Schumer calls Boehner’s bluff: Let’s pass immigration reform now and have it take effect after Obama leaves office

posted at 3:21 pm on February 10, 2014 by Allahpundit

If, as Boehner claims, his caucus is reluctant to pass amnesty because they fear Obama can’t be trusted to enforce the new border security measures, there’s an obvious solution. In that case, though, why not go a step further? Let’s pass immigration reform now and then impeach Obama so that it can take effect immediately. The way things are headed in the midterms, we might even get a few Senate Democrats to vote yes.

Assume immigration reform is definitely in the cards sometime in the next three years. (Which it is.) Is there any argument for taking Schumer up on his offer? I.e. pass it now and then delay implementation a la ObamaCare? I can’t think of one. In theory, taking your medicine now would take the issue off the table during the presidential primary debates next year, reducing its capacity to split the party in 2015 at a moment when it should be unifying. But (a) the libertarians-versus-conservatives dynamic of the debates guarantees a bitter party split anyway and (b) immigration’s bound to come up no matter what as an easy way for “true conservative” candidates to distinguish themselves from the more RINO-y elite onstage. Admittedly, the split might be more bitter if the legislative process is playing out while the primary campaign is heating up, but the trade-off is that Republicans will be able to write a tougher immigration bill if they wait until next year, when they (hopefully) control both chambers of Congress. Better policy trumps more harmonious politics, no?

Schumer would actually prefer to delay implementation, I think. Whether a bill passes tomorrow and takes effect immediately or takes effect three years from now, Democrats will go on agitating for a faster, less onerous legalization process and an expedited special path to citizenship. But it’s marginally harder to do that politically for a bill that’s already in effect; there’ll be some public sympathy for the idea of giving the new status quo a fighting chance. Delay implementation until 2017, though, and the law can be “tweaked” in the interim to “improve” it before it takes effect and people begin to rely on the new rules. That’s one argument why, if the GOP passes something this year, they might do better to implement it immediately rather than wait. (If you’re inclined to delay because you think a newly elected Republican president might join with a Republican Congress in 2017 to repeal immigration reform if it hasn’t taken effect yet, you’re smoking something.) The other argument for immediate implementation is that Republicans might benefit in 2016 from a worst-case scenario where their bill’s new border-security measures fail epically in practice. If they beef up enforcement but the flow of illegal immigration continues at current levels anyway, I want voters to know that when they go to the polls in 2016. Follow Schumer’s plan by delaying the bill entirely and all voters will “know” is that Republicans still hate Latinos because they haven’t already legalized illegals.


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Trust Schumer?

Heh

Schadenfreude on February 10, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Schumer/obama/Boehner, all traitors of the USA

Schadenfreude on February 10, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Can we get ChuckYou to go be a guest teacher in Iraq?
I know just the class for him – coincidently just lost their last teacher…

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Legal immigration or traitors, no exceptions.

Go Swiss people

Schadenfreude on February 10, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Nope. Anything passed now even with a future sell by date would be enforced by Obama now regardless of the law. We have seen that already.

Johnnyreb on February 10, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Nope. Anything passed now even with a future sell by date would be enforced by Obama now regardless of the law. We have seen that already.

Johnnyreb on February 10, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Except for the EOs to exempt his cronies….

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2014 at 3:26 PM

What truly disgusts me besides the fact that schumer always disgusts me is that the illegals will get put to the head of the line for all preferences. Criminals to kings.

aniptofar on February 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Be wary of this one.

Bmore on February 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Has anyone ever seen Satan and Schumer in the same room?

Shay on February 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM

The real problem is republicans being afraid the newly legalized citizens will vote Democrat.

It has nothing to do with Obama.

liberalrules on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

If you are so worried about these “immigrants” Chuck, why don’t we legalize them but never allow them a chance at citizenship? Let’s see who’s bluff is called.

Tater Salad on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Anything Schumer suggests, the opposite would be the correct answer.

JAM on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

And we should trust Obama to not use his “pen and phone” to implement amnesty before 2017 (assuming he plans to leave) why exactly?

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

The real problem is republicans being afraid the newly legalized citizens will vote Democrat.

It has nothing to do with Obama.

liberalrules on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Why wouldn’t a compassionate liberal allow the illegals to have legal status but no citizenship? It would be “for the children”.

Tater Salad on February 10, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Fine.
Link it to repeal of ObamaCare and Term Limits. I’d call it square.

AeroSpear on February 10, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Let’s pass immigration reform now and then impeach Obama so that it can take effect immediately.

I see no reason this couldn’t be a reasonable negotiating position for the GOP. We trade border enforcement for Schumer’s support of impeachment. I like it!

butch on February 10, 2014 at 3:30 PM

The real problem is republicans being afraid the newly legalized citizens will vote Democrat.

It has nothing to do with Obama.

liberalrules on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Why do you hate the black youth and the unemployed, the legal US citizens and immigrants?

Schadenfreude on February 10, 2014 at 3:30 PM

So instead of immigration “reform” being a LOSE-LOSE proposition for the GOP (and country as a whole)… Let’s follow the advice of the guy who hates the GOP and the country as much or almost as much as Obama and turn it into a LOSE-LOSE-LOSE ! Oh yah

Caseoftheblues on February 10, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Why not pass a bill instead that addresses conservative’s concerns about securing the border and then wait until that is actually put into effect to pass amnesty? Since we all agree amnesty can wait…

blue13326 on February 10, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Stop calling it “immigration reform” when you mean AMNESTY. These are totally different concepts.

RoadRunner on February 10, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Why not pass a bill instead that addresses conservative’s concerns about securing the border and then wait until that is actually put into effect to pass amnesty? Since we all agree amnesty can wait…

blue13326 on February 10, 2014 at 3:31 PM

The Senate would try to force it into conference, then attach their agenda. Just wait a year when the GOP controls the Senate and get a better bill.

Tater Salad on February 10, 2014 at 3:32 PM

Let’s charge Schumer with treason now and set trial date for after Obama leaves office. If he wants to call that bluff, hold him at Gitmo as a terrorist hater until the trial date.

onomo on February 10, 2014 at 3:33 PM

How about we instead impeach the lawless president now and kick the tires on Biden (LoL) before we reconsider another immigration bill.

crrr6 on February 10, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Stop calling it “immigration reform” when you mean AMNESTY. These are totally different concepts.

RoadRunner on February 10, 2014 at 3:31 PM

+ 200 million sane people

Schadenfreude on February 10, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Considering Hillary is likely the next President, um – no, thank you.

What’s the over/under on whether Boehner immediately broke into tears upon hearing this news, or did it take a full lip-quivering 30 seconds?

Midas on February 10, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Assume immigration reform is definitely in the cards sometime in the next three years. (Which it is.)

And the proof for this statement is… what, exactly?

Amnesty, like its huge disaster cousin of global warming, we have been told is inevitably going to happen this year, and we’ve been told that every year for the past 10 years.

It hasn’t happened yet. It’s time for the Chamber of Commerce to face the facts: the jig is up.

Stoic Patriot on February 10, 2014 at 3:36 PM

I’m watching one of those Mark Zuckerberg funded ads from the phony “Americans for a Conservative Direction” now. (which were on both Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh by the way, they will take money from anyone evidently) It’s gratifying to know that the SOB wasted his money.

V7_Sport on February 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM

The Senate would try to force it into conference, then attach their agenda. Just wait a year when the GOP controls the Senate and get a better bill.

Tater Salad on February 10, 2014 at 3:32 PM

You’re more confident than I that this would yield a ‘better bill’.

Midas on February 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM

I’m watching one of those Mark Zuckerberg funded ads from the phony “Americans for a Conservative Direction” now. (which were on both Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh by the way, they will take money from anyone evidently) It’s gratifying to know that the SOB wasted his money.

V7_Sport on February 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM

It does warm the heart, lol.

Midas on February 10, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Assume immigration reform is definitely in the cards sometime in the next three years. (Which it is.)

You can always count on AP for the defeatist propaganda.

Jon0815 on February 10, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Let’s prove the U.S. is capable of ENFORCING its CURRENT LAWS AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION before Congress passes any new immigration laws.

- Waiting for E-Verify system since 1980′s

- When will people who overstay Visas be sent home?

- No Federal Funds for Sanctuary Cities

- No Federal Funds for cities that don’t follow the Secure Communities Act

- No welfare benefits for ILLEGAL aliens

- End birth tourism

- Stop spending taxpayer dollars on translation services – English is the national language of the U.S.

wren on February 10, 2014 at 3:39 PM

V7_Sport on February 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM

+ 200 million – Zuckerberg is a charlatan, same as Schumer.

Schadenfreude on February 10, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Has anyone ever seen Satan and Schumer in the same room?

Shay on February 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Yes, but only because there was a mirror in the room.

Midas on February 10, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Someone should buy AP a new deck.

corona79 on February 10, 2014 at 3:40 PM

wren on February 10, 2014 at 3:39 PM

No healthcare/obama’care’ for illegals

Schadenfreude on February 10, 2014 at 3:41 PM

See recent Australia laws.

See the Swiss.

Schadenfreude on February 10, 2014 at 3:42 PM

If we cannot trust Obama to implement the law exactly as it is written and according to its timetable, see ObamaCare with all delays for the parts that hurt he does not like or that hurt him politically, why anybody should trust him to not implement the law he likes and think will benefit him politically ahead of time?

Leave alone that we do not know if the next president can be trusted.
Democrats assure us that it will be Clinton. So Clintons are as trustworthy as Obama.

finallyhere on February 10, 2014 at 3:45 PM

We trade border enforcement for Schumer’s support of impeachment. I like it!

butch on February 10, 2014 at 3:30 PM

President Biden?

wolfsDad on February 10, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Has anyone ever seen Satan and Schumer in the same room?

Shay on February 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Yes, but only because there was a mirror in the room.

Midas on February 10, 2014 at 3:40 PM

I don’t believe Schumer’s reflection would show in a standard mirror…

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 3:45 PM

The real problem is republicans being afraid the newly legalized citizens will vote Democrat.

It has nothing to do with Obama.

liberalrules on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Look, when the Democrats stop bribing their voters with welfare money; they you can call us all out on our tactics until then Meh…

melle1228 on February 10, 2014 at 3:47 PM

I’m watching one of those Mark Zuckerberg funded ads from the phony “Americans for a Conservative Direction” now. (which were on both Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh by the way, they will take money from anyone evidently) It’s gratifying to know that the SOB wasted his money.

V7_Sport on February 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Radio stations may not be able to turn down “political” advertising from the right or the left.

Everytime I hear the phony “Americans for a Conservative Direction” ad, I curse Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg.

wren on February 10, 2014 at 3:47 PM

The real problem is republicans being afraid the newly legalized citizens will vote Democrat.

It has nothing to do with Obama.

liberalrules on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

These two problems are not mutually exclusive.

Valkyriepundit on February 10, 2014 at 3:47 PM

President Biden?

wolfsDad on February 10, 2014 at 3:45 PM

I hope he runs. I can’t wait to see his campaign hit Hilary on Benghazi. I am going to grab the popcorn with glee..

melle1228 on February 10, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Assume immigration reform treasonous aid and comfort to illegals is definitely in the cards sometime in the next three years. (Which it is.)

That’s right, which is why the GOP is totally dead to me. They are dirtball traitors and crybabies. They cannot be trusted and most of the leadership should be in jail with their buddy, Barky the Dog-Eating America-Hating Retard.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 10, 2014 at 3:48 PM

“I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today…” What Schumer fails to realize is that there exists not a single democRAT that can be trusted for any reason whatsoever. Precious few Republicans either, for that matter. The insanity is epic in D.C., and there is no end of it in sight. All the more reason to accept the fact that we are, indeed, in the End Times…

bimmcorp on February 10, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Has anyone ever seen Satan and Schumer in the same room?

Shay on February 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Yes, but only because there was a mirror in the room.

Midas on February 10, 2014 at 3:40 PM

I don’t believe Schumer’s reflection would show in a standard mirror…

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 3:45 PM

MUCH better! :-D

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 3:52 PM

Yeah let’s do something Schumer suggests – GREAT IDEA!

gophergirl on February 10, 2014 at 3:53 PM

ho many times must we pass an amnesty? this would be #6 or so right?
Malkin had a writeup few months back covering a lot of the legislation on this.

dmacleo on February 10, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Amnesty=TREASON

TX-96 on February 10, 2014 at 3:55 PM

The real problem is republicans being afraid the newly legalized citizens will vote Democrat.

It has nothing to do with Obama.

liberalrules on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Liar, Liar, Strawman on Fire. Pretty much all of the illegals who would vote are already voting. Look at the Great States of Connecticut and California who issue Id’s to illegals. Sorry, better luck next time.

Johnnyreb on February 10, 2014 at 3:57 PM

The real problem is republicans being afraid the newly legalized citizens will vote Democrat.

It has nothing to do with Obama.

liberalrules on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

No, the real problem is Democrats facing failed economic and social agendas and needing a larger base to keep voting for their bread and circuses.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Schumer humor. It’s a new thing.

The thing is, Chucky, when you don’t trust an evil clown like Obama, you know better than to trust his evil little trolls like you, too.

Besides, if we manage to take the Senate in spite of our stupid infighting, we can write bills that actually address the real problems with better solutions instead of just trying to trick the country into another amnesty with empty promises of future enforcement.

Adjoran on February 10, 2014 at 3:58 PM

So is Chuckie admitting that we have good reason to not trust the REB?

slickwillie2001 on February 10, 2014 at 3:59 PM

I’ll take Schumer’s offer, with a slight addendum.

Pass a law now. It goes into effect in 2017, or whenever the border fence is built and the border is secure, whichever comes last.

He says he wants a “comprehensive” bill, right? And he’s willing to delay implementation if necessary, right? Then this little addition shouldn’t bother him.

Chris of Rights on February 10, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Chris of Rights on February 10, 2014 at 4:00 PM

I’d much rather have the border secured prior to any implementation.

Any chance of having an accounting of where the allocated $$$ went for border fences during Bush II’s reign? And I don’t count a “virtual” fence as a legitimate fence, either.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 4:02 PM

President Biden?

wolfsDad on February 10, 2014 at 3:45 PM

I hope he runs. I can’t wait to see his campaign hit Hilary on Benghazi. I am going to grab the popcorn with glee..

melle1228 on February 10, 2014 at 3:48 PM

…or John F’n Kerry. From his new perch in State he has probably been able to find out what the h really happened in Benghazi.

slickwillie2001 on February 10, 2014 at 4:02 PM

It’s odd…amnesty shills don’t seem to realize that they are amnesty shills.

kpguru on February 10, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Better idea. Enact it after Schumer is out of office. I do not trust him any more than Reid.

mouell on February 10, 2014 at 4:04 PM

I guess Schumer never watched Popeye….

How about we let Obama leave office and THEN
we will pass reform?

redguy on February 10, 2014 at 4:06 PM

So…you trust a “border security” bill to go into conference and not to come out as an Amnesty bill?

Right.

Hot Air = Amnesty Shill.

elowe on February 10, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Why does anyone listen to a word these snakes say? They’ve been proven, time and time again to not only be completely untrustworthy, but they’ve also been proven time and time again to be WRONG about virtually everything.

Recent Examples:

Stimulus 1, 2, 3, etc.
The Auto Bailouts
ObamaGlitch
Shovel-Ready Yobs
EVERY Green Energy scam Obama has wasted Billions on
ObamaGlitch
Closing Club Guantanamo (they’re wrong to even try to close it)
The 11 Million illegal aliens in the “shadows” (The actual number is closer to 50 Million).
ObamaGlitch

Stop listening to idiot leftists. Problem solved.

Left_is_Wrong on February 10, 2014 at 4:07 PM

I’d much rather have the border secured prior to any implementation.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Yes, but that cannot be done until Obama is out of office…..

redguy on February 10, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Yes, but that cannot be done until Obama is out of office…..

redguy on February 10, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Well, there IS that to look forward to–and the sooner the better ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 4:10 PM

The real problem is republicans being afraid the newly legalized citizens will vote Democrat.

It has nothing to do with Obama.

liberalrules on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

You’re trying to push Obama off of the plantation he built with our money. Yeah, he built that one.

onomo on February 10, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Assume immigration reform is definitely in the cards sometime in the next three years. (Which it is.) Is there any argument for taking Schumer up on his offer? I.e. pass it now and then delay implementation a la ObamaCare? I can’t think of one.

Immigration reform would be enforcing immigration laws that we have on the books. Why pass anything until the politicians prove they can enforce current laws and not change them with the stroke of a pen?

Vince on February 10, 2014 at 4:12 PM

President Biden?

wolfsDad on February 10, 2014 at 3:45 PM

I hope he runs. I can’t wait to see his campaign hit Hilary on Benghazi. I am going to grab the popcorn with glee..

melle1228 on February 10, 2014 at 3:48 PM

…or John F’n Kerry. From his new perch in State he has probably been able to find out what the h really happened in Benghazi.

slickwillie2001 on February 10, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Wow – those could be very entertaining indeed.

Midas on February 10, 2014 at 4:14 PM

You can always count on AP for the defeatist propaganda.

Jon0815 on February 10, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Welcome to the premier RINO blog on the internet.

Wigglesworth on February 10, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Schumer is a liar and a fraud.

In the 1986 amnesty, Schumer and his amnesty-pimping buddies told Americans that illegal aliens needed to get amnesty, so that they would be brought into the system and pair their fair share of taxes. Before they received amnesty, Schumer said they would have to pay back taxes and go through background checks.

Of course, there were never any background checks, and the government later admitted that the amnesty application process was rife with fraud, and that the government was powerless to do anything about it. The government also estimated that around 1/3 of approved amnesty applications were based on forged or fraudulent documents.

As for the back taxes, after the amnesty bill was passed, Schumer inserted a line into a subsequent tax bill that prohibited the INS (now ICE) from sending illegal aliens’ U.S. income information to the IRS. Without that information, there was no way for the IRS to collect the back taxes owed by amnestied illegal aliens. IOW, after promising Americans that illegals would be required to pay their back taxes, Schumer quietly made sure that amnestied illegal aliens would be exempt from the requirement of paying back taxes. http://cis.org/what-back-taxes

AZCoyote on February 10, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Besides, if we manage to take the Senate in spite of our stupid infighting, we can write bills that actually address the real problems with better solutions instead of just trying to trick the country into another amnesty with empty promises of future enforcement.

Adjoran on February 10, 2014 at 3:58 PM

What evidence have we seen to think that a GOP majority in the Senate would produce immigration bills “that actually address the real problems with better solutions”?

Why would we expect anything ‘better’ than the bill Rubio and his bi-partisan cohorts were trying to get passed?

Midas on February 10, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Schumer is the epitome of everything that is wrong with Congress. He’s nothing more than a cheap, political opportunist who has no interest in what’s best for our country- only what is best for Democrats. Look how that has turned out for Americans.

Schumer has never had a real job and has been part of the Washington Establishment for years.

It’s about time we sent people like him packing and into the real world.

Or at least into a job selling Sham-Wow’s.

Marcus Traianus on February 10, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Schumer calls Boehner’s bluff:

This is like a Huffington Post headline. Hot Air is going full blown libtard. Schumer is suggesting we structure so-called immigration reform just like Obamcare. Lots of good blog titles could be taken from this analogy.

Wigglesworth on February 10, 2014 at 4:17 PM

The real problem is republicans being afraid the newly legalized citizens will vote Democrat.

It has nothing to do with Obama.

liberalrules on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

The simple fact is that d’ohbama is a liar and a con man…and he cannot be trusted to keep his word or follow the law or the Constitution.
Why should we make a deal with some clown who is so blatantly untrustworthy?

[And, no. Congressional democRATS are just as dishonest and just as untrustworthy as lil barry is. They won't keep a deal either.]

Solaratov on February 10, 2014 at 4:20 PM

liberalrules on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

The 50 million newly legalized “citizens” would vote DimocRat, not because the Dims are all that and a box of chocolates.

But because the 50 million new “citizens” are used to Socialist and/or Dictatorship type governments and because this is all they know, without any kind of naturalization going on, would in 70-80% of the cases, vote for the closest thing to it in America. The DimocRat party.

Left_is_Wrong on February 10, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Schumer has never had a real job and has been part of the Washington Establishment for years.

It’s about time we sent people like him packing and into the real world.

Or at least into a job selling Sham-Wow’s.

Marcus Traianus on February 10, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Keep him AWAY from my sham-wows, please! How about something more suited to his personality, like selling snake oil door-to-door to piranhas?

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Assume immigration reform is definitely in the cards sometime in the next three years. (Which it is.) Is there any argument for taking Schumer up on his offer? I.e. pass it now and then delay implementation a la ObamaCare? I can’t think of one.

Q) What’s the difference between passing immigration reform in 2014 and implementing it in 2017 and passing ObamaCare in 2010 and implementing it in 2013?

A) Four years. That’s the ONLY difference.

In both cases, Democrats get credit and get re-elected, and Republicans have to clean up the mess. Let’s not go there again, especially since a Republican House can stop it.

Steve Z on February 10, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Let’s not and say we did!

nobama1267 on February 10, 2014 at 4:24 PM

If the democratics really want to pass immigration reform, why don’t they just wait until after this year’s election? Then, according to them, they will control both houses of congress because the GOP failed to pass amnesty.

Also, the democratics controlled the presidency and both chambers of congress for two years: 2009 and 2010. Why didn’t they pass “comprehensive” immigration reform then?

The answer to both of these questions is that the democratics know that if the republicans participate in, or allow, amnesty they will lose a large part of their base, and, they also know that if the democratics pass amnesty on their own they will lose some of their moderate voters.

It’s only safe for democratics to pass amnesty with republicans.

jaime on February 10, 2014 at 4:30 PM

You can always count on AP for the defeatist propaganda.

Jon0815 on February 10, 2014 at 3:38 PM

He isn’t known as Eyeore for nothing.

Jeff Weimer on February 10, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Just another example of how stupid this POS gasbag thinks we are. Let’s pass the bill and then post-date it until 2017. Then, 15 nanoseconds after passage, the REB signs an EO moving the date to today.

Ok, we’re not that stupid, but the GOPe – IS.

HomeoftheBrave on February 10, 2014 at 4:32 PM

As Senator Schumer has proven time and time and time again on issue after issue after issue, he is no more trustworthy than President Obama is or ever will be, i.e not at all.

Any Republican with an ounce of pull re: how immigration reform will be decided should insist that Schumer be completely frozen out of any and all negotiations.

He gets one vote as a Senator and that’s it. If he so much as shows up to the negotiating table, Republicans should immediately walk away, and explain why in precise & voluminous detail.

Sacramento on February 10, 2014 at 4:39 PM

liberalrules on February 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Not at all. We just know that liberals LIE about enforcement to get comprehensive immigration amnesty passed, and then refuse to follow through on the deal. We’ve seen it time and time again. Never trust a liberal when their lips are moving… or when they aren’t moving…

Oh, and love your nick. Liberals DO love to rule over others. Slavery was their crowning achievement… and they’ve hated us Republicans ever since…

dominigan on February 10, 2014 at 4:39 PM

VDH’s column this week on PJ Media highlights some of the real problems and real issues around immigration via an immigration morality tale. Among the problems, the fecklessness of the press to minimize the real problems related to immigration…. illegal immigration.

If there are executive orders overriding federal immigration law to extend amnesty to foreign nationals, without legal residence, and to continue their educations, there are also de facto all sorts of un-Dream Acts that simply allow anyone wishing to enter the United States without much audit. In other words, one of the strangest things about illegal immigration is that a nation that is monitored, taped, videoed, and bugged, that is struggling now with the AP, IRS, and NSA scandals whose common theme is excessive government intrusions in our private lives, knows absolutely nothing about those who arrive illegally into the U.S.

The point of this disturbing story is simply this: We are told the victims are those who enter the United States illegally and without our language and customs. I grant that they may be victims sometimes, but the surrounding community is even more victimized by extending unsustainable social and state services to those who are often not cooperative and honest with them, often at the expense of citizens who are struggling in recessionary times to pay for it and in frustration will not use the services themselves that they need and must pay for. At some point, Americans must grasp that each time a foreign national chooses not to apply for legal entrance but simply breaks federal law and crosses the border, that is the beginning, not the end, of an entire chain of events that so often do not end well for anyone.

How can we reform the existing law – when, by choice, our government doesn’t enforce the existing law?

How can we reform the existing law when we cannot differentiate between those who follow the law and those who ignore the law?

How can we reform the existing law when those calling for reform can’t be intellectually honest about the issue?

Anytime someone speaks about the pressing need for ‘immigration reform’ and refuses or cannot differentiate between legal immigrants and illegal immigrants, all that they say has to be suspect and untrusted.

Athos on February 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Most folks talk about amnesty being the beginning of the end for Republicans because once the illegal immigrants are legalized and naturalized, they will overwhelming vote for Democrats. That’s probably true, but there’s another reason it will spell the end of the GOP. If amnesty passes, many in the Republican base will never vote for anyone who voted for the bill itself, voted for cloture for the bill, or campaigned for the bill’s passage (even if they don’t vote for it).

I’m from MS, and my Senator (Roger Wicker) is already on that list since he voted for cloture on the Senate bill last year. I will work against his re-election in 2016 and will not vote for him regardless. IMO, if he doesn’t have any better judgment than to vote for cloture knowing the bill will pass, then he doesn’t have the judgment needed to be a US Senator.

yaedon on February 10, 2014 at 4:45 PM

In that case, though, why not go a step further? Let’s pass immigration reform now and then impeach Obama so that it can take effect immediately.

Oop! AP, have to be careful there:

Dem Strategist: You Don’t Try to Impeach Someone Because ‘They’re Black in the White House’
(CNSNews.com) – Democratic strategist Angela Rye in an appearance on MSNBC’s “PoliticsNation” on Friday accused Republicans of trying to impeach President Barack Obama, because he’s “black in the White House.”

“You don’t just fight to get the person out of office because you don’t like how they comb their hair, the color of their skin or the fact that they’re black in the White House. That’s not what you do,” said Rye, executive director and general counsel to the Congressional Black Caucus.

DinaRehn on February 10, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Oops. I mean 2018. Man, 6-year terms for Senators just get longer and longer, don’t they?

yaedon on February 10, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Chucky, you still don’t get it.

Obama doesn’t pay attention to timelines, so even if it doesn’t take effect until 2016 Obama may implement portions before then…

Oh, I see, YOU DO GET IT.

jaydee_007 on February 10, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Why does Schumer think we would trust him?

ctmom on February 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM

How about we agree to pass immigration reform, but on the condition that it has strong enforcement provisions and a clause that states that any deviation from the exact letter of the law will, for Constitutional purposes, constitute “high crimes” and will be grounds for immediate impeachment?

Shump on February 10, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Immigration reform in its current guises is a lose-lose for the GOP. “Pathway to citizenship” provides the vote to a substantial block of lower income folks the clear majority of which will vote Democrat to get the promised freebies. Doing nothing provides a wedge issue for Democrats to beat the GOP over the head with at election time.

Dan333 on February 10, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Pass immigration reform, but use a favorite quota system. For every illegal alien the democrats want in, the republicans can chose one of there own – from China, Europe, Russia, H1B visas. It’s “fair”, its “balanced”. It brings over millionaires to support the vagabonds. Net, net we could actually import capital – both labor and finance. Wow!!! genius.

Connecticut on February 10, 2014 at 5:56 PM

No, Chuck, let’s shove amnesty up your a**.

BuckeyeSam on February 10, 2014 at 5:56 PM

How about amnesty for everyone who turns in five illegal immigrants who get deported?

BuckeyeSam on February 10, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Pass immigration reform, but use a favorite quota system. For every illegal alien the democrats want in, the republicans can chose one of there own – from China, Europe, Russia, H1B visas. It’s “fair”, its “balanced”. It brings over millionaires to support the vagabonds. Net, net we could actually import capital – both labor and finance. Wow!!! genius.

Connecticut on February 10, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Let’s go back to requiring immigrants have some knowledge or skill that we need, like doctors, nurses, engineers, scientists, writers, etc. The last thing we need is another few million lawn-care workers which is what the progs want.

Re millionaires, there has always been an immigration program for those willing to bring money into the US, to invest or build or buy businesses. I believe it starts around a million USD or so.

slickwillie2001 on February 10, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Q: What doesSchumer call illegal aliens?

A: Undocumented democrats.

Robert R. Lake on February 10, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Do you think Schumer will run for president?

Fleuries on February 10, 2014 at 6:21 PM

Hotair pushing amnesty again. With friends like Allahpundit, conservatives don’t need enemies.

weathermen on February 10, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Doing nothing provides a wedge issue for Democrats to beat the GOP over the head with at election time.

Dan333

You realize it’s a two-way street right? We get to hammer democrats over the head too. I think we win that argument. And btw, every issue is a wedge issue(well, it used to be, lol). That’s why there are two parties.

xblade on February 10, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Schumer isn’t calling Boehner’s bluff … Chuckie is counting on President Hillary in 2017, in which case SHE will simply ignore any enforcement or border security stipulations in a so called ‘Comprehensive’ Immigration Reform Law.

Here is what the Republiconartists should do: Pass a law to build the fence; the whole fence; the entire border. Build a second fence 200 yards in from the first! Station an Army Division on the border. Patrol the fence with armed troops in Humvees. Build guard towers at regular intervals. Install equipment capable of detecting any tunneling activity. Then dare Chuckie to pass that! When Harry and the demorats refuse … hammer them as being anti border security, not interested in protecting the country from terrorists!

r27cj on February 10, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Let’s pass immigration reform now and then impeach Obama so that it can take effect immediately.

Heh.

Jaibones on February 10, 2014 at 7:37 PM

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