Paul Ryan: Immigration reform might not happen this year after all

posted at 11:21 am on February 3, 2014 by Allahpundit

Skip to 2:45 for the immigration bit. According to Jonathan Strong, among the many Republicans who spoke at the caucus meeting last week on immigration, sentiment ran 80/20 against bringing a bill to the floor this year. Can this amnesty be saved?

It’s a testament to how little border hawks trust the GOP leadership on this subject that even cautious pessimism of the sort expressed here by Ryan is cause for deep analysis of hidden motives. Byron York wonders: Is this a head fake, designed to get conservatives to let down their guard?

“The best way to pass a bill is to tell people a bill is unlikely to pass,” says one Hill aide closely involved in the issue. “What if Ryan had gone on TV and said, ‘Read my lips, we’re going to pass a bill’?” Can you imagine how much more difficult it would be is for Republicans when they go home to town halls?”

The aide recalls how Senate GOP Gang of Eight leader Marco Rubio often stressed the downside of his bill’s chances. Recalling a closed-door meeting in which Rubio discussed the bill with skeptical colleagues, the aide remembers, “Rubio said, Look, there’s no way the bill will pass as it is right now. The Democrats are going to lose about five of their own, and it just won’t pass. Rubio would go on Hannity and say the same thing — Oh, we’ve got so much work to do, we don’t have the votes.”

One result of that kind of talk was that conservatives who opposed reform didn’t see an active threat until the Gang of Eight bill was on the verge of passage. “The phone lines in Congress didn’t melt down until after Corker-Hoeven [the amendment that assured enough Republican support for passage], and everybody realized the countdown had begun,” the aide says.

If conservatives got caught napping on the Gang of Eight bill, it’s partly because they thought they could afford to. There’s only so much one can do to stop a bill from getting 60 votes when there are 55 Democrats, a few committed Republican immigration sellouts like McCain and Graham, and a younger GOP guard like Rubio who are using the issue for their own electoral ambitions. The House was always going to be where the big fight happened, partly because it’s the last line of defense, partly because there’s a bigger constituency of conservatives in the caucus willing to hold strong, and partly because grassroots righties can exert more electoral pressure on the squishes who are wavering. If anything, the fact that Boehner and Ryan told the base to kiss off over the budget deal in December has only pushed border hawks to a higher state of alarm. Nothing’s going to lull them to sleep now; York’s piece, scrutinizing Ryan’s mild expression of doubt, is a nice example why. That’s not to say that Boehner won’t tell the base to kiss off again and pass this thing over conservatives’ howling objections, just that there will be howling, no matter what he and Ryan say.

Speaking of unhelpful rhetoric, though, what are we to make of this?

In keeping with his State of the Union pledge to bypass Congress when necessary, Obama hinted Friday that immigration might be a candidate for executive action

“Obviously, if at some point we see that it’s not getting done, I’m going to look at options to make sure that we have a rational, smart system of immigration,” he said. “But I’m going to do everything I can in these coming months to see if we can get this over the finish line.”

Fear of Obama using executive action, or rather inaction, in refusing to enforce new border security measures passed by the House is the excuse du jour among Republicans for why the House might not end up passing anything. Watch Ryan here and you’ll see him repeat the point: How can the GOP come together and reform immigration when it has no faith that its reforms will be carried out? The thing is, though, if you’ve concluded as a caucus that Obama’s gone rogue and can’t be trusted to dutifully carry out federal law, the answer isn’t to boycott immigration reform, it’s to boycott new legislation of all kinds. If, in theory, 15 Senate Democrats flipped on ObamaCare and agreed to some sweeping GOP plan to scale back the law, why bother passing that if you don’t trust O to carry it out? Blaming Obama’s executive power grabs is a convenient way for Boehner, Ryan, Rubio et al. to dodge the real problem within the caucus, which is that conservatives don’t trust their own leadership to demand real, measurable border security improvements as an absolute prerequisite to legalizing illegals.

And yet, per the last excerpt, here’s O now rattling his saber by suggesting he might do something on legalization himself if the House effort falls apart. His thinking, I guess, is that Republicans will be frightened by the idea of him taking all the political credit for legalization and therefore they’ll act to preempt him, but it may backfire by convincing conservatives that Boehner and Ryan are right — Obama really can’t be trusted in this area, in which case why are House Republicans bothering with new legislation at all? Maybe O’s finally decided that he’d prefer to have the House bill fail so that he can legalize illegals by executive order, and yet he feels obliged to wait until the House effort collapses so that he can claim he was “patient” and acted only when Congress proved that it was incapable of doing so. Could he sell that line to the American public? Maybe, yeah.


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Better NEVER happen…

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2014 at 11:21 AM

RINOs hardest hit :(((((

Jennifer Rubin, the scumhag, crying, the sow.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Back to the drawing board, Paul. And you love your drawing board, don’t you. You’ll just have to work up another clever way to screw the base and cave to the Left.

rrpjr on February 3, 2014 at 11:25 AM

# 16 on the people, er “folks’” priority list.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Jennifer Rubin, in a wastebasket, er toilet.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Or this is a way to get the opposition to relax and let them sneak it through.

Flange on February 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Byron York wonders: Is this a head fake, designed to get conservatives to let down their guard?

That’s what I’m afraid of. They must be desperate to quiet those ringing phones.

Doomberg on February 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Jennifer Rubin is as annoying as Michael Tomasky and Eleanor Clift.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM

I do not understand the desire to pass this legislation. It is not logical. On any level.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Maybe O’s finally decided that he’d prefer to have the House bill fail so that he can legalize illegals by executive order, and yet he feels obliged to wait until the House effort collapses so that he can claim he was “patient” and acted only when Congress proved that it was incapable of doing so. Could he sell that line to the American public? Maybe, yeah.

Fine by me. If Obama wants to unilaterally grant amnesty(not sure how he can, but let’s just pretend he’s Emperor), then he can own it entirely. Pollsters and networks can try to dress it up however they want, but bottom line is amnesty does not sit well with the American public. Especially in times of economic hardship where jobs are scarce and wages stagnant.

Regardless, the GOP rushing a bill through because they’re afraid Obama will eventually do it via executive order is just about the dumbest excuse imaginably. But that rational, why don’t the Republicans try to fix Obamacare since Dear Leader is unilaterally making changes almost on a weekly basis?

Doughboy on February 3, 2014 at 11:29 AM

The only congressional action I’ll support is the obstruction of any policy championed by the left. There is no government program or policy that doesn’t already exist, that needs to be added to the roster.

And Paul Ryan… well… it’s too late.

BKeyser on February 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Trial Balloon Epic Fail (TBEF).

Tsar of Earth on February 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Byron York wonders: Is this a head fake, designed to get conservatives to let down their guard?

He, like all like him, think the TEA party and conservative “folks” are all stupid and asleep. I have news for him.

2014 will be epic, but not the way the D/Rs believe.

Peggy Noonan said “it’s not rage, it’s loss/regret”, paraphrased…I have news for her too. Rage is a mild grue.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM

“The GOPe will betray you” — Dire

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM

10. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). Yes, the most effective conservative policy wonk is obviously in the driver’s seat. If anyone can lead the House to pass a bill, he can.

Jennifer Rubin, the scumhag, doesn’t realize that he has nothing conservative in him, the DC princeling.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Jennifer Rubin is as annoying as Michael Tomasky and Eleanor Clift.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Rubin’s 2006-2012 cheerleading for Mitt Romney was embarrassing. She has no shame.

portlandon on February 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Hmmmm, maybe the RINO’s are reading HotAir and Ace of Spades?

redguy on February 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM

I do not understand the desire to pass this legislation. It is not logical. On any level.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Yup. Why immigration reform….why now?

d1carter on February 3, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Hmmmm, maybe the RINO’s are reading HotAir and Ace of Spades (commenters)?

redguy on February 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM

If they’re reading the editors they’re in the same boat.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:35 AM

One party government has killed America…and the State Run Media cheers.

d1carter on February 3, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Yes, this a likely a head fake, designed to get conservatives to let down their guard. Ryan may be taking a play out of Obama’s playbook where after Scott Brown’s election Obama implied that Obamacare was pretty much finished, and then, wham!, surprise, in the dark of night, the Dems suddenly rammed Obamacare through.

The Republican “leadership” may be planning the same thing for amnesty: keep moving forward as they did last week with their pronouncements of “principles,” then retreat some, move forward again, retreat, get the Republicans tired and weary, and then, wham!, pass immigration “reform” suddenly and without warming.

anotherJoe on February 3, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Agree doughboy

cmsinaz on February 3, 2014 at 11:35 AM

… amnesty does not sit well with the American public. Especially in times of economic hardship where jobs are scarce and wages stagnant.

Doughboy on February 3, 2014 at 11:29 AM

…and welfare benefits are coveted and recipients are starting (maybe) to get the feeling we’ve run out of OPM.

Tsar of Earth on February 3, 2014 at 11:35 AM

I do not understand the desire to pass this legislation. It is not logical. On any level.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Exactly, if you’re going to commit suicide, why take the whole country with you?

antipc on February 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM

“Paul Ryan: Immigration reform might not happen this year after all”

Good news for change…

b1jetmech on February 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Byron York wonders: Is this a head fake, designed to get conservatives to let down their guard?

He, like all like him, think the TEA party and conservative “folks” are all stupid and asleep. I have news for him.

2014 will be epic, but not the way the D/Rs believe.

Peggy Noonan said “it’s not rage, it’s loss/regret”, paraphrased…I have news for her too. Rage is a mild grue.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Yeah, my wife had on NBC and I heard David Gregory saying how Ted Cruz was down and it was all because HE shut down the government…..Heh – they are terrified of Ted Cruz.

What do you think is impacting more Americans in a negative way????

The government shut down or ObamaCare????

Actually the government shutdown was a showcase for tyranny and Ted Cruz will not let the libs forget that.

redguy on February 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM

“Paul Ryan: Immigration reform might not happen this year after all”

Don’t go to sleep. He means just that “this year”. He/Boehner et co. mean to fool you next year, then.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Ryan as a bit of the idiot disease.

Pass amnesty and go home. He can easily run as a democrat after.

aniptofar on February 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Why immigration is even an issue with Republicans is mind-boggling.

Our economy is in a terrible state and as a result we have record numbers of people unemployed or out of the workforce altogether. Public assistance is at an all time high, working people can not afford their taxes, our health care system is being destroyed and the costs are not sustainable. That is just for starters.

Congress has done nothing, and I mean nothing, to help the average person. Yet people such as Paul Ryan want to push “immigration” to the top of our priorities? It’s absolutely stunning in its insensitivity and misguided focus.

Notwithstanding those facts, nobody trusts this leadership. That being said, they will probably make a stealth attempt at getting this done either before or after the election.

Marcus Traianus on February 3, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Time for impeachment if Obama takes matters into his own hands on immigration. Hell, it should have already been done after that DACA nonsense.

BuckeyeSam on February 3, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Time for the GOP to earn it’s do nothing moniker.

antipc on February 3, 2014 at 11:40 AM

obama and all who are for amnesty hate the middle class, hate the under- and un-employed legal citizens of the US, the children and all who immigrated legally to the US.

obama is a globalist.

The RINOs are his dogs, clinging to his pants. Ramirez had a perfect cartoon on it a while ago.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:41 AM

What seems to be missing in all of the ‘strategery’ being considered is that the President has already started down the path of amnesty via executive action.

In the wake of the inability to get the ‘Dream Act’ passed through Congress, even when BHO had super-majorities in the House and Senate, BHO effectively ordered the DoJ to stop enforcing the laws on the books and enact the key provisions of the ‘Dream Act’.

This is just one of a number of steps where the President has decided to promote a policy direction via the selective enforcement of (or rather selectively not enforcing) laws that are ‘on the books’.

I do think that we’re seeing a bit of misdirection on this. The House GOP leadership is loath to want to challenge the President’s abuses of power beyond a few hearings for show. They remain more afraid of the lapdog media than they do of the conservative base. And as long as their fear is as misplaced as that, we need to remain vocal and vigilant.

Athos on February 3, 2014 at 11:41 AM

“Paul Ryan: Immigration reform might not happen this year after all”

Don’t go to sleep. He means just that “this year”. He/Boehner et co. mean to fool you next year, then.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM

I caught that, too.

“We’re going to ram it through at some point. We’re just trying to figure out at which point.”

Bitter Clinger on February 3, 2014 at 11:42 AM

You/we’re all racist rubes :)

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:42 AM

OfA hasn’t released the RINO/D ‘bulldogs’, yet.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Zuckerberg is a traitor. Boycott all his products.

He lies better than obama.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Can this amnesty be saved?

“Yes, dear AP; just insult the nativist rubes” — Jennifer Rubin

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:45 AM

It’s a testament to how little border hawks trust the GOP leadership

…and obama.

The borders are now effectively open. obama/Nappi made them so, and the Rs will never change that. It’s a silent agreement, for different drivers for the left/right.

NO thinking person will ever trust any of them again. Period.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Apparently we don’t have jobs for those folks not in the shadows, what are these people going to do when they are legal? There isn’t enough of a tax base to cover our “obligations” now, why would we add to them. And finally, the military is suppose to be down sized, are our former military folks suppose to compete with pardoned law breakers for employment?

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 11:46 AM

The Republican “leadership” may be planning the same thing for amnesty: keep moving forward as they did last week with their pronouncements of “principles,” then retreat some, move forward again, retreat, get the Republicans tired and weary, and then, wham!, pass immigration “reform” suddenly and without warming.

anotherJoe on February 3, 2014 at 11:35 AM

What I don’t get about this theory is that it’s not like if/when the GOP rams amnesty through that we won’t be aware of it after the fact. Ok, great. They headfaked us and prevented some angry calls and e-mails from their constituents warning them not to vote for the bill. But what about the even angrier calls and e-mails they’ll receive once amnesty is signed into law? What about the fallout at the polls in November? What about the lingering anger and bitterness heading into 2016? Do they think there won’t be any repurcussions regardless of how the bill is passed?

Doughboy on February 3, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Nothing’s going to lull them to sleep now; York’s piece, scrutinizing Ryan’s mild expression of doubt, is a nice example why. That’s not to say that Boehner won’t tell the base to kiss off again and pass this thing over conservatives’ howling objections, just that there will be howling, no matter what he and Ryan say.

Primary Boehner’s azz. Pitchfork them all, politically.

2014, all home, all traitors. Learn the hard way.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Hey Party of Stupid how about you RINOs step aside and let the grown-up Tea Party candidates take over for a change? They know better than to do something as stupid as even consider for one moment an amnesty bill that would destroy their party and plunge the US into a malaise it would take years to recover from.

It’s because of idiots like Paul Ryan that I’m now and Independent and will not identify myself any longer as a dumb as a box of rocks Republican.

Not ONE dime to the RNC. I give my hard earned dollars directly to Tea Party or Conservative candidates not GOPe RINO dopes!

neyney on February 3, 2014 at 11:49 AM

AP seems to be posting earlier and earlier these days…

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Could he sell that line to the American public? Maybe, yeah.

Yeah, # 16

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Happy Birthday OmahaConservative!!!

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Happy Birthday OmahaConservative!!!

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Thanks Schad. The house is oddly silent with Ratso being AWOL…

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2014 at 11:58 AM

I dont know why people are so hyped about this question of timing. So Republicans plan to betray us in 2015, instead of pre-midterm 2014? Big deal!

Valkyriepundit on February 3, 2014 at 11:58 AM

If, in theory, 15 Senate Democrats flipped on ObamaCare and agreed to some sweeping GOP plan to scale back the law, why bother passing that if you don’t trust O to carry it out?

It speaks volumes if we’re at the point of wondering if every new piece of legislation that is passed might actually get executed.

Hello, GOP? There are bigger fish to fry.

lynncgb on February 3, 2014 at 11:58 AM

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2014 at 11:58 AM

How exciting!!! Happy Birthday!

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 11:59 AM

The house is oddly silent with Ratso being AWOL…

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Hopefully he’ll recover soon/painlessly. He should ‘hate’ you :)

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 12:00 PM

How exciting!!! Happy Birthday!

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Thank you darlin’
The big 59…

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Or this is a way to get the opposition to relax and let them sneak it through.

Flange on February 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM

That was my first thought.

Mimzey on February 3, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Hopefully he’ll recover soon/painlessly. He should ‘hate’ you :)

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 12:00 PM

I’m sure he will, but I did feed him a pork chop last night, sorta’ his ‘last’ meal before becoming eunuch…

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Apparently we don’t have jobs for those folks not in the shadows, what are these people going to do when they are legal? There isn’t enough of a tax base to cover our “obligations” now, why would we add to them. And finally, the military is suppose to be down sized, are our former military folks suppose to compete with pardoned law breakers for employment?

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Why not. The repubs are already using the retired military to subsidize the budget.

don’t vote for the repub snakes. they will bite you in the a$$ when you’re not looking.

johnny reb on February 3, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Happy Birthday OC :)

cmsinaz on February 3, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Why can’t the GOP make the case to the American people that legalizing all of these illegals would be horrible for the middle class American citizen, would further drive up unemployment, and would continue to drive down wages (which have already been on the decline). Is the GOP leadership that much in the pocket of the Chamber of Commerce and other big business interests?

Why can’t they pass a border security bill only – and see what happens. Let the Democrats and Obama explain why securing the border is a bad idea.

At this point, I don’t trust any of them, and my dialing finger is at the ready.

TarheelBen on February 3, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Happy Birthday OC :)

cmsinaz on February 3, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Thank you darlin’
No snow today. When I was a kid we always had blizzards for my birthday…

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2014 at 12:13 PM

They headfaked us and prevented some angry calls and e-mails from their constituents warning them not to vote for the bill. But what about the even angrier calls and e-mails they’ll receive once amnesty is signed into law? What about the fallout at the polls in November?

Doughboy on February 3, 2014 at 11:48 AM

It has been clear for sometime now that amnesty would seriously hurt the Republicans in the upcoming elections. Yet the Republican leadership still pressed forward with amnesty last week. Inexplicable it would seem.

So it would appear that the leadership doesn’t seem to care that much about the elections. It seems to be about passing amnesty itself, even if it’s a suicide mission (just like the Dems passed Obamacare knowing full well it was a suicide mission). Before Obamacare passed, Obama et al probably didn’t care about angry emails etc except in terms of how they pressured legislators to vote no. Probably it’s the same with amnesty for the R leadership. Their concern is that the emails etc will make Republicans vote no or “obstruct” the passage of amnesty. Just like Obama and Obamacare, once they pass amnesty, then they could care less about angry constituents. The deed is done!

anotherJoe on February 3, 2014 at 12:13 PM

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2014 at 12:13 PM

:)

must be that global warming….

cmsinaz on February 3, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Well a big Happy Birthday OC!!!

Every time I read anything about the Rs getting behind amnesty I shudder with anger.

CoffeeLover on February 3, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Thank you darlin’
The big 59…

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Ah, those were the days!

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Good.

Mini-14 on February 3, 2014 at 12:19 PM

I’ve really come to despise Ryan.

Darksean on February 3, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Obama hinted Friday that immigration might be a candidate for executive action…

That’s quite the step. Wow.

Bishop on February 3, 2014 at 12:23 PM

It’s a testament to how little border hawks trust the GOP leadership on this subject that even cautious pessimism of the sort expressed here by Ryan is cause for deep analysis of hidden motives.

“border hawks”? It’s not about the border. It’s about interior enforcement.

As to trusting the treasonous worms in the GOP leadership … what’s to trust? They should never even be proposing any of this treasonous idiocy. It doesn’t matter if it ever gets to the floor or not. The fact that the leadership keeps pushing this treasonous destruction of the nation-state concept is more than enough to have full trust in them – trust that they are traitors and idiots who have no business in government and will never get another vote from me.

It’s been far too many years having to fight this same moronic fight over and over and over. The Vichy GOP leadership know how stupid and treasonous this push to aid and abet illegals is. They know that the base hates it and hates everyone who pushes it, but they keep pushing it. There is nothing to wonder about. The GOP leadership want to shove this treason through and will keep trying as long as they have any power, at all. They are not worthy of any votes. They are not worthy of citizenship – not just American citizenship, but any sort of citizenship since they have done little else but push to destroy the very concept of the nation-state and its citizens.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 3, 2014 at 12:27 PM

The question isn’t whether we need a new immigration system, just a president who will enforce the laws we already have.

Pass what ever you want , it doesn’t seem to matter.

Tater Salad on February 3, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Sure

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Yes, this a likely a head fake, designed to get conservatives to let down their guard. Ryan may be taking a play out of Obama’s playbook where after Scott Brown’s election Obama implied that Obamacare was pretty much finished, and then, wham!, surprise, in the dark of night, the Dems suddenly rammed Obamacare through.

The Republican “leadership” may be planning the same thing for amnesty: keep moving forward as they did last week with their pronouncements of “principles,” then retreat some, move forward again, retreat, get the Republicans tired and weary, and then, wham!, pass immigration “reform” suddenly and without warming.

anotherJoe on February 3, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Worth repeating.

They dont want protests now.

I just heard the new Americans for a Conservative Direction ad on Rush Limbaugh. I couldn’t pull up the text at the ACD website, but it starts out Republicans have a solution ….

It is presented as an ad for the Republicn Party, as statement of principle of the party, not of politicians, but the whole party.

It made my blood boil

Ad states everyone will undergo a background check, and anyone with criminal record will be deported

I thought that was the law now /sarc

They used the Superbowl to divert the coverage of their closed door meeting. Meanwhile, Coca Cola runs its globalist America ad during the Superbowl. Now, Monday after, the Zuckerberg front group makes an ad that sounds as if it came directly from the GOP.

Of course it came from the RINOs but they can deny it later’

This ad is the first step in rebranding the GOP

Re branding is a big deal There wasn’t a convention. There was no platform committee. But they just redefined the GOP, from the top.

The coca cola ad is part of the re branding

The party is being rebranded from the top, paid for by globalist big business who bought a big chunk of the GOP

The problem is the next election. If you vote for the liars, they will stab you in the back as soon as the polls close.

entagor on February 3, 2014 at 12:42 PM

The only obvious answer as to the reason the politicians are selling out the country and its hard working, honest citizens is because The Chamber of Commerce or its allies have bribed all the politicians. That is the only logical conclusion, they are all traitors.

birdwatcher on February 3, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Hey, maybe he’s got some more cuts to veteran’s benefits to put on the table to get him some immigration “reform?”

A Balrog of Morgoth on February 3, 2014 at 12:50 PM

The only obvious answer as to the reason the politicians are selling out the country and its hard working, honest citizens is because The Chamber of Commerce or its allies have bribed all the politicians. That is the only logical conclusion, they are all traitors.

birdwatcher on February 3, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Create all the cheap goods and services you want with tri-language labels and workers. But if birthright citizens aren’t working, nobody will be buying what you sell.

oldroy on February 3, 2014 at 12:57 PM

The only obvious answer as to the reason the politicians are selling out the country and its hard working, honest citizens is because The Chamber of Commerce or its allies have bribed all the politicians. That is the only logical conclusion, they are all traitors.
birdwatcher on February 3, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Agree

You need only go to Open Secrets on Boehner and scroll to the chart
Total Raised vs. Average Raised

This chart compares bucks donated to Boehner to the average Congressman. In 2006 he starts pulling away. In 2010 he is about triple above everyone else. In 2012 he is almost off the chart, and this year Boehner already almost matchers his entire fund raising for 2010.

Know this: they haven’t pulled back

They are going to use the money of liberal and globalist billionaires to re brand the party, and re cast conservative dissidents as enemies of America. That is part of the reason for the Coca Cola superbowl ad. Superbowl is the icon of America.

They intend to redefine America using ads.

Superbowl ads used to reflect America. They intend to change what people believe America is, and by that, leave conservatives a patriots on the outside as anti American

Unreal

entagor on February 3, 2014 at 12:58 PM

I’ll believe it when I see it. Until amnesty is officially dead I will assume this is just a diversionary/stalling tactic to put opponents at ease while they continue pushing amnesty behind the scenes. Don’t let up.

FloatingRock on February 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

I’ll believe amnesty is dead after someone does a double-tap, drives a stake through its heart, beheads the corpse, burns the body, scatters the ashes and puts the head up on a spike as a warning.

myiq2xu on February 3, 2014 at 1:30 PM

entagor on February 3, 2014 at 12:42 PM

entagor on February 3, 2014 at 12:58 PM

+2

FloatingRock on February 3, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Rush just now talking about the GOP amnesty push. He read an article suggesting the GOP expects a landslide, so they are pushing amnesty to keep the tea party away from the polls. They would win by smaller numbers, but the tea party would be marginalized (as not being needed to win) for the next Presidential election

They are intentionally pushing tea party away. The Zuckerberg ads have already run twice on Rush today, in your face, where conservatives go to listen.

The new ads no longer say ‘everyone agrees immigration is broken’

They new Zuckerberg ad now says ‘Republicans have a solution ..’

If you like any tea party candidates, give generously, because the RINOs need them all to lose to control selection of the Presidential,

and so they can split the melon (in this case control of America for self interests) with the Democrats

entagor on February 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Whether or not these bozos push for Amnesty this year, it has become crystal clear they need to be removed from office pronto.

Ukiah on February 3, 2014 at 1:42 PM

There’s way too much analyzing this immigration stuff. We have laws that say you can’t cross our borders illegally. Period. Enforce the law!

Also, Obamacare! Why mix messages?

Vince on February 3, 2014 at 1:43 PM

It should also be pointed out that Republicans wanting to push for Amnesty in the first place is so unbelievably stupid… why would you think they’d suddenly smarten up and decide not to go through with it?

No, they’re The Stupid Party and they’re just laying low while they decide how best to sneak this past their base.

Ukiah on February 3, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Everyone does realize that there was a bill passed and signed to put up a secure fence in 2006?

There is no secure fence because King Barky the Liar said he would put that as a low priority. Lots of shovel ready, really shovel ready, jobs there that the stimulus completely ignored.

Every border patrol and ICE union is against amnesty. Obama has yet to speak with his own experts on border control about amnesty. Ergo, there is no border security in amnesty.

Obama lies, he lies all the time.

jukin3 on February 3, 2014 at 1:59 PM

Dems need it to pass for 2014 elections and Repubs don’t. What difference does it make, we know they’re going to pass it. Don’t let them fool conservatives once again.

lea on February 3, 2014 at 1:59 PM

We need to make it clear to our congressmen that when they decide to keep their plans secret from the base they are making it clear they regard the base as ‘the enemy’ and when they regard those who elected them, those for whom they are sworn to represent and literally stand in proxy for in congress, as the enemy they betray their oath and those who elected them and leave us no recourse but to fire them and make of them members of the private sector once again.

We need to make it clear to Obama that what he holds in his hand is simply a pen, not a scepter, and their is no crown or halo upon his brow. He, too, should be fired for forgetting he is merely the chief executive, not an emperor. He serves, he does not rule. Since he has clearly forgotten that it’s time to return him to the private sector. If he persists, Obama should be impeached and removed from office.

thatsafactjack on February 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM

We trusted the politicians word that when they granted amnesty in 1986 that they would secure the border, fix the system, and their would no longer be a problem with illegal aliens at large in large numbers in our nation.

They passed an amnesty, the 1.3 million they claimed qualified for amnesty became 2.7 million who actually received amnesty ,and chain immigration to the tune of 5 new relatives for every illegal alien who received amnesty followed. But enforcement never happened, reforming the system never happened, and even the 2 million who were in this nation illegally and didn’t qualify for the amnesty were never deported.

We trusted the politicians to keep their word once and they failed to keep their word. They lied.

They’re just going to have to trust the American people this time… and we don’t want another amnesty by an overwhelming majority.

thatsafactjack on February 3, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Rush just now talking about the GOP amnesty push. He read an article suggesting the GOP expects a landslide, so they are pushing amnesty to keep the tea party away from the polls. They would win by smaller numbers, but the tea party would be marginalized (as not being needed to win) for the next Presidential election

I would be interested in knowing if they need conservatives to win too. I think they do because I’m not sure where this “landslide” is going to come from, certainly not from Hispanics or Democrats. I’m sure Rush had it all figured out and I’m missing something.

lea on February 3, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Zuckerberg/ACD ads 1/hour on Conservative radio.

Let folks know these are bogus. Pass the word.
Let them know a lib is flying a false flag.

wolly4321 on February 3, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Guess who is hitting the airways in support of a Republican immigration bill?

Yup. Those guys.

Hi Wolly, just thought I’d drive it home, too.

Fallon on February 3, 2014 at 2:59 PM

lea on February 3, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Rush said the same. He said he never heard of someone trying to win a smaller victory.

However, if they think the only future for America is borderless, one way they lose for sure is if the tea party wins

I think part of the insanity is the fact many pols are bought and paid for. And some are bought by blue billionaires. So they don’t have to make sense, they just have to perform for the masters

Just before I typed this, they ran the Zuckerberg ad for a third time on Rush

entagor on February 3, 2014 at 3:02 PM

The guy could have stayed home.

Schadenfreude on February 3, 2014 at 3:07 PM

I do not understand the desire to pass this legislation. It is not logical. On any level.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Yes, but then again, we’re not the recipients of huge corporate money “donations”. What Boehner, Ryan and Cantor are weighing right now is if their “retirement slush funds” are enough at this point or need more “contributions”.

riddick on February 3, 2014 at 7:42 PM

“among the many Republicans who spoke at the caucus meeting last week on immigration, sentiment ran 80/20 against bringing a bill to the floor this year”

So it would probably be a bad idea to get rid of that 80%. Check.

“Paul Ryan: Immigration reform might not happen this year after all”

I credit this entirely to the tireless effort of hotair commentators who filled his mailbox, his phone message box and his twitter inbox with respectful requests to stop this nonsense, none of which contained the words “Eddie Munster”.

V7_Sport on February 3, 2014 at 11:46 PM