Newest GOP debt-ceiling demand: Undoing cuts to military benefits that they agreed to two months ago

posted at 5:01 pm on February 6, 2014 by Allahpundit

A worthy cause, but the real cause here is saving face. After the Keystone/ObamaCare bailout “demands” imploded, they needed a back-up that would/could/should appeal to the entire caucus. They don’t want to give in to Obama and Reid by doing a clean debt-ceiling hike, but they may have no choice since there’s virtually nothing Boehner can get 218 Republicans to agree on by way of a new demand. Some House conservatives don’t want to vote to raise the debt ceiling no matter how much leadership sweetens the pot. Others thought Keystone wasn’t sweet enough because it looks like Obama’s going to cave on that anyway. And others thought the “risk corridor” repeal wasn’t sweet enough because, if you believe CBO, that’ll actually be a moneymaker for the feds this year. Time for Plan B, then: Let’s get rid of the cut to cost-of-living adjustments for military salaries under the Ryan/Murray budget that passed before New Year’s. More money for the troops will surely shake free 218 Republican votes and force Senate Dems into a tough floor vote on whether to accept the new demand.

Won’t it?

“Right now, Jesus himself couldn’t be the speaker and get 218 Republicans behind something, so I think Speaker Boehner is trying his best to come up with a plan that can get close to that,” said Rep. Patrick J. Tiberi (R-Ohio), a longtime Boehner ally…

Several Democratic aides, who requested anonymity in order to discuss internal matters, said House Democratic leaders will probably balk if Boehner moves ahead with the plan, since Democrats have insisted that they will not negotiate over the debt ceiling. But they did not rule out the possibility of some Democrats supporting such legislation, amid the clamor in both parties to restore the cuts.

This week, aides to Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) said the Senate will soon bring forward its own legislation to restore the benefit cuts, taking up a spending bill sponsored by Sen. Bernard Sanders (I-Vt.), the chairman of the Veterans’ Affairs Committee. House Republican aides said Reid’s overlap with Boehner’s potential plan is helpful, especially as Republican leaders look for a debt-limit demand that could win Democratic votes…

One key concern raised late Wednesday by House Republicans: making sure a restoration of benefits is balanced by cuts to other federal programs, in order to not have the measure be cast as a spending increase by watchdog conservative groups that are closely watching Boehner’s playbook. There have also been grumbles about whether a change to the budget deal would violate the carefully crafted terms hashed out in December by Congress’s budget chairmen, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.).

Reid also took a hardline “no negotiations” approach during the shutdown, you’ll recall, rejecting a bunch of House bills that would have restored funding for discrete parts of the government but not for ObamaCare. Fund everything or we’ll fund nothing, he insisted. The sole exception: He passed a bill right before the shutdown began to keep money flowing to the military so that troops wouldn’t miss a paycheck. Boehner’s counting on the same thing happening now. Both for tea partiers reluctant to approve a debt-ceiling increase and Democrats reluctant to accept any Republican demand, even if it’s a demand that they’re eventually going to act on themselves, it’s bad politics to say no to the troops. Boehner thinks, or maybe hopes, that his antagonists on either side will choke on military pay. Will they?

If Boehner can’t get 218 for this, what’s Plan C? Ye olde balanced-budget amendment, which Democrats will surely reject? Or do we just cut to the chase already and do a clean debt-ceiling hike like everyone expects? Exit quotation from WaPo: “Boehner’s inner circle acknowledged Wednesday that a clean debt-limit hike — without strings attached — could be in the offing.”


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We’ll extend the debt ceiling if you agree to completely eliminate our one success: sequester.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Jesus would just drag some out by the ear onto the ocean then let go, when enough were swimming he would get his votes.

OregonPolitician on February 6, 2014 at 5:05 PM

That said, these cuts are the first and only cuts in sequester that should have been restored. Which is, of course, why they are the last to be restored.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 5:06 PM

“Right now, Jesus himself couldn’t be the speaker and get 218 Republicans behind something…”

Some might consider this disunity as a reflection on Speaker Boehner’s “leadership”.

novaculus on February 6, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Why do they even bother? Why not just surrender now and give up any pretense of fighting back? Gumby has more spine than the GOP.

307wolverine on February 6, 2014 at 5:07 PM

O_o

Good Lt on February 6, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Exit quotation from WaPo: “Boehner’s inner circle acknowledged Wednesday that a clean debt-limit hike — without strings attached — could be in the offing.”

That’s what’ll end up happening. Harry Reid will gladly call Boehner’s bluff on this. And what the hell kind of demand is that anyway? Undoing cuts to military benefits? Why did you vote to cut them in the first place? And just out of sheer morbid curiosity, where does that leave the Ryan-Murray budget? Does it now increase spending even more than it already did?

Doughboy on February 6, 2014 at 5:08 PM

“My pal Johnny can’t do it so logically, Jesus couldn’t either”
-Rep. Patrick J. Tiberi (R-DRR)

rihar on February 6, 2014 at 5:08 PM

“My pal Johnny can’t do it so logically, Jesus couldn’t either”
-Rep. Patrick J. Tiberi (R-DRR)

rihar on February 6, 2014 at 5:08 PM

It’s the Jimmy Carter / Barack Obama incompetency defense.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Fail…new Speaker, please…Anyone w/ no backbone need not apply

Static21 on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Exit quotation from WaPo: “Boehner’s inner circle acknowledged Wednesday that a clean debt-limit hike — without strings attached — could be in the offing.”

No sh-t?
Lol.

PrettyMooch on February 6, 2014 at 5:11 PM

By 2016 they’ll be extending the debt ceiling if the Democrats agree to their demands to paint the Senate restrooms green instead of blue.

Then cave on even that.

ConstantineXI on February 6, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Mr. Speaker, you’re no Jesus — and either is your buddy in the Oval Office.

brentspolemics on February 6, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Fail…new Speaker, please…Anyone w/ no backbone need not apply

Static21 on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Trey Gowdy for Speaker!

ConstantineXI on February 6, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Fail…new Speaker, please…Anyone w/ no backbone need not apply

Static21 on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Yeah, it’s like every RINO’s been through a blues song in real life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVVOn5a4ILo

brentspolemics on February 6, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Mr. Speaker, you’re no Jesus — and either is your buddy in the Oval Office.

brentspolemics on February 6, 2014 at 5:13 PM

I seriously doubt that the IQ of Juan Boner + the IQ of Teh Won converted to heat would be enough to melt the ice on the parking lot outside.

ConstantineXI on February 6, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Is it too late to bring back that old “No Taxation Without Representation” meme?

Von Kleist on February 6, 2014 at 5:17 PM

“Right now, Jesus himself couldn’t be the speaker and get 218 Republicans behind something, so I think Speaker Boehner is trying his best to come up with a plan that can get close to that,” said Rep. Patrick J. Tiberi (R-Ohio), a longtime Boehner ally…

So this dipwad now equates Boehner with Jesus. I think he has confused Jesus with Judas Iscariot … … or Bozo the Clown.

VorDaj on February 6, 2014 at 5:19 PM

So, bottom line is, even though we have control of
The purse through our authority under the
Constitution, we will let the Democrats roll
Us.

Brock Robamney on February 6, 2014 at 5:20 PM

A worthy cause, but the real cause here is saving face.

Except that it’s not going to save face either for the feckless GOP House Leadership.

They never should have let the reduction in military benefits be part of the budget agreement (Thank you Paul Ryan). It was a betrayal to those who served and should have been beneath the GOP leadership to even consider.

On the Democrat side, both with the President and Dingy Harry, they see themselves, backed by the lapdog media / Ministry of ‘Truth’, in a win-win scenario as they seek not only a clean increase in the nation’s credit limit, but a large (open?) increase in that credit limit.

While the move to reinstate the lost benefits is needed, as is the need to eliminate / close the ‘risk corridor’ bailouts, or even legislate the approval of Keystone XL are all valid efforts – beyond having new items to campaign on if Obama or Reid reject or veto those efforts, the bottom line remains that this cadre of GOP House leaders has no real option other than to embrace their usual surrender because that’s what they’ve said they would do since late October.

All the GOP House Leadership has done, beyond bad decisions, is dither and fret rather than pushing their cases and putting the pressure on the Democrats. They seem to have a fear of real leadership – preferring to wait and react even when waiting to react gives them no real options other than to just surrender.

That’s why a major change in leadership is needed. We don’t need defeatists working to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this November. We don’t need ‘leaders’ who are afraid of being castigated by the sycophants in the media or see that the best course forward is ‘going along to get along’.

Athos on February 6, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Um, not to bring up a tired buzzword or anything, but I’d like to ask the Speaker to defend our “freedom” by combating the most effective tactic there is in diminishing it: the accumulation of public debt. Thanks, Boehner…you da man!

brentspolemics on February 6, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Right now, Jesus himself couldn’t be the speaker and get 218 Republicans behind something,

Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there Matthew 21:12 NIV

Unless Jesus returns between now and November, it looks like it’s up to us to drive them out.

Flora Duh on February 6, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Boehner is about as useful as a rubber crutch in a polio ward.

VorDaj on February 6, 2014 at 5:22 PM

The Navy was right when they washed Crying John out after only 6 weeks.

VorDaj on February 6, 2014 at 5:23 PM

But next time…next time we’ll really stick it to ‘em.

NY2SC on February 6, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Jesus didn’t need 218. He changed the world with 12.

gryphon202 on February 6, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Mr. Speaker, you’re no Jesus — and either is your buddy in the Oval Office.

brentspolemics on February 6, 2014 at 5:13 PM

I seriously doubt that the IQ of Juan Boner + the IQ of Teh Won converted to heat would be enough to melt the ice on the parking lot outside.

ConstantineXI on February 6, 2014 at 5:17 PM

I hear you. With their apparent IQs on public display daily, it’s hard to understand how we got Bonehead or Teh Won in the first place. But then I remember watching “Idiocracy” about 10 years ago, laughing, and thinking that “it’ll never get that bad. Nah!” Good times, those were, good times…

brentspolemics on February 6, 2014 at 5:28 PM

It’s very sad. The combination of the fascist radical Left with a demagogue leader, an uninformed apathetic electorate, and a GOP leadership of incompetent boobs has been the perfect storm for this nation.

Art Vandelay on February 6, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Wow! The Right Scoop has got some devastating/inspiring videos up today about the IRS “Not a smidgen” of corruption story…

d1carter on February 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Jesus would just drag some out by the ear onto the ocean then let go, when enough were swimming he would get his votes.

OregonPolitician on February 6, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Whoohoo! Good to see you here, newbie–been looking for ya!

lovingmyUSA on February 6, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Send the weasel packing already.

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2014 at 5:31 PM

…Why did you vote to cut them in the first place?

Doughboy on February 6, 2014 at 5:08 PM

So they could take credit for restoring them. They’re writing the campaign commercials now.

Fenris on February 6, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Flora Duh on February 6, 2014 at 5:22 PM

A nom I’m delighted to see! Wonderful to see you, Flora. :) I hope you and yours are well.

thatsafactjack on February 6, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Indeed, Paladin. Can’t be soon enough.

thatsafactjack on February 6, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Aaron Blake ‏@AaronBlakeWP 5h

Boehner: “Mother Theresa is a saint now, but if we wanted to attach that to the debt ceiling, we probably couldn’t get 218 votes.”

canopfor on February 6, 2014 at 5:35 PM

I think he pronounced it Hay-Zeus.

Flange on February 6, 2014 at 5:39 PM

The clown show we call congress continues unabated, lead by the crying orange ringleader.

The GOPe is hopeless, I can’t even be outraged, surprised, or flabbergasted by the utter incompetence any longer.

Now can we start a 3rd party? Please.

captnjoe on February 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Fail…new Speaker, please…Anyone w/ no backbone need not apply

Static21 on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM -

http://firethespeaker.com/marklevin

diogenes on February 6, 2014 at 5:43 PM

No third parties–that would be the ultimate capitulation to the Left.

The GOP must be conquered from within by conservatives and all of the current leadership removed from their positions.

Art Vandelay on February 6, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Ttal.Failure.of.Leadership.

Put it up clean and let the dems and liberal repubs pass it. If it doesn’t so be it. That’s how it’s supposed to work Boehner. Step down already, you are too weak to lead.

DanMan on February 6, 2014 at 5:50 PM

No third parties–that would be the ultimate capitulation to the Left.

The GOP must be conquered from within by conservatives and all of the current leadership removed from their positions.

Art Vandelay on February 6, 2014 at 5:44 PM

This…one million times this.

Transforming something once great, from within — it’s worked very, very well so far for the commies endeavoring to destroy this nation. Had they led an outside attack on the Democrat Party, they’d have failed long ago. We ought to follow their lead. You can learn a lot from your enemy, after all. We must, must transform the GOP from within.

brentspolemics on February 6, 2014 at 5:50 PM

So our forefathers should all have stayed in the Whig Party?

captnjoe on February 6, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Simply un-doing the cut is inadequate – that simply puts things back where they were a couple months ago. Effectively… the clean increase that Obama wants.

Midas on February 6, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Fear of a 3rd party is simply a lack of vision.

I am not saying we must have a full functioning local to federal slate of candidates for every office.

A true conservative party of patriots could run local candidates where possible, congressional candidates as well, and wield its voting block power to influence the candidate choices of the GOPe.

A defined block that can control an election with candidates or endorsements.

We need to separate the fundamental constitutional values from the chaff.

captnjoe on February 6, 2014 at 5:56 PM

that POS is no leader!

KOOLAID2 on February 6, 2014 at 5:58 PM

AP Politics ‏@AP_Politics 5m

GOP Speaker Boehner: ‘We’re not going to default’ on debt, @APAndrewTaylor writes. http://apne.ws/1fLXpSy
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/boehner-were-not-going-default-debt

canopfor on February 6, 2014 at 6:03 PM

GOP Speaker Boehner: ‘We’re not going to default’ on debt,

…yet, we will leave that for our children.

finished it for you, Boner.

captnjoe on February 6, 2014 at 6:06 PM

So our forefathers should all have stayed in the Whig Party?

captnjoe on February 6, 2014 at 5:50 PM

How did the Whig Party collapse, did it have anything to do with Republicans, and is the GOP at that point now? If so, then I’m all ears. But the way the jig is rigged today, my very strong sense and fear is that a third party from the right would cement the left’s control for the foreseeable future.

Just look at any contest in which a third party candidate has participated. He/she always, always takes votes from the GOP candidate.

Do we need GOP candidates who are more conservative and making it into public office? Why, yes, yes we do. Are we getting what we need by running third party candidates? Why, no, no we aren’t.

brentspolemics on February 6, 2014 at 6:15 PM

GOP Speaker Boehner: ‘We’re not going to default’ on debt,

…yet, we will leave that for our children.

finished it for you, Boner.

captnjoe on February 6, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Don’t be absurd. Our children can’t pay off all this out of control spending. Our grandkids and great grandkids are going have to pony up too.

Happy Nomad on February 6, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Nomad

True, sadly sooooo true.

captnjoe on February 6, 2014 at 6:22 PM

If you stopped trying to lead republicans to places they don’t want to while having no strategic game plan then maybe you’d have a better time of it.

The issue is that the democrats keep out maneuvering you. And our little schemes tend to involve giving the democrats exactly what they want.

This immigration reform idea for example… remind who wants this more? Oh that’s right… democrats. So why are you pushing it so hard? Because they pushed it so hard they pushed your industry allies to push YOU to do it. Which means you idea is actually THEIR idea.

Which is why many feel there is a crisis of leadership here. You don’t a plan. And leaders need to have a plan.

Karmashock on February 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM

brentspolemics on February 6, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Apparently, you missed this:

Fear of a 3rd party is simply a lack of vision.

I am not saying we must have a full functioning local to federal slate of candidates for every office.

A true conservative party of patriots could run local candidates where possible, congressional candidates as well, and wield its voting block power to influence the candidate choices of the GOPe.

A defined block that can control an election with candidates or endorsements.

Now tell me again how we are dooooomed unless we all play along with the rigged GOPe party structure.

captnjoe on February 6, 2014 at 6:26 PM

This week, aides to Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) said the Senate will soon bring forward its own legislation to restore the benefit cuts, taking up a spending bill sponsored by Sen. Bernard Sanders (I-Vt.), the chairman of the Veterans’ Affairs Committee.

How on God’s green earth did Bernie Sanders become chairman of the Vets Committee?

Bitter Clinger on February 6, 2014 at 6:36 PM

How on God’s green earth did Bernie Sanders become chairman of the Vets Committee?

Bitter Clinger on February 6, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Caesars Palace)- in his infinite ‘wisdom’.

Athos on February 6, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Boehner has been a lame duck ever since he cried on Pelosi Galore’s shoulder when he got the gavel. He has done as much harm to the country as Reid.

ultracon on February 6, 2014 at 7:07 PM

Smart move by John Boehner..:)

Dire Straits on February 6, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Gumby has more spine than the GOP.

307wolverine on February 6, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Don’t you dare compare Gumby to the GOP!!!

ladyingray on February 6, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Trey Gowdy for Speaker!

ConstantineXI on February 6, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Okay, now I’m have heart palpitations…

ladyingray on February 6, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Any hope of Boehner losing the primary? He’s got two challengers that I know of.

cat_owner on February 6, 2014 at 7:22 PM

With the “Right now, Jesus himself…” hyperbole in support of Boehner, the pols are merely following Bill Clinton’s lead after his quote on Obama “It is my opinion that no president, not Barack Obama, not Bill Clinton, not anybody who served before us… nobody who had this job could have repaired that much damage to this economy in just four years.”

Seems we’d be in the same boat without ‘em. Boot them out, then.

{Meh, they’re one in the same.}

socalcon on February 6, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Fail…new Speaker, please…Anyone w/ no backbone need not apply

Static21 on February 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Allen West
Trey Gowdy
Ted Cruz

freedomfirst on February 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Trey Gowdy for Speaker!

ConstantineXI on February 6, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Hey. I like the cut of your jib.

freedomfirst on February 6, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Set the debt ceiling at one thousand hundred trillion billion dollars and be done with it once and for all. These silly games every few months are getting really boring.

Fortunately, Boehner is drunk most of the time. Could do real damage if he ever sobers up.

Constantine XI – Love your screen name. Oh, and you did a great job on the walls of Constantinople on May 29, 1453. Salute!

FortyTwo on February 6, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Unless Jesus returns between now and November, it looks like it’s up to us to drive them out.

Flora Duh on February 6, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Its been 2,000+ years. The man is dead and won’t be commin’ back.

Bandit13 on February 6, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Be very, very quite, the GOP is hunting for military votes.

This is just posturing for their pro military image.
Right before a big election year, the GOP votes to cut military benefits and belatedly remember that they need that military vote. So now, they are showing how much they support the military by protesting the very thing they voted for.

Maybe they will at least be able to restore what they destroyed.

Ibanez Lotus on February 6, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Republican leadership disgusts me with their vain impotence.
Many of these veterans congress so blithely mentions and apallingly disrespects, whom by the way, are the ONLY government employees to have actually earned their pay and benefits, are still in their prime employment years; crushed between a dismal job market and demands for ever-more subsidizing of those who couldn’t last a single day in the life of a soldier.

fresh air on February 6, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Republican leadership disgusts me with their vain impotence.
fresh air on February 6, 2014 at 10:29 PM

AGREE!!!!! THEY ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND I AM STILL OUTRAGED!!!!

We complained and they are trying to fix it and that infuriates me no end for some reason!!!!!

OUTRAGED!!!! AAAAAAaaaaaarrrrrrggggggghhhh!!!!!

Game over man, just game fricking over. If Mr.Cheetos faced smoking crybaby betwetter thinks he can win my approval by actually listening to my complaints and acting on them he’s out of his mind because I am OUTRAGED!!!!!!!

I have an outrage nosebleed! I need more canned cling peaches for my bunker!!!! OUTRAGED!!!

V7_Sport on February 6, 2014 at 11:16 PM

First they screwed vets by cutting PROMISED and EARNED benefits, then they try and restore them later. It’s like battered wife syndrome, played out on a larger scale.

“I swear I won’t take away what I promised you honey, just give me one more chance!”

When Harry Reid ends up looking like the good guy here by restoring benefits to vets that were cut by Republicans, we are truly screwed. One-party rule indeed.

Two sides of the same coin…

dinahmoehumm on February 7, 2014 at 8:02 AM