Democrats now coordinating “at the highest levels of the party” to take down Christie

posted at 2:21 pm on February 6, 2014 by Allahpundit

I’m sure his friend Barack will put a stop to this right quick.

There’s not much they can do to force him out as governor. A smoking gun putting him at the heart of Bridgegate would do it, but even the lead Democrat probing the scandal in Jersey says he’s seen no evidence of that. (Yet?) Plan B, then: Make Christie so radioactive to the rest of the GOP that he ends up stepping down as head of the Republican Governors Association.

That strategy will be on display Thursday in Texas, where Mr. Christie is scheduled to meet with Republican donors as the chairman of the Republican Governors Association.

In the kind of scene that Democrats said would play out wherever Mr. Christie traveled this year, Texas party activists will hold a news conference denouncing him and linking his woes to the state’s leading Republican candidate for governor, Greg Abbott…

There is a growing recognition among governors association donors and state Republican officials that the investigations surrounding Mr. Christie and his inner circle were making it harder for him to operate as the organization’s public face…

Democratic National Committee members have emailed party officials in New Jersey recommending language to use, should Mr. Christie step down from the post, according to a person who has seen the correspondence. They suggested that the Democrats make clear that resigning as chairman of the organization was a good first step but did not go far enough.

It’s already reached the point where his own aides won’t tell reporters where his RGA fundraisers are being held for fear that the media scrum will cause a headache for the governor he’s trying to “help.” If he were anyone else (except John McCain or Lindsey Graham), news of Democrats conspiring to kneecap him before he runs for president would be a rallying point for conservatives to ride to his defense. I’ve seen “They’ll tell you who they fear” comments in every thread we’ve ever posted about lefties mobbing up on a would-be Republican nominee in the past, but not Christie. There is evidence that this is helping him win support within the party — the WSJ ran a poll just yesterday showing him up 10 points among “core Republicans” since October — but, for what little it’s worth, I’m not seeing it at all online and only a tiny bit on talk radio. But then, Christie doesn’t need conservatives to like him; all he needs them to do is circle the wagons enough to let him keep his RGA job. If he’s forced to quit that, I think he’s done for 2016. Like I said once before, how can you carry your party’s banner into battle in 2016 if you’re too tainted to carry it to fundraisers for other candidates now?

Christie’s other problem is that he has plenty of powerful enemies within the party itself. The Times notes that GOP chieftains are watching Bobby Jindal and Rick Perry in particular, both of whom have feuded with Christie privately over RGA positions, to see if they take the baton from Democrats and call for him to step down. Jindal’s refused so far; in fact, the most prominent Republican to do so is defeated Virginia gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli, who also has bad blood with Christie. Note, though, that Perry won’t be appearing at Christie’s fundraisers in Texas this week, and Jindal’s mind is apt to change if/when he decides he’s running for president. Which, of course, is the real point of the Democrats’ strategy: There are plenty of big-name GOPers who, for selfish reasons or because they’re holding grudges, have reason to take down Christie as well. The longer Democrats can make noise, the more justification Jindal et al. will have to point to it at some point down the line, after the mini-backlash in Christie’s favor among GOP voters has cooled, and say “he’s become too much of a liability.” Democrats are really just setting up his primary opponents for the spike here.


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Recall the Palin rule: Democrats seek to destroy those whom they fear. Or does that rule only apply to “true conservatives”?

Guy Benson on February 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM

According to you, did it ever apply to Palin?

rrpjr on February 6, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 3:59 PM

if you haven’t already just go ahead and switch to the dem party maybe you can pull them back to the center instead of wishing that the GOP was a center-left leaning party.

unseen on February 6, 2014 at 4:04 PM

I’m an independent and I don’t care for Christie, but here’s my advice FWIW:

Don’t do anything about him right now. Don’t circle the wagons, don’t dump him, don’t comment on what is happening.

Most of the country doesn’t give a fying fluck about Bridgegate.

myiq2xu on February 6, 2014 at 4:06 PM

I don’t agree with the dems very often, but this time, I thank them.
Libs are spending their money to do conservatives bidding!
Thanks, libs!

crash72 on February 6, 2014 at 4:07 PM

hey here’s a thought

why aren’t we coordinating attacks on Hillary the same way?

That’s why we won’t have a prayer in the near future in national elections– they play to win at all costs, we play patty cake

thurman on February 6, 2014 at 4:11 PM

TruCons were, are, and will continue to be the best allies the Political Left in America have.

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 3:59 PM

And, that’s why Reagan won 48 states, huh, genius.

kingsjester on February 6, 2014 at 4:12 PM

…you think the media will help?

KOOLAID2 on February 6, 2014 at 4:24 PM

I’ve seen “They’ll tell you who they fear” comments in every thread we’ve ever posted about lefties mobbing up on a would-be Republican nominee in the past, but not Christie.

I’ll admit that this suggests that they fear him. I just have no idea why they would. Then again, leftists have never been the most rational bunch. If they were, they wouldn’t be leftists, now would they?

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Recall the Palin rule: Democrats seek to destroy those whom they fear. Or does that rule only apply to “true conservatives”?

Guy Benson on February 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM

So now that it serves your goals, you want the rule to apply? What a friggin’ hypocrite you are, Guy.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Would it be wrong of me to wish the Dims good luck with this effort?

(Not that they’ll need it; Christie seems to be on a self-destruct path anyway).

AZCoyote on February 6, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Democrats now coordinating at the highest levels to stop Christie

A crushing blow for Christie, all the people he likes most, Democrats, have turned on him. ‘Whoever saw that coming?’ said Charlie Brown to Lucy for the 10,000th time.

RJL on February 6, 2014 at 4:29 PM

There are plenty of big-name GOPers who, for selfish reasons or because they’re holding grudges, have reason to take down Christie as well.

And if the roles were reversed, Chris “looking out for number one” Christie would have long ago thrown them under the bus. It is a testament to the character of Christie’s foes within the GOP that there hasn’t already been a stampede to pile on.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 4:32 PM

A crushing blow for Christie, all the people he likes most, Democrats, have turned on him. ‘Whoever saw that coming?’ said Charlie Brown to Lucy for the 10,000th time.

RJL on February 6, 2014 at 4:29 PM

The only surprise (and it really is a surprise to me) is that they didn’t wait until after he secured the nomination like they did with Romney and McCain.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Given Reagan’s(my favorite president, after Eisenhower) center-right, mixed record as governor of California, he never would have made it past the TruCons in the primary to win 48 states today. Ironic given the fact that Reagan ranks right behind Jesus Christ in their estimation.

And it to save you all the trouble, just copy and paste this in your response:

“Traitor! Traitor! TRAITOR! TRAITOR!”

After all, it is the usual response to any HotAir center-right commentator or every Republican politican whose name is not Ted Cruz or Sarah Palin made by the Trucons on this site

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM

I’ll admit that this suggests that they fear him. I just have no idea why they would.
besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Because Christie is closest to the median general election voter of the potential Republican nominees.

BubbaHoTep on February 6, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Christie must be wondering where all the love has gone.

“Didn’t they all think I was a breath of fresh air just a few years ago? I tell it like it is!”

Never trust the MSM. Never. You think he would’ve known that after McCain. But guys like them love the attention. Too late to complain bub!

NY2SC on February 6, 2014 at 4:40 PM

left fears him because places like this push him making them think hes a hot commodity.
they have a false fear with christie.
hes never had a chance at the nomination.
no matter how many times people have said hes useless the pundits,again, took it upon themselves to parse our feelings and mold them into their desires.

dmacleo on February 6, 2014 at 4:40 PM

hes never had a chance at the nomination.

dmacleo on February 6, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Yup. I just can’t see a northeastern Republican governor ever getting the nomination.

NY2SC on February 6, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Because Christie is closest to the median general election voter of the potential Republican nominees.

BubbaHoTep on February 6, 2014 at 4:39 PM

He would virtually guarantee a Democrat victory. Which, presumably, they desire.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Yup. I just can’t see a northeastern Republican governor ever getting the nomination.

NY2SC on February 6, 2014 at 4:45 PM

doesn’t matter, he never had a chance.

dmacleo on February 6, 2014 at 4:51 PM

He’s getting alinskied by experts.

Viator on February 6, 2014 at 4:59 PM

All of the noise about Christie is just much ado about nothing. He will not be the nominee.

Jindal? Terribly boring speaker with pro-amnesty views. Perry? The guy named his cowboy boots.

Nominees for P and VP should be Cruz, Walker and Lee – in any order and in any combination of two of the three.

FortyTwo on February 6, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM

As a Reagan Conservative, who cast his first vote for him in 1980, allow me to say, noobie, you’re fuller than a goose.

kingsjester on February 6, 2014 at 5:15 PM

I just wish the rest of the wildebeests would learn a lesson when they see one of their own getting devoured by the predators.

But they probably won’t. They’ll keep on reaching across the aisle.

Cleombrotus on February 6, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM
Moby already. That didn’t take long.

flackcatcher on February 6, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Given Reagan’s(my favorite president, after Eisenhower) center-right, mixed record as governor of California, he never would have made it past the TruCons in the primary to win 48 states today. Ironic given the fact that Reagan ranks right behind Jesus Christ in their estimation.

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM

I love this argument. It brings a smile to my face every time, as I think about Romney, McCain, GWB, Bob Dole and GHWB winning the last seven nominations.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Wow. Democrats eating their own during election
Season. Who would’ve thunk it?

Brock Robamney on February 6, 2014 at 5:25 PM

So again I ask, why is it the Dems hate Christie?
GuitarSlinger on February 6, 2014 at 2:55 PM

One name: Hillary

Cleombrotus on February 6, 2014 at 5:27 PM

There’s not much they can do to force him out as governor.

I doubt that’s the objective. He’s of much more use to them if he remains in office, -broken, denigrated and disgraced.

slickwillie2001 on February 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM

After all, it is the usual response to any HotAir center-right commentator or every Republican politican whose name is not Ted Cruz or Sarah Palin made by the Trucons on this site

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Damn, we let more idiots in that think because you don’t support their politics that you must be a purist.

No, sweetie- it makes you ideological. Something I bet you are quite familiar being.

melle1228 on February 6, 2014 at 5:52 PM

I love this argument. It brings a smile to my face every time, as I think about Romney, McCain, GWB, Bob Dole and GHWB winning the last seven nominations.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 5:23 PM

He, He.. It is the same idiocy who says “sit down, shut up, and get to the back of the bus.”

I mean non “true-cons” are doing so well for us. What’s the debt again?

melle1228 on February 6, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Meh. Christie won’t even work to get rid of Andy Cuomo. Didn’t work to stop Cory Booker. He won’t do anything to get rid of O-Care or move the conservative movement forward. Let him stay in Jersey.

Iblis on February 6, 2014 at 6:00 PM

It’s a plot so Christie gets the sympathy vote and is the nominee. Christie will have a hard time winning nationwide, especially since we’ve already tried the RINO’s with McCain and Romney.

bflat879 on February 6, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Christies Bridgegate is a national tragedy. IRS was no big deal and Fast & Furious was really started by President Bush.

kevino on February 6, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Recall the Palin rule: Democrats seek to destroy those whom they fear. Or does that rule only apply to “true conservatives”?

Guy Benson on February 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Really? What part of the “transparency” of the dems don’t you understand? This is a squirrel, and is so apparent that you would have to be blind not to see it. Christie is HATED by the base….

Oh, and Crispy Crème shouldn’t even be MENTIONED in the same sentence as Palin. That man is so thin-skinned he isn’t even lasting thru this itty-bitty scandal…

lovingmyUSA on February 6, 2014 at 6:12 PM

After all, it is the usual response to any HotAir center-right commentator or every Republican politican whose name is not Ted Cruz or Sarah Palin made by the Trucons on this site

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM

I don’t think “trucon” means what you think it means…Is that you Boner?

lovingmyUSA on February 6, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 – I disagree that Reagan couldn’t make it in today’s GOP Reagan had something most Republican candidates don’t have today, principles and ideals. He could articulate those principles and ideals, in such a way that he could persuade those who might look at one decision and decide not to vote for him. He didn’t do things to get votes, he got votes because he could tell people why he did the things he did.

I’d also disagree with the insinuation that Christian fundamentalists run the Republican Party, or the tea party. The tea party, for the most part, is conservative based on fiscal issues, not social issues. The fact that they’re being painted as extreme is because Democrats (and establishment Republicans) know they have a sound message than will resonate with the voters so they’re trying to marginalize them, just like the Democrats marginalized Romney. This marginalization has been going on for 4 years and the tea party is still strong. It’s strong because it is grassroots and the ways they’re trying to marginalize them are over the top and people recognize it.

It will get worse, the Democrats will do whatever it takes to win and the establishment Republicans like the cushy D.C. lifestyle. It should be exciting. Christie is the establishment candidate because, if he’s elected, nothing changes.

bflat879 on February 6, 2014 at 6:20 PM

The Dems are actually doing actual conservatives a favor. They are just too dumb to know that. So fling away dems and media (o.k. redundant I know). Gee Chris, and you thought they were your buddies. How does their rears taste Chris?

Minnfidel on February 6, 2014 at 6:21 PM

This “moby” is the faculty advisor of the College Republicans at the university he teaches in, and has voted Republican from the first election he has ever taken part in (1998) onwards. And for the record, I think Obama has been a disaster as president.

I signed up to comment on Hot Air because there need to be more center-right voices on the comment threads. There are have been WAY too many cyber Robespierres on these threads who think they alone can define what is an acceptable political position, and then to cast anyone who disagrees into the hellfire of RINOs and other vermin. The comment threads cannot become a TruCon echo chamber, especially since these self-proclaimed “Reagan Conservatives” hold in contempt Reagan’s rule of not speaking ill of fellow Republicans

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM

With Christie out of the way, they’ll push for Jeb.

annoyinglittletwerk on February 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Then Boner must be your hero!

lovingmyUSA on February 6, 2014 at 6:28 PM

With Christie out of the way, they’ll push for Jeb.

annoyinglittletwerk on February 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM

And then Rubio…it’s in the stars ya know…

lovingmyUSA on February 6, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Moby.

BigWyo on February 6, 2014 at 6:29 PM

The tea party started out as a fiscally conservative movement, but has since been dominated by social conservatives to a negative effect.

And go ahead and keep believing that the GOP should always run the most conservative candidate in every race. Let a million O’Donnells, Angles,and Akins bloom. That sort of thinking got us a Democratic Senate with the repulsive Harry Reid still in charge.

Ronald Reagan was a great, charismatic leader. That would not mater to the TruCon echo chamber on Hot Air. His 8-year record as governor of California was filled with FAR too many heresies. Not to mention his former membership in the Democratic Party

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 6:36 PM

The tea party started out as a fiscally conservative movement, but has since been dominated by social conservatives to a negative effect.

And go ahead and keep believing that the GOP should always run the most conservative candidate in every race. Let a million O’Donnells, Angles,and Akins bloom. That sort of thinking got us a Democratic Senate with the repulsive Harry Reid still in charge.

Ronald Reagan was a great, charismatic leader. That would not mater to the TruCon echo chamber on Hot Air. His 8-year record as governor of California was filled with FAR too many heresies. Not to mention his former membership in the Democratic Party

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 6:36 PM

So by all means let’s keep running the McCain’s and Romney’s of the party. It’s worked so well.

Minnfidel on February 6, 2014 at 6:41 PM

The tea party started out as a fiscally conservative movement, but has since been dominated by social conservatives to a negative effect.

And go ahead and keep believing that the GOP should always run the most conservative candidate in every race. Let a million O’Donnells, Angles,and Akins bloom. That sort of thinking got us a Democratic Senate with the repulsive Harry Reid still in charge.

Ronald Reagan was a great, charismatic leader. That would not mater to the TruCon echo chamber on Hot Air. His 8-year record as governor of California was filled with FAR too many heresies. Not to mention his former membership in the Democratic Party

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 6:36 PM

So by all means let’s keep running the McCain’s and Romney’s of the party. It’s worked so well.

Minnfidel on February 6, 2014 at 6:41 PM

This “Dr. B” joker is just another intellectually dishonest Moby-troll. Akin was not the choice of the Tea Party, he won via plurality because the actual Tea Party vote was split between two other candidates, Brunner and Steelman (who was endorsed by Palin) and because there’s no provision for primary runoff elections in MO. Like “livefreeandie,” if this joker is a real academic, there should be a class action suit by his students to refund their tuition money.

ebrown2 on February 6, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Why can’t Republicans ever coordinate at the highest levels of the party to take out Obama?

Paperclips on February 6, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Please tell us more about Reagan’s 11th commandment. If you can manage to sandwich it in between swipes at the Tea Party, that is.

Kataklysmic on February 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM

TruCon
Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Well that’s getting really old in a hurry.

What the Hell does that even mean???

Did y’all have a meeting at the College Republicans at the university you teach in and come up with a catch phase??

I get the gist of the phrase, but I don’t get how you get off lumping everyone here that thinks running center squishes is not the way to go under some bull$hit TruCon™ label.

Yer either a Moby or a Bloomberg type flake.

Reagan’s rule of not speaking ill of fellow Republicans

Michael Bloomberg sends his regards….

BigWyo on February 6, 2014 at 6:56 PM

This “Dr. B” joker is just another intellectually dishonest Moby-troll. Akin was not the choice of the Tea Party, he won via plurality because the actual Tea Party vote was split between two other candidates, Brunner and Steelman (who was endorsed by Palin) and because there’s no provision for primary runoff elections in MO. Like “livefreeandie,” if this joker is a real academic, there should be a class action suit by his students to refund their tuition money.

ebrown2 on February 6, 2014 at 6:49 PM

You caught one. It’s not a sin to say that Akin was TEA party IF you are just a casual observer. But if you are the head of the republican student’s lounge (or whatever the DR wrote) ,and you claim that Akin was Tea Party, then you are lying about one or the other. Akin was Rove backed(primary) and the establishment pick(before the rape comments). Palin backed Steelman and some TEA party orgs backed Brunner. The Akin = Tea Party urban myth is only used by MOBYs.

Angle was enthusiastically backed by Romney in the general.

Lastly, Christie is causing more harm to the GOP brand ,right now, then (Akin + Odonnel + Angle) * 100.

BoxHead1 on February 6, 2014 at 7:02 PM

The Tea Party has been a very mixed bag for the GOP, some great candidates put forward (Rand Paul for example), some, not so much. And I do believe the movement was much more promising when it focused on largely fiscal rather than social conservatism. Ok, Akin was not the tea-party’s preferred candidate. But of course after his comments about Magical Uteruses many of the GOPs and Tea Party’s social conservative wing rallied around him. The result, of course was six more years of Claire McCaskill in Missouri, a Democratic Senator who has no buisness in that seat.

I am talking about the mentality in both the GOP, the Tea Party, and the conservative blogosophere that the most Righty-right-wing 100% conservative is always the best candidate to run in any election, in any location at any time. I suppose by the logic by some of the commentators here, the GOP should have kept running Barry Goldwater every election for the presidency, until, of course, Goldwater too became a heretic due to his opinions on gays in the military.

But I am not going anywhere haters, we need some people on these threads who can add something besides “TRAITOR!” “HERETIC”! “INFIDEL”! “RINO!”

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Why can’t Republicans ever coordinate at the highest levels of the party to take out Obama?

Paperclips on February 6, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Because the high levels of the party don’t want Obama taken out. All they care about is enriching their own personal wealth and influence. Unlike us at the low levels of the party, they are insulated from the repurcussions of his goverance and really couldn’t care less what we want.

Kataklysmic on February 6, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Personally, I think it’s hysterical and fantastic all at the same time.

The left is spending every ounce of energy it has, to foam at the mouth and bite the carcass of a fat bastard who was never, is not now, nor will he ever be, a candidate for President.

This is my favorite part of liberalism…they are so Goddamned arrogant and smug and sure of themselves…they’re having a touchdown celebration…on a baseball field; And the stadium is empty, except for the media.

That’s it lefties!! Get ‘Im!!! Yeah! Tear him up!! Sic ‘Im!!

heh heh heh…they’re so cute when they chase their tails like that…precious.

a5minmajor on February 6, 2014 at 7:06 PM

“TRAITOR!” “HERETIC”! “INFIDEL”! “RINO!”

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 7:04 PM

You forgot “Dumb A$$ Troll” and “Moby”.

BigWyo on February 6, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Clearly I have touched a nerve with the commentators who are used to the ritual “banishment of RINOS who strayed from our holy doctrine” every night. Sorry to spoil your fun.

And I am not the only one to criticize the “run the 100% conservative every time”, Ace of Spades has been writing on this frequently recently.

My point still stands that, according to the Tru Con echo chamber here, Reagan’s record as governor of California would have easily disqualified him in your eyes if his name was anything but Ronald Reagan. Perhaps you should learn about more about the former Democrat and Union leader before throwing his name around so easily.

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 7:19 PM

You caught one. It’s not a sin to say that Akin was TEA party IF you are just a casual observer. But if you are the head of the republican student’s lounge (or whatever the DR wrote) ,and you claim that Akin was Tea Party, then you are lying about one or the other. Akin was Rove backed(primary) and the establishment pick(before the rape comments). Palin backed Steelman and some TEA party orgs backed Brunner. The Akin = Tea Party urban myth is only used by MOBYs.

Angle was enthusiastically backed by Romney in the general.

Lastly, Christie is causing more harm to the GOP brand ,right now, then (Akin + Odonnel + Angle) * 100.

BoxHead1 on February 6, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Yep, we can see by his latest post that he’s just going to engage in flatulent logorrhea, parroting the same old stale GOP-E falsehoods on behalf of K-Street corruption merchants like Rove. It was the same story with O’Donnell (whom I despise because of the stunts she pulled with the Intercollegiate Studies Institute) in DE. She only beat Castle in the primary because of his corrupt game of musical chairs with the Delaware Dems over state offices there after turning the DE Republican organization into his own fiefdom. That, added to the fact that his voting record was in the mainstream of Democratic leftism, enabled Ms. “I’m not a witch” to take him out.

ebrown2 on February 6, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Why can’t Republicans ever coordinate at the highest levels of the party to take out Obama?

Paperclips on February 6, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Because the high levels of the party don’t want Obama taken out. All they care about is enriching their own personal wealth and influence. Unlike us at the low levels of the party, they are insulated from the repurcussions of his goverance and really couldn’t care less what we want.

Kataklysmic on February 6, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Yeah that was sort of rhetorical on my part. However, I do appreciate your well stated response.

I had to re-register to vote when I changed residences about a year and a half ago and I chose unaffiliated. I can’t stand to be officially associated with the Republican party anymore even if I still vote for them locally.

Paperclips on February 6, 2014 at 7:23 PM

My point still stands that, according to the Tru Con echo chamber here, Reagan’s record as governor of California would have easily disqualified him in your eyes…

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 7:19 PM

BS

A Time for Choosing

When any of your leftist Republican squishies can articulate conservative values like this then come back and try to peddle your revisionist garbage. Until then, second and third rate politicians shouldn’t be compared to a statesman.

sharrukin on February 6, 2014 at 7:24 PM

BS

A Time for Choosing

When any of your leftist Republican squishies can articulate conservative values like this then come back and try to peddle your revisionist garbage. Until then, second and third rate politicians shouldn’t be compared to a statesman.

sharrukin on February 6, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Yes, what a pathetic excuse for a lying Moby-troll. The fact that Reagan honestly repudiated his abortion bill signing and became such a staunch pro-life advocate that -Ayn Rand- denounced him goes right over their fact-free pointed heads.

ebrown2 on February 6, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Yep, we can see by his latest post that he’s just going to engage in flatulent logorrhea, parroting the same old stale GOP-E falsehoods on behalf of K-Street corruption merchants like Rove. It was the same story with O’Donnell (whom I despise because of the stunts she pulled with the Intercollegiate Studies Institute) in DE. She only beat Castle in the primary because of his corrupt game of musical chairs with the Delaware Dems over state offices there after turning the DE Republican organization into his own fiefdom. That, added to the fact that his voting record was in the mainstream of Democratic leftism, enabled Ms. “I’m not a witch” to take him out.

ebrown2 on February 6, 2014 at 7:22 PM

True, They always bring up Odonnel but never think about how horrible a candidate the “moderate” Castle had to be to lose to a no name like Odonnel. It’s very insulting to the GOP voters of Delaware to “blame” them for losing the senate (also a another fkng myth). The GOPe fluffers don’t care if they are insulting moderate repub voters in Deleware or “trucons” in MO. It’s all political games. History is malleable.

BoxHead1 on February 6, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Democrats don’t often hear this from me, but
Thanks guys!

Libertarian Johnny on February 6, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Maybe it will keep them busy and out of trouble.

crankyoldlady on February 6, 2014 at 7:38 PM

The FatBoy QOTD post is coming any second now, I can FEEL it.

ConstantineXI on February 6, 2014 at 7:39 PM

This “moby” is the faculty advisor of the College Republicans at the university he teaches in, and has voted Republican from the first election he has ever taken part in (1998) onwards. And for the record, I think Obama has been a disaster as president.

Followed by:

I signed up to comment on Hot Air because there need to be more center-right voices on the comment threads. There are have been WAY too many cyber Robespierres on these threads who think they alone can define what is an acceptable political position, and then to cast anyone who disagrees into the hellfire of RINOs and other vermin.

So he thinks Obama is a disaster…..but endorses and supports the people who empower him while attacking the people who are criticizing and opposing him.

And then follows his bashing of conservatives with:

The comment threads cannot become a TruCon echo chamber, especially since these self-proclaimed “Reagan Conservatives” hold in contempt Reagan’s rule of not speaking ill of fellow Republicans

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM

So the rule is that Barack Obama Republicans like you and your idol John McCain can bash conservatives all you want, but we can’t criticize you.

Clearly you work at a university. You’re not competent or intelligent enough to survive outside one.

northdallasthirty on February 6, 2014 at 7:44 PM

Did Palin stab a presidential nominee in the back in a slow motion lost weekend of slobbering wet kisses for the cameras with the opposition candidate? Totally missed that one.

Cliff by the Ford on February 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

My point still stands that, according to the Tru Con echo chamber here, Reagan’s record as governor of California would have easily disqualified him in your eyes…

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 7:19 PM

The funny part is how the mobys think we forget how much they hated and loathed Ronald Reagan when he was alive, and how much they bash and attack him now.

Mobys always forget that conservativism is not a personality cult — mainly because their Obama liberalism most emphatically is.

northdallasthirty on February 6, 2014 at 7:49 PM

TruCon Trucon Trucon TruCon TruCon TruCon Trucon Trucon TruCon TruCon TruCon Trucon Trucon TruCon TruCon TruCon Trucon Trucon TruCon TruCon TruCon Trucon Trucon TruCon TruCon TruCon Trucon Trucon TruCon TruCon TruCon Trucon Trucon TruCon TruCon TruCon Trucon Trucon TruCon TruCon

Hey, it’s true…. you say a word a bunch of times in a row and it just stops making any sense at all.

Fathom on February 6, 2014 at 7:49 PM

Wow. This thread is a mirror image of one on Ace of Spades about a week ago. Once again the TruCon echo chamber asserts that THEY ARE NEVER WRONG about anything. That if O’Donnell, Akin, Murdoch, Angle, Miller, Buck, Cuccinelli and few dozen others lost, it was through no fault of their own or their supporters, but it is because those EVIL RINO turncoats betrayed them again!

If anyone points out the idea of supporting lousy candidates in GOP primaries because Mark Levin likes them is perhaps not a good one, they must be a super-duper secret agent inserted by Emperor Karl Rove into Hot Air to weaken those of the pure faith! Throw out that heretic!

Newsflash, take off the tin foil hats about the GOP “Establishment” Illuminati and realize you do not strengthen a party and win elections through purity tests and nominating inarticulate fools!

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

I am talking about the mentality in both the GOP, the Tea Party, and the conservative blogosophere that the most Righty-right-wing 100% conservative is always the best candidate to run in any election, in any location at any time. I suppose by the logic by some of the commentators here, the GOP should have kept running Barry Goldwater every election for the presidency, until, of course, Goldwater too became a heretic due to his opinions on gays in the military.

But I am not going anywhere haters, we need some people on these threads who can add something besides “TRAITOR!” “HERETIC”! “INFIDEL”! “RINO!”

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 7:04 PM

LOL.

All you are ever going to do on these threads is scream “TRAITOR!” “HERETIC”! “INFIDEL”! “SOCON!” and whatnot.

Don’t you get it, Princess? We are on to you and your game. You are an anti-conservative bigot who is just here to act out your hatred of the Tea Party and your antireligious bigotry by cloaking it in what you think is more socially-acceptable hatreds.

You loathe conservatives, and you loathe religious belief. We get that. We don’t care. You and your fellow Obama toe-suckers can scream and froth at the mouth all you want, because we know it is all an act you put on to be the “cool” Republicans like Abby Huntsman and Meghan McCain so you can get on MSNBC and get the love of leftists.

Krispy Kreme tried to play that game. He bashed social conservatives, he bashed the Tea Party, he kissed Obama’s rear, he cozied up to the media and Democrats. And now he’s toast and you are pulling your hair out because he proves in living color how nonsensical and screwed-up your Surrender Caucus “Republicanism” is.

northdallasthirty on February 6, 2014 at 7:57 PM

He came out too early. Doofus.

TXMomof3 on February 6, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Christie slept with stray dawgs, and now he got fleas. To bad. Next up!

paulsur on February 6, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Wow. This thread is a mirror image of one on Ace of Spades about a week ago. Once again the TruCon echo chamber asserts that THEY ARE NEVER WRONG about anything. That if O’Donnell, Akin, Murdoch, Angle, Miller, Buck, Cuccinelli and few dozen others lost, it was through no fault of their own or their supporters, but it is because those EVIL RINO turncoats betrayed them again!

LOL. Moby’s attempt to quote Reagan backfired, so now moby tries quoting another conservative website.

Appeal to authority. Works in the Obama Party personality cult to which moby belongs, not here.

If anyone points out the idea of supporting lousy candidates in GOP primaries because Mark Levin likes them is perhaps not a good one, they must be a super-duper secret agent inserted by Emperor Karl Rove into Hot Air to weaken those of the pure faith! Throw out that heretic!

“Lousy candidate” is a laughable farce when you consider these are the people who foisted John McCain and Mitt Romney on us as saviors.

Newsflash, take off the tin foil hats about the GOP “Establishment” Illuminati and realize you do not strengthen a party and win elections through purity tests and nominating inarticulate fools!

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Why would we ever believe you wanted to strengthen the party OR win an election?

Mobys like you are quite comfortable in the permanent minority, making no waves, lying to your base, and when cornered, insisting that you could do more if you only had more money, more votes, etc.

Your view of winning elections and strengthening your party is 180 degrees opposite your actions of pissing on your base and pandering to Barack Obama.

You are desperate because you know if we walk, you lose — which means no more cushy offices, no more Congressional per diem, and no more lobbyist kickbacks. So now you’re trying to berate and attack and guilt us into supporting people like Krispy Kreme and you who belittle us at every opportunity.

northdallasthirty on February 6, 2014 at 8:03 PM

True, They always bring up Odonnel but never think about how horrible a candidate the “moderate” Castle had to be to lose to a no name like Odonnel. It’s very insulting to the GOP voters of Delaware to “blame” them for losing the senate (also a another fkng myth). The GOPe fluffers don’t care if they are insulting moderate repub voters in Deleware or “trucons” in MO. It’s all political games. History is malleable.

BoxHead1 on February 6, 2014 at 7:32 PM

She was -worse- than a “no name,” she was actually the designated loser candidate in the 2008 Senate election vs. Biden and a pathetic independent candidate in the 2006 election (4%) after coming in 3rd in the Republican primary with a mammoth 17% of the vote, losing to a Temple University law professor who would later abandon the party to support Obama for President in 2008. Losing to her is like being shut out in basketball by the Washington Generals.

You are so right about these lying prats banking on historical ignorance. Rove’s 2012 election night conniption fit should have gotten him run out of serious consideration for anything other than sitting in a dunking booth at the local fair. His PAC’s success rate was pathetically inadequate, far worse that that of the “Chillbilly from Wasilla’s,” (TM), as his moronic type no doubt characterize Palin behind closed doors.

ebrown2 on February 6, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Christie is a backstabbing whoor. Was Romney a rock ribbed conservative? Christie strangled him. On purpose. Whom is he loyal too besides himself ? By all means conservative should rush to defend him. But he is valuable to the cause. Like Cromwell’s head on a pike was valuable to Charles II.

Cliff by the Ford on February 6, 2014 at 8:15 PM

kingjester – actually Reagan won 49 states, not 48, in 1984. Walter Mondale was elected as President of Minnesota and Lord High Commissioner of D.C.

The new posters resulting from the open registration are a real breath of fresh air on this site blowing through the little cliques that equate longevity with knowledge.

Oh, and Canoper watched “The Front Page” too many times as a kid.

Anyway, nice to see that the Hot Gas “groupthink” is now being challenged by posters who live outside the “I’ve been here since 1894″ Hot Air bubble.

FortyTwo on February 6, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Wow. This thread is a mirror image of one on Ace of Spades about a week ago. Once again the TruCon echo chamber asserts that THEY ARE NEVER WRONG about anything. That if O’Donnell, Akin, Murdoch, Angle, Miller, Buck, Cuccinelli and few dozen others lost, it was through no fault of their own or their supporters, but it is because those EVIL RINO turncoats betrayed them again!

If anyone points out the idea of supporting lousy candidates in GOP primaries because Mark Levin likes them is perhaps not a good one, they must be a super-duper secret agent inserted by Emperor Karl Rove into Hot Air to weaken those of the pure faith! Throw out that heretic!

Newsflash, take off the tin foil hats about the GOP “Establishment” Illuminati and realize you do not strengthen a party and win elections through purity tests and nominating inarticulate fools!

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Wow, your emotional maturity and your intellectual acuity seem to be stuck in middle school. It’s not that actual conservatives have a grant of infallibility, it’s just that you Moby-trolls are pretty much pathetically wrong about -everything-, which figures given the fact that you can’t actually provide evidence or sound arguments for your position.

ebrown2 on February 6, 2014 at 8:17 PM

The comment threads cannot become a TruCon echo chamber, especially since these self-proclaimed “Reagan Conservatives” hold in contempt Reagan’s rule of not speaking ill of fellow Republicans

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Disparagingly calling people “TruCons” while castigating others for speaking ill of fellow Republicans. You’re hilarious.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Krispy Kreme tried to play that game. He bashed social conservatives, he bashed the Tea Party, he kissed Obama’s rear, he cozied up to the media and Democrats. And now he’s toast and you are pulling your hair out because he proves in living color how nonsensical and screwed-up your Surrender Caucus “Republicanism” is.

northdallasthirty on February 6, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Yes, isn’t it funny that Reagan’s 11th Commandment doesn’t apply to Christie?

Notice that none of the Mobys care that Christie stabbed one of their putative own in the back right before the 2012 election? That’s how seriously they really take “party loyalty.”

ebrown2 on February 6, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Disparagingly calling people “TruCons” while castigating others for speaking ill of fellow Republicans. You’re hilarious.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 8:19 PM

It’s like I said to another one of these new drivelers earlier today, “The Law of Non-Contradiction is just a suggestion as far as you’re concerned, isn’t it?”

ebrown2 on February 6, 2014 at 8:22 PM

If anyone points out the idea of supporting lousy candidates in GOP primaries because Mark Levin likes them is perhaps not a good one, they must be a super-duper secret agent inserted by Emperor Karl Rove into Hot Air to weaken those of the pure faith! Throw out that heretic!

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Over reliance on straw men, hyperbole, and other fallacy don’t make your arguments more convincing. Just an FYI.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 8:22 PM

I feel no pity for the man. It looks like he never learned the lesson he should have learned from John McCain: if you are a Republican, the press will be with you as long as they see you as a tool to undermine the Republican Party. The moment they perceive you as a threat, they will load onto you all their best efforts to bring you down.

The NY Times went as far as to publish unsubstantiated allegations that McCain was cheating on his wife, a very denigrating portray of Cindy McCain and to published in their front page false information about Sarah Palin.

So Christie was making enemies inside his own party while the mainstream media was cozy with him and he now expects Republicans to help him?

Sorry pal, but loyalty is a core conservative value. Don’t expect people to help you when you refused to help your own party when it needed you most.

p_incorrect on February 6, 2014 at 8:24 PM

With open enrollment, I feel like I’m in Back to the Future, where all of the old and busted arguments, long since dispensed with, are the new hotness again.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Scott Walker. Period.

Chris Christie was already dead in the water.

He just doesn’t realize that.

Alrighty then.

Eric in Hollywood on February 6, 2014 at 8:32 PM

True, They always bring up Odonnel but never think about how horrible a candidate the “moderate” Castle had to be to lose to a no name like Odonnel. It’s very insulting to the GOP voters of Delaware to “blame” them for losing the senate (also a another fkng myth).

BoxHead1 on February 6, 2014 at 7:32 PM

I call these people crystal ball Republicans. They just know that Castle would have won, if not for COD. Somehow, they know it in their bones. Despite the beating that their can’t lose picks, like Berg, Tommy Thompson, Mitt Romney, etc., etc., have suffered badly at the polls.

(Note: I actually supported Castle over COD because I don’t like COD and I figured Castle is good enough for Delaware.)

They also know that they could have won Nevada if not for Angle – never can get them to tell me which candidate they think would have won though (Lowden? Seems unlikely. I supported Tark myself.) And, they know that they could have won without Ken Buck. With whom, I’m not certain. And, they like to blame the establishment pick* of Akin on the conservatives, despite the fact that nobody in the Tea Party supported him. Etc. Etc. Etc.

(*No, I don’t really think he was the establishment pick, but as a sitting Congressman, he was more establishment than Tea Party, and goose / gander and all.)

These statist GOP folks really should compete with the Democrats in a new televised contest called America’s Most Illogical Emo.

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 8:36 PM

why does this nursery rhyme keep going around in my head when I think of this thread/bridgegate?

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
All the King’s horses, and all the King’s men
Cannot put Humpty Dumpty together again.

maybe because:

Who was Humpty Dumpty?
Humpty Dumpty was a colloquial term used in 15th century England to describe someone who was fat or obese

unseen on February 6, 2014 at 8:38 PM

BoxHead1 on February 6, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Well COD ran once, the moderates put up Rossi in WA three times and lost. For every Tea party candidate that lost in the general election there was a establishment candidate like Rossi that lost. If the establishment could have won there seats the GOP would have the senate. Got to love the GOPe they didn’t want people to know they failed so they moved the goal posts and tried to make it seem the Tea party candidates was the reason for the loss. Idiots like Dr. B fell for it.

unseen on February 6, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Scott Walker. Period.

Chris Christie was already dead in the water.

He just doesn’t realize that.

Alrighty then.

Eric in Hollywood on February 6, 2014 at 8:32 PM

There are three repubs I definitely do not want: Paul Ryan, Chris Christie and Jeb Bush!

shubalstearns on February 6, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Scott Walker. Period.

Chris Christie was already dead in the water.

He just doesn’t realize that.

Alrighty then.

Eric in Hollywood on February 6, 2014 at 8:32 PM

walker might be a good choice. Little worried about his immigration stance but he is 100 times better than the Bully of bridgegate.

unseen on February 6, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Dr.B

Dang. Not even 24 hours.

Christie who agreed with Governor Abortion Cuomo 98% of the time. How’s that working out for you?

22044 on February 6, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Scott Walker. Period.

Chris Christie was already dead in the water.

He just doesn’t realize that.

Alrighty then.

Eric in Hollywood on February 6, 2014 at 8:32 PM

No Ryan.
No Christie.
No Jeb.

shubalstearns on February 6, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Focusing on Christie takes the eye off all the Governors who failed their states in the rollout of Obama care. Something that affects all citizens of the state versus a small segment of the population of a state. Millions and millions of taxpayer dollars spent with nothing to show for it, yet people are obsessed with traffic and real people suffer.

Of course if Christie had knowledge prior to the traffic nightmare he’s toast, I have seen nothing to convince me this is so.

BelleStarre on February 6, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Wow. This thread is a mirror image of one on Ace of Spades about a week ago. Once again the TruCon echo chamber asserts that THEY ARE NEVER WRONG about anything. That if O’Donnell, Akin, Murdoch, Angle, Miller, Buck, Cuccinelli and few dozen others lost, it was through no fault of their own or their supporters, but it is because those EVIL RINO turncoats betrayed them again!

If anyone points out the idea of supporting lousy candidates in GOP primaries because Mark Levin likes them is perhaps not a good one, they must be a super-duper secret agent inserted by Emperor Karl Rove into Hot Air to weaken those of the pure faith! Throw out that heretic!

Newsflash, take off the tin foil hats about the GOP “Establishment” Illuminati and realize you do not strengthen a party and win elections through purity tests and nominating inarticulate fools!

Dr.B on February 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

1.) In O’Donnell’s case, the alternative was the social liberal Mike Castle. Thanks but no thanks, I’d rather have the Democrat who’s honest about their allegiances, and I have no need to enable another Chamber of Commerce crony.

2.) In Akin’s case, he said something stupid, and apologized for it. The establishment had no replacement candidate, so why was it incumbent upon conservatives to toss Akin under the bus? He had a solidly conservative record, and owned up to his foolishness — something that took the likes of Mitt Romney far longer to do with the 47%.

3.) In Angle’s case, yes she was the tea party candidate. And who was the establishment candidate? The “reasonable” Sue Lowden, who talked about paying doctors by giving them chickens. Errrr… yeaaaaahhh…

4.) Re: Miller & Buck — how about Berg (MT) or Thompson (WI) who failed in the same election cycle?

5.) Cuccinelli came closer to beating McAuliffe than Romney came to beating Obama in Virginia. And unlike Romney, Cuccinelli was at a 10-to-1 disadvantage on air time, and was disowned by conservative media. That’s known as “overachieving.”

The RINOs have shown that their candidates are quite capable of selling the GOP and conservatism down the river, and have zero when it comes to bragging rights about electability, yet their arrogance seems to know no bounds.

Stoic Patriot on February 6, 2014 at 8:55 PM

If the dems do have a smoking gun implicating Christie (and they could; it does not stretch credibility too much), when would be the best time to unveil it. I suggest it would be well after he “rights the ship”, perhaps after the New Hampshire primary in 2016. I feel the NSA is collecting all sorts of damaging material that is solely available to the DNC.

kpguru on February 6, 2014 at 9:01 PM

ebrown and
unseen on February 6, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Yeah, I’m sure Odonnel was a known quantity. I shouldn’t of written “no-name”. The point was that if she’s a loser then she’s a loser that beat Castle and the GOPe. If they can’t beat a loser then they need to get back to the gym and re learn the fundamentals.
And

(*No, I don’t really think he was the establishment pick, but as a sitting Congressman, he was more establishment than Tea Party, and goose / gander and all.)

besser tot als rot on February 6, 2014 at 8:36 PM

I was definitely being goose / gander. The truth is I don’t know what the MO establishment is. I do know that Akin wasn’t TEA party and anyone who claims to be a super serious republican college scout leader should also know that.

BoxHead1 on February 6, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Democrats Now Coordinating “At The Highest Levels Of The Party” To Take Down Christie, RINO Atheist Bloggers Hardest Hit

Lamont Cranston on February 6, 2014 at 9:33 PM

You guys attributing these brilliant, Zen-master, triple-reverse psychology, political judo moves to the Democrats are giving me fits of laughter. Occam’s Razor, Democrats are attacking him because there’s blood in the water and he has a parenthetical ‘R’ after his name.

Lamont Cranston on February 6, 2014 at 9:48 PM

Yeah, I’m sure Odonnel was a known quantity. I shouldn’t of written “no-name”. The point was that if she’s a loser then she’s a loser that beat Castle and the GOPe. If they can’t beat a loser then they need to get back to the gym and re learn the fundamentals.

Yeah, I was just sharpening your point. In the 2006 primary, she finished 23 points behind an airline pilot named who’s gone 0-for-4 in his political career.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Protack (note: his Wikipedia entry mentions that he was running for President of County Council for New Castle County, DE in 2012, he lost that election, too.)

I was definitely being goose / gander. The truth is I don’t know what the MO establishment is. I do know that Akin wasn’t TEA party and anyone who claims to be a super serious republican college scout leader should also know that.

BoxHead1 on February 6, 2014 at 9:08 PM

I do, it was Akin, such as it was. Brunner had no real political experience and Steelman was a fairly lousy campaigner. McCaskill also ran reverse-psychology attack ads accusing Akin of being “too conservative,” since she wanted to face him in the general election. The two Tea Party candidates canceled each other out and Akin won with a resounding 36% of the vote.

ebrown2 on February 6, 2014 at 9:49 PM

“named Mike Protack”

ebrown2 on February 6, 2014 at 9:50 PM

If the dems do have a smoking gun implicating Christie (and they could; it does not stretch credibility too much), when would be the best time to unveil it. I suggest it would be well after he “rights the ship”, perhaps after the New Hampshire primary in 2016. I feel the NSA is collecting all sorts of damaging material that is solely available to the DNC.
kpguru on February 6, 2014 at 9:01 PM

I hope it comes out tomorrow morning as I am literally sick, tired, and plain fed up with this fat cow.

PrettyMooch on February 6, 2014 at 9:54 PM

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