Quotes of the day

posted at 10:31 pm on February 10, 2014 by Allahpundit

Now Mr. Sam enters an uncharted area of the sports landscape. He is making his public declaration [that he's gay] before he is drafted, to the potential detriment to his professional career. And he is doing so as he prepares to enter a league with an overtly macho culture, where controversies over homophobia have attracted recent attention…

Between now and the draft, Mr. Sam plans to attend the scouting combine, where players are put through a gantlet of physical and mental tests to judge their readiness for the N.F.L. Mr. Sam might be considered too small for an N.F.L. defensive end, meaning he would have to learn to play as an outside linebacker. But it is reasonable for Mr. Sam to wonder what sort of effect — positive or negative — his declaration will have on his prospects.

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But from a purely football perspective, his decision to come out prior to May’s NFL draft will make his path to the league daunting, eight NFL executives and coaches told SI.com.

In blunt terms, they project a significant drop in Sam’s draft stock, a publicity circus and an NFL locker room culture not prepared to deal with an openly gay player. Sam, the SEC Defensive Player of the Year, was projected as a mid- to late-round draft pick prior to his announcement…

“I don’t think football is ready for [an openly gay player] just yet,” said an NFL player personnel assistant. “In the coming decade or two, it’s going to be acceptable, but at this point in time it’s still a man’s-man game. To call somebody a [gay slur] is still so commonplace. It’d chemically imbalance an NFL locker room and meeting room.”…

Multiple NFL executives questioned Sam’s decision to come out now, as he will be the biggest story in football between now and the NFL draft on May 8.

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“We talked about it this week,” the GM said. “First of all, we don’t think he’s a very good player. The reality is he’s an overrated football player in our estimation. Second: He’s going to have expectations about where he should be drafted, and I think he’ll be disappointed. He’s not going to get drafted where he thinks he should. The question you will ask yourself, knowing your team, is, ‘How will drafting him affect your locker room?’ And I am sorry to say where we are at this point in time, I think it’s going to affect most locker rooms. A lot of guys will be uncomfortable. Ten years from now, fine. But today, I think being openly gay is a factor in the locker room.”

I asked this general manager: “Do you think he’ll be drafted?”

“No,” he said

During the draft, a team that has Sam graded barely above another pass-rush prospect in the third or fourth round may ask itself: Will all the distractions—the network news trucks, the questioning of his teammates about accepting a gay teammate—be worth it? Or should we just draft the other guy and not worry about Sam’s off-field stuff?

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A comparison to Jason Collins, the National Basketball Association player who came out last spring, is instructive. It’s not a competition, but—ignoring for a moment that Collins did it first—Sam’s coming out is a much bigger deal. Collins came out at age 34 and near or at the conclusion of his career as a professional athlete, having made a living playing ball for 12 years. Sam came out at age 24 and the very beginning of his career, with all of his earning years ahead of him. Especially given where they respectively are, Sam is simply better, and therefore risking more. Though some have raised their eyebrows at the fact that no NBA teams have signed Collins, it has not became a major controversy because it is plausible that Collins would not receive a roster spot on the merits. By contrast, if Sam is not drafted and there is no obvious reason why other than the most obvious reason, it will rightly be a scandal. Finally—and I say this with a lot of love for professional basketball—there is nothing in American sports like the NFL…

Sam killed it this past season, leading his team to the conference championship game with a conference-leading 11.5 sacks. And his teammates knew. And they—dozens of college kids!—were respectful and discreet enough that we are only learning about this now, because Sam wanted us to. “There are guys in locker rooms that maturity-wise cannot handle it or deal with the thought of that,” one NFL assistant coach told SI. Whichever NFL franchises believe their locker rooms aren’t ready for Sam might want to consider cutting everyone and starting afresh. They could do worse than by drafting this Missouri Tiger—or any Missouri Tiger.

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Sam said he was thrilled with the show of support within the program.

“Just to see their reaction was awesome,” he told ESPN. “They supported me from day one. I couldn’t have better teammates. … I’m telling you what: I wouldn’t have the strength to do this today if I didn’t know how much support they’d given me this past semester.”…

Pinkel said no players came directly to the coaching staff with concerns after Sam revealed his sexual orientation to the team, but he suspects that there was initially a mixed reaction.

“There are certainly players that have differences of opinions, not only on this but other social issues,” Pinkel said. “I’m not naive enough to believe that [there is not], I’m sure there are. But at the end of the day, it’s about the team, it’s about the family. We accept one another, we accept our differences, and that’s where respect and understanding is important.”

***

“I think the bottom line for most players is — if you have a teammate that can help you win, it doesn’t matter,” said John Murray, a clinical and sports psychologist in Palm Beach, Fla., who has worked with NFL athletes…

In ideal circumstances, a team may function much like a family, experts say “Teams are going to protect their own,” Murray said.

“The family will kind of circle the wagons, and protect their secret,” he said. “Because a family very well represents that concept of a unit that needs to be able to be cohesive to be able to perform well, to be able to win.”

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What undergirds this logic is a fear of being made into a woman, which is to say a fear of being regarded sexually by someone who is as strong as, or stronger than, you. Implicit to the fear is the gay player’s ability to do violence. It exists right alongside a belief that the gay player is a “sissy.” (“Grown men should not have female tendencies. Period,” Vilma once tweeted.) The logic is kin to the old Confederate belief that Southern slaves were so loyal and cowardly yet they must never be given guns.

The mythology Jonathan Vilma endorses will not fade through vague endorsements of “tolerance,” lectures on “acceptance,” nor any other species of heartfelt magic. The question which we so often have been offered—is the NFL ready for a gay player?—is backwards. Powerful interests are rarely “ready” for change, so much as they are assaulted by it. We refer to barriers being “broken” for a reason.

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One thing many people miss about that time [1947] — the most powerful enemies of integration were not the red-faced extremists and racists who turned on fire hoses and lined the streets while shouting at black children trying to go to school. No, the real battle was being waged at the dinner tables of middle-class families, in the thoughtful conversation of universities and office buildings, in swing-set talks on the playground. There, Jackie Robinson’s cause was not viewed as unmistakable. There, the counter arguments sounded so reasonable.

The arguments: Black players, because of their backgrounds, cannot handle the intensity of Major League Baseball (“It’s not their fault!” the more progressive would add). They don’t have the attitude or intelligence to play the game at the highest level. Some racist white teammates, you see, will not accept a black player. Team chemistry, always so fragile, will be shattered. Yes, of course, it would be wonderful if everyone was treated equally; it’s something we should all strive for, but the world is a harsh place, the world does not have only open-minded people, the world is not such a nirvana yet. And black players have their own Negro Leagues already…

Immediately after the announcement, there were the expected reactions — widespread and heartfelt praise for Sam’s courage and the more limited gay slurs and dismissals mostly hidden behind anonymity and Twitter handles. But, like with Jackie Robinson, the battle is not waged on the high or low ground of the extremes. It is waged in the center. And in the center you can see that the Michael Sam story — and the story of how we see gay people in 2014 — is extremely complicated.

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We will find out who is expressing support for Sam as just a convenient public stance, the pat vocabulary of acceptance pandering to the corporate sponsors, and who is willing to genuinely change the culture of their organizations beyond the cameras.

Make no mistake, Sam will be under pressure from gays, too. The danger with aligning himself with any broad-brushed “community” is that pretty soon some people will be telling him there is a right and a wrong way to be gay. He will find out what all public performers in all fields know, that an audience can be highly proprietary, sometimes in an ugly way. As Jodie Foster once wrote in Esquire, “I can be rejected for physical reality, the audience’s perception of who I am. Consequently, I become the property of my judges.”

***

Michael Sam is no longer just auditioning for an NFL roster spot; he’s also angling for a monumental place in American history. How will current, closeted NFL players feel about this in the coming months? Will the Kleig lights now shining on Sam move them to one-up him as the first?…

Chances are high there is a star-caliber closeted NFL player watching Sam’s story unfold with a mixture of admiration and jealously. Gay athletes have just as big of egos as straight ones, and NFL veterans risk a lot to earn and keep jobs in their industry. They often show rookies their place, whether through hazing rituals, or agreeing to CBA terms which have ensured players in the first years of their career earn less than their elders no matter how good they are. Now that Sam has shown that on the whole society is warm to the idea of a gay NFL player, it doesn’t make sense that someone of Aaron Rodgers’s stature would voluntarily relinquish a form of immortality to some unproven pup.

Unprecedented cross-cultural appeal as the first openly gay—and actually good—player in America’s top sport is a valuable possession. It is bouncing Michael Sam’s way, but remains very much in play.

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This is getting tiring. This can end TODAY with one quality starter on one football or basketball team pulling a Neil Patrick Harris and then going on about his business. By coming out and being so admirably open, Sam has made this process even easier. He’s the perfect ambassador. And yet, if no one joins him, he still might find himself on the discard pile. And if that happens, the chance will be lost again. Players like Sam will continue to stick their necks out and get guillotined as long as it remains easy for GMs to collectively blacklist a gay player who is either a) a marginal talent or b) can easily be portrayed as a marginal talent.

Now that Sam is here, someone else needs to step forward who cannot be so easily ignored, who will extract a bare shred of courage from his team’s GM. Someone has to make what will, in the end, be a relatively small sacrifice given that fans are dicks to athletes no matter who they are or how they perform. Someone, a star, needs to break through the ceiling so that Sam won’t break his f***ing neck crashing into it. All it takes it one other guy. One other voice. Michael Sam shouldn’t have to do this alone because he ISN’T alone, and we all know it.

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The voice on the other end of the line produced a knowing laugh, one confident in the knowledge gleaned from 15 years in NFL locker rooms. In Matt Birk’s estimation, the players’ sanctuary is the last place to expect problems for Missouri defensive end Michael Sam, whose historic announcement Sunday makes it likely he will be the first openly gay man to play in the NFL.

“I would put it like this,” Birk said. “Over the years I can think of 10, maybe 12 guys that I played with that I know are gay. Everyone on the team knew they were gay, and they knew that everyone knew they were gay. They didn’t take that step of going public, but it never was an issue in my experiences.

“I get why this is an issue, especially when you look at the bullying story with [Miami Dolphins offensive linemen] Jonathan Martin and Richie Incognito. I get why people would be concerned. But I think we really underestimate football players sometimes.”

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BishBop!!!!

KCB on February 10, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Draft stock falling like Obama’s approval ratings.

/BISHOP!

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:31 PM

For what, Tuesday?

Bishop on February 10, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Oh, and I find the comparisons to Jackie Robinson to be DISGRACEFUL.

Jackie Robinson didn’t DECLARE HIMSELF BLACK!

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:32 PM

Damn, it’s cold outside…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:33 PM

For what, Tuesday?

Bishop on February 10, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Nevermind that! Where are Carbon and Geo???

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 10:34 PM

I’m sure that all of the media supporting Sam will go make a tally of all of the Tim Tebow/Lolo Jones virgin jokes they made.

Oh wait. No, they won’t. Anything but virginity is acceptable.

Darin on February 10, 2014 at 10:34 PM

The homosexual is better than a fat-boy thread…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:34 PM

[Where you followed? Is it safe?]

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 10:34 PM

Great, just great.

KCB on February 10, 2014 at 10:35 PM

a cappela is back as butch…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:35 PM

Are you ready for some Football!!!

A Monday night party!!

We got Frank and Al and a bunch of Grab azz!!

ToddPA on February 10, 2014 at 10:35 PM

The homosexual is better than a fat-boy thread…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:34 PM

HotFat/Gay/StonedGas

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM

Oh, and I find the comparisons to Jackie Robinson to be DISGRACEFUL.

Jackie Robinson didn’t DECLARE HIMSELF BLACK!

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:32 PM

This is very true.
This whole situation with Sam smells of a set up, too.

Doc Holliday on February 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM

Someone puts their Smarmy fingerprints all over my touch screen.

SparkPlug on February 10, 2014 at 10:37 PM

Lanceman loves pickles.

SparkPlug on February 10, 2014 at 10:37 PM

SparkPlug on February 10, 2014 at 10:37 PM

Don’t look at me–I keep my mitts off married folk!

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 10:37 PM

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM

Hey Pantherman…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Traffic bait…?

d1carter on February 10, 2014 at 10:38 PM

I don’t care if he’s gay. Does he love giraffes?

wolly4321 on February 10, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Clever way to get himself drafted. If he isn’t he can scream discrimination.

crankyoldlady on February 10, 2014 at 10:38 PM

This is very true.
This whole situation with Sam smells of a set up, too.

Doc Holliday on February 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM

He will sue the NFL if not a 1st Rounder. MARK MY WORDS.

And some leftist black robed tyrant will award him a BILLION.

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:38 PM

“All his RowdyAzz lovin friends are back for Monday Night!!

ToddPA on February 10, 2014 at 10:39 PM

I don’t care if he’s gay. Does he love giraffes?

wolly4321 on February 10, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Ratso would have loved a piece of that action…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:39 PM

Attention newbies:

I’m the original gay conservative poster here (at least I think I am). I’ve been out to HotAir since 2006! I’m not sure what y’all should do with this news, but I wanted to have my truth out there.

SouthernGent on February 10, 2014 at 10:39 PM

Quick!! Is there a team called The Old Dusty Trail???

The RedSkins should reconsider…

BigWyo on February 10, 2014 at 10:39 PM

He plays loose end.

wolly4321 on February 10, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Lanceman loves pickles.

SparkPlug on February 10, 2014 at 10:37 PM

I do love me some Pickles.

Pantherman on February 10, 2014 at 10:39 PM

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 10:40 PM

This was a total Ha-Ha today! Thank you, NYT!

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Whichever NFL franchises believe their locker rooms aren’t ready for Sam might want to consider cutting everyone and starting afresh. They could do worse than by drafting this Missouri Tiger—or any Missouri Tiger.


You will be MADE to care

Interesting belief system you’ve got there, Liberals/Progressives/Leftists.

Completely out of touch with reality … but then again, the cannon fodder usually is …

PolAgnostic on February 10, 2014 at 10:40 PM

I don’t care if he’s gay. Does he love giraffes?

wolly4321 on February 10, 2014 at 10:38 PM

He has one in his pants… *rim tap*

SouthernGent on February 10, 2014 at 10:40 PM

I don’t think this “revelation” by Sam will hurt him in the draft.

The NFL is all about winning (and pushing the liberal agenda). You see what kind of behavior NFL teams are willing to tolerate. And Sam, as far as I know, doesn’t have any anti-social behavior in his background. The only people who will make an issue of Sam’s personal choices are the media.

jaime on February 10, 2014 at 10:41 PM

SouthernGent on February 10, 2014 at 10:39 PM

Are you bragging or complaining? How does that alter any opinions you might post? Should/Do we care?

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Attention newbies:

I’m the original gay conservative poster here (at least I think I am). I’ve been out to HotAir since 2006! I’m not sure what y’all should do with this news, but I wanted to have my truth out there.

SouthernGent on February 10, 2014 at 10:39 PM

This post right here is sheer brilliance.

ToddPA on February 10, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Dirt Roads????

BigWyo on February 10, 2014 at 10:42 PM

I’m the original gay conservative poster here (at least I think I am). I’ve been out to HotAir since 2006! I’m not sure what y’all should do with this news, but I wanted to have my truth out there.

SouthernGent on February 10, 2014 at 10:39 PM

I think Jetboy’s been here just as long. But he’s all in your face about it.

The gay, not the, uh, longevity.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 10:42 PM

jaime on February 10, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Unless he’s drafted by the Redskins :0

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 10:43 PM

SouthernGent on February 10, 2014 at 10:39 PM

That’s a pretty gay comment.

Bishop on February 10, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Evening All.

CoffeeLover on February 10, 2014 at 10:43 PM

CoffeeLover on February 10, 2014 at 10:43 PM

CL!! Missed you earlier. You OK?

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 10:44 PM

He will sue the NFL if not a 1st Rounder. MARK MY WORDS.

And some leftist black robed tyrant will award him a BILLION.

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:38 PM

He was never projected to go higher than the 3rd round and this didn’t help that.

RickB on February 10, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Dude’s not a QB, right, because I’m thinking the center might get a little…you know….nervous up there on the line.

Bishop on February 10, 2014 at 10:45 PM

He plays loose end.

wolly4321 on February 10, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Barry Soetoro LOVES him some “tight ends”.
And I’m not talking about Mochelle (obviously) /wink wink nudge nudge

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:45 PM

The real story here is why the managers and owners would be reluctant to bring him on. I understand it probably isn’t because of their own personal feelings, and they are just looking out for their franchises and maybe don’t want all of the extra attention, but isn’t it wrong that such a disclosure about sexual orientation could destroy a talented athlete’s prospects for a professional career? I think it’s obviously wrong. The goal should be reaching a point where this is a nonissue. And if getting to that point means that someone like this player had to do what he did, then I think people should appreciate his actions.

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 10:45 PM

I think Jetboy’s been here just as long. But he’s all in your face about it.

The gay, not the, uh, longevity.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Big time today in teh ghey thread…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Are you bragging or complaining? How does that alter any opinions you might post? Should/Do we care?

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Exactly! You got it.

SouthernGent on February 10, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Since I don’t even like football, excuse me for not worrying overmuch one way or the other.

As for his “potential” one way or another on the field, again, don’t care.

Except, two words; Maurice Clarett. Who managed in about one year to morph from OSU Buckeye wunderkind into… Dennis Rodman-level head case.

I see the “potential” for a repeat.

clear ether

eon

eon on February 10, 2014 at 10:45 PM

I fail to see why the sort of company in which a college student in the Midwest prefers to engage in a non-essential biological function is national news.

Some days I think I might have this whole “humanity” dealy figured out, but I always get slapped back down again…

Inkblots on February 10, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Hey CL, how are ya?

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Damn, it’s cold outside…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:33 PM


One of our local channels’ websites is predicitng a high of 64 F for the 21st …

… I’m thinking they’ve adjusted their long range forecast to cut down on the death threats the weather team is getting.

PolAgnostic on February 10, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Evening All.

CoffeeLover on February 10, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Thanks for reminding me. I need to finish up the coffee before I go to bed.

crankyoldlady on February 10, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Big time today in teh ghey thread…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:45 PM

I know. Why is it SouthernGent never feels deprived of something?

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 10:46 PM

The real story here is why the managers and owners would be reluctant to bring him on. I understand it probably isn’t because of their own personal feelings, and they are just looking out for their franchises and maybe don’t want all of the extra attention, but isn’t it wrong that such a disclosure about sexual orientation could destroy a talented athlete’s prospects for a professional career? I think it’s obviously wrong. The goal should be reaching a point where this is a nonissue. And if getting to that point means that someone like this player had to do what he did, then I think people should appreciate his actions.

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Unless this guy is Jim Thorpe, Jim Brown, or Joe Montana, he’s not worth the distractions.

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:47 PM

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 10:45 PM

One would think the important part would be can he play football. Then again, the PC brigade should be all a-quiver over this revelation and Heaven help the teams who don’t fight over this guy.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 10:47 PM

I think Jetboy’s been here just as long. But he’s all in your face about it.

The gay, not the, uh, longevity.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 10:42 PM

I honestly can’t remember anymore. I don’t post like I used to because of work restrictions. I should just get on Obamacare and post on HotAir all day or something.

SouthernGent on February 10, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Heading out for a smoke. Nine degrees out there…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:47 PM

And to think, at the 10:41 mark, I was wondering if the water would get frothy.
Brought my chair and my Jack. Need a drink anyone? It’s flippin cold here too, OC..

fresh air on February 10, 2014 at 10:47 PM

He was never projected to go higher than the 3rd round and this didn’t help that.

RickB on February 10, 2014 at 10:44 PM

He’ll go in the 6th round to… San Francisco.

Am I a prophet or what?

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:48 PM

SouthernGent on February 10, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Now that we got THAT settled, glad to meet you, Southern!

And you can save your fingers–Newtie or N&B will be just fine :-D

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 10:48 PM

I know. Why is it SouthernGent never feels deprived of something?

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Because SG is a true conservative…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:48 PM

attention newbies: I’m the original gay conservative poster here (at least I think I am). I’ve been out to HotAir since 2006! I’m not sure what y’all should do with this news, but I wanted to have my truth out there. SouthernGent on February.
10, 2014 at 10:39 PM

I’ve been here a while, and know that.

My point is,, I don’t really care. I mean that respectfully. It doesn’t make any difference to me. None.

Neither does it with this dude.

Unless there is an agenda. You don’t appear to have one.

Let this dude get passed over, and we will see if he does.

wolly4321 on February 10, 2014 at 10:48 PM

He’ll go in the 6th round to… San Francisco.

Am I a prophet or what?

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Nope. First round with the Packers or the Browns.

Bishop on February 10, 2014 at 10:48 PM

One would think the important part would be can he play football. Then again, the PC brigade should be all a-quiver over this revelation and Heaven help the teams who don’t fight over this guy.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 10:47 PM

This is one draft mistake I DONT foresee my Cleveland Browns making!

(I hope)

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:48 PM

You will be MADE to care…

PolAgnostic on February 10, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Interesting. An Ed Morrissey Show post was permanently moved to the ‘Top Post’ column, moving a Palin post below the fold, and now the ‘giraffe’ post is left in the right column, leaving the “NFL prospect” post above the fold for the evening.

wolfsDad on February 10, 2014 at 10:49 PM

You will be MADE to care…

PolAgnostic on February 10, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Why? Because ESPN will MAKE SURE WE CARE.

OR RAM IT DOWN OUR THROATS ANYWAY.

One reason why that network sucks balls and is why I don’t watch it anymore, even WHEN my Kentucky Wildcats are on.

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Is this the place for the obligatory newbie check-in and introduction?

Oh …hi.

Alien on February 10, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Barry Soetoro LOVES him some “tight ends”.
And I’m not talking about Mochelle (obviously) /wink wink nudge nudge

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:45 PM


… AND
that whole Beyonce affair schtick is just a smoke screen for the QUALITY time he spends with Jay-Z.

{know what I mean?}

/wink wink nudge nudge

PolAgnostic on February 10, 2014 at 10:50 PM

I honestly can’t remember anymore. I don’t post like I used to because of work restrictions. I should just get on Obamacare and post on HotAir all day or something.

SouthernGent on February 10, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Only reason I mentioned it is I’ve been going back in time due to new trollage and trying to identify.

It would seem you and Jetboy have been here since 2006.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 10:51 PM

SouthernGent on February 10, 2014 at 10:47 PM

This site was founded in 2006 so you’ve been here since the beginning. I remember you being here when I got here in 2007.

jaime on February 10, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Because ESPN will MAKE SURE WE CARE.

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:50 PM

What’s an E-Spin?

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 10:51 PM

A comparison to Jason Collins, the National Basketball Association player who came out last spring, is instructive.

The fact that Jason Collins went unsigned had nothing to do with his sexual orientation. Nobody was interested in a 34-year-old journeyman who had averaged 3.6 pts and 2.5 rebounds per game for his entire career.

On the other hand, I think Sam’s draft stock will go down because of his admission. I think teams will be hesitant to take on the media hype and distraction that will follow this guy.

TarheelBen on February 10, 2014 at 10:51 PM

He’ll go in the 6th round to… San Francisco.

Am I a prophet or what?

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Nope. First round with the Packers or the Browns.

Bishop on February 10, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Long as it ain’t the PANTHERS!!

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Honestly, I’m not the best one to comment on professional football. I don’t think I’ve ever sat through a whole NFL game in my life, but I have been to the Rose Bowl before. I know that is college-level. That’s about as far as my knowledge goes.

bluegill on February 10, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Hey Newtie…I was late to the party. Was hoping you’d look down one last time before you bolted :(

OC (waving)…doing good how about yourself!!!

CoffeeLover on February 10, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Heading out for a smoke. Nine degrees out there…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Good excuse to give up smoking…or Omaha.

crankyoldlady on February 10, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Hey Newtie…I was late to the party. Was hoping you’d look down one last time before you bolted :(

OC (waving)…doing good how about yourself!!!

CoffeeLover on February 10, 2014 at 10:52 PM

I did, but it was about five minutes after you left. By that time, you were feeding your cute li’l face :-(

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Interesting. An Ed Morrissey Show post was permanently moved to the ‘Top Post’ column, moving a Palin post below the fold, and now the ‘giraffe’ post is left in the right column, leaving the “NFL prospect” post above the fold for the evening.

wolfsDad on February 10, 2014 at 10:49 PM

I’m all in…

Let’s get him!!!!

BigWyo on February 10, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Nope. First round with the Packers or the Browns.

Bishop on February 10, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Nope, the Steelers he will fit in with the rapist. They’re all about diversity.

RickB on February 10, 2014 at 10:53 PM

The Closet is getting mighty small these days..

And the door needs some oil..

Electrongod on February 10, 2014 at 10:53 PM

heading out for a smoke. Nine degrees out there… OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:47 Pm

We’re heading for 85° here by Valentines day.

wolly4321 on February 10, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Now. ‘Scuse me, while I kiss this guy…

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 10:54 PM

I don’t care if he’s gay. Does he love giraffes?

wolly4321 on February 10, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Yes, that IS the question!

TarheelBen on February 10, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Why do in notice?

Because they tell me…

Electrongod on February 10, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Electrongod on February 10, 2014 at 10:53 PM

[Passes over 3-in-1...]

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Heading out for a smoke. Nine degrees out there…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:47 PM

19′ here headed down to 8′ in Kentucky… Ugh. This winter is one of those BAD throwbacks to the 1970′s. Like the Obama Regime.

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:54 PM

crankyoldlady on February 10, 2014 at 10:46 PM

As you can guess, I never leave any coffee in the pot LOL!

CoffeeLover on February 10, 2014 at 10:54 PM

In = I

Electrongod on February 10, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Personally, I think the giraffe had it comin’. Oops, wrong thread!

TarheelBen on February 10, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Good excuse to give up smoking…or Omaha.

crankyoldlady on February 10, 2014 at 10:52 PM

I gave up Omaha once for thirty years, traded it for San Diego. Came back home in 2005…

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Nope. First round with the Packers or the Browns.

Bishop on February 10, 2014 at 10:48 PM

OR RAM IT DOWN OUR THROATS ANYWAY.

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:50 PM

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I’ve got to agree with CXI – he really wants to be a RAM.

PolAgnostic on February 10, 2014 at 10:55 PM

The Closet is getting mighty small these days..

And the door needs some oil..

Electrongod on February 10, 2014 at 10:53 PM

How much would you pay to see R Kelly try to get Obama “out the closet”?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LiuZLQbdTc

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Newtie…..not quite but I actually ate real food — yeah me

CoffeeLover on February 10, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Nope, the Steelers he will fit in with the rapist. They’re all about diversity.

RickB on February 10, 2014 at 10:53 PM

The Steelers don’t work because there isn’t any good way to tie this guy in with the team name after he gets drafted.

Bishop on February 10, 2014 at 10:56 PM

RickB on February 10, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Dude.

I hope the Steelers draft him. Their defense sucked this season.

jaime on February 10, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Dude.

I hope the Steelers draft him. Their defense sucked this season.

jaime on February 10, 2014 at 10:57 PM

As a Browns fan I hope this happens. We’ll taunt them as the “Pittsburgh Flamers”

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:57 PM

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Global warming?

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:57 PM

19′ here headed down to 8′ in Kentucky… Ugh. This winter is one of those BAD throwbacks to the 1970′s. Like the Obama Regime.

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:54 PM

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4 F here right now – fortunately they filled our propane tank on Friday or I’d be looking for a Ton-Ton.

PolAgnostic on February 10, 2014 at 10:58 PM

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Global warming?

OmahaConservative on February 10, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Yes, happening the day before the day after tomorrow.

OH MY GAWD! THATS TODAY!

Global Warming is CAUSING an ICE AGE.

ConstantineXI on February 10, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Nope, the Steelers he will fit in with the rapist. They’re all about diversity.

RickB on February 10, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Is there a rapist on the Steelers? I don’t follow them like I used to because they are hardly ever on tv here. It’s all those Browns and Bengals and who wants to watch them?

crankyoldlady on February 10, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Let’s get him!!!!

BigWyo on February 10, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Kindly try not to confuse observation with concern.

wolfsDad on February 10, 2014 at 10:58 PM

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