Kentucky poll: Mitch McConnell now trails Democratic challenger by four points in Senate bid

posted at 4:01 pm on February 7, 2014 by Allahpundit

Each of the five polls taken since December have had the race tight, but this is the first one showing Alison Lundergan Grimes in the lead. Noise or omen?

I know what you’re thinking, but don’t celebrate just yet.

“This is not going to be a coast for Mitch McConnell,” said pollster Jay Leve of Survey USA. “It’s going to be a dogfight. Every vote is going to matter. This election is going to have national consequences. We’re going to see a lot of money from outside interests flow into Kentucky.”…

Sixty percent of likely voters in the Bluegrass Poll disapprove of McConnell’s job performance, matching President Barack Obama’s sixty percent disapproval rating in Kentucky…

Among likely voters, McConnell and Grimes have virtually identical favorability ratings in the poll, 27 percent for McConnell and 26 percent for Grimes.

But McConnell’s 50 percent unfavorability rating is nearly twice Grimes’ 27 percent unfavorability rating.

A 27/50 favorability rating is not the stuff of which reelection is made. That means Matt Bevin’s the obvious choice on electability grounds in the GOP primary, right? He’s doing about as well as McConnell is against Grimes right now, trailing by just five points. One recent poll from Rasmussen even had him outperforming McConnell head to head with the Democrat.

Maybe not. Survey USA has McConnell leading Bevin in the primary by 26 points, 55/29. Why? Because, while McConnell may be toxic to Democrats and independents, he’s still above water within his own party. Among Republicans, his job approval is net positive at 51/41 while his favorable rating is 46/30. Even more interesting, when you ask Kentucky GOPers if McConnell compromises too much, too little, or just the right amount with Democrats, they split 35/20/32, i.e., there’s a clear majority who either approve of his dealmaking or wish he would do more, a mild surprise among a base that nominated Rand Paul four years ago. The knock on him from grassroots righties is that he’s the RINO di tutti RINOs but, if you believe Survey USA, Kentucky Republicans aren’t seeing it.

Bevin’s numbers on the “compromise” question, incidentally, are 19/16/22, but it’s hard to draw firm lessons about him from that given that he’s still unknown to so many voters (when asked whether they view Bevin favorably or unfavorably, fully 64 percent of GOPers either said “neutral” or “no opinion”). Right now, as is always true of a tea-party challenger in the early stages, he’s more “Republican who isn’t the incumbent I dislike” than he is a candidate with discrete views of his own. What happens, though, once voters realize he’s running to McConnell’s right? In theory, the fact that even Republican voters prefer compromise would hurt him; Bevin himself is sufficiently worried about that that he took care to denounce the government shutdown last October (sort of) to put voters at ease. On the other hand, he’s posted photos of himself attending Bircher events, which is … not so compromise-y. He’s trying to find the sweet spot between being conservative enough to get tea partiers psyched to turn out in the primary and swamp the moderates backing McConnell and not so conservative that it’s easy for Grimes to demagogue him if he makes it to the general. Not easy, but Rubio was facing the same problem against Crist four years ago and you know how that turned out.

By the way, keep an eye on the proxy war that’s brewing here between the Clintons and Rand Paul, who’s taken to calling Bill a “sexual predator” lately. Grimes is bringing Bill Clinton to Kentucky to try to seize the electoral middle ground, in the expectation that McConnell and Bevin will spend the next few months tacking right for the primary. McConnell will, at some point, bring in his pal Rand to go to bat for him, whether in the primary or the general. Will Monica Lewinsky be name-checked before November? Fingers crossed.


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Which we always hear when some moderate’s in trouble.

ddrintn on February 7, 2014 at 7:15 PM

I wouldn’t have posted it if people weren’t saying they were gonna support Grimes over McConnell. How would you react to someone saying they were gonna support Grimes over Bevin?

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Way to change the subject.

How’s that Palin for President campaign going?

rockmom on February 7, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Better than that Romney Administration is.

ddrintn on February 7, 2014 at 7:01 PM

I have a much clearer idea of what Palin would do as president than Romney would.

Mostly because Romney pulled his political punches while Sarah hasn’t. Hence the establishment GOP despising Palin for rocking the political boat.

viking01 on February 7, 2014 at 7:26 PM

It must be that moderate conservatism working for him.

Independents run the gamut, but the majority I’ve met lean pretty conservative and/or libertarian on most issues of the day.

Whoever told these idiots in the GOP that they needed to become moderates in order to win independents’ votes is also an idiot. …or, if it was a Democrat who told them, a genius.

Let’s hope that hypothetical meme-originating Democrat was operating in stealth mode. I like holding out hope that our GOP leadership isn’t totally full of low-IQ pushovers. Oh, who am I kidding.

brentspolemics on February 7, 2014 at 7:28 PM

“Gee, Kentucky must want a liberal in Congress. Let’s act more like one!” said no smart person ever.

brentspolemics on February 7, 2014 at 7:31 PM

I wouldn’t have posted it if people weren’t saying they were gonna support Grimes over McConnell. How would you react to someone saying they were gonna support Grimes over Bevin?

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM

People will probably say that because most moderates do actually do that. They take their ball and go home all the freaking time. I HATED Romney as a candidate in 2012, but I went to the phone booths, GOP meetings, etc to get him elected.

Frankly McConnell needs to be replaced as much as anyone up there who is there for more than two terms. Seriously, he has been there for OVER 30 YEARS! Don’t you think it is time to change and get some new blood in there?

God I swear it is like these people cannot survive a day in the real world outside of Washington DC.

NWConservative on February 7, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Don’t you think it is time to change and get some new blood in there?

NWConservative on February 7, 2014 at 7:33 PM

I’m agnostic on that question. I follow Milton Friedman’s principle that it’s not the right people that solve things but the wrong people who have been motivated politically to do the right thing.

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 7:43 PM

What’s the difference at this point between him and her? I’d laugh my a*s off if he lost.

SouthernGent on February 7, 2014 at 7:43 PM

If McConnell wins the GOP Primary, not only will I support his democrat opponent but will send money to her.

tcufrog on February 7, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Same.

tetriskid on February 7, 2014 at 7:02 PM

spoken like true (closet) democrats. u 2 are nuts and probably in the camp pretending to support Bevin like he’d be a better candidate than the most powerful Republican in the senate to represent Kentucky and knock off the democrat…riiight.

who let the dogs in?

gracie on February 7, 2014 at 7:47 PM

ACU scores? Really?

Aren’t they the ones inviting Christie to CPAC? You know, cause he’s so conservative?

Bitter Clinger on February 7, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Yes and if we are really lucky they will also invite the very liberal NY Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo to speak at CPAC as well. After all the GOPe wants a ‘big Republican tent’ and in Christie’s own words he and liberal NY Democrat Andrew Cuomo are peas in a pod:

“I’m not much different from Andrew Cuomo. I probably agree with him on 98% of the issues.”
– Chris Christie, Feb 2013

RJL on February 7, 2014 at 7:48 PM

spoken like true (closet) democrats. u 2 are nuts and probably in the camp pretending to support Bevin like he’d be a better candidate than the most powerful Republican in the senate to represent Kentucky and knock off the democrat…riiight.

who let the dogs in?

gracie on February 7, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Not commenting on supporting the democrat, but did you even look at the polls? Bevin polls better against Grimes (leads 40-36% last month) and Bevin is a little known challenger to a widely known Senator McConnell. McConnell who, if you read the poll is BEHIND Grimes by 4%.

NWConservative on February 7, 2014 at 7:51 PM

How would you react to someone saying they were gonna support Grimes over Bevin?

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM

I’d feel like I was in Virginia 2013 or Indiana 2012 or …

besser tot als rot on February 7, 2014 at 8:01 PM

If you think that Mitch votes 96% of the time with democrats, you are a fool…but then…

right2bright

If you think the percentage is what matters as opposed to the policies he actually does side with them on, then YOU are a fool. Hello, amnesty anyone?

xblade on February 7, 2014 at 8:01 PM

I’m agnostic on that question. I follow Milton Friedman’s principle that it’s not the right people that solve things but the wrong people who have been motivated politically to do the right thing.

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 7:43 PM

This is why I think it is more likely that the Democrats are more likely to do it after they get complete control again and everything is burning down around them and they are scared to death for being sent to political Siberia for the next century. The Republicans will never do the right thing (unless, perhaps, someone like Rand Paul or Ted Cruz by some miracle becomes President).

besser tot als rot on February 7, 2014 at 8:03 PM

If you think that Mitch votes 96% of the time with democrats, you are a fool…but then…

right2bright

If you think the percentage is what matters as opposed to the policies he actually does side with them on, then YOU are a fool. Hello, amnesty anyone?

xblade on February 7, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Actually, most of the votes are meaningless and/or procedural, so they probably do vote together quite often. Maybe not 96% of the time, but I’d bet that it is quite high.

besser tot als rot on February 7, 2014 at 8:05 PM

We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. -Benjamin Franklin

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Republicans want us to hang with them, or just hang. “Together” has got nothing to do with it.

besser tot als rot on February 7, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Republicans want us to hang with them, or just hang. “Together” has got nothing to do with it.

besser tot als rot on February 7, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Oh, you :P

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 8:12 PM

The ACU has got some defects in its scoring. One candidate got relatively high ACU ratings (though wobbly over time) and he had pushed for legislation to close the non-existent ‘gun show loophole’ (to basically make any firearms transactions including gifts to your family a federal matter), wanted to federalize the strips of land granted by municipalities to cable companies (which is not only a State issue but a freedom of speech issue) and blocked all attempts at low power FM stations for neighborhoods on the grounds that it would hurt large radio networks to have highly localized broadcasts for neighborhoods.

Yet he got high ACU ratings.

And the nomination.

I have deep problems with what the ACU doesn’t cover.

ajacksonian on February 7, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Not commenting on supporting the democrat, but did you even look at the polls? Bevin polls better against Grimes (leads 40-36% last month) and Bevin is a little known challenger to a widely known Senator McConnell. McConnell who, if you read the poll is BEHIND Grimes by 4%.

NWConservative on February 7, 2014 at 7:51 PM

This is who u should pay attention to…Professor Sabato..not D run polls…Kentucky R’s are not going to dump their most powerful voice in DC. Bevin’s a bust and the D’s are having pipe dreams again.

Right now, Kentucky undoubtedly is the “most watched” Senate race in the country. But does it deserve all that loving attention? Almost certainly not.

The odds of McConnell, even with his weak approval ratings, losing either the primary or general election are not impressive. In the primary, McConnell has a gigantic money advantage and sizable polling edge over Bevin, and for all the hype surrounding the “Establishment vs. Tea Party” narrative in Republican primaries, we need to be mindful of history.

Since 1946, only 5 percent of all sitting senators running for reelection have been defeated in a primary (as have only 2 percent of all House members running for reelection in the same time period). And despite banner headlines every time an incumbent falls, the proportion has not been steadily increasing—only eight of those 46 primary defeats have happened in the last 30 years. Yes, incumbent Republican senators Robert Bennett of Utah, Richard Lugar of Indiana, and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska lost primaries over the past two cycles, but there were extenuating circumstances beyond the Establishment-Tea Party divide: Bennett was surprised in a restrictive nominating convention of conservative ultra-activists and thus didn’t advance to a primary that he likely would have won; Lugar had basically abandoned Indiana as his residence and was overconfident and ill-equipped for Richard Mourdock’s challenge; and Murkowski remains in the Senate after winning a remarkable write-in race against the fatally flawed GOP primary winner, Joe Miller. While the 2010 Tea Party insurgencies were notable, one year does not a trend make. (For more on this topic, we highly recommend Clark University political scientist Robert Boatright’s Getting Primaried.)

Unlike Bennett, Murkowski and Lugar, McConnell has not been napping. He understands his character is chilly and his personal appeal is limited, and that he is not going to be re-nominated and reelected on a tide of voter love and gratitude—the egotistical assumption of many Senate old bulls. With blunt anti-President Obama issue positioning on health care and most other things, McConnell has left as little ground as possible for Bevin to till; McConnell and his aides have made it abundantly clear that they’re watching as state bigwigs choose sides, and names of supporters and opponents are being carefully noted by a man with a long memory.

Assuming, as we do, that McConnell makes it to the general election, he faces an appealing foe in Grimes, who (with the help of her father, a former state Democratic Party chairman) knows her way around the Bluegrass State. In the right year, under the most favorable circumstances, one could conceive of Grimes ending McConnell’s career. But 2014 is not that year, with a Democratic president on the ropes in the red states. Even factoring in “McConnell fatigue” after his five terms, is it really reasonable to expect the Republican Senate nominee to lose an election where Obama’s 2013 approval rating (according to Gallup) was only 35 percent, among the lowest in the country? Always possible, but not especially plausible.

This is all to say that while the Kentucky Senate race might be the most-watched contest right now, it probably shouldn’t be by the fall. Control of the Senate will likely be decided elsewhere. For example, we suspect the side that wins two of the following three currently Democratic-held seats—Alaska, Louisiana and North Carolina—will capture control of the Senate.

(Just to illustrate the amount of undue coverage the Kentucky race is getting, we used the LexisNexis Academic database and found 135 newspaper stories mentioning McConnell and Grimes since the start of last year; that’s more than the combined number of stories—128—featuring the top candidates in those key Alaska, Louisiana and North Carolina races, which are the only Senate races in the country that our Crystal Ball election ratings call “Toss-ups.” Our rating for the Kentucky Senate race is “Likely Republican.”)

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When it comes to governors, it’s arguable given recent coverage that someone just tuning into the 2014 election would think the biggest race in the country is going on in the nation’s second-most populous state, Texas, where Wendy Davis, a Democratic state senator—she of the now-famous (or infamous, depending on your political persuasion) abortion-rights filibuster—is running against state Attorney General Greg Abbott to succeed Gov. Rick Perry, his fellow Republican.

At first, Davis basked in the glow of media coverage so favorable it would have made Hollywood star-makers envious. Lately, Davis has received a good deal of unflattering attention for inconsistencies in her biography, and that’s certainly justifiable. Politicians need to be held accountable for their own narrative.

Larry J. Sabato is university professor of politics and director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics, which publishes the online, free Crystal Ball politics newsletter every Thursday, and a regular columnist for Politico Magazine. His most recent book is The Kennedy Half-Century: The Presidency, Assassination, and Lasting Legacy of John F. Kennedy. Kyle Kondik is managing editor of the Crystal Ball newsletter.
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gracie on February 7, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Whoever told these idiots in the GOP that they needed to become moderates in order to win independents’ votes is also an idiot. …or, if it was a Democrat who told them, a genius.
brentspolemics on February 7, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Br’er Rabbit and the briar patch comes to mind a la severely conservative only to do a 180 once in the cesspool and living it up.

AH_C on February 7, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Independents run the gamut, but the majority I’ve met lean pretty conservative and/or libertarian on most issues of the day.

Whoever told these idiots in the GOP that they needed to become moderates in order to win independents’ votes is also an idiot. …or, if it was a Democrat who told them, a genius.
…………………….
Exactly and if Bevin will just embrace conservative values and run as a conservative he has a shot at knocking off Mitch the Bitch. If he tries to please everyone he will lose easily.

rodguy911 on February 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM

A very mature post on these matters by Ace. Hey, NWConservative, it looks you are mentioned here.

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Rand Paul is nothing more than an establishment sycophant with his endorsement of McConnell.Tired of these insurgents who talk big and act RINO.

redware on February 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM

This is who u should pay attention to…Professor Sabato..not D run polls…Kentucky R’s are not going to dump their most powerful voice in DC. Bevin’s a bust and the D’s are having pipe dreams again.

gracie on February 7, 2014 at 8:26 PM

I’m not sure how you think that listening to what Sabato says is different than listening to what a Democrat poll has to say. Sabato is simply a Democrat who looks at polls.

besser tot als rot on February 7, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Rand Paul is nothing more than an establishment sycophant with his endorsement of McConnell.Tired of these insurgents who talk big and act RINO.

redware on February 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM

I understand the sentiment, but I don’t think that it is right in the case of Rand.

besser tot als rot on February 7, 2014 at 9:08 PM

I wouldn’t have posted it if people weren’t saying they were gonna support Grimes over McConnell. How would you react to someone saying they were gonna support Grimes over Bevin?

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM

That’s pretty much the moderate GOPer m.o.

ddrintn on February 7, 2014 at 9:17 PM

That’s pretty much the moderate GOPer m.o.

ddrintn on February 7, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Not this mod-GOP. I’d vote for Bevin if elected.

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 9:23 PM

All Bevin lacks is exposure – once his name get out there, he will defeat McConnell.

Just hide and watch…

conservativeBC on February 7, 2014 at 9:27 PM

That’s pretty much the moderate GOPer m.o.

ddrintn on February 7, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Not this mod-GOP. I’d vote for Bevin if elected.

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 9:23 PM

Maybe, but you’d have to put up with a lot of Karl; Rove and Co going on about how unelectable Bevin is. Say, is this from some Dem group? Wait…looks like it’s from McConnell’s folks.

ddrintn on February 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Maybe, but you’d have to put up with a lot of Karl; Rove and Co going on about how unelectable Bevin is. Say, is this from some Dem group? Wait…looks like it’s from McConnell’s folks.

ddrintn on February 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Fair’s fair until the primary is over.

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 9:45 PM

They should hand out cigars at every Clinton event ask all the women to wear blue dresses with irregular white spots.

2Tru2Tru on February 7, 2014 at 4:10 PM

…just lurking…but I like how 2T thinks!…lol!
…also…its good to see Lanceman has the fishing pole out…and has the pole bending already…just a question of if he’s using good 5 or 50 lb. test lines!

KOOLAID2 on February 7, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Fair’s fair until the primary is over.

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 9:45 PM

Yep. Sorry, but I hope Bevin pulls it out. The voters need to enforce their own term limits if congress won’t.

NWConservative on February 7, 2014 at 9:48 PM

A very mature post on these matters by Ace. Hey, NWConservative, it looks you are mentioned here.

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Yeah I frequent that site. The tea party is not as unpopular as people make it out to be, it is just not an issue to people. Only 22% support it, however, only 24% are against it. Most individuals just don’t care enough one way or the other.

Although Rasmussen did have a poll last October showing 42% of people identifying with Obama’s views vs. 42% identifying the tea party’s views.

So who knows.

NWConservative on February 7, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Yep. Sorry, but I hope Bevin pulls it out. The voters need to enforce their own term limits if congress won’t.

NWConservative on February 7, 2014 at 9:48 PM

May the best man win…did you just register yesterday? Seen on you Ace occasionally?

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Dude you read my mind!

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 9:57 PM

May the best man win…did you just register yesterday? Seen on you Ace occasionally?

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 9:56 PM

I’ve read Hot Air for years. Missed all the registration days, but had the last two days off of work and got in.

NWConservative on February 7, 2014 at 10:01 PM

I’m not sure how you think that listening to what Sabato says is different than listening to what a Democrat poll has to say. Sabato is simply a Democrat who looks at polls.

besser tot als rot on February 7, 2014 at 9:06 PM

? doesn’t matter what u call Sabato except right…

gracie on February 7, 2014 at 10:17 PM

Rand Paul is nothing more than an establishment sycophant with his endorsement of McConnell.Tired of these insurgents who talk big and act RINO.

redware on February 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM

? being dumb to justify being dumb

gracie on February 7, 2014 at 10:18 PM

Rand Paul is nothing more than an establishment sycophant with his endorsement of McConnell.Tired of these insurgents who talk big and act RINO.

redware on February 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM

There are precious few Republicans in Washington able to articulate conservative principles without swallowing their own tongue. Rand Paul is one. If you think he acts RINO you have not seen Scott Brown or Susan Collins. Unfortunately there’s only one Ted Cruz.

Franklin100 on February 7, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Rand Paul, who’s taken to calling Bill a “sexual predator” lately.

I’m a huge fan of Rand Paul, and his point is very true, but making BJ Clinton a theme seems like a losing battle at this point. The public just doesn’t care. They’ve whitewashed the history books. It’s over; we lost on this one.

It just seems a little like a rookie move for a guy who’s been, at least recently, consistently strategic, disciplined, and polished.

thirtyandseven on February 7, 2014 at 10:24 PM

Rand Paul is nothing more than an establishment sycophant

redware on February 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM

lolwut

thirtyandseven on February 7, 2014 at 10:25 PM

This shouldn’t even be a contest. The fact that McConnell is even close just shows that GOP voters are part of the problem.

If I lived in Kentucky, and McConnell won the primary, I would vote Democrat just to get rid of him.

We aren’t going to reverse the 90 year march to the left with entrenched RINOS/DC prositutes like Mitch McConnell.

And the lesser of two evils nonsense doesn’t sit well with me anymore. Let it burn if necessary.

The same goes for McCain and Graham too!

JB-STLMO on February 7, 2014 at 10:25 PM

? doesn’t matter what u call Sabato except right…

gracie on February 7, 2014 at 10:17 PM

I call him a blowhard, overrated, Democratic poll analyst. And afford his opinions the appropriate weight in accordance with that judgement – when I deign to waste my time reading his drivel, that is – which I didn’t today. But to each his own.

besser tot als rot on February 7, 2014 at 10:25 PM

Sabato and Doris Kearns Goodwin seem to me pretty much the same brand of poseur.

They make the rounds like typical P-BS hacks and know-it-alls whose knowing is seldom if at all.

viking01 on February 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM

besser tot als rot on February 7, 2014 at 10:25 PM

viking01 on February 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM

you are just p o’d cuz Sabato’s been very very right in 2008 2010 and 2012…can’t wait for 2014

gracie on February 7, 2014 at 10:40 PM

you are just p o’d cuz Sabato’s been very very right in 2008 2010 and 2012…can’t wait for 2014

gracie on February 7, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Been right? Do you pay attention to what he says at any point before the day before an election?! When a blind chihuahua could prognosticate correctly? Good grief.

besser tot als rot on February 7, 2014 at 10:43 PM

gracie on February 7, 2014 at 10:40 PM

P.O.ed at no one here. I just see them as the Weather Channel Gore-bull warming types who quickly glide into their revised figures as though those weren’t markedly different from yesterday’s.

Sorta like financier Baruch’s view of the economists such that if they knew as much as they think they knew “they’d have the money instead of us.”

viking01 on February 7, 2014 at 10:56 PM

I live in KY and will vote in the primary here on May 6. I voted for Rand Paul in 2010. However, Paul’s win in the primary that year over Trey Grayson had more to do with R’s here being unhappy with the way McConnell pushed Bunning to quit the senate than it did with some kind of Tea Party surge here.

Grimes will beat Matt Bevin like a drum if he is the nominee this fall. She has a large war chest and great name recognition from holding state wide office. Add to this the fact that voter registration still favors the Dems. KY usually goes repub for president but still elects Dems to congress and the governor’s mansion.

Grimes will vote Obama and Reid only about 90% of the time!
I honestly think that only McConnell has the funds, organization and name recognition to beat the Democratic machine here.

shubalstearns on February 7, 2014 at 11:06 PM

And the lesser of two evils nonsense doesn’t sit well with me anymore. Let it burn if necessary.

JB-STLMO on February 7, 2014 at 10:25 PM

+1

Franklin100 on February 7, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Hate to break it to you, but it is with a lot of conservatives.

And I’ll bet you $1000 Matt Bevin comes out in favor of it, because the horse industry and agriculture in Kentucky employs a crap-ton of illegal immigrant laborers now.

If that is the only issue that matters to y’all, you won’t find a candidate in this race at all.

rockmom on February 7, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Urf. Really? So we should accept amnesty because borderline *republicans* (note the nonusage of “conservative”) and the political field in general are a bunch of corruptocrats willing to sell out the country in order to make a buck?

This is acceptable to you? You seem to be spending a lot of time defending what appears to be the indefensible.

Until we stand up and say NO MORE, then this is the best we are going to do. We’ve went along now for two losing elections with middling “electables”. I think the RINO brigade had their chances.

If you choose to take the long road into ruin, then by all means. Some of us are disinterested in taking that journey with you.

kim roy on February 7, 2014 at 11:28 PM

It is hard for me to believe that you keep up with politics full time and this is what you got from the data.

The knock on him from grassroots righties is that he’s the RINO di tutti RINOs but, if you believe Survey USA, Kentucky Republicans aren’t seeing it.

Do you not understand that the people you are calling independents are Tea Party people who have become too disgusted with the establishment GOP that they refuse to labeled as republicans. Of course Bevin is polling bad with republicans, because the only thing left in it is a hand full of RINOs.

These “independents” WILL vote in the GOP primaries. And they WILL voter for Bevin.

McConnell is toast…

conservativeBC on February 7, 2014 at 11:42 PM

My wife’s family are all from Kentucky and are all Democrats. They are conservative but Democrats still. My Father in law has taken to sending me emails that are not kind to Dear Leader. If they can tie Grimes to Obama in any meaningful way, she’s done.

jharbert on February 7, 2014 at 11:48 PM

McConnell is in danger of costing the gop control of the Senate……..like that Delaware witch.

Karl Rove……eat that.

PappyD61 on February 7, 2014 at 11:49 PM

These “independents” WILL vote in the GOP primaries. And they WILL voter for Bevin.

McConnell is toast…

conservativeBC on February 7, 2014 at 11:42 PM

No they won’t. Only registered Repubs can vote in the Republican primary here on KY on May 6. KY has a closed primary. Indies will have no part in it at all.

shubalstearns on February 7, 2014 at 11:51 PM

And the lesser of two evils nonsense doesn’t sit well with me anymore. Let it burn if necessary.

JB-STLMO on February 7, 2014 at 10:25 PM

“It” is the United States. Your inaction is nothing to be proud of.

V7_Sport on February 8, 2014 at 12:04 AM

Do you not understand that the people you are calling independents are Tea Party people who have become too disgusted with the establishment GOP that they refuse to labeled as republicans. Of course Bevin is polling bad with republicans, because the only thing left in it is a hand full of RINOs.

conservativeBC on February 7, 2014 at 11:42 PM

shubalstrearns is right, you can’t vote in the GOP primary unless you are willing to be labeled as a Republican; you can’t change the system from outside.

thebrokenrattle on February 8, 2014 at 12:12 AM

He’s marginally better, but haven’t WE HAD ENOUGH OF MARGINALLY BETTER???????

Why can’t we try conservatism and people who actually want to solve problems.

Sigh. Nice to see you unseen. *waves to FloraDuh*

kim roy on February 7, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Damn straight! We’ve always preferred “infinitely worse” to “marginally better”! I mean that shows true cajones.

WryTrvllr on February 8, 2014 at 12:13 AM

We’re a long way from the Primary. And Mitch knows a lot of dirty tricks.

joecollins on February 8, 2014 at 12:17 AM

ANYONE who calls themselves a Republican or Conservative or Libertarian or Mark Levin Sycophant who takes any pleasure in Mitch’s dilemma…is a moron.

AYNBLAND on February 8, 2014 at 12:24 AM

A very mature post on these matters by Ace.

To the extent that activists who are tea partiers need to just take the lead and develop policy that can be sold to voters during elections he has a point. It’s not enough to want to be lead by a chastised establishment. The broad point that opportunities for the next generation are not the same as in previous decades, and that people in the middle are being made to feel the pinch by massive debt and job shifting is something which most normal people, left or right, want changed. There is something to fight about and win in elections.

But if he means trusting the same manderins who got us into this place and devalued the Republican brand, why bother compromising? Why follow losers? Romney/Ryan was an albatross. Jeb Bush similarly is someone we can’t carry to the finish line. While Ace might not like how this sausage is made, this ugly process will result in the special interest wing of the Republican party leaving, and allowing the rest to formulate a set of policies that the middle of America can vote for. Letting Boehner and McConnell be the face of the party is killing it. How is it that the worst rise to the top?

FrankT on February 8, 2014 at 12:25 AM

Rand Paul is nothing more than an establishment sycophant with his endorsement of McConnell.Tired of these insurgents who talk big and act RINO.

redware on February 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Awe nuts. I knew I was forgetting someone in my Rino list. Well at least we’ve got 4 or 5 senators.

WryTrvllr on February 8, 2014 at 12:31 AM

shubalstrearns is right, you can’t vote in the GOP primary unless you are willing to be labeled as a Republican; you can’t change the system from outside.

thebrokenrattle on February 8, 2014 at 12:12 AM

The Republicans here in KY are very “establishment” supportive. Dole won the primary here in ’96. George W. won in 2000. The Bushes were popular here. They tend to follow the lead of the national GOP when it comes to selecting candidates. The R’s here like what McConnell has done on matters that affect the state. His advantage, along with incumbency, is that the rank and file gop voters here are not the fire-breathing, throw ‘em out kind.

I’m not criticizing Matt Bevin, just making some observations after living here over 4 decades.

shubalstearns on February 8, 2014 at 12:33 AM

Caved on everything”, and still has a 90%+ score…good grief, at least do a little tiny research.

Be upset with certain votes, of course, but don’t lump in a few with the overall…your the kind that would bench Babe Ruth because he struck out so often…

right2bright on February 7, 2014 at 5:26 PM

geez votes? really. Everyone knows votes are more for show anymore. Hell some bills are even given a show vote so the senators can run back home and tell us idiots how they fought against so and so while all the time the real work goes on. Obamacare is a prime example. Mitch and the senate gop leadership had time after time to stop obamacare esp after Brown was elected. Instead they did everything in their power to see that it passed while all the time pretending to be against it.

I’m not upset with Mitch’s votes. unlike you I know they are for show. I’m upset with Mitch’s actions as minority leader. The fights he chooses to take, the surrenders he does to Reid and Obama every day. Day in day out. Conmparing Mitch to Babe Ruth is an insult to Babe Ruth.

unseen on February 8, 2014 at 6:48 AM

well he signaled to Reid he would not support the house’s efforts to not fund Obamacare in September, then not support the house’s efforts to delay funding it for a year. I think the line came when he got the dam project once that dust settled.

And give him credit for taking the sequester cuts when it was offered. But he pushed to remove them too so that’s a wash.

DanMan on February 7, 2014 at 5:27 PM

thank you for this example. this is what I’m talkign about. On every Obamacare vote Mitch has made sure he is on record as being against Obamacare yet behind the curtain when no vote record is being kept Mitch has worked nonstop to ensure that Obamacare stays the law of the land. Mitch will “vote” one way for the idiots back home but then work daily for the exact opposite outcome on most of Obama’s agenda. Without Mitch as minority leader Obama would never have been able to pass his agenda. When the history is written of Obama’s terms Mitch and Reid will be recorded as two of the most helpful in getting Obamacare passed

unseen on February 8, 2014 at 6:54 AM

Way to change the subject.
rockmom on February 7, 2014 at 5:30 PM

I didn’t chage the subject. You quoted an ACU score to show how Mitch was 100% conservative in his record. I posted a headline showing that Mitch was for amnesty. I can post more headlines on how Mitch not only was 100% for amnesty but also how he caved on every conservative action item as minority leader. Headlines on how Mitch and the SPeaker both worked since 2010 to blunt the tea party gains in the house and senate. So you have your conservative rating and I have the headlines. They don’t equal each other. Therefore one must be wrong. I’ll go with his actions not the show votes he has made.

unseen on February 8, 2014 at 7:01 AM

He’s marginally better, but haven’t WE HAD ENOUGH OF MARGINALLY BETTER???????

Why can’t we try conservatism and people who actually want to solve problems.

Sigh. Nice to see you unseen. *waves to FloraDuh*

kim roy on February 7, 2014 at 5:33 PM

I wouldn’t even call him marginally better. I’ll call him part of the problem. If we had a real opposition leader to Obama 50% of his agenda would have never seen the light of day. In fact without Mitch at the helm a lot of Obama’s agenda would never have passed esp after Brown won the senate seat.

unseen on February 8, 2014 at 7:03 AM

Sure they do, but McConnell voted NAY on the immigration bill.

It speaks well of McConnell that so many of those who hate him are liars.

Adjoran on February 7, 2014 at 5:46 PM

It’s no wonder why our country is in the shape it is in when our leaders can fool people like you daily. Mitch voted to end the filibuster on the immigration bill. that was the key vote. The actual vote on the bill itself was a done deal since the dems have the majority. As minority leader Mitch’s major weapon is a filibuster. By voting to allow the actual vote on immigration Mitch ensured the bill would pass regardless of his actual vote on the bill itself.

In a statement on the Senate floor this morning, Republican leader Mitch McConnell signaled he’d vote for cloture for the immigration bill.

once the minority leader stated that he would not filibuster the gang of 8 bill, the outcome was a done deal. God people wake up and smell the coffee. You are being lied too, played with and used like a litte child.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) on Tuesday said he would not try to block immigration reform from reaching the floor despite the opposition of some conservative leaders.

The green light from McConnell is a promising development for the 800-plus-page bill from the Gang of Eight that was unveiled at the beginning of the month.

While McConnell stopped short of pledging his support for the legislation, he praised the Gang of Eight’s work and said he is “hopeful” of passing a comprehensive immigration fix through the Senate.

“The status quo is not good, the current situation is not good,” McConnell said of the nation’s immigration system, which his colleagues frequently describe as broken.

“With regard to getting started on the bill, it’s my intention — if there is a motion to proceed required — to vote for the motion to proceed so we can get on the bill and see if it we’re able to pass a bill that actually moves the ball in the right direction,” he said.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/301047-mcconnell-hopefully-of-passing-senate-immigration-reform-bill#ixzz2sjRRnf52

unseen on February 8, 2014 at 7:13 AM

How would you react to someone saying they were gonna support Grimes over Bevin?
thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM
I’d feel like I was in Virginia 2013 or Indiana 2012 or …
besser tot als rot on February 7, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Brock Robamney on February 8, 2014 at 8:30 AM

How would you react to someone saying they were gonna support Grimes over Bevin?
thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM
I’d feel like I was in Virginia 2013 or Indiana 2012 or …
besser tot als rot on February 7, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Except that these very same people who said that we need to support the GOPe are the same people who say that we need to support the turtle, while letting Cucinelli twisting in the wind. Do you think I care about the Turtle Squad? Nope. And I am not sure I trust Rand Paul as he is trekking through the state to support a candidate who would take your liberties away to accumulate more power, but sounds like Reagan during election years.

Brock Robamney on February 8, 2014 at 8:35 AM

As a lifelong Kentuckian, I just want to say, “Hey Mitch, BUH-BYY!”

At this point I don’t care if Alison Hyphenated-DASH-Name wins, I want this vile RINO gone.

Besides, if Bevin wins the primary, things will switch against her rather quickly (though I FULLY expect Mitch McRINO will pull a Lugar and try to sabotage him). She is a radical Leftist scion of powerful Jefferson County families. Alison is out of step with the views of 95% of Kentuckians.

ConstantineXI on February 8, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Except that these very same people who said that we need to support the GOPe are the same people who say that we need to support the turtle, while letting Cucinelli twisting in the wind. Do you think I care about the Turtle Squad? Nope. And I am not sure I trust Rand Paul as he is trekking through the state to support a candidate who would take your liberties away to accumulate more power, but sounds like Reagan during election years.

Brock Robamney on February 8, 2014 at 8:35 AM

Conservatives are ALWAYS expected by the establishment to support the RINO “for the good of the party”, yet the Establishment RINOS NEVER, I repeat NEVER return the favor when one of their own is defeated by a Conservative. Examples: Lugar, Murkowski and others.

That is what happened in the 2010 and 2012 cycles. Therefore, I, as a Conservative, feel NO OBLIGATION WHATSOEVER to support the RINO when they defeat a Conservative. This Republican Party needs to be purged of the RINOS or the party ITSELF is useless to this country, and it doesn’t need “unity” it needs REPLACEMENT.

ConstantineXI on February 8, 2014 at 8:46 AM

Ky voters need to open their eyes and recognize that if Grimes it’s in she will vote the way dear leader and dingy Harry tell her to. That’s how it is in the D party. They can kiss their coal industry goodbye and continue to increase the ranks of those living on the govt teat.

Kissmygrits on February 8, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Ky voters need to open their eyes and recognize that if Grimes it’s in she will vote the way dear leader and dingy Harry tell her to. That’s how it is in the D party. They can kiss their coal industry goodbye and continue to increase the ranks of those living on the govt teat.

Kissmygrits on February 8, 2014 at 9:14 AM

so what you are saying is that it would sort of be like present day except moreso. correct?

unseen on February 8, 2014 at 9:33 AM

I’ll take Larry Sabato’s analysis of this race. McConnell is worth a dozen Boehners, and it burns me up to hear him lumped in with the teary-eyed tan towel / bar rag just because he’s in the leadership. The two don’t even coordinate. McConnell was behind the sequester cuts, the only reduction in the size of government we’ve seen from Republicans in recent years. He took John McCain to the Supreme Court to challenge McCain-Feingold. For this, he is rewarded with some carpetbagging yankee getting money from outside groups to possibly cost the GOP the senate?

Meanwhile, Boehner, who openly discusses burning the base with amnesty, has an acceptable primary challenger, and you don’t hear a blip about him. Every bit of oxygen you give Kentucky Democrats and their quest to unseat the Republican leader in the Senate is fueling a fire that will destroy this country, not just the GOP, but the only thing stopping the progressive march.

ezspirit on February 8, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Jeepers, if Bevin’s such a grand alternative to McConnell, why isn’t he making any ground in the polls — last count down 30. If Bevin’s hardrock supporters dislike McConnell so much, and the latter wins the primary, then vote for Grimes or stay home. Surely her “independent voice” will be better for KY and the USA then another six years of McConnell right?

Dan333 on February 8, 2014 at 10:29 AM

I’ll take Larry Sabato’s analysis of this race. McConnell is worth a dozen Boehners, and it burns me up to hear him lumped in with the teary-eyed tan towel / bar rag just because he’s in the leadership. The two don’t even coordinate. McConnell was behind the sequester cuts, the only reduction in the size of government we’ve seen from Republicans in recent years. He took John McCain to the Supreme Court to challenge McCain-Feingold. For this, he is rewarded with some carpetbagging yankee getting money from outside groups to possibly cost the GOP the senate?

Meanwhile, Boehner, who openly discusses burning the base with amnesty, has an acceptable primary challenger, and you don’t hear a blip about him. Every bit of oxygen you give Kentucky Democrats and their quest to unseat the Republican leader in the Senate is fueling a fire that will destroy this country, not just the GOP, but the only thing stopping the progressive march.

ezspirit on February 8, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Mitch McConnell voted for the original amnesty in 1986

Mitch McConnell co-sponsored an amnesty bill in 2000

Mitch McConnell voted for amnesty in 2006 (Which party lost big that year?)

Mitch McConnell voted against the border fence in July of 2006, but it became popular (imagine that) and voted for it in September 2006.

Mitch McConnell originally voted FOR the amnesty in 2007 but changed his vote against after the needed 40 senators voted to kill it.

Mitch McConnell voted against the immigration bill this year after not commenting on it the whole time it was in front of the Senate and voted FOR cloture on the bill to bring it up.

Mitch McConnell was pushing for the House to go to conference with an immigration bill where the legalization first language would replace any enforcement provisions.

I said this earlier, you don’t need to primary McConnell to give the seat to the Democrats, HE is doing it all by himself. And you freaking out about some “Yankee” coming in with outside money? Where the heck do you think the Senate Minority leader is getting his 20 MILLION dollars from??? I applaud McConnell on his free speech stance, but I don’t believe that he has been effective in his leadership roles AT ALL. I actually would be fine with him if he stepped down from the leadership and handed it off to someone else. The same for Boehner.

But since he won’t step down and will probably give the race to the democrats the way it is going, go Bevin!

NWConservative on February 8, 2014 at 10:39 AM

New guy. McConnell the post turtle may or may not win the primary. Lets see if Bevin’s a smart man. But I want McConnell to bleed establishment money. The Senate Conservative fund is out raising the GOP fund. I also am a fan of Milton F. And the way to make the wrong people do the right things is scare the living hell out of them. Rand is helping him because he is the Jr. Senator of the state. And becoming the actual power over the empty shell that is our minority leader in the senate. If Rand gets him re-elected, he will own McConnell.

Cliff by the Ford on February 8, 2014 at 11:13 AM

most powerful Republican
gracie on February 7, 2014 at 7:47 PM

And there lies the problem. Republicans who think they are our rulers

Brock Robamney on February 8, 2014 at 11:20 AM

Jeepers, if Bevin’s such a grand alternative to McConnell, why isn’t he making any ground in the polls — last count down 30. If Bevin’s hardrock supporters dislike McConnell so much, and the latter wins the primary, then vote for Grimes or stay home. Surely her “independent voice” will be better for KY and the USA then another six years of McConnell right?
Dan333 on February 8, 2014 at 10:29 AM

So tell me in 10 words or less what one thing does Turtle King stand for?

Brock Robamney on February 8, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Anything to get the Democrat elected! McConnell is one of the most conservative Senators. Has over a 90% rating from Club for Growth, Americans for Prosperity, American Right to Life, National Rifle Association, American Conservative Union and others. Cornyn is also being primaried and was listed as the second most conservative Senator in the entire body. Notice the pattern here? We have two of the most conservative Senators being primaried. The Kentucky race is liable to result in the Democrat being elected because of the primary challenge. Every dollar spent for and against Republicans running against Republicans is two dollars that can’t be spent against the Democrat.

We hear moaning to no end about Boehner and McConnell, yet we hear NOTHING about Collins, Ayotte, Heller, and Murkowski who are the real Gang of Four RINOs. Look at the vote in the Senate yesterday on the unemployment benefits extension. Even Lamar Alexander and John McCain and Lindsay Graham stood by their party but not the Gang of Four who voted with the Democrats (It appears that Ayotte, Collins, and Murkowski changed their votes to “no” after it was clear the measure would not pass so if you go look in the official record now, it will show only 55 votes “yes” not the 58 votes that existed when Reid cast his vote).

There’s another problem in Georgia. Democrats are pouring money into the primary campaign of the “Tea Party” challenger just like they poured money into Aiken in Missouri.

This is why they call the Republicans “the stupid party”. In Nevada, Sue Lowden was set to beat Harry Reid, was primaried from the right by Sharon Angle and Reid got re-elected. In Colorado, Jane Norton was set to beat Bennett, was primaried from the right by Ken Buck and Bennett was elected. In Delaware, Mike Castle was set to beat Coons. He was primaried from the right and Coons was elected. In Indiana, Richard Lugar was primaried from the right and the Democrat was elected. The same thing is about to happen in Kentucky.

It is very likely that the Tea Party will rescue the Democrats and allow Harry Reid, who they re-elected in 2010, to keep his seat as Majority Leader. No amount of reshuffling the Republican deck chairs in the House or Senate will make any difference if Reid keeps his seat.

Primaring McConnell is the stupidest strategic move I have seen in politics in a very long time. It is downright idiotic. Meantime, you never hear a peep from the “conservatives” about the REAL RINOs.

Get a majority FIRST, then weed out the REAL RINOs.

crosspatch on February 8, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Sorry to be lazy, but I didn’t delve too deep into the story or the numbers. It just seems fairly obvious that a lot of the negatives for McConnell are from Republicans. He’s a pro-amnesty squish. But he’s done a decent job of herding the idiot-Republicans in the Senate and probably needs to remain in the caucus.

If they are too stupid to elect a better leader, so be it.

Jaibones on February 8, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Oh…and remember, conservatives: when you read a RINO talking about “the REAL RINOs”…ignore the liberal troll.

Jaibones on February 8, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Perfect 100 ACU rating in 2012.

Yeah, no difference at all.

American Conservative Union Ratings 2012

Give me a break.

Next I guess you will tell me how the ACU is a bunch of RINOs now. (Reminder: That is the group that hosts CPAC.)

rockmom on February 7, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Frankly, if the ACU can give this amnesty-pushing hack who expressed a wish to punch the Tea Party in the nose a “perfect 100 ACU rating in 2012,” maybe the problem isn’t with us being unreasonably picky. Maybe the problem is with the ACU’s rating, or maybe McConnell knows how to game the system to get high numbers from the ACU, or maybe McConnell just plain turned bad this year.

Aitch748 on February 8, 2014 at 1:16 PM

NOOOO! These people are registered Repubs who call themselves independents. LOL

No they won’t. Only registered Repubs can vote in the Republican primary here on KY on May 6. KY has a closed primary. Indies will have no part in it at all.

Do you think they are registered independents from the “independent” party? geez…

They are republicans with brown bags over their heads because of the likes of McConnell…

conservativeBC on February 8, 2014 at 1:34 PM

crosspatch on February 8, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Hmmmm… So Turtle King is a conservative? The guy who led the charge on the largest middle class tax hikes, and who has not opposed one thing President Palpatine has done? The so called leader who said don’t oppose Obamacare because it will distract from Obamacare? Sorry, he needs to go. He is utterly useless. If Grimes takes his seat, he will not be missed because he does nothing but oppose conservatives. Bye Bye..

Brock Robamney on February 8, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Do you think they are registered independents from the “independent” party? geez…

They are republicans with brown bags over their heads because of the likes of McConnell…

conservativeBC on February 8, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Let’s go back to your original statement :

Do you not understand that the people you are calling independents are Tea Party people who have become too disgusted with the establishment GOP that they refuse to labeled as republicans. Of course Bevin is polling bad with republicans, because the only thing left in it is a hand full of RINOs.

You did indeed make it sound like you meant that people were leaving the party and registering as independents. Which as I said, was foolish if you live in a closed-primary state.

thebrokenrattle on February 8, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Please tell me you are joking?

Lol – maybe you are right the independents will have their own “Not So Sure Party Primary” – it is a big event in KY…

No they won’t. Only registered Repubs can vote in the Republican primary here on KY on May 6. KY has a closed primary. Indies will have no part in it at all.

I hate to be all smart as$ but da^m..

Poll 100,000 who claim to be independents – 70% will be registered R’, 15% registered Dems and 15% who have never registered…

conservativeBC on February 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM

What’s the difference at this point between him and her? I’d laugh my a*s off if he lost.

SouthernGent on February 7, 2014 at 7:43 PM

It could mean the difference between getting some more Obamacare type legislation passed into law. As bad as McConnell is, he didn’t vote for Obamacare.

Al Franken, Mark Begich and Jim Webb were all elected to the Senate with this mentality. Had just one of them lost to a RINO, we would not have Obamacare.

edrebber on February 8, 2014 at 1:55 PM

You did indeed make it sound like you meant that people were leaving the party and registering as independents. Which as I said, was foolish if you live in a closed-primary state.

Maybe I did, but that would be such a foolish thing to do that it never crossed my mind…

I call myself an independent, but I am not dumb enough to screw myself out of a primary vote…

And I dang sure wouldn’t vote for the RINO McConnell…

Here is something you might find interesting:

Rand Paul: I only endorsed Mitch McConnell because nobody else was running at the time

conservativeBC on February 8, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Why do you think that McConnell would put up a fight against Obamacare?

It could mean the difference between getting some more Obamacare type legislation passed into law. As bad as McConnell is, he didn’t vote for Obamacare.

conservativeBC on February 8, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Primaring McConnell is the stupidest strategic move I have seen in politics in a very long time.

I agree. As I said last night, Allison Grimes will beat Matt Bevin like a drum if he is the nominee here this fall. She has won state wide offices, has name recognition, plenty of cash, and solid, unified support of the Democratic Party in KY. The Tea Party is not as strong here as some on this site think. By the way, I voted for Rand Paul in our primary here in ’10 and the general election.

We hear moaning to no end about Boehner and McConnell, yet we hear NOTHING about Collins, Ayotte, Heller, and Murkowski who are the real Gang of Four RINOs

I’ve been saying that we need to primary the most liberal republicans first. It is a strategic blunder to primary so many in one election cycle.

shubalstearns on February 8, 2014 at 2:11 PM

They only time this sell-out put his name on a vote against Obamacare is when he knew it didn’t matter. Go check on how he voted for cloture…

It could mean the difference between getting some more Obamacare type legislation passed into law. As bad as McConnell is, he didn’t vote for Obamacare.

conservativeBC on February 8, 2014 at 2:17 PM

The poll.

You can’t run a poll when you haven’t had a primary yet. Some people won’t say they will vote for McConnell until he is the candidate, they want their guy. About four points worth??

If you are a republican in KY and the challenger loses the primary, exactly how stupid is it, to stay home or vote for the democrat? This poll cannot exist at this time.

Fleuries on February 8, 2014 at 3:02 PM

If you are a republican in KY and the challenger loses the primary, exactly how stupid is it, to stay home or vote for the democrat? This poll cannot exist at this time.

Fleuries on February 8, 2014 at 3:02 PM

How stupid is it to keep voting for lying shitstain feckless GOP ‘leaders’ when they do little beyond enable and support the DNC, and openly war with their own base?

Midas on February 8, 2014 at 3:17 PM

Mitch McConnell shouldn’t have gone after the base. He’s forgotten why he is there and who he works for. Probably like 98% of the people who are in D.C..

Cindy Munford on February 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM

The poll.

You can’t run a poll when you haven’t had a primary yet. Some people won’t say they will vote for McConnell until he is the candidate, they want their guy. About four points worth??

If you are a republican in KY and the challenger loses the primary, exactly how stupid is it, to stay home or vote for the democrat? This poll cannot exist at this time.

Fleuries on February 8, 2014 at 3:02 PM

If Matt Bevin wins the primary in May, he will definitely get my vote in the general. The same goes for Mitch McConnell. Either of them I will disagree with some of the time. Allison Grimes I will disagree with all of the time.

shubalstearns on February 8, 2014 at 3:40 PM

The Senate is an old white man’s sausage party. Time to get more estrogen in there.

LeftoCenter on February 7, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Great, so you will be supporting Palin for AK Senate?

captnjoe on February 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM

It could mean the difference between getting some more Obamacare type legislation passed into law. As bad as McConnell is, he didn’t vote for Obamacare.
Al Franken, Mark Begich and Jim Webb were all elected to the Senate with this mentality. Had just one of them lost to a RINO, we would not have Obamacare.
edrebber on February 8, 2014 at 1:55 PM

He didn’t oppose Obamacare either. Sorry, but doing nothing and saying vote for me because it wasn’t my fault at the same time targeting Constitutional Conservatives doesn’t cut it. I noticed that nobody still can’t tell me what one thing the GOP stands for. I already know the answer. Zero, zip, and letting the Democrats do what they want

Brock Robamney on February 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM

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