Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on February 8, 2014 by Allahpundit

The CBO projects that [ObamaCare] will reduce the supply of labor, not the availability of jobs. There’s a big difference. In fact, it suggests that aggregate demand for labor (that is, the number of jobs) will increase, not decrease; but that many workers or would-be workers will be prompted by the ACA to leave the labor force, many of them voluntarily.

As economist Dean Baker points out, this is, in fact, a beneficial effect of the law, and a sign that it will achieve an important goal. It helps “older workers with serious health conditions who are working now because this is the only way to get health insurance. And (one for the family-values crowd) many young mothers who return to work earlier than they would like because they need health insurance. This is a huge plus.”

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Oh my God, say opponents of the ACA, here is the government encouraging sloth! That’s true only if you wish to take away the choices the law gives that 64-year-old or to those parents looking for more time to care for their children. Many on the right love family values until they are taken seriously enough to involve giving parents/workers more control over their lives.

And it’s sometimes an economic benefit when some share of the labor force reduces hours or stops working altogether. At a time of elevated unemployment, others will take their place. The CBO was careful to underscore — the CBO is always careful — that “if some people seek to work less, other applicants will be readily available to fill those positions and the overall effect on employment will be muted.”

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What the truth might be, and what few politicians would dare say, is there might simply be some value in lower economic growth

Initially, says one expert, there will be benefits in the fact that there is plenty of slack in the labor market. The combination of many unemployed Americans and many people finding jobs just to get insurance means that if a few people cut back their hours, there will be more hours for the people who want them. In and of itself, that theoretically means people will be much happier, says Ken Jacobs, chair of the Labor Center at the University of California-Berkeley, though that effect would dissipate as the job market improves.

“GDP growth isn’t a good in and of itself,” he says. “The question here is what’s going to create the most happiness for the greatest numbers of people. Being in a situation where people have to work full time or 40 hours a week at a job that may not be the best match for them because that is the only way to get health insurance is not the way you create the greatest happiness for the greatest number of people.”

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Already, based on the work of Gluskin Sheff economist David Rosenberg, there is evidence that much of the recent drop in the labor participation rate down to 1970s-levels is being driven by the availability — and the potential abuse — of welfare programs that disincentivize work

I can’t say I blame some people for making this choice. And many are, given the parabolic growth we’ve seen in the number of people collecting disability and food stamp benefits over the last few years.

According to a presentation by Gary Alexander, Pennsylvania’s secretary of public welfare, a single mom is better off earning a gross income of $29,000 and applying for welfare benefits (including children’s health insurance, child care and housing subsidies) that would give her a total of $57,327. If she worked hard and earned a gross income of $69,000, her after-tax take home pay will be just $57,045.

Why then, would she take that extra shift at work or apply for a promotion? Especially since these numbers don’t account for the additional health care subsidies available under ObamaCare.

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Here is how I would frame the issue: There are specific classes of people who plainly benefit, in fairly uncomplicated ways, from benefits that provide an incentive to work less, or leave a job outright. The obvious examples are the ones that liberals keep invoking: Parents of young children (for whom the family-friendly tax overhaul that conservative reformers like to tout would presumably have a similar effect), and people with a disability or chronic medical condition that makes work a simple misery.

But there also lots of people who emphatically do not benefit from being given an incentive to either detach from the workforce or (if they’re already unemployed or underemployed) remain detached rather than taking a lower-paying job. And given the current economic landscape, especially — in which persistently high unemployment coexists with a growing population of workers too discouraged to even look for work — the size and scope of a work-discouraging effect matters a great deal: The bigger the effect, the more likely that the people dropping out aren’t just, say, parents cutting hours to spend more time at home while the other spouse works full time, but people we should want to be attached to the workforce, for their own long-term good and the good of the economy as well.

Which is why it’s appropriate that the new C.B.O. projection of 2 million to 2.5 million job-equivalents disappearing has inspired more disquiet and debate than the old projection of 500,000-900,000 … because it’s a sign, however provisional, that the costs of Obamacare’s workforce effects might exceed the benefits. I don’t see liberals reckoning seriously with that possibility, and I think they really should.

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In 2024, spending on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and the Obamacare health insurance exchange subsidies will absorb two-thirds of the $4.9 trillion in revenue the CBO expects the federal government to collect. Add in the rest of mandatory spending and interest payments on the debt, and 96 percent of tax revenues will already be spoken for before Congress allocates money to pay for defense, veteran’s benefits, education, transportation, the court system, international affairs and other budget items…

In short, the CBO is portraying a future in which a smaller proportion of workers in a relatively weaker economy will be expected to subsidize an increasing number of government beneficiaries. And Obamacare is making matters even worse.

With one hand, according to the CBO, Obamacare will spend $2 trillion over the next decade on expanding Medicaid and subsidizing individuals to purchase health insurance. With the other hand, its subsidies will discourage the economic equivalent of 2.5 million individuals from working.

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House minority leader Nancy Pelosi says the CBO report vindicates Obamacare, because “this was one of the goals: to give people life, a healthy life, liberty to pursue their happiness. And that liberty is to not be job-locked, but to follow their passion.” Pelosi is particularly invested in this view. She’s been mocked for years now for her repeated claims that Obamacare is an entrepreneurial bill because it would let Americans quit their jobs to, among other things, “write poetry.”…

[A]ccording to the CBO, not every lost hour of work is the amateur poet’s gain. Yes, Obamacare lets people keep their health insurance even if they quit their jobs to master iambic pentameter. But the law also raises the implicit marginal tax on people looking for work; the more you earn, the fewer subsides you get. Thus, for many people, the costs of taking on more or better work will exceed the gains. So at least some people won’t feel liberated so much as trapped

Hopefully voters will look for ways to liberate these Democrats from the curse of job-lock come November.

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The larger betrayal, Mr. Mulligan argues, is that the same economists now praising the great shrinking workforce used to claim that ObamaCare would expand the labor market.

He points to a 2011 letter organized by Harvard’s David Cutler and the University of Chicago’s Harold Pollack, signed by dozens of left-leaning economists including Nobel laureates, stating “our strong conclusion” that ObamaCare will strengthen the economy and create 250,000 to 400,000 jobs annually. (Mr. Cutler has since qualified and walked back some of his claims.)

“Why didn’t they say, no, we didn’t mean the labor market’s going to get bigger. We mean it’s going to get smaller in a good way,” Mr. Mulligan wonders. “I’m unhappy with that, to be honest, as an American, as an economist. Those kind of conclusions are tarnishing the field of economics, which is a great, maybe the greatest, field. They’re sure not making it look good by doing stuff like that.”

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Every man and woman sitting idle because there is no work to be had — or because idleness literally pays better — is a potential poultry farmer gathering no eggs, somebody who could be growing roses or baking bread or proofreading romance novels. Say’s Law — that we produce in order to consume — is not a mere economic abstraction, and scarcity is not the product of economists’ imagination. They are features of the real world — they are physical facts. Every barrier that politicians put in the way of dealing with scarcity through free exchange and the division of labor — every tax, rule, and regulation — not only separates a worker from a paycheck but, more important, separates a worker from work, from the process of production and experimentation that enables us to, among other things, eat, and live in houses, and read J. K. Rowling books to our children.

Pope Francis is right to worry about the economics of “exclusion,” but he is wrong — and destructively wrong — about the instruments of that exclusion. The diversity of human interests, human desires, and human abilities is in effect infinite, and so too, therefore, are the uses of labor and opportunities for employment. Surely there are many paths to a “right livelihood” waiting to be discovered. And yet there sits official Washington, along with its supramarginal gyrus in the media, trying to figure out how to “create jobs” like an ape doing one of those monochromatic jigsaw puzzles with half the pieces missing, desperately working at “manipulating the world in order to get what we want from it,” forcing together pieces that do not fit.

And that is the perverse price of politics: that there are so few jobs to be had when there is so much work to be done.

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Work is a virtue that should be reflexively encouraged. It is the means by which standards of living are grown, human potential is reached, individual lives are focused, positive and negative instincts are channeled, resources are utilized most efficiently, and, above all, by which dignity remains intact. It is the best antidote to personal and national ossification and sclerosis, and the primary means by which our present material comfort was achieved. It is the driving force behind improvement, both real and imagined, in the nation’s mainstream culture. Whatever the ideal role of government in contriving work or wages for those who are without them, we should all presumably be able to agree that if we are going to have an intrusive state, it should be doing precisely the opposite of encouraging people to limit their involvement in work.. (Prudence dictates that I couch this asseveration with a disclaimer: No, I do not consider it the role of government to force people to work against their will, nor to support them if they choose not to. But that is a decidedly different question from whether it should do more to enable them not to work.)…

Progressives who are scratching their heads and asking themselves why conservatives who are “pro-business” and who have long wished to decouple health insurance and employment aren’t thrilled at recent developments might do well to heed their own advice. “George W. Bush,” Barry Switzer one quipped, “was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.” The implication of the joke: How you get somewhere matters. They are right, and so, herewith let it be resolved: Being forced to buy products is not the same thing as choosing to; leaving work because Uncle Sam is helping you out on the side is not the same thing as electing to leave without assistance; and winning the fruits of success without the hard work that has traditionally served as a prerequisite is no victory at all. We deserve government that recognizes these truths. Will we get it? Time will tell.

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DOMENECH: I think the real question Chris for you is, how many jobs are too many jobs? How few jobs are too few jobs. Its one of these situations where I think, in terms of the evaluation that the American people are going to make for themselves, my own perspective is, I’d rather have that family working more hours, because it’s going to increase their income over the course of time. It’s going to lead to better outcomes for their family. The perspective on the other side is, well, they’re working fewer hours, but they’re going to have health insurance, they’re going to have Obamacare there for them. And I think that that’s a question of what kind of economy do you want? Do you want one where people are working more hours for themselves and their families? Or do you want one where some people are going to be working more hours to pay for the subsidies, and some people are going to be working fewer hours but they’ll have health care?

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Bishop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:32 PM

BISHOP!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Dammit!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Bishop!!

Scrumpy on February 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Frank

RickB on February 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Tri-Bish

bazil9 on February 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM

RickB on February 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM

No.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:34 PM

DANG ! ! I look away fed a second and WHAM!

rottenrobbie on February 8, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Dammit!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:32 PM

You went loud and proud! Like you are supposed to!

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:35 PM

I just said it cuz…….I can! lmao… :)

Good evening all peeps and peepettes!!

{{HUGS}}

Scrumpy on February 8, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Scrumpy, Barb, and B-freakin’9!!!! Heaven!!!!!!!

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:36 PM

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Salads

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Endless Seafood – plus extra for pambi

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Breads

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Opinionator on February 8, 2014 at 7:58 PM

…down in the Gulch!

KOOLAID2 on February 8, 2014 at 8:36 PM

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Parteh in the gulch Ken ;)

Scrumpy on February 8, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Scrumpy on February 8, 2014 at 8:36 PM

*hugs back*

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:37 PM

BISHOP!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:32 PM

I got ya back kiddo!! “HUGS

Scrumpy on February 8, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Remember-tonight we totally ignore ‘certain’ people.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Remember-tonight we totally ignore ‘certain’ people.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Is it me?

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:40 PM

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Not even close. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:40 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Posted in the gulch hon…

Scrumpy on February 8, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Scrumpy on February 8, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Gulch?

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:41 PM

What the truth might be, and what few politicians would dare say, is there might simply be some value in lower economic growth…

Initially, says one expert, there will be benefits in the fact that there is plenty of slack in the labor market…

Let’s take that to it’s logical conclusion. Zero jobs and all the amnesty you can handle. Nobody pays taxes but everybody is making $50,000 …no, $100,000 per year on welfare.

Free stuff! Free food! Free houses! Get ‘em while they last!

Fenris on February 8, 2014 at 8:41 PM

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Why would anyone ignore YOU Ken?!!

Not in a million years :)

Scrumpy on February 8, 2014 at 8:41 PM

What the truth might be, and what few politicians would dare say, is there might simply be some value in lower economic growth…

Stagnation is the new growth!!” scream the staticist leftist slime and their retarded Indonesian instrument of destruction.

Of course the left loves stagnation. It is only in a stagnant, static, dead economy that leftist ideas have any chance of working. Growth and advancement have always been the bane of the left, as leftist central planning committees can never possibly adjust to changing real-world conditions. A stagnant, dead economy, however, is very easy to centrally control as there is nothing much to do other than decide how many paper clips desk #24332 should get this month … which is, of course, the same as it got last month and the month before and the month before … Stagnation makes many administrative tasks that much easier!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 8, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Scrumpy on February 8, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Insecure I guess. I don’t think some of the newbs like me./

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:44 PM

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Why would anyone ignore YOU Ken?!!

Not in a million years :)

Scrumpy on February 8, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Dude used to have a Grand National…no freaking way!

msupertas on February 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Ratso! errr, Raccoon!

OmahaConservative on February 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM

I wish this thread were not treated as a social chat room for off-topic posts, and that commenters would, at least most of the time, at least try to somewhat stay on a topic that is covered somewhere on the site.

Moving on, I have a question about these lost jobs. How does anyone know if people went to part time voluntarily, rather than because they were forced to?

bluegill on February 8, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Jesus Christ, it ain’t even 9:00! And I wasn’t done kicking the crap out of Pickles!

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 8:46 PM

I wish__________________

bazil9 on February 8, 2014 at 8:47 PM

And to think, that this time last week, Joe and I didn’t know what a wedgehead, applehead or meezer was!

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 8:47 PM

OmahaConservative on February 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Ignore…

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:47 PM

KCB

C’mere….Muah!

bazil9 on February 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM

OmahaConservative on February 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Ignore…

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Not you-someone else.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM

who?

OmahaConservative on February 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Evening All!!!

Good try on the “bishop” Alt. How are you feeling?

CoffeeLover on February 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM

And it’s sometimes an economic benefit when some share of the labor force reduces hours or stops working altogether. At a time of elevated unemployment, others will take their place. The CBO was careful to underscore — the CBO is always careful — that “if some people seek to work less, other applicants will be readily available to fill those positions and the overall effect on employment will be muted.”

The progressive obsession with the world as a zero-sum game rears its ugly head again.

In any area- economics, the environment, whatever- progressives argue that “for someone we like to win, someone we don’t like has to lose.

You can’t have energy and a clean environment, they argue, so we must not have energy sources other than Holy Wind and Holy Sun. If they’re inadequate (and they are), we must “de-develop” the world.

The criminal underclass must be allowed to “take” from everyone else to redress their inferior status. And you must not be allowed to interfere- by defending yourself when they decide to “take” from you.

There are only so many jobs, so for the “right people” to have them- somebody else must be put out of work. Unions love progressives with good reason- they’re the “right people”.

This is just the “union” argument given a bit of top spin.

My mother likened the progressive mentality to someone with a pie. To them, there is only one pie, and they will decide who is entitled to how big a slice.

If you dare to suggest that the logical solution is to bake a second pie…

They kill you.

Because once a second pie is available, nobody has to obey them to get a piece.

And they just won’t stand for that.

clear ether

eon

eon on February 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Dang, even old farts are turnin’ into noobs.

cozmo on February 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Ignore you Ken….never (waving)

CoffeeLover on February 8, 2014 at 8:49 PM

CoffeeLover on February 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Big {{{{hug}}}
Wonderful to see u!

bazil9 on February 8, 2014 at 8:50 PM

I wish this thread were not treated as a social chat room for off-topic posts, and that commenters would, at least most of the time, at least try to somewhat stay on a topic that is covered somewhere on the site.

bluegill on February 8, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Not even if Paul Krugman, himself, comes down the mountain.

RickB on February 8, 2014 at 8:50 PM

msupertas on February 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM

What a memory! What year?

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:51 PM

bluegill on February 8, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Bless your heart little one. Maybe someone who gives a crap will help you start your own place.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Hey Ying, seen Yang lately?

cozmo on February 8, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Obama once again today in his weekly radio address REPUDIATED his oath of office and THREATENED to rule by decree with his pen and phone.

At this point he needs to be Impeached. Charge: TREASON.

ConstantineXI on February 8, 2014 at 8:51 PM

KCB

C’mere….Muah!

bazil9 on February 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM

You and me!

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:51 PM

I wish this thread were not treated as a social chat room for off-topic posts, and that commenters would, at least most of the time, at least try to somewhat stay on a topic that is covered somewhere on the site.

bluegill on February 8, 2014 at 8:46 PM

“if wishes were fishes…

OmahaConservative on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Jesus Christ, it ain’t even 9:00! And I wasn’t done kicking the crap out of Pickles!

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Do you think pickles has an agenda of getting you banned.

RickB on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

bazil9 on February 8, 2014 at 8:50 PM

You…you. I put out an SOS via ccriminaz the other day. So good to see you as well gf. I do hope all is well you have been MIA too long.

CoffeeLover on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

OmahaConservative on February 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM

fish.

See Yesterday’s QOTD.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Do you think pickles has an agenda of getting you banned.

RickB on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

did I miss something good?

cozmo on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

CoffeeLover on February 8, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Love you CL!

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Let’s take that to it’s logical conclusion. Zero jobs and all the amnesty you can handle. Nobody pays taxes but everybody is making $50,000 …no, $100,000 per year on welfare.

Free stuff! Free food! Free houses! Get ‘em while they last!

Fenris on February 8, 2014 at 8:41 PM

…and a Big Mac hamburger is $1000…

The United States of Weimar!

Who is John Galt on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

oooooops…

OmahaConservative on February 8, 2014 at 8:53 PM

cozmo on February 8, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Yesterday’s QOTD. Start at around page 12

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:53 PM

CoffeeLover on February 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Hey *waves* go check out the gulch :)

Scrumpy on February 8, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Gonna kick ass on the grill with a couple of NY Strips. BBL!

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Dependency-Lock – it’s America’s future!

[h/t NOBOMO’s trademarked Welfare-Lock concept posted earlier today]

ShainS on February 8, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Do you think pickles has an agenda of getting you banned.

RickB on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Heh! She’s not likely to be able to do that. She’s a white 18-24 year old girl.

Or an incredibly effeminate boy.

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 8:54 PM

What a memory! What year?

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:51 PM

’86?? Does it matter? Either year, brother, you were the man.

msupertas on February 8, 2014 at 8:54 PM

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

right back at ya Ken!!!

CoffeeLover on February 8, 2014 at 8:54 PM

RickB on February 8, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Ignore it please!!

Scrumpy on February 8, 2014 at 8:55 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:53 PM

I would rather you give me the Reader’s digest version. Too many things goin’ on right now to play time machine.

Pretty please? I won’t pick on you tonight…so much.

cozmo on February 8, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Scrumpy on February 8, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Hiya…um, sad to say I don’t know how to get their. Never got the directions :(

CoffeeLover on February 8, 2014 at 8:56 PM

bazil9 on February 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Hey bazil, why did you debone me, disown me?

arnold ziffel on February 8, 2014 at 8:56 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 8, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Preach it, brother!

ShainS on February 8, 2014 at 8:57 PM

I was talking to the front desk person at my fitness center (very large national chain), and he said that hours are being kept to under 30 hours for each employee when possible by the manager doing the scheduling, and that he believed it was because of Obamacare. He and the others there want all the hours they can get. I believe most people in hourly jobs want more hours, not less, because they need the money.

bluegill on February 8, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Ignore…

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Are we ignoring the hagfish?

ShainS on February 8, 2014 at 8:58 PM

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:54 PM

We’ll all be over in 30 minutes Ken.

_______

esh there* (sorry) must remember to hit preview more often.

CoffeeLover on February 8, 2014 at 8:59 PM

People who have little money don’t have the freedom to do what they want. I’d love to be able to travel but my traveling these days is on tv. People with jobs can make their own decisions and that’s what the socialists don’t want.

crankyoldlady on February 8, 2014 at 8:59 PM

’86?? Does it matter? Either year, brother, you were the man.

msupertas on February 8, 2014 at 8:54 PM

I think the 85 lacked the intercooler. The 86 and 87 had it. Mine was 87. What color?/sarc

KCB on February 8, 2014 at 8:59 PM

msupertas on February 8, 2014 at 8:54 PM

I’m sorry, but your name always reminds me of a company like Veritas or Avaya.

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Are we ignoring the hagfish?

ShainS on February 8, 2014 at 8:58 PM

We are trying.

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 8:59 PM

cozmo on February 8, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Frank and…her…went beyond the Pale w/ me.
Scrumps, wanna take it from here?

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 9:00 PM

eon on February 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Preach it, brother!

[Apologies to at least one commenter here for not being absolutely O/T ... or something ...]

ShainS on February 8, 2014 at 9:01 PM

CoffeeLover on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

I needed to go MIA for a while…but still missed you and several others!

Hey bazil, why did you debone me, disown me?

arnold ziffel on February 8, 2014 at 8:56 PM

lmfao@debone! XO ziffy

bazil9 on February 8, 2014 at 9:01 PM

I wish this thread were not treated as a social chat room for off-topic posts, and that commenters would, at least most of the time, at least try to somewhat stay on a topic that is covered somewhere on the site.

bluegill on February 8, 2014 at 8:46 PM

I wish I had some beer batter and a hot skillet. Then I could fry me up some bluegill, with whiiiiine on the side.

captnjoe on February 8, 2014 at 9:02 PM

People who don’t work. Then not only will someone else pay for their health care, but someone else will have to make up for the productivity lost by them not working. It always begs the same question — who pays? Who pays?

LashRambo on February 8, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Are we ignoring the hagfish?

ShainS on February 8, 2014 at 8:58 PM

But, but…but sometimes she doesn’t write something that is over the top ignorant and stupid.

Like the thing with her gym. Okay, it was funny that she actually works out, but if the information is solid it agrees with stuff I have heard.

Enough anecdotal evidence can turn into empirical data.

cozmo on February 8, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Do you think pickles has an agenda of getting you banned.

RickB on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Or an incredibly effeminate boy.

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Just like you like them, Danceman.

Pickle on February 8, 2014 at 9:02 PM

it ain’t even 9:00! And I wasn’t done kicking the crap out of Pickles!

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 8:46 PM

That’s alright. You can go back.

crankyoldlady on February 8, 2014 at 9:03 PM

captnjoe on February 8, 2014 at 9:02 PM

ignore her.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 9:03 PM

LashRambo on February 8, 2014 at 9:02 PM

I thought you knew! The evil 1% rich people.

captnjoe on February 8, 2014 at 9:03 PM

“if wishes were fishes…

OmahaConservative on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

…then socialism would work?

Fenris on February 8, 2014 at 9:04 PM

ALT,

OK, if I have to, I guess.

It’s just it’s so fun to mock!

captnjoe on February 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Gulch?

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 8:41 PM

…down..on this thread twerp…it’s still on the right side of the page!…I even have a pair of sweat pants for cozmo…so he can sit at the table to eat lobster and crab…without spilling butter on his pecker.

KOOLAID2 on February 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Well, to start with, I don’t know who “frank”, or “her” is.

Has the Hollyweird guy mellowed out and come back?

He showed promise.

cozmo on February 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

captnjoe on February 8, 2014 at 9:02 PM

You’re gonna make a fine addition to the group, catnipjoe!

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

LOL

gityer readin’ glasses!

captnjoe on February 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

I was talking to the front desk person at my fitness center (very large national chain), and he said that hours are being kept to under 30 hours for each employee when possible by the manager doing the scheduling, and that he believed it was because of Obamacare. He and the others there want all the hours they can get. I believe most people in hourly jobs want more hours, not less, because they need the money.

bluegill on February 8, 2014 at 8:57 PM

A great source there. Did you ask him if you could borrow his Katy Perry CD?

Pickle on February 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Frank and…her…went beyond the Pale w/ me.
Scrumps, wanna take it from here?
annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 9:00 PM

I did no such thing. Enough with the drama act.

This is a political news and commentary site. Let’s try to keep things about the issues, not the personalities of readers.

bluegill on February 8, 2014 at 9:06 PM

“if wishes were fishes…

OmahaConservative on February 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

OK, I just got coffee all over my keyboard and my cat!

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Who wants to help me repurpose BMore’s wood pile? He gets his wood from trees. That’s cheating. You are supposed to get it from Home Depo.

SparkPlug on February 8, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Report: Palin parts ways with Fox News

posted at 6:51 pm on January 25, 2013 by Allahpundit

…would help…to show you which one…don’t know how to link it!

KOOLAID2 on February 8, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Frank and…her…went beyond the Pale w/ me.
Scrumps, wanna take it from here?
annoyinglittletwerp on February 8, 2014 at 9:00 PM

I did no such thing. Enough with the drama act.

This is a political news and commentary site. Let’s try to keep things about the issues, not the personalities of readers.

bluegill on February 8, 2014 at 9:06 PM

You are pissing up a rope. Seniors rule the school and you’re not one of the cool kids.

Pickle on February 8, 2014 at 9:08 PM

OK, I just got coffee all over my keyboard and my cat!

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Poor applehead JR…

OmahaConservative on February 8, 2014 at 9:08 PM

…without spilling butter on his pecker.

KOOLAID2 on February 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

BAD IMAGE! Need eyeball 1st aid!

captnjoe on February 8, 2014 at 9:08 PM

gityer readin’ glasses!

captnjoe on February 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

I’m also dyslexic. :D

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Frankenher sounds like a kinder gentler monster.

SparkPlug on February 8, 2014 at 9:09 PM

LOL Lanceman!!

B9….as long as you are okay. next time give a earlobe pull so I/we don’t worry.

CoffeeLover on February 8, 2014 at 9:09 PM

OK, I just got coffee all over my keyboard and my cat!

Lanceman on February 8, 2014 at 9:06 PM

I told ya to gityer glasses!

captnjoe on February 8, 2014 at 9:09 PM

A great source there. Did you ask him if you could borrow his Katy Perry CD?
Pickle on February 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

He was actually a former marine and likes to play classic rock. But I think it’s telling that you would want to look down on an hourly worker.

P.s. – keep going after me. You will build my cred here.

bluegill on February 8, 2014 at 9:09 PM

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