CBS News: Meet the sick children getting hosed by Obamacare

posted at 12:40 pm on February 10, 2014 by Guy Benson

A pretty unsparing segment from CBS News:

“This is not an isolated incident…The exclusion of a major provider like Seattle Children’s from a major insurance network in this market is unprecedented…we’re seeing denials in care, disruptions in care; we’re seeing a great deal of confusion and, at times, anger and frustration on the part of these families who bought insurance thinking that their children would be covered.  And they’ve in fact found that it’s a false promise.”

Reuters piles on, noting that Obamacare snafus are leaving…AIDS patients “in limbo,” too. In which two conflicting bureaucratic decrees leave one major insurance carrier befuddled, and hundreds of high-risk patients in the lurch:

Hundreds of people with HIV/AIDS in Louisiana trying to obtain coverage under President Barack Obama’s healthcare reform are in danger of being thrown out of the insurance plan they selected in a dispute over federal subsidies and the interpretation of federal rules about preventing Obamacare fraud…The state’s largest carrier is rejecting checks from a federal program designed to help these patients pay for AIDS drugs and insurance premiums, and has begun notifying customers that their enrollment in its Obamacare plans will be discontinued…The dispute goes back to a series of statements from Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), the lead Obamacare agency. In September, CMS informed insurers that Ryan White funds “may be used to cover the cost of private health insurance premiums, deductibles, and co-payments” for Obamacare plans. In November, however, it warned “hospitals, other healthcare providers, and other commercial entities” that it has “significant concerns” about their supporting premium payments and helping Obamacare consumers pay deductibles and other costs, citing the risk of fraud.

Phil Klein reported last week that HHS is weighing new regulatory actions aimed at ameliorating Obamacare’s “access shock” struggles.  The problem?  Mandating broader networks (70 percent of Obamacare’s hospital networks are “narrow” or “ultra-narrow,” according to a recent study) would address one flaw by exacerbating another:

The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services on Tuesday proposed a new guidance for 2015 aimed at expanding choices of doctors and hospitals on plans offered through the exchanges in President Obama’s health care law. But in an effort to answer one complaint of Obamacare, the proposed regulations could exacerbate another, by further driving up premiums…the Obama administration is facing a clear dilemma. The more benefits insurers are required to offer and the more providers they are forced to include in their networks in response to complaints about “access shock,” the higher insurance premiums will go, which will fuel more complaints of “rate shock.”

Pick your poison.  Moody’s downgraded the health insurance industry’s credit outlook last month, citing risk pool composition issues, as well as the disruptive climate of uncertainty casting a pall over the new law.  Recent events have vindicated both concerns, and have fortified additional long-standing conservative arguments against the multi-trillion-dollar experiment.  Here’s NBC’s David Gregory explaining how Democrats have essentially given up on winning the Obamacare debate in advance of the midterms:

Say, what happened to all the ‘you-bet-your-sweet-ass-we’re-running-on-Obamacare!’ bravado from DWS and company?  I’ll leave you with the following quote:

“You don’t want the election to be about Obamacare.”

Who said it?  Click through for the grand reveal.


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If you like your disease, you can keep your disease.

And die from it.

Welcome to government health care, where the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Wino on February 10, 2014 at 12:45 PM

“Dems will run on ObamaCare in 2014….”

Electrongod on February 10, 2014 at 12:45 PM

“You don’t want the election to be about Obamacare,” conceded Neera Tanden, president of the liberal Center for American Progress, which in the past has urged the White House to more aggressively sell the health care law.

From the mouth of the one of the lead apologist dirtbags.

Wonderful.

Let. It. Burn.

budfox on February 10, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Whatever is bad, though, we know it’s Bush’s fault ™.

Wino on February 10, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Don’t worry. Obama will slap some 3 year delay sticker on this.

chris0christies0donut on February 10, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Well of course the only solution now is single payer.

bgibbs1000 on February 10, 2014 at 12:51 PM

This is exactly why I didn’t want to have to be saying “I told you so.”

By far, the most infuriating thing about all of this is that this was not only easily predictable when this dookiefest was being passed, it was also widely predicted.

Gaze upon what you have wrought, Dems. Pretend to have a little bit of sympathy.

Red Cloud on February 10, 2014 at 12:52 PM

I take no pleasure anymore seeing these kind of stories. I did at first. Sure it’s gratifying seeing Democratic lies being exposed. But not at the expense of truly desperate and deserving patients. Sad, truly sad.

TexasJack on February 10, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Well of course the only solution now is single payer.

bgibbs1000 on February 10, 2014 at 12:51 PM

The goal from the start. Cause enough problems that people will clamor for it.

These kids are just collateral damage for the left.

Red Cloud on February 10, 2014 at 12:54 PM

I am sure those kids parents are happy they are not locked into a job. Now they can read a story or do an activity with them.

I hear that sitting in a waiting room wondering if they will be seen let alone treated is becoming a popular activity.

Gatsu on February 10, 2014 at 12:55 PM

And they’ve in fact found that it’s a false promise.”

Uh, this is still a surprise to some people?

DaveDief on February 10, 2014 at 12:56 PM

I’ve got to say, CBS (for whatever motive) has been more critical of Obamacare than its sister MSM outlets.

The Washington Post routinely puts out long stories about people who are benefiting under Obamacare. Invariably it turns out the beneficiaries are parasites who are sucking up thousands of dollars to pay for their healthcare. And they all think it is “free” money.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Well afterall – it is “for the children”.

This is the reality of what you get when the Dems do anything “for you”.

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2014 at 12:56 PM

I am sure those kids parents are happy they are not locked into a job. Now they can read a story or do an activity with them.

I hear that sitting in a waiting room wondering if they will be seen let alone treated is becoming a popular activity.

Gatsu on February 10, 2014 at 12:55 PM

But freedom from job lock makes it much easier to schedule your kids medical appointments- even if you don’t know if they will be treated by your health plan! And you might just have time to cook them dinner too! Gotta love Obamacare.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 12:59 PM

AIDS patients “in limbo,” too

Uh-oh. Children dying is one thing, they can always blame the Republicans for that, but now we’re talking a serious problem: Democrat voters are affected.

Fenris on February 10, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Memo to all illegal immigrants :

They want to pass a comprehensive law to solve all of your problems, too.

Be afraid, be very, very afraid.

(But still vote Democrat.)

MichaelGabriel on February 10, 2014 at 1:00 PM

I hear that sitting in a waiting room wondering if they will be seen let alone treated is becoming a popular activity.

Gatsu on February 10, 2014 at 12:55 PM

If you lose your job, you also have more time to fix dinner (a la Dem idiot Ellison).
The down side is you don’t have any money to buy groceries to fix that dinner, but hey, at least you’re not locked into a job….

And of course wihtout a job, you’ll have more time to plan your kid’s funeral – not that you can afford anything beyond a cardboard box…. Ain’t that great?

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2014 at 1:01 PM

I take no pleasure anymore seeing these kind of stories. I did at first. Sure it’s gratifying seeing Democratic lies being exposed. But not at the expense of truly desperate and deserving patients. Sad, truly sad.

TexasJack on February 10, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Martyrs to a greater cause. Obamacare needs to be an epic fail quickly if we don’t want the slow imposition of single payer (hint- we don’t want single payer).

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 1:01 PM

I *still* think though that its a doable expense…
 
libfreeordie on October 27, 2013 at 6:25 PM

rogerb on February 10, 2014 at 1:01 PM

I *still* think though that its a doable expense…

libfreeordie on October 27, 2013 at 6:25 PM
rogerb on February 10, 2014 at 1:01 PM

And how’s that web site working on Day xxx?

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Gaze upon what you have wrought, Dems. Pretend to have a little bit of sympathy.

Red Cloud on February 10, 2014 at 12:52 PM

If only more than two Senators had stood up in the Senate and tried to fight this with a demand for repeal. If only the House leadership had put action behind their stated opposition to Obamacare. If only.

Instead we got John McCain giving the rebuttal to Ted Cruz’s filibuster by saying that repeal was crazy talk. And, of course, the surrender weasels completely caving with stupid blathering about living to fight another day and using the Febrauary debt ceiling to fight Obamacare (looks like they are going to pass the clean bill the rat-eared wonder is demanding).

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 1:04 PM

The Fascist-Democrats’ War on Sick People.

rbj on February 10, 2014 at 1:05 PM

This is the evaluator…the end result…are subscribers getting care?

Looks like they aren’t.

Come in libbys and Obamabots and tell us how awesomely awesome this is!

22044 on February 10, 2014 at 1:06 PM

And they scoffed at Sarah Palin for her death panel remark.

crosshugger on February 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM

If you lose your job, you also have more time to fix dinner (a la Dem idiot Ellison).
The down side is you don’t have any money to buy groceries to fix that dinner, but hey, at least you’re not locked into a job….

And of course wihtout a job, you’ll have more time to plan your kid’s funeral – not that you can afford anything beyond a cardboard box…. Ain’t that great?

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Look at the bright side. You can assuage your hunger pangs by talking about the NFL’s first sodomite. And that cardboard box is likely to have been produced by one of our new citizens that just came “out of the shadows” under amnesty rewards.

Plus, not having a job will give you more time to stand in line for government-provided cheese.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 1:08 PM

And they scoffed at Sarah Palin for her death panel remark.

crosshugger on February 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM

But see, that’s the beauty of it – there is no death panel – they don’t need it.
You just don’t get treatments because nobody can find any valid paperwork on you…..
Seeeeee – no death panel…..

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2014 at 1:09 PM

And they scoffed at Sarah Palin for her death panel remark.

crosshugger on February 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Not for long. The truth on that one was established very quickly though the pro-Obamacare troops will still sneer as though death panels (government appointed bureaucrats approving courses of treatment) are not a real thing.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 1:11 PM

And they scoffed at Sarah Palin for her death panel remark.

crosshugger on February 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM

And if these kids start dying because of this conflagration, and Palin were to mount a run for the White House on an Anti-Obamacare platform, do you think that CBS would give her her due?

Nope.

turfmann on February 10, 2014 at 1:12 PM

One fascinating tidbit from the CBO report:

5 Devastating Obamacare Facts From CBO’s Latest Economic Report
http://thefederalist.com/2014/02/04/5-devastating-obamacare-facts-from-cbos-latest-economic-report/
2) In 2024, There Will Still Be 31 Million People In The U.S. Without Health Insurance
Before the Affordable Care Act was passed, its top proponents – including the president himself — made a big deal about how the law would solve the problem of the uninsured. And during a September 2009 speech on the topic before a joint session of Congress, President Obama lamented that “there are now more than 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage.”
Surely that number will be lower more than a decade after the law’s passage right?
Still, according to estimates by CBO and JCT, about 31 million nonelderly residents of the United States are likely to be without health insurance in 2024, roughly one out of every nine such residents.

Why did we do this in the first place if the issue was supposedly the uninsured?

DinaRehn on February 10, 2014 at 1:12 PM

If you lose your job, you also have more time to fix dinner (a la Dem idiot Ellison).
The down side is you don’t have any money to buy groceries to fix that dinner, but hey, at least you’re not locked into a job….

And of course wihtout a job, you’ll have more time to plan your kid’s funeral – not that you can afford anything beyond a cardboard box…. Ain’t that great?

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Pbbbt. Who says we need to pay for groceries?

That’s what SNAP is for.

Soda and Chips are a civil right or something.

Gatsu on February 10, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Why did we do this in the first place if the issue was supposedly the uninsured?

DinaRehn on February 10, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Because the goal was wealth redistribution not insuring the uninsured.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 1:13 PM

But women get free birth control, so it all balances out.

malclave on February 10, 2014 at 1:15 PM

CBS News actually reported the truth? Somebody is going to get fired.

Cicero43 on February 10, 2014 at 1:15 PM

The Fascist-Democrats’ War on Sick People.

If only we had, oh, an OPPOSITION PARTY that could actually ram this theme down the Democrats collective throats.

If only…

Cicero43 on February 10, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Pbbbt. Who says we need to pay for groceries?
That’s what SNAP is for.
Soda and Chips are a civil right or something.

Gatsu on February 10, 2014 at 1:12 PM

That’s true.
Who needs a job and an earned paycheck – I got me a bamaEBT card baby!!!

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2014 at 1:17 PM

The good news: ObamaCare treats all pre-existing conditions!

The Bad news: It treats them with aspirin.

KenInIL on February 10, 2014 at 1:18 PM

Wow. The ads this year are going to be brutal. Dems pass a hated law that is killing kids.

Ta111 on February 10, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Gosh this is swell, no coverage and it costs more. He said that would happen, right?

Cindy Munford on February 10, 2014 at 1:21 PM

I’ve got to say, CBS (for whatever motive) has been more critical of Obamacare than its sister MSM outlets

Happy Nomad

CBS has been on top and pretty even-handed on any number of things, first and foremost with Benghazi. Their Sharyl Attkisson is amazing, fearless and pretty much has license to rip with whatever she finds.

The Evening News with Scott Pelley also LEADS with HARD NEWS. Astonishing.

I mean, they can still piss you off, but we watch and kudos to them.

tree hugging sister on February 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM

And in 10 years – we still have 30,000,000 uninsured.

I often wonder if it’s too late for anyone on the right, even someone with doo-dads of Platinum Steel, to straighten this up.

Michh on February 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Quick, GOP! Talk about something else, immigration for instance.

Occams Stubble on February 10, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Already been taken care of, bigots.

Dog Eater used his magic pen and signed an executive order forbidding any American from dying until BarkyCare is fully implemented.

Happy now, you ignorant racists?

Bishop on February 10, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Dog Eater used his magic pen and signed an executive order forbidding any American from dying until BarkyCare is fully implemented.

Happy now, you ignorant racists?

Bishop on February 10, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Dang, why didn’t we think of that.
Just outlaw cancer with an EO – it works for all the other dangerous things that kill people.

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Wow. The ads this year are going to be brutal. Dems pass a hated law that is killing kids.

Ta111 on February 10, 2014 at 1:19 PM

They need to make ads like Stephanie Cutter (falsely) made against Mitt Romney. Show grieving parents whose kids were killed by Obamacare.

…… Our Obamacare plan wouldn’t cover the cost of that procedure so we had to go with another treatment…..

…… So we got back from the funeral only to find a letter denying our claim as a non-covered item. I don’t know where we’re going to find the $70,000 we are supposed to pay…….

…… Mr. President, a six-year-old shouldn’t have to die for universal coverage for contraception…..

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 1:31 PM

I would like run over to HuffPo to post links to these stories in hopes of enlightening those mushrooms over there, but they banned me last night, for no reason.

Meanwhile, I guess someday I’ll find out if my oncology center is covered under ACA, and apparently the only way to really find out is to sign up for it and then try to use it.

juliesa on February 10, 2014 at 1:32 PM

MeanWhile,……………………………:

Obama health care law
1h
Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy says state has enrolled 121,983 in health exchange – @JeffSaperstone
===========================

Jeff Saperstone ‏@JeffSaperstone 2h

MORE: Of the 121,983 new enrollees, 71,318 signed up for Medicaid and 50,665 signed up for private insurance. #ACA #Obamacare
========================================================

https://twitter.com/JeffSaperstone

canopfor on February 10, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Enjoy your messiah’s rule, morons…

PatriotRider on February 10, 2014 at 1:37 PM

I hope that everyone who voted to re elect this failure gets hosed in every way. They own it and deserve what they get. Too bad the rest of us with common sense and intelligence have to suffer too. Damn those idiots.

fishstick on February 10, 2014 at 1:38 PM

All this so Sandra Fluke can screw with free government contraception…

PatriotRider on February 10, 2014 at 1:39 PM

We go back to Pelosium’s Superior Super Smart Power InFamous Quote:

The Context Behind Nancy Pelosi’s Famous ‘We Have to Pass the Bill’ Quote
by Tommy Christopher | 11:35 am, November 17th, 2013
****************************************************

On NBC News’ Meet the Press Sunday morning, host David Gregory resurrected a favorite right-wing attack on the Affordable Care Act, asking House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) to defend her 2010 comment that

“we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.”

Gregory’s treatment of the quote was fairer than most, and Leader Pelosi handled the question capably, but it’s worth looking back to see how this became such a popular attack on Obamacare.

That quote, often truncated to “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,” or even just paraphrased to hew to the right’s narrative of the quote, has been perverted to mean that the Affordable Care Act was just too many pages, and Democrats just wanted it passed without anyone reading it, and rammed it down America’s throat. While Gregory at least read the whole quote, his interpretation was similar to the narrative that developed over time, that “there was such a rush to get this done—no Republicans voting for it—and now there are unintended effects of this that were foreseen at the time, that you couldn’t know the impact of, and that now this is coming home to roost?”
(More………………………)
===================================

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/the-context-behind-nancy-pelosis-famous-we-have-to-pass-the-bill-quote/

canopfor on February 10, 2014 at 1:40 PM

and then hotair will run out of material to bash the President on…that’s what you’re really afraid of, right?

nonpartisan on November 19, 2013 at 4:47 PM

But these Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Chris of Rights on February 10, 2014 at 1:42 PM

All this so Sandra Fluke can screw with free government contraception…

PatriotRider on February 10, 2014 at 1:39 PM

And if she gets elected to a public office, she’ll get a paycheck from our tax money for doing it as well….

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Sandra Fluke….are you happy now.

cthemfly on February 10, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Chris of Rights on February 10, 2014 at 1:42 PM

The gifts that just keep on giving….

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2014 at 1:44 PM

For those that didn’t watch the video, the child’s mother blames the insurance company. No mention of the federal government here.

Of course, for whom did the state of Washington’s electorate vote for in 2008 and 2012?

And for the quoted Dr. …. the IRS is calling in 3 – 2 – 1 ….

Carnac on February 10, 2014 at 1:48 PM

MORE: Of the 121,983 new enrollees, 71,318 signed up for Medicaid and 50,665 signed up for private insurance.

canopfor on February 10, 2014 at 1:35 PM

So essentially 59% parasites to 41% payers. Yeah that math is going to work out well.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 1:49 PM

CBS?
Give them credit for this but what about the others?
News items don’t get noticed by the LIVeral’s until they see/hear it/read it on EVERY network on EVERY blogsite on EVERY radio station.
And there is still PLENTY of time to blame BUSH between now and November.
Didn’t read the details but some snippet story said the populus STILL blames Bush for the econonmy. NINE YEARS after the Gimmedats took over the Senate and the House. Astounding. Just astounding.

Missilengr on February 10, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Well, CBS, you helped elect this moron. Twice. Enjoy your victory.

Laura Castellano on February 10, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Okay, so you can’t get your cancer treatment, but look! Free contraceptives!!!

PackerBronco on February 10, 2014 at 1:59 PM

@Carnac

Exactly what I am afraid of myself. The LIVs will not take the time to find the real culprit. They’ll blame the insurance companies, which they should. However the Obama Admn. will receive almost none. Obama gets away again.

TexasJack on February 10, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Why did we do this in the first place if the issue was supposedly the uninsured?

DinaRehn on February 10, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Because the goal was wealth redistribution not insuring the uninsured.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Yes, those on the national socialist left told us as much:

Don’t Dare Call the Health Law ‘Redistribution’
Hiding in plain sight behind that pledge — visible to health policy experts but not the general public — was the redistribution required to extend health coverage to those who had been either locked out or priced out of the market.

Now some of that redistribution has come clearly into view.

“The A.C.A. is very much about redistribution, whether or not its advocates acknowledge that this is the case,” wrote Reihan Salam on the website of the conservative National Review.

Still, the word is hardly a favorite of the president these days. The last time Mr. Obama used it in public, according to Federal News Service transcripts, was 18 months ago during his re-election campaign in Elyria, Ohio.

“Understand this is not a redistribution argument,” the president told his audience then.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/24/us/dont-dare-call-the-health-law-redistribution.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=1&

Just don’t dare call them socialists, until they decide to push it full bore.

DinaRehn on February 10, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Just don’t dare call them socialists, until they decide to push it full bore.

DinaRehn on February 10, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Still, the word is hardly a favorite of the president these days. The last time Mr. Obama used it in public, according to Federal News Service transcripts, was 18 months ago during his re-election campaign in Elyria, Ohio.

“Understand this is not a redistribution argument,” the president told his audience then.

Well 18 months ago he was also saying:

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
You’ll be spending $2500 less on health insurance.
If you like your hospital you can keep your hospital.
If you like your meds, you can keep your meds.

So, given the number of new enrollees to Medicaid vs. the number of people who are paying their way- I think it only fair we re-examine if this is wealth redistribution or not. ;0

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 2:06 PM

In the middle of a doctor shortage, exclude a large number of doctors from being able to treat a large number of patients. Result: long wait lines, more-severe illnesses because of lack of timely treatment, more pain and suffering, and early deaths. The faster people die, the less of a financial drain they will be on the rest of the population.

That’s one way to reduce health care costs.

It’s also one of the worst ways to reduce health care costs.

HakerA on February 10, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Too bad nobody foresaw this fiasco.

Okay, maybe some people did, but they presented their information on Fox News and that means their motives were evil. EVIL!! Hahahahahaha.

As a result Obama and the Democrats were tricked into reacting and passing Obamacare without reading the law or analyzing the consequences. Poor dears.

s1im on February 10, 2014 at 2:09 PM

With any luck, hopefully most of those negatively impacted are Obama drones. Not that it will stop them from blaming Republicans, though.

He Who Some Call A Traitor on February 10, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Yes, and he used those lines at least 36 times:

36 Times Obama Said You Can Keep Your Health Plan
Obama lied, your health plan died

Obama has publicly promised at least 36 times since 2008 that his health care reform plan, known as Obamacare, would not cause anyone who liked their present health insurance to lose it.

Other outlets like New York Magazine, which was a source for some of the clips in this video, had 23 instances of Obama making the promise, sometimes punctuating the remarks with an emphatic “Period.” He pledged it in weekly video addresses, campaign rallies, and town hall meetings.
36 Times Obama Said You Could Keep Your Health Care Plan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qpa-5JdCnmo

DinaRehn on February 10, 2014 at 2:17 PM

There’s something missing from this thread. Can’t quite put my finger on it…….OH! There are no trolls posting!

Pale Rider on February 10, 2014 at 2:18 PM

If it was only a category in the Guiness Book of World Records-

How many opportunities for schadenfreude are there in Obamacare?

Seems like we’re getting close to 2,700.

Not talking about the kids or the AIDS patients. Those situations are tragic.

But to get a broader network they will have to drive up the premiums making the $2,500 reduction in HC spending per family even more of a joke and lie.

theo22 on February 10, 2014 at 2:23 PM

It’s about 2:30 PM EST. Most haven’t gotten off from school yet.

He Who Some Call A Traitor on February 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM

With all this talk about health coverage, premiums and deductibles, people always seem to forget about the healthcare professionals. These are people who spend their time and resources to become medical professionals, but are treated like they are some sort of commodity to be used and always overlooked. This Obummercare law will deter many people from going into the medical field and those that are already in the medical field, may want out and/or retire. This will leave a shortage in doctors, nurses, etc. Why would someone want to spend all that time and money studying a profession with decreasing compensations and salaries? This question is rarely asked and answered by the Obummercare supporters.

One_If_By_Land on February 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM

There’s something missing from this thread. Can’t quite put my finger on it…….OH! There are no trolls posting!

Pale Rider on February 10, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Yeah, these 0-care threads tend to be kind of boring.

CurtZHP on February 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM

canopfor on February 10, 2014 at 1:35 PM

So essentially 59% parasites to 41% payers. Yeah that math is going to work out well.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Happy Nomad:Lol,..and the 99%!:)

canopfor on February 10, 2014 at 2:27 PM

There’s something missing from this thread. Can’t quite put my finger on it…….OH! There are no trolls posting!

Pale Rider on February 10, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Just wait, they will come in and call everyone racist.

The Notorious G.O.P on February 10, 2014 at 2:29 PM

There’s something missing from this thread. Can’t quite put my finger on it…….OH! There are no trolls posting!

Pale Rider on February 10, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Yeah, these 0-care threads tend to be kind of boring.

CurtZHP on February 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM

The trolls tend to avoid them – the same way Dems up for re-election are avoiding 0barky….

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Gregory – another flake heard from. “We don’t understand!”

That’s because you’re STUPID!

GarandFan on February 10, 2014 at 2:29 PM

I think that it’s morally imperative that the Republicans do try to address the problems that poorer people have with medical care.

But now? No. Right now, the agenda should be to hammer, hammer, and hammer some more. Propose nothing that can be attacked (which is pretty much everything, unfortunately). Go strictly and solely negative on everything that is unpopular with the general public, including immigration reform.

If the Democrats had been honest about enforcement and amnesty, if they had been honest about health care reform, we could have (and should have) worked with them. Now? Sweep them away, crush them, and then work to address those issues honestly.

philosoph0123 on February 10, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Invariably it turns out the beneficiaries are parasites who are sucking up thousands of dollars to pay for their healthcare. And they all think it is “free” money.

It is free money. Your money. Which is free of charge, to those consuming it.
Well done, Comrade Kulak WageEarner. All of those in the not-enthusiastic-about-working world thank you for your efforts. Now, go work some more.

Remind me: Why are we not surrounding public building in DC with pitchforks and torches?
Oh, wait, I forgot: Because HopenChange, and the Most Transparent Dictatorship Evah.

orangemtl on February 10, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Own it progtards. That’s all you.

Murphy9 on February 10, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Washington state voted for Obozo in 08 and again in 12. Embrace the suck of your socialist mayoral paradise.

neyney on February 10, 2014 at 3:16 PM

We’ve been ‘sandrafluked’.

cthemfly on February 10, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Wino – you got it wrong,

Welcome to government health care, where the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

It should e
— the needs of a few politicians and their rich friends outweigh the needs of everybody else in the coutnry

bartbeast on February 10, 2014 at 3:30 PM

CBS News? Scott Pelley must be on vacation.

Rasputin1919 on February 10, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Reap the whirlwind, libtards. You keep looking for that free lunch….

Cottonpony on February 11, 2014 at 12:33 PM