remind us how many other perfessers fail so miserably at scholarly knowledge.

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

NotCoach on February 10, 2014 at 10:13 AM

An attention seeker wants to become the Rosa Parks of the homo movement. Well, they say that in the entertaiment business (which is what pro sports is) there is no such thing as bad publicity which I’m sure is agent is well aware of.

tommyboy on February 10, 2014 at 10:13 AM

He’s not a militant type happy is he?

Bmore on February 10, 2014 at 10:14 AM

libfree is really more unhinged than usual this morning.

gwelf on February 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM

We’ll have to ask his Mom why.

307wolverine on February 10, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Cindy Munford on February 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM

C’mon, Cindy. You know as well as anyone that she w a s outnumbered a d if she hadn’t she wouldn’t h ave gotten a word in edgewise.

She cleaned their clocks. That’s what Brutus is really upset about.

Cleombrotus on February 10, 2014 at 10:14 AM

We know how Rush feels about black QBs, not sure why that was an unfair joke. Lighten up.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Yeah, that they got extra attention because of their skin color.

You know, kind of like how this dude is getting extra attention because of his lifestyle choices.

p0s3r on February 10, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Remind me how many other players in the SEC were named co-defensive player of the year?

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:09 AM

The SEC was down this season.

Oklahoma, FSU, and other teams showed everyone that.

tetriskid on February 10, 2014 at 10:15 AM

We know how Rush feels about black QBs, not sure why that was an unfair joke. Lighten up.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

*snort*

Who’s this “we”, kimosabe? Your knowledge about anything seems to be severely lacking. Example:

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

NotCoach on February 10, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Is there some reason I should give a sh!t about this young man’s sexual orientation? In other words, why is this news? It really may be relevant to only a few people…
ClownsToTheLeftOfMe on February 10, 2014 at 10:10 AM

I would guess because it’s a macho sport in which other players were probably too scared to acknowledge such a thing. So this is a new occurrence. I think it’s news because people find it surprising and see it going against stereotype.

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 10:16 AM

We know how Rush feels about black QBs, not sure why that was an unfair joke. Lighten up. libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Please cite one instance where Rush questioned the ability of a QB based on his race.

Akzed on February 10, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Never heard of him…

d1carter on February 10, 2014 at 10:16 AM

And that will be inevitable, given his All-American status

Hubby had a friend who was All-American and did not turn pro. He was very talented but not very “coachable”. It’s not a guarantee.

Fallon on February 10, 2014 at 10:16 AM

We’ll have to ask his Mom why.

307wolverine on February 10, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Apparently he threw clam dip at the television yesterday when he saw that none of the ski jumpers were black.

22044 on February 10, 2014 at 10:16 AM

I’ll flag this post an see you in eight months. If Sam overachives it won’t be a problem for anyone. It’s only if he performs as predicted — a likely role player in his rookie season — or under-performs that we’ll see if you and others bring politics into his skill set evaluations.

jon1979 on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Deal.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:17 AM

We know how Rush feels about black QBs, not sure why that was an unfair joke. Lighten up.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

You’re such a liar. Prove Rush hates black QBs. You can’t, all you remember is that there was something involving Rush and black Qbs, but you don’t know what. And since when did you start thinking racism is a joke? You are pure scum.

Flange on February 10, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Remind me how many other players in the SEC were named co-defensive player of the year?

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Your Mom will be here shortly, to give you your
Flintstones chewables…

ToddPA on February 10, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Did you know that the more gay people come out, the more gay babies will be born?

It’s true! If trends continue and acceptance of gays becomes more prevalent, the gay population will explode!

Over the next several decades, the Gay Master Race will inherit the earth, breading via test tube, creating more gay babies. And they will be even gayer with each subsequent generation.

Meanwhile, all the straights will be rounded up and sent to education camps where they will learn the way of the gay. You either join the Gay Master Race, or die. Chaps are a must! It will be a law that everyone listen to Right Said Fred and Bette Midler albums.

The sun will turn gay. The moon will turn gay. All animals will turn gay and all sit-coms will be even gayer. Modern Family? That’s just the tip of the gay iceberg!

Don’t say I didn’t warn ya!

LeftoCenter on February 10, 2014 at 10:19 AM

IDK, I’m less concerned with a portion of a population– that when surveyed, measures about 4% of the general population– that are fewer (pardon my grammar) than those surveyed that believe Elvis is still alive (8%, BTW).

I’m certain, however, that those of the latter are as ‘proud’ as the former.

socalcon on February 10, 2014 at 10:19 AM

This guy won’t be the first. People use to talk about Jerry Smith of the Redskins. May I say, as a woman, it is depressing when cuties are found to be batting for the other team. Oh well.

Cindy Munford on February 10, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Except that Tim Tebow’s brief NFL career was entirely launched by organized evangelical pressure and promotion of a QB who couldn’t throw the football properly. And at the time, the social cons had no problem and couldn’t understand why we all couldn’t support the “brave” Tim Tebow who was “living his truth” by sharing his faith and “Tebowing” and not having sex before marriage and blah blah blah. We knew more about Tebow’s struggle with abstinence and his mother’s relationship to abortion (to very private matters) than we know about Michael Sam’s sex life. And yet still you will claim that Sam is “shoving it in your face.” The hypocrisy is immense.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 9:53 AM

That’s an excellent point.
I do not follow/watch football. But there was no avoiding Tebow’s personal life anecdotes and bio, which brought tears to the eyes of many fans touched by his story.
Some of them now rage that we shouldn;’t have to hear any of Michael Sam’s.
To be honest, neither story particularly moves me.
They both seem like honorable and decent guys who love the game and strive to be good at it.

verbaluce on February 10, 2014 at 10:21 AM

We know how Rush feels about black QBs, not sure why that was an unfair joke. Lighten up.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Tell us how you think he feels. As I recall, he accurately assessed that the media was pining for particular black quarterback to succeed.

Did you hang the black crepe after the honky poster-boy Brady won the Super Bowl over said quarterback?

What does that say about you?

Art Vandelay on February 10, 2014 at 10:21 AM

If NFL fans want to get angry over something,

No one was ever going to get angry about this and frankly Ed I think this whole post is a little disingenuous. This announcement is little more than a naked attempt of a 3rd round prospect attempting to get himself into the second round or higher which have significantly larger pay scales. Sam knows like everyone else that there are GMs out there who want the free PR value of this.

The problem teams have with an openly gay athlete is not fan or even teammate angry. People will mostly be indifferent. The problem is they know few are going to want purchase items for their young sons with Sam’s name on the back. He won’t drive people into the seats or to their TV sets. Hot girls aren’t going to be wearing a cutoff Sam jersey. As your example of “women’s professional sports for decades now” shows sports isn’t just about winning you know.

Rocks on February 10, 2014 at 10:21 AM

An attention seeker wants to become the Rosa Parks of the homo movement.

tommyboy on February 10, 2014 at 10:13 AM

Except he likes it in the rear, er back of the bus.

Flange on February 10, 2014 at 10:21 AM

This guy won’t be the first. People use to talk about Jerry Smith of the Redskins. May I say, as a woman, it is depressing when cuties are found to be batting for the other team. Oh well.

Cindy Munford on February 10, 2014 at 10:20 AM

You mean The Cowboys?

verbaluce on February 10, 2014 at 10:22 AM

Cleombrotus on February 10, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Totally agree, now let’s get up in the headlines and talk about her. This is gay football guy thread.

Cindy Munford on February 10, 2014 at 10:22 AM

I don’t understand why Michael Sam is considered even a mid-level NFL prospect. Show me some arrests in his past and I’ll reconsider.

TedInATL on February 10, 2014 at 10:22 AM

We know how Rush feels about black QBs, not sure why that was an unfair joke. Lighten up.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Why are most NFL quarterbacks white, libby? Is it a racist plot? Why are most defensive backs and receivers black? Why is the NBA predominantly black?

So many racist plots, so little time for you.

Art Vandelay on February 10, 2014 at 10:22 AM

This guy won’t be the first.

Well we already know he’s not the first. But he’s the first in this hyper visible era of pro-football, when the cameras follow their every move. Don’t forget David Kopay.

libfreeordie on February 10, 2014 at 10:23 AM

A non-story about a non-issue. AP is turning HA into all gay all the time. Because, homophobia.

Socratease on February 10, 2014 at 10:23 AM

Who.Cares?! It makes no difference.

deadrody on February 10, 2014 at 10:24 AM

I would guess because it’s a macho sport in which other players were probably too scared to acknowledge such a thing. So this is a new occurrence. I think it’s news because people find it surprising and see it going against stereotype.

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 10:16 AM

I can see your point. Oddly, I have been hearing, for at least the last 25 years, that the NFL has a plethora of gay players, or at least, players on the downlow. So, this isn’t really news to me.

That said, I can only speak for myself when I say all this talk about who is or is not gay bores the crap out of me.

ClownsToTheLeftOfMe on February 10, 2014 at 10:25 AM

I don’t understand why Michael Sam is considered even a mid-level NFL prospect. Show me some arrests in his past and I’ll reconsider.

TedInATL on February 10, 2014 at 10:22 AM

His PR guy should tell him to hang out with Justin Bieber.

22044 on February 10, 2014 at 10:25 AM

verbaluce on February 10, 2014 at 10:22 AM

Darlin, I know who I mean.

Cindy Munford on February 10, 2014 at 10:25 AM

LeftoCenter on February 10, 2014 at 10:19 AM

You’ll succeed at agitating with this stuff – but not much else.
And you don’t help yourself much by offering gay stereotypes when you’re trying to show you’re own ‘enlightenment’ about these issues.

verbaluce on February 10, 2014 at 10:26 AM

Why do we celebrate gay people? I have nothing against them, but, so what? If my beloved REDSKINS draft him, I won’t care if he’s a catcher instead of a pitcher. He’s a good player and will make a positive impact on any team. I wonder if Obama gave him a call.

RandallinHerndon on February 10, 2014 at 10:26 AM

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