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posted at 8:01 pm on February 9, 2014 by Allahpundit

Investigations into whether New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie had a role in causing traffic jams as political retribution could make advancing his agenda a challenge.

The Republican governor is finding some Democratic legislators are more likely to push back against his proposals and appointees because they see him as weakened by the scandal.

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The uproar over the memo illustrates Christie’s struggles over the past month to regain his political footing amid a swirl of scandal. Until so-called “Bridgegate” erupted a month ago, he enjoyed a reputation as a politician firmly in control – of his well-honed public image, his second-term agenda in Trenton and the roadmap to the White House he intended to follow over the next three years.

The aura of authority surrounding Christie has given way to a feeling among his aides and allies that they are operating in new and unsettling territory, reacting to new twists in the scandal instead of driving events themselves…

“Assuming he is vindicated here, as I believe he will be, he could emerge from this stronger,” said GOP strategist Alex Castellanos. “If Christie’s political enemies miss, they will have inoculated him against these kinds of charges.”

But Castellanos added, “What he can’t endure is eight or 10 or 12 months of more shoes dropping, legal action, etc. If the faucet is still dripping in 2015, the party will move on.”

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During the fall campaign, the liberal TV hero Rachel Maddow ran a stinging segment ridiculing The Star-Ledger’s endorsement of Gov. Chris Christie. How could we endorse him, she asked, when we criticized him so harshly in the same piece? Had we lost our minds?…

Yes, we knew Christie was a bully. But we didn’t know his crew was crazy enough to put people’s lives at risk in Fort Lee as a means to pressure the mayor. We didn’t know he would use Hurricane Sandy aid as a political slush fund. And we certainly didn’t know that Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer was sitting on a credible charge of extortion by Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno…

But be careful. Because if you turn your focus to the presidential race in 2016, you might wind up facing the same dilemma we did in the fall…

If one of the tea party favorites gets the Republican nomination, then the country is at risk. Because as we have just seen, one scandal can flip the board in politics. What if Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, and some dark secret emerges about her tenure as secretary of state? How does President Rand Paul sound to you?

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The fallout from the George Washington Bridge traffic debacle has opened the door for what might be the largest serious Republican presidential field in two decades. And that door is wide, wide open.

Politico Magazine asked some of the smartest and most experienced Republican operatives, pundits and even a former presidential candidate to weigh in on the suddenly unsettled field of 2016 GOP presidential aspirants. Three months ago, this conversation would have sounded like the Republican version of the Hillary chatter we’re hearing on the left today. Most of us would simply have cast Chris Christie as the inevitable nominee-in-waiting. No one can make that argument now, and the continued sell-off of Christie’s political stock has unlocked his formerly rock-solid donor base. It clearly tempts significant players to “buy the lottery ticket,” as Grover Norquist puts it.

If you ask me, Christie is almost dead but too stubborn to lie down.

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The middle ground possibility – that Christie escapes being tied to the scandal personally, but it hamstrings his second term and gets painted as some sort of pattern – is perhaps the worst possibility for people considering backing Christie nationally, as it leaves him wounded but not fatally so.

The scandal is damaging to Christie in a couple of ways. The innocent explanation, that this was an unusual event resulting from a handful of ‘bad apples,’ still calls into question his management of personnel, a problem for a candidate running mainly on being an honest, competent executive who gets stuff done. And aside from its pure pettiness and how unnecessary the whole thing was (Buono was even more doomed than George McGovern in 1972), the use of government power to punish political enemies is especially problematic in a Republican primary because it’s precisely how Obama and the Clintons operate and have for years. And with the general electorate as well: Democrats are supposed to stand for giving particular people and groups stuff they want, so voters tend to forgive them – up to a point – when they hand out goodies to friends and punish foes. Whereas the point of electing Republicans is to stand up for the general interest – such as the interest in limiting runaway government spending and regulation – so voters tend to be harsher towards Republicans who act as if they were hired to give particular people and groups stuff they want.

But even if the Bridge flap proves a minor bump in the road for Christie’s national ambitions, it nonetheless reminds us that Christie is not only not the inevitable 2016 Republican nominee, he might not even make it as far as the Iowa Caucuses. And that perception itself can become self-fulfilling: it emboldens other candidates to jump in the race, as they might not if Christie looked like a juggernaut.

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If Christie’s appointee David Wildstein is telling the truth when he claims evidence exists that proves the governor knew about the lane closures on the George Washington Bridge, and if that evidence is made public, then all the “Christie in 2016” talk is moot, because the governor will have great difficulty avoiding impeachment by the Democrat-controlled New Jersey legislature. If Wildstein is lying, Christie still has the headache of explaining why more than one of his trusted associates acted so vindictively and foolishly, and then tried to blame him.

Christie’s difficulties have caused some high-level Republican donors, bundlers, and party officials, as well as grassroots activists, to look around for a second option for 2016. No one is writing Christie off yet, but these people feel that the high stakes of the next presidential election require a backup plan. The name that is currently highest atop their list is that of Jeb Bush, former two-term governor of Florida and son and brother of presidents…

“Bush’s speeches are getting better, tighter, and more campaigny, from what I’ve noticed,” a senior Florida republican strategist says. “I still think Jeb is only a three-in-ten shot to go, but if you’re in his shoes, and Chris Christie has taken a huge hit in stock value — wouldn’t you wait and see? If Christie survives and runs, it’s a harder proposition by far, obviously.”

***

As Chris Christie’s star falls, the party is giving a second look to another brash blue-state governor who stared down unions at home: Scott Walker.

Republican strategists say no one is in a better position to get a boost from the Christie Bridgegate scandal than Walker, who stepped into the national spotlight in 2011 when he won a union-fueled recall election in Wisconsin…

“Many are looking at Walker because he has won in a blue state not through accommodation but by promoting and enacting policies consistent with conservative principles,” said Kevin Madden, a former aide to Mitt Romney during his 2012 presidential bid.

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In the strongest indication that Christie has now won friends among former enemies, the Conservative Political Action Conference that previously snubbed Christie for being too liberal has invited him to speak at this year’s gathering…

While Christie is losing support among independents who previously supported him, he’s shoring up the very voters who might have opposed him in the primary — and he didn’t even have to change his politics to do so.

And if the over-hyped allegations prove fruitless over time, who’s to say he won’t be able to win those independents right back?

The left needs to slow its roll. Lest they want to end up like the boy who cried wolf — discredited and devoured by the zealousness of their own hype — Chris Christie’s opponents should sit back, relax and let this investigation play out.

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thatsafactjack on February 10, 2014 at 1:08 AM

I’m a stealin’ your comments on posting on a thread I have on my fb page. Can’t come CLOSE to your preciseness!

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:08 AM

Heh…thanks

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:14 AM

Cut welfare to the bone, make it temporary as it should be, and these people will have no choice but to work.

thatsafactjack on February 10, 2014 at 1:10 AM

Follow the Swiss – 9 months of food, housing, schooling, for the legal immigrants. After that not one rappen.

Schadenfreude on February 10, 2014 at 1:14 AM

‘night all, sleep well.

bluefox on February 10, 2014 at 1:14 AM

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM

Thank you very much, lovingmyUSA. :) I’m honored, indeed.

There is a site, a legitimate site, FAIR ( Federation of Americans for Immigration Reform) that has all of the facts and figures on immigration and the fight against amnesty. They’ve been around for over twenty years working in DC and have led the fight. Just look around the site under pending legislation, etc. and you’ll find the interactive maps and facts and figures. :)

thatsafactjack on February 10, 2014 at 1:14 AM

Cut welfare to the bone, make it temporary as it should be, and these people will have no choice but to work.

thatsafactjack on February 10, 2014 at 1:10 AM

then we bus the intercity kids to Kansas??
punks from the Hood are not leaving the city to pick fruit..
its a nice thought…but do you really think so?

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:15 AM

What happened to Carbon_Footprint? He became The New, something or other and then disappeared.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:16 AM

Follow the Swiss – 9 months of food, housing, schooling, for the legal immigrants. After that not one rappen.

Schadenfreude on February 10, 2014 at 1:14 AM

can you pass that in both the house and senate??

I like it…but can you get the votes?

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:16 AM

Nite nite

Schadenfreude on February 10, 2014 at 1:17 AM

OregonPolitician on February 10, 2014 at 1:09 AM

Excellent! I will be getting in touch with you on that!

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:17 AM

bluefox on February 10, 2014 at 1:14 AM

Niters and sleep well, Bluefox!

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:17 AM

I knuw you. You’re that chick with tissue and a gun in her bra.

wolly4321 on February 9, 2014 at 11:47 PM

The shingles are attacking my spine-so right now I don’t even want to wear a bra. Came off as soon as I walked in the door. now hittin’ the meds

annoyinglittletwerp on February 9, 2014 at 11:52 PM

Seriously annoyinngtwit, you have to post about your shingles and the fact you took off your bra? Can we stop hearing about your personal bodily functions and maybe, just maybe hear something pertinent to the QOtD? Just once?

onesheep on February 10, 2014 at 1:17 AM

oh and then who will pick your veggies from he san Joaquin valley…
some American punk with his cell phone in one had
and holding up his pants with the other…??

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 12:54 AM

So to you it all boils down to your having cheap serf labor and hating American teenagers. I think even the illegal aliens would find you most unpleasant.

VorDaj on February 10, 2014 at 1:18 AM

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:15 AM

We don’t have to bus anyone anywhere, g2m. People go where the work is when they need it and Kansas has plenty of colleges and universities. If we stopped the ‘free money’ fest that has driven the cost of tuition up 400% over the past few years across this nation, students would have to work to pay their way through college and when they graduated they wouldn’t owe their lives to the federal government for the privilege.

They’d also be interested in a degree in the sciences or some other core field, instead of boutique studies in ‘Women’s studies’, etc. and actually have a degree with which they could find a job.

thatsafactjack on February 10, 2014 at 1:18 AM

Christie was never going to be the nominee, and would only be the frontrunner until perhaps the Ames Straw Poll at the latest.
He might have been the leading fundraiser by then, but he lacks appeal to the base. Too much of a willing squish on gun control and gay marriage, from the region that inspires suspicion in Republicans, but the killer was his solicitous treatment of Obama over Sandy relief – especially since IN FACT the amount of relief pre-positioned and delivered early by FEMA was LESS than in Katrina.
Independents might not have cared about that last part. Republicans do.
But it is just as well to get him out of the way early. Too bad it is on some trumped-up scandal (compare it to Benghazi or Fast & Furious or IRS, a little bridge traffic is nothing, a fart in a hurricane). But it’s good to get him out of the way – it takes a while to run around him.
Adjoran on February 10, 2014 at 12:51 AM

Well said. No one in flyover country is considering Christie as a POTUS contender. His lip-lock with Obama right before the 2012 election doomed his chances even if he had any.

karenhasfreedom on February 10, 2014 at 1:19 AM

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:17 AM

Here’s that thing you wanted.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:19 AM

It’s time to do away with unions.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM

here too…im with ya…and my great grandfather was employed
at Ford when they shot the men off the fences .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Hunger_March

again…can you pass this…do you have the votes??..
a plan on how to get said votes??

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:20 AM

It’s time to do away with unions.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM

+ 100..Hear!..Hear!..:)

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:21 AM

So to you it all boils down to your having cheap serf labor and hating American teenagers. I think even the illegal aliens would find you most unpleasant.

VorDaj on February 10, 2014 at 1:18 AM

Hardly, but getting people off the welfare rolls AND instilling a decent work ethic in our youth would go far to benefiting our society as a whole. Besides, in rural farming communities, the kids work out in the fields with their parents. Why should the *ahem!* disadvantaged youth not find that there is a more beneficial way to spend their summers than standing on some street corner and getting in trouble?

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:24 AM

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:20 AM

WI and MI both showed the way on that. It would have to be done at the state level.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:25 AM

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:17 AM

Here’s that thing you wanted.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:19 AM

Thank you SOO much! I think that fight between Atheling and I is in the Hot Air hall of fame…and all you MEN just stood back and waited as the mud wrestling reached epic proportions…heh

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:26 AM

Senator Jeff Sessions has repeatedly made the case for the GOP taking the lead on supporting American working people and standing for the rule of law on immigration.

It would be a winning strategy for the GOP since Latino families are just as interested in being able to get a decent job, decent healthcare, a good education for their children, and a college degree that is worth the paper upon which it’s written.

In Texas, which has the second largest Hispanic population in the US, there has been a 4% rise since the last election in Hispanic voters who favor the GOP. If Texas, which is a very red state, can convince Hispanic voters that conservative principles work economically and protect citizens and families, it can be done across the nation… without granting amnesty and degrading the rule of law. Texas Hispanics Poll higher Republican approval than rest of nation

thatsafactjack on February 10, 2014 at 1:26 AM

thatsafactjack on February 10, 2014 at 1:18 AM

colleges and that cost is another federal scam…
they give anyone loans…pass them along…
and retire on the interest…
many kids ive met can barely tie their own shoes..
we designers have a saying about new engineers…
‘tell him to bring his degree so he can wipe his a**
when we light this rocket up’
I saw this in cali a lot..

but your never going to get kids from Chicago
to move to a hut in Kansas or Iowa…
they couldn’t get cell coverage…
what no starbucks in this field??…
i’ll pick he im done texting my BFF…
never gonna happen…
yes J we would….but were mde differerntly…thank God..!!

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:27 AM

Hardly, but getting people off the welfare rolls AND instilling a decent work ethic in our youth would go far to benefiting our society as a whole. Besides, in rural farming communities, the kids work out in the fields with their parents. Why should the *ahem!* disadvantaged youth not find that there is a more beneficial way to spend their summers than standing on some street corner and getting in trouble?

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:24 AM

You don’t have to convince me. It’s the guy who thinks he’s an astronaut who wants cheap serf labor from south of the border.

VorDaj on February 10, 2014 at 1:27 AM

Thank you SOO much! I think that fight between Atheling and I is in the Hot Air hall of fame…and all you MEN just stood back and waited as the mud wrestling reached epic proportions…heh

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:26 AM

Yuh huh. You, Minnow girl and Jenfidel. Dire Straits was there too.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:28 AM

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:19 AM

Wait til Dire sees that….

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:29 AM

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:26 AM

That was a classic thread!!..All of us men just watched in awe..Definitely HOF..:)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:31 AM

thatsafactjack on February 10, 2014 at 1:26 AM

I’ve found that the Hispanics I used to work with were more against illegal immigration/amnesty than anything. It cheapened what they or their parents went through and the value of American citizenship.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:25 AM

Michigan got rid of no unions that I am aware of..

look at Detroit…half the people left…
Beirut is in better shape..
yet they are still screaming for more federal handouts…
they have no intention of getting a real job…
and they will never move to a farm to hoe or pick.

even in the shambles it is…you cant get the votes

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:32 AM

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Yeah, but only you and Joe said anything. I stayed the fvck away from it.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:32 AM

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:28 AM

Bishop got in on the front end..It was hilarious..:)

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:33 AM

thatsafactjack on February 10, 2014 at 1:26 AM

THIS…

our plan has to at least look at everything…hard..
most Mexicans I know in LA don’t want the illegals here..
they understand its their jobs that they will be loosing..

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Yeah, but only you and Joe said anything. I stayed the fvck away from it.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:32 AM

Liam and Holger were funny..:)

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:34 AM

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:27 AM

During the Depression, the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) had projects where people from all over the country migrated to the work sites. The Hoover Dam was one such project, but there were other, smaller projects that attracted people that wanted to earn their way.

I’m thinking that the individual states, rather than the Central Government, would be better suited to do some kind of program like this by using funds saved from not having these people collecting welfare.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:34 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:31 AM

great minds…if I may be so bold..

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:35 AM

Bishop got in on the front end..It was hilarious..:)

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:33 AM

It was long before Bishop! got popular.

*pokes head back in*

Wow, last night was brutal in here.

MeatHeadinCA on March 23, 2010 at 8:46 AM

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:35 AM

. I stayed the fvck away from it.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:32 AM

LoLz..Noboby got in the way of that fight..:)

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:35 AM

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:35 AM

I miss MeatHeadinCA..Very good poster..Enjoyed his posts..:)

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:38 AM

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Evening!

That was a classic thread!!..All of us men just watched in awe..Definitely HOF..:)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Yeah, but only you and Joe said anything. I stayed the fvck away from it.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:32 AM

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:28 AM

Bishop got in on the front end..It was hilarious..:)

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Yeah, Lance, but I heard the heavy breathing…heh

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:38 AM

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:38 AM

You and Minnow girl were real dicks to atheling.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:40 AM

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:32 AM

Granted, MI didn’t have the annual certification requirement that WI did, but one would think that, with the reduction of dues collecting, the unions would eventually fold.

Then again, I think that all of those collective bargaining “rights” are a bunch of el toro poo-poo.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:41 AM

LoLz..Noboby got in the way of that fight..:)

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:35 AM

Oh but I was much older than, I’m younger than that now

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:41 AM

thatsafactjack on February 10, 2014 at 1:36 AM

Niters and sleep well, Jackie!

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:42 AM

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:38 AM

Didn’t post. I’ll try again:

You and that sweet Minnow girl were total buttholes to atheling.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:43 AM

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:35 AM

By all means, be bold, G2M!

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:43 AM

I think we might get enough votes to rid us of anchor babies…maybe
and I think we could HAMMER the employers angle…
we must have the boarder closed…..
id like to also see voter ID…so we know that ppl here illegally don’t vote..
closing food stamps for illegals might be a tuff one to reach for
(Cons always want to starve the children n all)
we need to drive this list of ‘things we can get votes for’
things we can pass..
not by a simple wish ‘I want em gone’

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:43 AM

Night Jackie, make sure you rest that brain of yours!

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:44 AM

please sleep well ms J….be safe

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:44 AM

Hope Ratso heals soon.

SparkPlug on February 9, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Heals from what?

OmahaConservative on February 9, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Identity theft… so to speak.

viking01 on February 10, 2014 at 1:45 AM

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:43 AM

Oh you mean, when the famous “cupid stunt” label was invented?

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:47 AM

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:43 AM

It would take an awful lot of chipping away at the built-in voting block the socialist Dems (can I say that here?) created to stay in power, but sooner or later something(s) will have to give. There’s NO way our country can continue with this gravy train started by FDR, sent downhill by LBJ, with brake removal by BHO.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:48 AM

Oh you mean, when the famous “cupid stunt” label was invented?

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:47 AM

Heh. Yeah. The one you stole from atheling. But on the plus side, AnninaCAn was still alive than. ‘Member her? ‘Member how much fun she was? :D

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:48 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:34 AM

California spends Billions on illegals healthcare each year..
they desperately need a huge water project…
(I recommend a massive declination project
run thru a natural several hundred mile rockbed filter the length of the state)

how do you convince the voters that they could pay for one
if they eliminated the other??

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:50 AM

viking01 on February 10, 2014 at 1:45 AM

[NOW I need the Windex...I already have the sham-wow, thank you very much...]

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:50 AM

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:41 AM

I hear you..:):)

PS..Nice tune..:)

Dire Straits on February 10, 2014 at 1:53 AM

[NOW I need the Windex...I already have the sham-wow, thank you very much...]

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:50 AM

Sorry ’bout that!

I had to get in at least one more punch line for before heading off for sleep though probably missed OC by a couple hours now.

viking01 on February 10, 2014 at 1:54 AM

AnninaCAn was still alive than. ‘Member her? ‘Member how much fun she was? :D

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:48 AM

Yeah, why do you think I mentioned the recipes and what was for dinner, on the QOTD…you mentioned meatloaf…

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:55 AM

Yeah, why do you think I mentioned the recipes and what was for dinner, on the QOTD…you mentioned meatloaf…

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:55 AM

No, that’s libdie that makes a mean meatloaf.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:56 AM

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:48 AM

FInd one of her famous quotes…heh

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:56 AM

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:50 AM

For one, NO bailout when CA goes belly-up. That should force saner heads to prevail and start to reduce all of the self-inflicted damage the Dems have done to that state.

Interesting idea to use the natural aquifer(s) to desalinate the water, but I would be concerned about the natural fault lines and how any changes would aid/abet slippage.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:56 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:48 AM

agreed….no doubt…

I respect mr schad a lot…if he were King Schadthe first..
I would have no problem with his platform…
but…he will never be King of the USA…so that’s out..
so maybe CIC Schad…even if we could get him elected to the WH..
im no sure he would have the power to do as he wishes…
(I know I know BHO does….that doesn’t make it right or legal)
so I would think President Schad is also out…
and that leaves us with something between here and there..
how much can we get…how many votes do we have…how many votes do we need…
as you correctly pointed out.. we cant continue this madness..

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:57 AM

FInd one of her famous quotes…heh

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 1:56 AM

Um, no. But reading on, atheling was kinda a butthole to Bishop.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:57 AM

Antwerp woulda spazzed out had she been there.

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canopfor on February 10, 2014 at 1:59 AM

Once upon a time in America

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 2:00 AM

Um, no. But reading on, atheling was kinda a butthole to Bishop.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 1:57 AM

Well, duh…

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 2:01 AM

Well, duh…

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 2:01 AM

I said I was leaving but really I stayed and watched.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 2:02 AM

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 1:57 AM

I think any person with *ahem!* extremist leanings would have to temper them a bit by picking their battles, depending on the make-up of Congress and/or SCOTUS. IF we had a more constitutionally-minded, rather than a left-leaning agenda-minded SCOTUS, there is much damage that could be reversed.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 2:04 AM

In fact, I remember I went out and got a six pack and came back to watch.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 2:06 AM

canopfor on February 10, 2014 at 1:59 AM

Well, that piqued my curiosity…

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 2:06 AM

McCain
Romny
Christie

2 down one to go.

Stupid Party wants to continue being stupid and go for 3/3. I don’t blame Christie. I blame the brain dead primary voters who enable trash like him.

FrankT on February 10, 2014 at 2:08 AM

Well, I’m out for the night, y’all. Niters and sleep well!

Eagles – Journey of the Sorcerer

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 2:08 AM

brian wilson – still i dream of it (’76 home demo)

Saddest song

kcewa on February 10, 2014 at 2:09 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on February 10, 2014 at 1:56 AM

California already has a aqueduct system running the length of the state…
you could run pumps in up north out of the ocean..
let it roll downhill thru limestone/gravel maybe 200 miles
north of Sac…then down the state paralleling existing lines..

and as far as bailing them out…500Bilion dollars in
unfunded pension liabilities..
either the feds cover some/any/all
or the riots will begin next time the checks bounce..
its far too late to put that back in the bottle…

yes I hate it.. here again what’s the plan??
I don’t know how Californians can ask a kid in Iowa
to work under 28 hours a week to be under BHOcare…
but some of those 28 you will work for free to help pay your share
of californias debt….its insanity to be sure..
complete taxation without representation…..maddness

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 2:10 AM

sleep well NatB…thanks for your thoughts..be safe

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 2:11 AM

Hello? Anyone here? I’ve come to tiddy up and turn out the lights.
Anyon…..Oh Geezus!!!!! That’s one heck of a snot (fish)!
Dang someone took the last Sham-Wow.
How’d those Cheetos get up there?
(Trips, stumbles while looking up)
What’s this?!!!!
Save me lawd… a dead mouse!
They don’t pay me enough. Not touching it.

(Puts headphones on, walks towards door, turns off light…click)

31giddyup on February 10, 2014 at 2:11 AM

I

said I was leaving but really I stayed and watched.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 2:02 AM

In fact, I remember I went out and got a six pack and came back to watch.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 2:06 AM

I know, I heard you popping the tops…

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 2:14 AM

31giddyup on February 10, 2014 at 2:11 AM

She was gonna be my wife and I was gonna be her man

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 2:14 AM

Hot, Hot Burrito…..Twice…

williamg on February 10, 2014 at 2:18 AM

Open registration is a unique sociological experiment here. Some trolls come on and actual go for a day or two trying their best to act like they want to engage in some level of honest discord but in a civil manner. Once they figure out Conservatives aren’t as weak-minded as their progressive friends and they start getting their asses handed to them, they melt down quickly. At that point they turn into obnoxious fornicatious alpenstocks.

Based on my reading, on the short list for losing their cool and getting the ban-hammer.

Lefttocenter
HILLAREWE

Who did I miss?

hawkdriver on February 10, 2014 at 2:19 AM

Whoa! Oh, Lanceman, ya made me giggle.

31giddyup on February 10, 2014 at 2:20 AM

Who did I miss?

hawkdriver on February 10, 2014 at 2:19 AM

Just leave my girl Pickles alone :D

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 2:22 AM

Night Newbie! And good night Lanceman, thanks for the trip down memory lane with the antheling link. Much ‘preciated!

And to the rest, good night from here in the Northwest Fema Camp #51

I leave you with this

lovingmyUSA on February 10, 2014 at 2:23 AM

But there’s a 80% chance that LeftoCenter is getalife.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 2:23 AM

Thought no one was here. Hawkdriver, are you still here?

31giddyup on February 10, 2014 at 2:24 AM

sleep well LMUSA….be safe

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 2:24 AM

Dexy’s Midnight Runners – Geno

kcewa on February 10, 2014 at 2:25 AM

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 2:24 AM

Is Cali talking about taking water from the Columbia River again?

kcewa on February 10, 2014 at 2:26 AM

Thought no one was here. Hawkdriver, are you still here?

31giddyup on February 10, 2014 at 2:24 AM

I am but just barely.

hawkdriver on February 10, 2014 at 2:29 AM

kcewa on February 10, 2014 at 2:26 AM

its cali…they will steal whatever they can…
liberal bay dwellers don’t care about eastern OR or WA..
they want their pools n hot tubs filled…

they are getting close to 40 million ppl now…like 38 n change..
17% of the nation almost…
they need power too…but build no plants..
no offshore drilling….
greenies run the place…and that makes up 2% of the grid on a good day…they would need more than 50 time the effort..
if you drive by a 1000 windmill farm…they would need 50,000..
but the libs n greens cant compute that…
they want your power your water your lumber your nat gas your oil and finally your cash to help bail them out cuz they cant control themselves…

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 2:34 AM

We haven’t met, just wanted to say thanks for your service.

31giddyup on February 10, 2014 at 2:36 AM

at the end of the 10th in sochi
Canada is beating Germany in curling 9 to 8…

going2mars on February 10, 2014 at 2:36 AM

But there’s a 80% chance that LeftoCenter is getalife.

Lanceman on February 10, 2014 at 2:23 AM

GetALife was more subdued in her writing. LeftOfCenter is just as insufferable troll. Nothing intelligent to add. That was the one I was thinking about when I wrote the comment above. They try for a day or two thinking they’ll add their wisdom to our meager, sheltered lives and we’ll see the light and mend our evil Conservative ways under their tutelage. pffft

I’m not sure we have a single liberal commenter here with any redeeming value. I try to think, is there one that comes on and say’s, “Well, you have a point there with how badly the ACA was rolled out. I wish it would have been better. It didn’t turn out like we thought it should”. etc

In the liberal mind, they cannot back down, they cannot admit even obvious failure. They are devoid of honesty or even sincerity.

hawkdriver on February 10, 2014 at 2:37 AM

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