GOP insiders: Second look at Marco Rubio?

posted at 4:01 pm on February 3, 2014 by Allahpundit

Process of elimination for center-right Republicans. If Christie’s too damaged by Bridgegate and Jeb Bush is too damaged by his brother’s legacy, who becomes their champion in the primaries? They’d prefer a guy who’s hawkish, who’s socially conservative enough to please evangelicals, but who’s “reasonable” enough to help business interests with things like amnesty. If he’s young, Latino, and telegenic, so much the better.

I know just the man.

A group of Republican fundraising heavyweights and wise men in Washington’s business community are solidly behind Rubio, and see him not only as someone who could win the White House, but someone they can work with…

Political strategists think Rubio’s chances of winning the GOP nomination in 2016 are looking better because of the bridge scandal embroiling New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-Wis.) decision to forego a White House bid to aim for the gavel of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee…

But first, Rubio would face the difficult choice of whether to opt for a presidential run when it could cost him his Senate seat.

Florida law does not allow Rubio to run simultaneously for the Senate and the White House in 2016, when his seat in the Senate is up.

Florida’s gone twice for Obama and 2016 is, of course, a presidential election year, so Rubio may figure that if he doesn’t run for president, he’s apt to lose his Senate seat anyway. Democrats will go all out to beat him and tea partiers disaffected by his immigration stance won’t be there in the same numbers as they were in 2010. On the other hand, as a potential nominee, my sense is that Rubio’s more acceptable to grassroots righties than Christie and even marginally more acceptable than Bush. He may have disappointed the base but he doesn’t seem to disdain them. Besides, all three are bad on amnesty but Rubio’s reliably conservative on most other issues, and if he’s serious about running, he’ll spend the next 18 months sounding hawkish on immigration to get right with the right. If you dislike him because he’s too hawkish, there’s no obvious reason why you’d like Christie or Bush more. Although, if Jeb grows more interested in running, an obvious way for him to distinguish himself from Dubya would be to take a conspicuously pro-diplomacy, anti-NSA line a la Rand Paul. Doesn’t really matter for Rubio’s purposes, though: Given that they draw from similar donor and operative pools, if Jeb runs, Rubio almost certainly won’t.

If Rubio runs, though, where does he win? Assuming Paul, Scott Walker, and either Huckabee or Santorum (or both?) are in the field, winning Iowa will be difficult, even for the undisputed centrist champ. He’s a better fit for New Hampshire, but Rubio wouldn’t have much of an “angle” to attract voters there the way the last few winners have. McCain was the maverick and Romney was the neighbor; the guy with the angle next time is Paul, the libertarian. Doesn’t mean a centrist can’t win, but can he win as the third-stringer after Christie flamed out and Jeb passed on the race? What’s the argument for Rubio over, say, Walker?

Exit question: Related to all this, does Christie’s CPAC speech matter? I’m 99 percent sure it doesn’t because speeches never matter, but if there’s a sharp negative or positive reaction from the audience, maybe a few minds will be changed about his viability among donors or campaign operatives. If he goes out there and hammers the mainstream media for being out to get him and the crowd cheers, could be that establishment types will treat it as a sign that he can pander his way to acceptability among tea partiers. If he goes out there and gets booed (which is unlikely, as I don’t think it’s ever happened to a major speaker at CPAC), maybe they decide they’re pumping a dry well and start to look around for alternatives.


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Um….YEAH!

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Where’s Fred when we need him. //

BacaDog on February 3, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Hell NO!

RickB on February 3, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Um…..NO!

topdawg on February 3, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Who are these pro-illegal alien amnesty “wise men” and why should their opinions matter more than other voters?

This is who they are:

All three are a party of the business wing of the Republican Party that has clashed with the Tea Party. Their support for Rubio suggests they seem him as a possible ally going forward.

bluegill on February 3, 2014 at 4:06 PM

No more amnesty pimps.

AZCoyote on February 3, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Burned that bridge on immigration. I’ll stay home.

BKeyser on February 3, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Booing is tacky, golf clap at best.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 4:06 PM

NO!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 3, 2014 at 4:06 PM

OT – ALLAH
dji -330 – should be QOTD.

U know the GOPe is desperate when they have to patch up old balloons to re try(trial) them.

BoxHead1 on February 3, 2014 at 4:07 PM

I have to say that while I might be willing to forgive Marco for his missteps, I really do think he should do another term in the Senate and then go back to Florida to run for governor. Another legislator with not management experience is really bad.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 4:08 PM

We have a crisis of leadership in this country.

TarheelBen on February 3, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Take note that the same people who say “we can’t run with Cruz because he’s a one-term senator” would pull the lever for Rubio.

nobar on February 3, 2014 at 4:08 PM

The Republicans had better find someone to run because they’re running out of time . . . and they know it. They go through this Kabuki dance every election cycle and end up leaving the voters with nothing but “lesser evils”.

rplat on February 3, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Process of elimination for center-right Republicans. If Christie’s too damaged by Bridgegate and Jeb Bush is too damaged by his brother’s legacy, who becomes their champion in the primaries?

We’re seeing the 2012 primaries happen in reverse. In 2012 Romney sewed up the nomination right after 2008 and lined every big donor he could get up behind him. By the time of the primaries he was basically unbeatable, because none of his challengers except Perry had any money. The base stampeded from candidate to candidate, desperate to find someone who would save them from Romney.

Now it’s exactly the opposite. There’s three big liberal Republicans who want to run. Christie almost had the nomination sewn up, and now appears to be collapsing thanks to bridgegate. Rubio’s poll numbers also cratered due to amnesty, and Jeb Bush has no chance.

So now we’re seeing the panicky liberal Republicans stampeding from candidate to candidate, looking for someone to save them from the inevitable Tea Party challengers, and who can actually win a general election.

Of course, if we just had a normal primary process, we wouldn’t have to worry about “pre-selecting” the “right” candidate. But instead it’s pretty clear the party wants to turn the primaries into a coronation.

Doomberg on February 3, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Vichy Republicans.

kingsjester on February 3, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Governors – if you please.

I maintain that events will drive the 2016 election – not candidates

jake-the-goose on February 3, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Rubio is 100% TOXIC – No thinking person will support him, or any of obama’s AMNESTY pushers.

Pork-Chop on February 3, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Nope.

KMC1 on February 3, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Take note that the same people who say “we can’t run with Cruz because he’s a one-term senator” would pull the lever for Rubio.

nobar on February 3, 2014 at 4:08 PM

No we can’t run Cruz he doesn’t have mass appeal. “True conservatives” may like him but he doesn’t have any appeal outside of that.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:14 PM

No chance in hell. Rubio had his shot and he blew it by selling out the base(and the country for that matter) on his shamnesty bill. There are some things I can forgive or ignore, but not this. Especially since he ran on a platform of opposing amnesty.

BTW, with the Gang of Eight debacle and that photo of Rubio gleefully extending his hand out to shake Obama’s at the SOTU address, why exactly was he a better choice than Chuck Crist? Aside from superficial reasons like his ethnicity.

Doughboy on February 3, 2014 at 4:14 PM

I never knew Rubio was gone.

as long as they win i don’t care who gets the nomination

gerrym51 on February 3, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Hell yes, anyone that the libs hate…the more the merrier, let’s drive them nuts.

Rubio, Cruz, Christy, Perry, Romney, Palin, Huck, Buchanan, Bachmann, Bush, Jindahl, Walker, Sessions, Stockman, Paul, Ryan, anyone in the Robertson family, the more the merrier, let’s make the libs sweat and spend money.

right2bright on February 3, 2014 at 4:15 PM

No!

neyney on February 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Oh HELL NO!

Rubio lost all support from me when he got caught on Spanish-language television saying that amnesty was coming once the illegals got some sort of legal status. At the same time he was telling gringo networks that he was absolutely against amnesty.

This wasn’t just pandering. Rubio was lying his ass off and we need a President with a decent character that we can trust. He isn’t that person any more than Jeb Bush or the fat man.

Happy Nomad on February 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Go ahead sit out “true conservatives.” No one will ever please you anyways. Almost everyone mentioned as a possible contenders supports some immigration reform. So whine all you want.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Marco Rubio stabbed the tea party and conservatives in the back. Remember when Rubio was seen as the “prince of the tea party” by many?

When campaigning Rubio promised to fight illegal alien amnesty, but after getting elected, he betrayed conservatives and the tea party and teamed up with Schumer, Graham and McCain to push amnesty.

Phony, two-faced Rubio is a junior Jeb Bush.

Marco Rubio tells Spanish-speaking audiences he is for amnesty, and then lies to English audiences and claims to oppose it.

Rubio is a fraud, and I’m sick of his put-on optimist act in those same, worn out “American Dream” speeches he always gives.

bluegill on February 3, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Having savored the greatly diminished fund raising capabilities of Karl Rove over the weekend …

… and now sipping from a cup of the tears of desperation from RINO’s clears my throat so I may properly respond to the thought of Amnesty Boy as the 2016 Presidential nominee ……..

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!

PolAgnostic on February 3, 2014 at 4:20 PM

No we can’t run Cruz he doesn’t have mass appeal. “True conservatives” may like him but he doesn’t have any appeal outside of that.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Says who? The media? The GOP insiders? John McCain? What I do know about Ted Cruz is that he’s reliably conservative, a gifted speaker(without a teleprompter, I might add), a brilliant lawyer and debater, and would be very hard to demonize by the left thanks to his calm demeanor and soft-spokenness. Oh and BTW, his last name is Cruz. Think that won’t help with the Latino vote?

His legislative record is almost non-existent thanks to being in the Senate for only a year thus far and in the minority, so 2016 may be too soon. But if it was a choice between him and Marco Rubio, it’s a no-brainer.

Doughboy on February 3, 2014 at 4:20 PM

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:18 PM

We will, thanks.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 4:20 PM

No one will ever please you anyways. Almost everyone mentioned as a possible contenders supports some immigration reform. So whine all you want.
terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:18 PM

No one who supports illegal alien amnesty (aka “immigration reform”) will get the nomination in 2016.

bluegill on February 3, 2014 at 4:21 PM

NO!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 3, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Listen to your fellow Texas girl, Terryann. Marco Rubio is a fine game to play in the pool. But not a good idea for President.

Lanceman on February 3, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Is that guy a natural born citizen? Maybe Pence would be good.

bill glass on February 3, 2014 at 4:21 PM

as long as they win i don’t care who gets the nomination
gerrym51 on February 3, 2014 at 4:15 PM

You can’t be serious. What’s the point in “winning” if the person who “wins” is basically governing as a Democrat would?

bluegill on February 3, 2014 at 4:22 PM

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Would you like some cheese with that whine, ma’am?

kingsjester on February 3, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Go ahead sit out “true conservatives.” No one will ever please you anyways. Almost everyone mentioned as a possible contenders supports some immigration reform. So whine all you want.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Almost everyone mentioned as a contender by the Democrat/media complex or GOP insiders supports amnesty. What does that tell you? Meanwhile, go ask the conservatve base what they support and you’ll get an entirely different answer. And the so-called contenders know this. Remember how in 2012 the entire field went out of their way to act like they were against blanket amnesty? Hell, even advocating in-state tuition for illegals was toxic as Rick Perry learned the hard way.

Doughboy on February 3, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Second look? Isn’t this about the 7th time we’ve had a “second look” at that deceitful betrayer? Well then take a second look at this: http://klsouth.wordpress.com/2013/05/05/the-rubio-deception/

anotherJoe on February 3, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Besides, all three are bad on amnesty but Rubio’s reliably conservative on most other issues

“Most”?

the corporate cronyism of sugar price supports isn’t reliably conservative.

Wethal on February 3, 2014 at 4:23 PM

No we can’t run Cruz he doesn’t have mass appeal. “True conservatives” may like him but he doesn’t have any appeal outside of that.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:14 PM

What utter Bull. You clearly don’t pay too much attention. The GOP ran McCain and Romney despite lack of appeal with anybody but the surrender weasels of the middle. How the hell did that work out?

You people need to stop sneering at right-wing conservatives if you hope the GOP will ever again win an election. There is a lot of talk about Republican unity but every time I look some “centrist” Republican is making deals with the Dems (I’m talking to you Paul Ryan and your looting of military pensions and support of amnesty). The ultimate was when Harry Reid sent John McCain out there to make the rebuttal speech to Ted Cruz’s filibuster.

Cruz/West 2016 and if you can’t even have an open mind enough to consider supporting such candidates may you go to hell!

Happy Nomad on February 3, 2014 at 4:23 PM

It’s not just that he was on the wrong side of a hot button issue, but that he actually seemed to believe working with Chuck Schumer was a good idea. Anyone that naive really isn’t ready to run for the presidency. Just how many times does he have to be fooled before he learns that he’s being played for a sucker?

Fred 2 on February 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Is that guy a natural born citizen? Maybe Pence would be good.
bill glass on February 3, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Anyone who was a citizen at birth is a natural born citizen. Rubio is a natural born citizen, but he would make a terrible nominee and I wouldn’t vote for him.

bluegill on February 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Would you like some cheese with that whine, ma’am?

kingsjester on February 3, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Me whining? Nah. I actually like some of the prospective candidates. So I have nothing to whine about when it comes to talking about 2016.

The “true conservatives” on the other hand….

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM

no, No, NO!

He is a traitor to his base.

Prediction: Not only will he NOT be president, he will not even be reelected to the Senate.

Whitewolf7070 on February 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Besides, all three are bad on amnesty but Rubio’s reliably conservative on most other issues, and if he’s serious about running, he’ll spend the next 18 months sounding hawkish on immigration to get right with the right.

When you run on one position to get elected, then reverse that position once you’re in office, then reverse that position to get nominated for another office, then– um, can we define “reliably”?

Fool me once, shame on– shame on you. You fool me, you can’t get fooled again.

de rigueur on February 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Would you like some cheese with that whine, ma’am?

I’m with terryannonline so sue me… And it is ridiculous to say Rubio is the same as the Democrats. Really?The same as Hillary?

sandee on February 3, 2014 at 4:25 PM

No we can’t run Cruz he doesn’t have mass appeal. “True conservatives” may like him but he doesn’t have any appeal outside of that.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:14 PM

How do you know he “doesn’t have mass appeal?” We haven’t had an election to find out.

How about we stop trying to “pre-select” the “correct” candidates (candidates who are inevitably leftists) to run in the primaries and just let the voters decide?

Go ahead sit out “true conservatives.” No one will ever please you anyways. Almost everyone mentioned as a possible contenders supports some immigration reform. So whine all you want.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:18 PM

I cast my last party-line “R” vote for Romney, so don’t worry, you don’t have to worry about my vote tainting your “pure” left-wing candidate.

Doomberg on February 3, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Prediction: Not only will he NOT be president, he will not even be reelected to the Senate.

Whitewolf7070 on February 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Heh. We keep re-electing Bill Nelson.

Lanceman on February 3, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Cruz is much more dynamic and exciting speaker/debater than Rubio (and Hillary, for that matter). Rubio comes across almost school boyish and childish.

bluegill on February 3, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Yeah, um

Fallon on February 3, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Rubio is 100% TOXIC – No thinking person will support him, or any of obama’s AMNESTY pushers.

Pork-Chop on February 3, 2014 at 4:13 PM

When you recall all the lies Rubio told when promoting the “Gang of Eight’s” amnesty plan, he would be the ideal successor to Obama.

bw222 on February 3, 2014 at 4:26 PM

The “true conservatives” on the other hand….

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM

You mean, Reagan Conservatives, such as myself, Ms. Munford, and the majority of posters on this Conservative Website? Those “True Conervatives”?

In other words, are you trying to redefine the meaning of the word “Conservative” to mean “Moderate” or “Socially Liberal”?

If that’s the case, then, from now on, I declare that a giraffe is now to be called “a skinny elephant”!

kingsjester on February 3, 2014 at 4:28 PM

No we can’t run Cruz he doesn’t have mass appeal. “True conservatives” may like him but he doesn’t have any appeal outside of that.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Yeah. You said it much nicer than me. I was going to mention the fact that he was an incredibly smarmy know-it-all with the same personality defects as Obama. (It must be a Harvard Law thing). Not to mention that his daddy seems to have a few screws loose.

And Rubio was never going away. His main problem was always maturity, which four years was always going to take care of. Paul Ryan was never going to run. Rand Paul would never be able to win a general election. (Plus his daddy is even crazier than Ted Cruz’s daddy.) Chris Christie’s only redeeming quality was electibility and I always thought that his arrogant bullying side would get the better of him. Jindal has no charisma. And I don’t see why Jeb Bush is even in the conversation.. His name is Jeb Bush. Did people seriously think that he was going to win a general election? So it is Rubio and a handful of Republican governors.

Illinidiva on February 3, 2014 at 4:28 PM

I cast my last party-line “R” vote for Romney, so don’t worry, you don’t have to worry about my vote tainting your “pure” left-wing candidate.

Doomberg on February 3, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Rubio, left-wing? Have you looked at his record?

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:30 PM

I’m with terryannonline so sue me… And it is ridiculous to say Rubio is the same as the Democrats. Really?The same as Hillary?

sandee on February 3, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Is he as bad as Hillary? No, but if that’s our standard for GOP Presidential nominees(Vote for Rubio! He’s not Hillary!), then why bother ever casting another ballot? What I do know is that Rubio was as bad as any Democrat on the issue of amnesty. And to make matters worse, he misrepresented his stance on it not only during the 2010 Republican Senate primary, but also while the bill itself was being written and debated.

I can accept “centrist” positions on certain issues from Republicans. What I do not abide is anyone who supports amnesty and I especially have zero tolerance for politicians who repeatedly lie to my face.

Doughboy on February 3, 2014 at 4:30 PM

sandee on February 3, 2014 at 4:25 PM

I didn’t say that. The Vichy Republicans, though, might as well change their name to Democrat-Lite Party.

kingsjester on February 3, 2014 at 4:31 PM

There’s one word for this nonsense.

OMAHA!!!!

ToddPA on February 3, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Rubio, left-wing? Have you looked at his record?

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Don’t bother, he/she has mad their mind up…. Rubio is the same as Hillary so they’ll stay home…. That will show them…

sandee on February 3, 2014 at 4:31 PM

You mean, Reagan Conservatives,

Reagan for immigration reform.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:32 PM

he/she has mad their mind up…. Rubio is the same as Hillary so they’ll stay home…. That will show them…

sandee on February 3, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Doomberg sounds like a man’s name to me.

Lanceman on February 3, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Cruz/West 2016 and if you can’t even have an open mind enough to consider supporting such candidates may you go to hell!

Happy Nomad on February 3, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Yes.. And lose 40 states in a landslide.

I’m sorry but there needs to be some reasonableness and compromise there.

Illinidiva on February 3, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Rubio and the rest of the GOPe can kiss my a$$.

I’m preparing myself to go to the booth in November and vote against every GOPe (R) on the ballot.

I will not just stay home and not vote. If the GOPe thinks they can just eek out a narrow victory, or break even, and declare that a victory over the Tea Party and Conservative base, then I’ll just make it a point to turn out and vote for their (D) opponents.

Let’s see how the GOPe likes getting 25% of the vote.

Meople on February 3, 2014 at 4:33 PM

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:14 PM Illinidiva on February 3, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Y’all keep it up. Bashing the base has just done wonders for you so far.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 4:33 PM

And they said Mitt Romney was a ‘flip flopper’. LOL! This guy puts Romney in the shade when it comes to flip flopping on key issues that will effect every working American citizen.

NO, Rubio. Stay in Florida..

thatsafactjack on February 3, 2014 at 4:34 PM

A group of Republican fundraising heavyweights and wise men in Washington’s business community…

Well, if this doesn’t scare conservatives away from Rubio, I don’t know what will.

Dongemaharu on February 3, 2014 at 4:34 PM

He isn’t running, because:

1) his buddy Jeb is definitely running, IMO

2) he’d have to give up his Senate seat. Can’t be on the ballot for both.

He’s far more likely to wait until 2020 or 2024. Same applies to Rand Paul.

Right Wingnut on February 3, 2014 at 4:34 PM

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:32 PM

The blemish on Reagan’s record that Liberals from both sides of the aisle, are bringing up right now, is his passage of a law granting Amnesty to illegal aliens.

Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986 because he strongly believed that it was time to gain control of U.S. borders and to enforce legal hiring at workplaces.

The amnesty of 3 million illegal immigrants that came with it was relatively small, and never would have resulted in 11 million new immigrants in the decades that followed had the rest of the law’s requirements been fulfilled by Congress.

Of course, they weren’t.

According to Reagan Attorney General Ed Meese, amnesty was in fact Reagan’s biggest regret, per a story in the Heritage Times, because he, like the people who supported him, believed in the rule of law.

kingsjester on February 3, 2014 at 4:34 PM

right now its either Cruz or maybe Walker for me, both have faced down major headwinds and come out in good shape

DanMan on February 3, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Meople on February 3, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Being that I’m in Texas-I will be voting straight GOP this year..again-but come 2016…there may be races that I skip.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 3, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Rubio and the rest of the GOPe can kiss my a$$.

OK. Bye.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Rubio, left-wing? Have you looked at his record?

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Apparently immigration is the only litmus test now.

Illinidiva on February 3, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Illinidiva on February 3, 2014 at 4:33 PM

You mean like the reasonableness and compromise the Dims showed the country in 2009 and 2010?

People always talk about “reasonableness and compromise” when what they’re really meaning is that the opposition surrenders, shuts up and goes away.

Meople on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Y’all keep it up. Bashing the base has just done wonders for you so far.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Not bashing the base. I consider myself conservative….it’s only when I come to places like this I’m a big ol’ lefty. But just being honest….no one will ever please you guys.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

No thanks…

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Happy birthday, brother.

kingsjester on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

He isn’t running, because:
1) his buddy Jeb is definitely running, IMO
2) he’d have to give up his Senate seat. Can’t be on the ballot for both.
He’s far more likely to wait until 2020 or 2024. Same applies to Rand Paul.
Right Wingnut on February 3, 2014 at 4:34 PM

I think you’re right. Jeb Bush is running.

Do you think Cruz will run this time?

bluegill on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Apparently immigration is the only litmus test now.

Illinidiva on February 3, 2014 at 4:35 PM

It’s the only one that matters.

Meople on February 3, 2014 at 4:37 PM

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

OK. Bye.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:35 PM

thatsafactjack on February 3, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Illinidiva on February 3, 2014 at 4:33 PM

A loss is a loss.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 4:37 PM

No we can’t run Cruz he doesn’t have mass GOPe appeal.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Meh, seems like more of a ‘feature’ than a bug.

Fallon on February 3, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Y’all keep it up. Bashing the base has just done wonders for you so far.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 4:33 PM

So pointing out that someone comes across as unlikeable is bashing the base now. I’m sorry Cruz reminds me of the brown-noser in school who reminded the teacher to give the class homework and snitched on you when you were chewing gum.

Illinidiva on February 3, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Illinidiva on February 3, 2014 at 4:35 PM

My grandfather came here legally. He was 3 at the time.
My blog dad came here legally. His parents applied to immigrate before his was born. his family arrived here from Brazil when he was SIX!
Marco wants to reward border-jumpers! Criminals deserve NOTHING!
%^&^ him and those like him!!!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 3, 2014 at 4:39 PM

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

So why do you do what you do? We are no where near 2016 and you think insulting everyone on this site because they aren’t ready to commit to just anyone is a winning strategy. Cripes, just wait and see.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 4:40 PM

He may have disappointed the base but he doesn’t seem to disdain them.

No… I think anyone who gives more than half a thought to what Rubio pulled with Amnesty does disdain him. Look at what he did, he made deals with the devil to get something passed, he lied with a straight face to anyone who called him out on it… he went on a lying tour in fact completely misrepresenting what his bill would do to the country, he went completely against what he promised during his Senate race, and he pretty much burned any kind of credibility he once had.

But hey, if you want a younger, more hispanic McCain… this is your guy. Now excuse me while I go get a drink of water, I think I vomited a little.

Ukiah on February 3, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Do you think Cruz will run this time?

bluegill on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Y’all better quit trying to recruit my senator!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Illinidiva on February 3, 2014 at 4:38 PM

You mean the Class President?

Fallon on February 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Where’s Fred when we need him. //

BacaDog on February 3, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Teh Fred?

Wherever there’s a reverse mortgage to be pitched, he’ll be there…

JohnGalt23 on February 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Not bashing the base. I consider myself conservative…
terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Who wrote the following then?

Go ahead sit out “true conservatives.” No one will ever please you anyways… So whine all you want.
terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Anyone who supports mass illegal alien amnesty is no conservative. Mass illegal alien amnesty would be a gift for Democrats that keeps on giving for decades.

bluegill on February 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Being that I’m in Texas-I will be voting straight GOP this year..again-but come 2016…there may be races that I skip.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 3, 2014 at 4:35 PM

You’re a fellow Texan. Our votes in a presidential election don’t matter anyways. Our state is going red in 2016 anyways.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM

OK. Bye.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Already changed my affiliation away from the GOP, they lost me right after the 2012 a$$-beating.

Mainly due to the establishment’s insistence on perpetually nominating and running dimocRat-lite, big-government, progressive types for Congress and President.

That and I really don’t appreciate it when my own party declares war on me, and fights harder against Conservatives than they do against DimocRats.

Meople on February 3, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Ted Cruz on immigration reform at Texas Tribune Fest 2013

And in print: Ted Cruz Aims For Middle Ground on Immigration Reform This interview was twelve days before the government shut down/ObamaCare filibuster.

thatsafactjack on February 3, 2014 at 4:42 PM

You mean like the reasonableness and compromise the Dims showed the country in 2009 and 2010?

People always talk about “reasonableness and compromise” when what they’re really meaning is that the opposition surrenders, shuts up and goes away.

Meople on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

No.. The Hope! and Change! game that Barry played in 2008. That is what we need.

A loss is a loss.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 4:37 PM

But a 40 State landslide means losing the House.

Illinidiva on February 3, 2014 at 4:42 PM

I think you’re right. Jeb Bush is running.
Do you think Cruz will run this time?
bluegill on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

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I’m hopeful. Unlike Paul and Rubio, he has nothing to lose.

Right Wingnut on February 3, 2014 at 4:43 PM

El Presidente Flipflopio Comboverio … um, no.

M240H on February 3, 2014 at 4:43 PM

thatsafactjack on February 3, 2014 at 4:37 PM

LoL

jaime on February 3, 2014 at 4:43 PM

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

And I might consider myself to be a 6 foot tall rabbit.
Just because I consider myself to be something-doesn’t make it true.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 3, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Ah yes, stick with the status quo from the usual gaggle of reprobates.

No thanks.

Murphy9 on February 3, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Not bashing the base. I consider myself conservative….it’s only when I come to places like this I’m a big ol’ lefty. But just being honest….no one will ever please you guys.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Frankly, we’re never asked. We are told that we must support a worthless social liberal with some thread of fiscal conservatism. Then we’re lectured on how we must put aside our concerns for the good of the party or something.

No more, it’s your guys turn to STFU and let the GOP run a real conservative. Rubio isn’t that guy.

Happy Nomad on February 3, 2014 at 4:45 PM

So why do you do what you do? We are no where near 2016 and you think insulting everyone on this site because they aren’t ready to commit to just anyone is a winning strategy. Cripes, just wait and see.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 4:40 PM

You don’t have to commit to anyone yet. But this “He’s a Vinchy Republican” “He’s a trader!” “He’s not even natural born” stuff is a bit ridiculous.

terryannonline on February 3, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Illinidiva on February 3, 2014 at 4:38 PM

I am sorry, I didn’t know that you were the arbiter of who is and isn’t likable. And you put it so nicely, ” I was going to mention the fact that he was an incredibly smarmy know-it-all with the same personality defects as Obama.”. I’ll point out that Obama won. Twice.

Cindy Munford on February 3, 2014 at 4:45 PM

No Senators! Executives only.
Besides, unless he changes his position on amnesty (how come its never evolving when pols come around to our side) he’s unacceptable.

Iblis on February 3, 2014 at 4:46 PM

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