Obama admin looking at extending “administrative fix” for noncompliant individual plans — for three years?

posted at 4:21 pm on February 6, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

Last November was a particularly — ahem — messy time for President Obama’s crowning legislative achievement. The rollout of the law’s federal exchange website was showcasing newly-plumbed depths of big-government incompetence and obfuscation while millions of insurees in the individual market were balking at notices informing them that their not-comprehensive/expensive-enough healthcare plans were getting cancelled in order to comply with the new standards that ObamaCare had laid down for their guidance. The president’s very own Democrats were desperately floating legislation to enforce the oft-repeated “If you like your plan, you can keep it”-promise that was soon after deemed “The Lie of the Year,” but rather than bother with messy legislation, the Obama administration followed their unilateral employer-mandate delay with an “administrative fix” for these individual plans that would allow insurers to un-cancel cancelled plans for another year.

They hoped that would calm things down for awhile and at least temporarily cushion the spreading revelation that forcing insurees off of inexpensive plans is in fact a feature and not a bug of the law, but that means that a lot of those same uncomfortable conversations are going to be coming due right about the time of the midterms this fall.

Heck, they did it once already — why not extend the “fix” through 2016, really? So what if the decision plagues the already-tottering system with insurance plans that don’t pull their redistributive weight? That’s what risk corridors are for! Via the AP:

The Obama administration is considering an extension of the president’s decision to let people keep their individual insurance policies even if they are not compliant with the health care overhaul, according to two top industry officials.

Avalere Health CEO Dan Mendelson said Thursday that the administration may let policyholders keep that coverage for an additional three years, stressing that no decision has been made. Policymakers are waiting to see what rate hikes health insurers plan for the insurance exchanges that are key to the overhaul’s coverage expansions.

“The administration is entertaining a range of options to ensure that this individual market has stability to it and that would be one thing that they could do,” he said. …

Aetna Inc. Chairman and CEO Mark Bertolini also told analysts during a conference call to discuss quarterly earnings that he had heard the plans may be extended. Aetna is the nation’s third-largest health insurer.

Aetna Chief Financial Officer Shawn Guertin said in an interview after the call that there have been discussions about whether the plans should be extended again, but he didn’t have any more details.

Chris Matthews has a point, ya’ll. Honestly, I really just don’t see how anybody could construe labeling President Obama with “lawlessness” as anything but “second-term birtherism.”

And if worst does come to worst, like I said — they’ve always got risk-corridors! Via Scott Gottlieb at Forbes:

Humana announced that it expects to tap the three risk adjustment mechanisms in ObamaCare for between $250 and $450 million in 2014. This amounts to about 25 percent of the insurer’s expected exchange revenue. This money is needed to offset losses that the insurer will take as a result of slower enrollment in its ObamaCare plans, and a skewed risk pool that weighs more heavily toward older and less healthy members than it originally budgeted. …

The company blamed the Obama Administration’s decision late last year to extend grandfathering of individual market plans for the overall deterioration in the risk pool. That means that Humana (like other insurers) was counting on people from the individual market being forced to transition into ObamaCare plans. It’s widely perceived that the Obama Administration counted on that migration as well. But Humana’s statement was a very clear expression of this expectation.


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…delay the pain to the demorats…kick the can down the road!

KOOLAID2 on February 6, 2014 at 4:22 PM

This law clearly violates the 14th amendment in application and should be invalidated.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Watch all of the reputable insurance companies stampede to get out of the exchanges if he does this…

PetecminMd on February 6, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Would you rather they work out the problems or continue to complain?

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Translation: This law sucks so much a$$ that only the dimbest of bulbs of signing up.

NotCoach on February 6, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Another Pharoah decree.

VorDaj on February 6, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Would you rather they work out the problems or continue to complain?

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:25 PM

The entire law is a problem.

TarheelBen on February 6, 2014 at 4:27 PM

One has to admire the chutzpah on these people… Why have laws at all? Why not simply disband Congress and let the president do whatever he pleases? Also, if this is not a problem for four years, why not simply then reverse the rule and allow those plans altogether?

ojfltx on February 6, 2014 at 4:28 PM

We’ve found out that buying medical insurance is complicated.

butch on February 6, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Would you rather they work out the problems or continue to complain?

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:25 PM

They are the problem, morons and psychopaths all.

VorDaj on February 6, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Would you rather they work out the problems or continue to complain?

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:25 PM

How do they fix the law without gutting it Pickle?

ojfltx on February 6, 2014 at 4:29 PM

So, they’re going to delay it now till it is repealed

ConservativePartyNow on February 6, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Barack Obama is a demented misanthrope.

VorDaj on February 6, 2014 at 4:30 PM

I don’t know why someone would not want a better plan offered under the ACA?

Extreme Moderate on February 6, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Repeal it then!

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:32 PM

How do they fix the law without gutting it Pickle?

ojfltx on February 6, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Obviously the answer to that is “single-payer”! Duh!

Now stop feeding the trolls.

PetecminMd on February 6, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Interesting quandry for President Hillary, should she win 2016 and the GOP have majorities in the House and Senate. If this thing continues to puke jobs and affordable insurance coverage, while costing way more than originally promised,, would she dare veto a Congressional bill to repeal and replace?

butch on February 6, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Would you rather they work out the problems or continue to complain?

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Since you asked…

I would rather the President refrain from breaking the law by legislating from his desk, repeatedly illegally taking it upon himself to amned the law, ignoring separation of powers, bypassing congress, the sole entity empowered to make or change the law.

I would rather the needless pain, suffering, and even death that this law has caused and will continue to cause be avoided and ObamaCare be repealed in its entirety.

thatsafactjack on February 6, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Humana announced that it expects to tap the three risk adjustment mechanisms in ObamaCare for between $250 and $450 million in 2014.

“Tap the risk adjustment mechanisms in Obamacare” is lefty-speak for suck taxpayers dry.

The Republicans need to pass that bill to stop taxpayer bailouts of health insurance companies. Let Harry Reid and Obama explain to voters why taxpayers should pay billions of dollars a year to insurance companies, on top of paying higher premiums and bigger co-pays, just to keep this stupid, job-destroying, unconstitutional behemoth of a law alive.

AZCoyote on February 6, 2014 at 4:35 PM

I am still kicked off of my insurance as of January 1st this year. My state will not allow this administrative fix to even go into effect, so my old plan is not coming back. It didn’t stop Regence sending me a packet of the new plan they forcibly “transitioned” me to (even though I did not request it nor want to have insurance now).

My new deductible would have been $5,000 for In Network and $10,000 for Out of Network. My doctor? Out of network. My nearest 3 hospitals? Out of network. Oh and when I pay the deductible, I still get to pay AT LEAST 30% of the bill after.

All of that for a low price of $525 a month for a 27 year old married couple. So I guess I will just take the “penalty” on my refund next year… Oh wait I won’t have a refund next year!

NWConservative on February 6, 2014 at 4:35 PM

It’s not going anywhere. So, what is the problem with fixing the problems and making sure those who qualify get coverage?

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM

“…big-government incompetence”, means the Obama admin SOP, right?

battalion on February 6, 2014 at 4:37 PM

So the open registration brought in some new trolls? Good, I was getting tired of the old ones…

sandee on February 6, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Interesting quandry for President Hillary . . .

butch on February 6, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Please! I just fixed myself a sandwich.

TarheelBen on February 6, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Our laws are just like the pirate code.

gwelf on February 6, 2014 at 4:38 PM

The Republicans need to pass that bill to stop taxpayer bailouts of health insurance companies. Let Harry Reid and Obama explain to voters why taxpayers should pay billions of dollars a year to insurance companies, on top of paying higher premiums and bigger co-pays, just to keep this stupid, job-destroying, unconstitutional behemoth of a law alive.

AZCoyote on February 6, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Well that is precisely the thing that the Boehner just stated they would not fight for in the debt ceiling fight.

NWConservative on February 6, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Only the government can fix this. Single payer now! Oh, wait…..

SailorMark on February 6, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Polls must be really bad to do this.

wifarmboy on February 6, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Why doesn’t he just admit that delays bracket elections. Everyone already knows it, he just looks like a bigger buffoon every time he does this.

Can one max out on ‘buffoon’? I don’t know if you can, but he sure is trying.

Diluculo on February 6, 2014 at 4:40 PM

More of a suggestion than a code.

thei3ug on February 6, 2014 at 4:40 PM

We entered the realm of absurdity a while back. Coming up fast? The Kingdom of the Überabsurd!

NavyMustang on February 6, 2014 at 4:40 PM

May I have an extra three years to pay my taxes?

NY2SC on February 6, 2014 at 4:41 PM

It’s not going anywhere. So, what is the problem with fixing the problems and making sure those who qualify get coverage?

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM

The President of the United States, head of the executive branch of the federal government has repeatedly breached separation of powers, in that he has repeatedly taken it upon himself, illegally, to change the law.

Only congress is empowered to make or change the law.

The Executive branch of government is not empowered to make or change the law.

Obama stands repeatedly in violation of the law in his amendments ( those fixes you mention) to the legislation known as ‘ObamaCare’.

thatsafactjack on February 6, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Utter lawlessness.

rbj on February 6, 2014 at 4:43 PM

It’s not going anywhere. So, what is the problem with fixing the problems and making sure those who qualify get coverage?

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Nothing, that is if you don’t destroy 1/6 of the entire economy, put millions out of work, and eliminate any possibility of non uber rich folk from actually getting medical care.

Diluculo on February 6, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Once the balance of “takers” and “makers” tips towards the “takers” there is no turning back. Just like in VT, where the “takers” have outnumbered the “makers” for years, we ended up with a liberal governor, house and senate. It’s a positive reinforcement scenario where liberal policies attract “takers” and the “takers” vote for more of the same. Single payer is coming to VT soon, and Obama is paving the way for it country wide.

Toussaint on February 6, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Is living in health care purgatory better than hell itself?

Techster64 on February 6, 2014 at 4:47 PM

I would rather the President refrain from breaking the law by legislating from his desk, repeatedly illegally taking it upon himself to amned the law, ignoring separation of powers, bypassing congress, the sole entity empowered to make or change the law.

I would rather the needless pain, suffering, and even death that this law has caused and will continue to cause be avoided and ObamaCare be repealed in its entirety.

thatsafactjack on February 6, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Congress has abdicated it’s constitutional responsibility and along with it’s responsibility, it’s constitutional authority. Boehner would rather grant amnesty to illegal aliens than challenge the POTUS for usurping powers constitutionally reserved to Congress.

oscarwilde on February 6, 2014 at 4:47 PM

When even an Obama favorite like Warren Buffet is bold enough to say “Tear it down and start over” it’s time to “tear it down and start over.”

bw222 on February 6, 2014 at 4:47 PM

President Obama: Let me be clear, I’m delaying these mandates until after I leave office. After that, you won’t have Obama to kick around any more.

WisRich on February 6, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Even the original Zimbabwe had some laws.

tetriskid on February 6, 2014 at 4:48 PM

What a lawless clusterjerk!

rjoco1 on February 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM

As we consider the EpicClusterFark and it’s daily latest revelation(s) of new levels of EpicClusterFarkedness, it’s hilarious to read the usual trolls gloating and telling us to embrace the suck because the EpicClusterFark isn’t going anywhere.

I suppose they have no clue about what the word ‘untenable’ means. Of course, when it comes to the actions of the Obama Administration, they also have little clue as to what the words ‘feckless’, ‘incompetent’, and ‘abuse of power’ means.

While not every health insurance company decided to partner with this feckless Administration and legislation, those that did took the ‘risk’ by accepting the Administration’s contention that people would rush into the exchanges to buy ‘affordable health insurance’ not only in large numbers, but with sufficient demographics to protect those partner insurance companies from the risk of adverse selection.

Buried in the details of the bill (‘You have to pass it to see what is in it…’) is the bailout provisions that effectively rewards / protects those insurance companies over their decision to partner with the Administration on Obamacare. Of course, it wouldn’t really be needed right? ($450M to Humana – and a what, $10-14B exposure in year 1 based on current info?)

Then we have Humana reminding us that…

The company blamed the Obama Administration’s decision late last year to extend grandfathering of individual market plans for the overall deterioration in the risk pool.

… the short sighted politically expedient decision to extend the individual mandate just one year is apparently one of the big reasons for the bailout provision to be needed.

(I believe that even if the Administration didn’t illegally extend the individual mandate, the debacle of the exchanges, the unaffordable ‘affordable’ premiums, and human nature would have contributed to a dismal enrollment and demographics that would cause an entry into a premium death spiral.)

Now, the smartest and brightest who brought forth this policy to increase the EpicClusterFarkedness of the EpicClusterFark want to treble down on this policy by extending the grandfathering of the individual mandate to three years?

Why not at the same time just extend the employer mandate delay another three years too – just to avoid 50+ million people getting cancellation notices regarding their employer-provided insurance plans 60 days prior to this year’s midterm election?

Is there going to be anything other than the taxes, fees, and insurance company bailouts that aren’t waived or delayed further?

If the GOP had any leadership in the House, they would be passing within the next few days a bill that eliminates the ‘risk-corridor’ bailout or limiting the size of the bailout to the amount the Government collects from ‘profitable’ insurance partners. Those companies took a huge risk embracing their greed to partner with the Administration – and they need to pay the price for that risk.

Athos on February 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Would you rather they work out the problems or continue to complain?

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:25 PM

I can see you’re gonna be a lot of fun, Dill.

Tell us, why pass a law that needs to be fixed? Why not just skip having the law entirely so there won’t be a need to fix anything?

NotCoach on February 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Testing

twonicklesworth on February 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Pickle, there are more options here than the two you mentioned…like repeal.

Techster64 on February 6, 2014 at 4:50 PM

It seems Glorious Leader will be extending everytime an election is on the horizon.

Darianis on February 6, 2014 at 4:50 PM

This is the worst buttugly administration. Not sure if they would know how to bake a cake unless we took them to the store and made it for them

ConservativePartyNow on February 6, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Would you rather they work out the problems or continue to complain?

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:25 PM

I can see you’re gonna be a lot of fun, Dill.

Tell us, why pass a law that needs to be fixed? Why not just skip having the law entirely so there won’t be a need to fix anything?

NotCoach on February 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM

One does not “Fix” cancer or the hantavirus, you either destroy them, or they kill you.

oscarwilde on February 6, 2014 at 4:51 PM

I’ve always said that Barky is just throwing darts to acquire his “fixes” for his signature plan. Seems like the darts are being thrown a little faster lately…..

Panic will do that….

JGinGJ on February 6, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Someone put this poser POTUS in jail! I’m sick of him breaking the law and facing no consequences.

sadatoni on February 6, 2014 at 4:54 PM

If Hillary wasn’t planning on running for President in 2016, I think Obama could write an Executive Order giving himself another 4 years and there would be nary a whimper of protest by the GOP and media about it.

albill on February 6, 2014 at 4:54 PM

I suggested repeal, but it’s not just democrats without a will to repeal. See shut down backlash.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:59 PM

This pickle person sounds exactly like HA’s own partisan pajama boy. Just as dumb and twice as obtuse.

BeachBum on February 6, 2014 at 5:00 PM

It’s not going anywhere. So, what is the problem with fixing the problems and making sure those who qualify get coverage?
 
Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM

 
Ever seen someone hurriedly replace a fuel line on an airplane immediately before an international flight?
 
Ever wonder why you haven’t?

rogerb on February 6, 2014 at 5:00 PM

The President of the United States, head of the executive branch of the federal government has repeatedly breached separation of powers, in that he has repeatedly taken it upon himself, illegally, to change the law.

Only congress is empowered to make or change the law.

The Executive branch of government is not empowered to make or change the law.

Obama stands repeatedly in violation of the law in his amendments ( those fixes you mention) to the legislation known as ‘ObamaCare’.

thatsafactjack on February 6, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Yeah, but the obstructionist Republicans are forcing his hand. /

He’s got a pen and a phone, ya know!

Hill60 on February 6, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Legality aside – it doesn’t seem to matter to Obama anyway – such an extension dooms ObamaCare fiscally. Without all those people FORCED into new expensive plans through the exchanges, the system will be bleeding money, insurers will be losing, the “risk corridors” will trigger floodgates of federal money, and insurers will begin leaving the exchanges. The whole thing falls apart, hurting millions in the process.

The “risk corridors” weren’t designed as a broad bailout. Insurers would not participate in the exchanges without them for fear of getting stuck with an older, sicker group of clients whose benefits would exceed their premiums. The Democrats offered these with the idea that if one carrier needed reimbursement, it would come from the “profit tax” on the others in the exchanges. It wasn’t supposed to cost anything because they didn’t plan for adverse selection at all.

Because Obama and the Democrats are stupid and incompetent. I know some people think it was all by design, but they just aren’t that smart.

Adjoran on February 6, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Oh Pickles….

PrettyMooch on February 6, 2014 at 5:02 PM

If Hillary wasn’t planning on running for President in 2016, I think Obama could write an Executive Order giving himself another 4 years and there would be nary a whimper of protest by the GOP and media about it.

albill on February 6, 2014 at 4:54 PM

He can’t do that – its against the law….

ohhh wait…

Defenestratus on February 6, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Come to think of it, let me rephrase:
 
Have you ever seen someone replace a fuel line on an airplane during an international flight?

rogerb on February 6, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Alternative headline: Obama Repeals Obamacare

StubbleSpark on February 6, 2014 at 5:03 PM

I suggested repeal, but it’s not just democrats without a will to repeal. See shut down backlash.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Yes. The Federal Government “shutdown” for two weeks and the world stopped spinning.

Better hope I’m never elected president. Every since person who is labelled as “non-essential” would need to pack their workplace belongings within an hour of me being sworn in.

And thanks to our Dear Leader.. I’d have the precedent.

Defenestratus on February 6, 2014 at 5:05 PM

This pickle person sounds exactly like HA’s own partisan pajama boy. Just as dumb and twice as obtuse.
BeachBum on February 6, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Wouldn’t be surprised if Pickle is a previously-banned MOBY under a new name.

bluegill on February 6, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:25 PM

New troll?

jawkneemusic on February 6, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Happy I’m finally registered, but the whole seniors rule the school thing is kind of dumb.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Would you rather they work out the problems or continue to complain?

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Well, well that didn’t take long to show your team colors.

MontanaMmmm on February 6, 2014 at 5:06 PM

It’s not going anywhere. So, what is the problem with fixing the problems and making sure those who qualify get coverage?

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM

The the problem is that the President is violating the Constitution by modifying the law. This is what dictators do. But liberals have a long history of admiring dictators, so perhaps you’re OK with that.

Hint: The Congress is supposed to make or amend laws, not the President. The President is just supposed to execute the law. It’s called Separation of Powers, and it is fundamental to help hold back tyranny.

ZenDraken on February 6, 2014 at 5:06 PM

It’s not going anywhere. So, what is the problem with fixing the problems and making sure those who qualify get coverage?

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Are you like a lot of other libtards who think the president San do just about whatever he wants regardless of what our laws and constitution says? You do realize he’s not a king right?

jawkneemusic on February 6, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Obunglercare and this regime’s constant meddling in the private economy would be the end of the Democrats if it weren’t for the millions of 3rd world “citizens” that were allowed to swamp this nation. And for what?

Whitey Ford on February 6, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Yes, there is a separation of powers, but the congress is Si divided, you could not get them to agree the sky is blue. Meanwhile, there are problems that can be fixed. Give it three years to clear up the problems instead of complaining and doing nothing about it.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Would you rather they work out the problems or continue to complain?

Personally, I’d rather the President, Nanners Pelosi and his Cabinet have a Press Conference wherein they announce “We’re talentless, scheming idi*ts that don’t deserve to lead the nation”, followed by dousing themselves with gas and a match.

Excluding that: I’d rather they shut the thing down, or get out of the way and let the next Congress do so after the Democrat Mass Extinction in November.

Thank you for your thought-provoking question.
I still prefer the Presidential self-immolation option, but: Who am I to tell Dear Leader what to do?
I mean, other than him WORKING FOR US, and not the reverse….

orangemtl on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Would little Pickle be all right with this president’s actions if he was Republican??

envycat on February 6, 2014 at 5:12 PM

“It’s the law”…or whatever Dear Leader says it is.

d1carter on February 6, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Hint….. you’re supposed to pretend your conservative just a wee bit before you give yourself royally away. lol

MontanaMmmm on February 6, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Didn’t this law have dates written into it? The president does not have the authority to move them unilaterally.

Tea Party sure was right about this murderous fiasco.

forest on February 6, 2014 at 5:14 PM

The United States of America: Laws Optional

BobSagetsRevenge on February 6, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Yes, there is a separation of powers, but the congress is Si divided, you could not get them to agree the sky is blue. Meanwhile, there are problems that can be fixed. Give it three years to clear up the problems instead of complaining and doing nothing about it.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

You are truly lacking in reading comprehension. How would you propose to fix your boy king’s law?? If you read the article you would know that the risk pool is screwed and premiums are going sky high. You’re a moron.

BeachBum on February 6, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Yes, there is a separation of powers, but the congress is Si divided, you could not get them to agree the sky is blue. Meanwhile, there are problems that can be fixed. Give it three years to clear up the problems instead of complaining and doing nothing about it.
 
Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

 
You mean the Congress comprised of duly elected legislators representing the will of the people who sent them there?
 
That Congress?

rogerb on February 6, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Congress? I don’t need no f__king Congress.

COgirl on February 6, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Yes, there is a separation of powers, but the congress is Si divided, you could not get them to agree the sky is blue. Meanwhile, there are problems that can be fixed. Give it three years to clear up the problems instead of complaining and doing nothing about it.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

So separation of powers is all fine and good when everyone agrees on things, but when we disagree, we must abandon the Constitution and rule of law?

Hint: A divided Congress is part of the deal with the Constitution. We (The People) voted to have a divided Congress. If you don’t like it, vote in a one-party Congress.

ZenDraken on February 6, 2014 at 5:21 PM

This suggests that not only does Obama think the 2014 election is going to be a MASSACRE, but that 2016 might even be worse.

So he might as well declare himself King now and dispense with all these “election” things. He doesn’t need Congress anyway, he has a pen and a phone.

And We, The People have a Constitution which includes the 2nd Amendment.

ConstantineXI on February 6, 2014 at 5:21 PM

It’s good to be king. Now where is my whipping boy Johnny?

Brock Robamney on February 6, 2014 at 5:22 PM

The pony express continues it’s “triumphant” march.

Seriously, even if this is undertaken, it would be a temporary solution. The same problems would still exist, just deferred to another day to solve. The president would only do this to save his party’s skin, or at least attempt to do so. If anything it might make it worse because keeping plans that don’t fit the cost of the planned market according to the law will just lead to more mess with dealing with those costs, which might lead to the very thing the Democrats want to avoid (or don’t…I’m not sure).

Perhaps it is time to finally discuss an alternative…one that doesn’t involve governmental bureaucratic incompetence?

zacmidnigh on February 6, 2014 at 5:24 PM

He’s playing with the law to the benefit of his liberal, left wing buddies. This flagrant disregard for the Constitution and the law must stop. If these fools aren’t going to abide by our Constitution, then stop sending our young people to die for it. This government is perverse and sick.

rplat on February 6, 2014 at 5:25 PM

We (the people) voted for president Obama, affordable health care, a second time. He’s doing something to fix the problems. It’s better than complaining and doing nothing.
Other presidents have issued executive orders, changes, not just President Obama.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Meanwhile, there are problems that can be fixed. Give it three years to clear up the problems instead of complaining and doing nothing about it.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Obamacare can’t be fixed. The entire premise of the law is wrong. It’s destroying our healthcare system. I’m not going to use this thread to give you a primer on Obamacare – but I will say that it’s a top-down, authoritarian, Soviet-style economic plan that is destined to fail.

TarheelBen on February 6, 2014 at 5:27 PM

You do realize he’s not a king right?

jawkneemusic on February 6, 2014 at 5:07 PM


BLASPHEMY!!!

BigWyo on February 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Uh, how old are you? You don’t seem to comprehend that the YOUR president is using executive orders to LEGISLATE. Maybe your high school teach you about separation of powers next year.

BeachBum on February 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM

We (the people) voted for president Obama, affordable health care, a second time. He’s doing something to fix the problems. It’s better than complaining and doing nothing.
Other presidents have issued executive orders, changes, not just President Obama.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:26 PM

True. We The People also voted for Congress, and the Congress is divided. That’s what we voted for.

It’s not a pretty process, Pickle, but it’s working the way it’s supposed to work. Dictatorships are a lot nicer that way. No messy disagreements, and inconvenient laws can be swept away as necessary. Funny thing is, most dictators were voted in democratically. Democracy by itself is no guarantee of freedom from tyranny.

Hint: We live in a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

Again: Feel free to vote more Democrats into Congress. You still have that freedom.

ZenDraken on February 6, 2014 at 5:31 PM

We (the people) voted for president Obama, affordable health care, a second time. He’s doing something to fix the problems. It’s better than complaining and doing nothing.
Other presidents have issued executive orders, changes, not just President Obama.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:26 PM

You must meet Non-Partisan. If you already haven’t.
Two peas in a pod.

Jabberwock on February 6, 2014 at 5:37 PM

So, what is your solution, all characters being the same?
Even if republicans take the senate in 2014, there is no way President Obama signs off on repeal.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:38 PM

F**k the Congress.
signed:anyone in the adminisration

docflash on February 6, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Pickle just wants all the trains to run on time.

Like many on the left, such as Thomas Friedman, he romantically longs for a dictator.

Art Vandelay on February 6, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Here’s a sample of what an insurer will need to do to reinstate the cancelled plans that Obama now says they don’t need to cancel:

- re-draft the plans to comply with current State laws and regulations;
- re-draft the contracts with the former health care providers to accept the plans;
- included in this will be either new or the old (unlikely) reimubursement rates;
- oh, this is a good one: reprogram all their computers with the new/old information so that coverage gets covered, payments get paid (enrollee information, provider information, reimbursement rates, addresses, lots of stuff);
- design, draft, approve and print up pamphlets, plan documents, websites (that should be easy, right?) etc. for enrollee consumption;
- oh, another good one: get the people who were cancelled to re-sign up again. Find them. Contact them. Explain to them. Explain again. Sign them up. Get paid.

Oh, almost forgot: get 50 State insurance commissions to approve the new/old plan. Probably a lot more, but you get the idea of what’s involved.

Good luck. (oh, and Hello HA!)

Lance Corvette on February 6, 2014 at 5:44 PM

So, what is your solution, all characters being the same?
Even if republicans take the senate in 2014, there is no way President Obama signs off on repeal.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Interesting.
The President’s EO’s will NOT FIX THE PROBLEM. Only delay and postpone by throwing good money after bad. In the end, the problem will still be there.
The fix is for this Administration to admit there are structural problem and be will to FIX them. Not wax over them.

Jabberwock on February 6, 2014 at 5:44 PM

I see that none of the new batch of liberal trolls have come to this particular thread. I guess they got the briefing from the old liberal trolls.

CurtZHP on February 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM

We (the people) voted for president Obama, affordable health care, a second time. He’s doing something to fix the problems. It’s better than complaining and doing nothing.
Other presidents have issued executive orders, changes, not just President Obama.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Awww jeez. I just don’t even….wow. There aren’t words.

OK, I’ll engage this once. Obama and the Democrats passed a law that have made the situation the law was supposed to address significantly worse. Plus, they lied about what was in the law and what it was intended to do.

They did this over the objections of Republicans who predicted, with remarkable accuracy, the problems that would arise from the new law. The Republicans were called racists, morons, and worse.

So why would a any Republican lift a finger to fix it?

And this is all beside the fact that the premises that the law is based on are fundamentally flawed, so no amount of ‘fixing’ will address the issues with the law.

So tell me, oh eternal nemesis of chris-chan, why it is that Republicans should attempt to fix a law that they never agreed with, and don’t believe will work no matter how many changes are made?

PetecminMd on February 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM

So, what is your solution, all characters being the same?
Even if republicans take the senate in 2014, there is no way President Obama signs off on repeal.

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:38 PM

My solution (and I think a lot of people here would agree), is to FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION! It is our only protection against tyranny.

I understand you want to see results. We may be able to get results by ignoring the Constitution, but the cost will almost certainly be our freedom. And the benefit, if any, will be minimal and temporary.

ZenDraken on February 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Art Vandelay on February 6, 2014 at 5:39 PM

LOL love the nic. And you’re right about Pickle. I personally think he is nonpartisan’s sock puppet.

BeachBum on February 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Pickle on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

President of The United States is mandated under the constitution to “faithfully execute the law”. It is of no consequence whether he agrees with the law or if he thinks that law is working the way he wants it to work, he is mandated to enforce existing law.

The President may ask congress to debate the issue and possibly change the law, but he is forbidden the authority to make those changes himself.

So the President shattering that mandate and trampling the constitution to implement his own agenda, by his will alone, doesn’t bother you.

Noted.

thatsafactjack on February 6, 2014 at 5:46 PM

nteresting quandry for President Hillary, should she win 2016 and the GOP have majorities in the House and Senate. If this thing continues to puke jobs and affordable insurance coverage, while costing way more than originally promised,, would she dare veto a Congressional bill to repeal and replace?

butch on February 6, 2014 at 4:33 PM

While I don’t believe Hillary has the slightest chance of getting through primary, my answe to this hypothetical and it’s counterpart for the other more likely IDemocrats is “you bet the veto will come.”

The alternative is giving up government power. No Democrat will ever do that. Ever. Particularly considering that this Democrat, as all, will have the aid of a fully propagandist media covering for any act. Said media will helpfully guide toward a solution that will do nothing but steal even more power for the government, accomplished with the assistance of establishment hacks in the GOP.

No, now if you want a fair question then that would be which potential Republican Presidents would accept the challenge of tearing down this monstrosity.

Gingotts on February 6, 2014 at 5:47 PM

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