Obama: I’d accept an immigration bill without a path to citizenship

posted at 9:21 am on January 31, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Jake Tapper got an exclusive interview with Barack Obama for CNN, which will air today, but CNN is already teasing some of the highlights and a short exchange on jobs. More intriguing, however, is an apparent concession on immigration. Despite his years-long insistence on path to citizenship being part of any comprehensive reform package, Obama praised the Republican effort in the House and backed away from that demand:

The one area where Obama says he believes he can work with Republicans is on the subject of immigration and the path to citizenship, a cornerstone issue for Democrats.

The major sticking point between Democrats and Republicans will likely be whether or not the estimated 11 million undocumented workers in this country be given a path to citizenship. Obama refused to say whether he would veto a bill that did not contain such a provision; it is likely that House Republicans would not pass any bill that included a path to citizenship.

“I’m not going to prejudge what gets to my desk,” he said.

On Thursday, House Republicans released a one-page document that outlined what they called the standards of immigration reform, which calls for legal status, but not citizenship.

That’s not to say that he’s going to stop talking about the path to citizenship entirely, but it no longer sounds like a non-negotiable point:

“I think the principle that we don’t want two classes of people in America is a principle that a lot of people agree with, not just me and not just Democrats. But I am encouraged by what Speaker (John) Boehner has said,” Obama said.

“… I genuinely believe that Speaker Boehner and a number of House Republicans, folks like Paul Ryan, really do want to get a serious immigration reform bill done. And keep in mind that the Senate bill and the legislation that I’ve supported already calls for a very long process of earning citizenship. You had to pay fines. You had to learn English. You had to pay back taxes. And you had to go to the back of the line. And at the end of that, you could get citizenship.”

The “I’m not going to prejudge what gets to my desk” line is silly. All Presidents pre-judge bills before they get to desks, and they usually take steps to prevent bills they dislike from getting there. The inboxes of journalists are filled with White House statements on bills that haven’t even come up for a vote, threatening vetoes if they pass (or expressing presidential support for the bills they like). If Obama wanted to stick to his guns on the path to citizenship, he’d make that clear now.

Obama actually has a point about creating classes of residents through bans on citizenship. As Allahpundit and Greg Sargent noted yesterday, though, we’re not talking about bans, but the elimination of a special process for the currently illegal. Obama’s earlier insistence on special paths to citizenship created its own class of people who were both illegal and had an inside track to citizenship through regularization. We already have a path to citizenship called “naturalization,” and there’s no reason to create a fast-track path for others who entered illegally. In that sense, the GOP statement makes more sense than previous proposals, and doesn’t put the currently illegal in front of those who are already waiting for naturalization.

It still moves them ahead for legal residency over those waiting to enter, though, no matter how one parses it. That would be worthwhile if — and this is a huge if — we actually secure the borders through proven and verifiable barrier technology and other efforts and overhaul the visa system to track people accurately when they overstay or otherwise violate the applicable terms. A deal which doesn’t deliver that should be rejected out of hand. Period.

As for the timing, Allahpundit wondered why the GOP didn’t just do this last year to allow the anger from grassroots groups to die off before the election. I suspect that the timing was to make sure that opposition to comprehensive immigration reform didn’t generate funding for primary challengers early enough in the cycle to become serious threats by the spring of 2014. But then again, I’m cynical that way — even if I do think that a swap of regularization for true border security and visa-system overhaul is a good deal that benefits national security much more than it damages anything else.

Here’s a glimpse of the interview with Tapper, which talks more about jobs than immigration. Note that the unspoken context of the discussion of the chronically unemployed is the failure of the big-government intervention of the stimulus, as Obama talks about … more big-government intervention.


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Lets face it, obozo never wanted citizenship, he only wanted the destruction of America.

Flange on January 31, 2014 at 9:24 AM

Boehner what are you doing?

Mr. Joe on January 31, 2014 at 9:24 AM

The timing of this is insane. Why now? Why?

Mr. Joe on January 31, 2014 at 9:25 AM

I don’t believe a word any of them say on this issue. Period!

TarheelBen on January 31, 2014 at 9:26 AM

More intriguing, however, is an apparent concession on immigration

Illegals is not an issue of “immigration”. I wish people would stop saying that.

And to call this a concession … puh-lease …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 31, 2014 at 9:27 AM

I like Roger Simon’s idea just to see the demorats twist themselves into pretzels over it:

“Illegal immigrants, assuming they have lived here for a decent period of time and have not committed a felony, can have amnesty, but they can NEVER be allowed to vote. They can do anything else that is legal, but if they want to vote — or run for office or practice law in our country, as just happened in California — they must return home and go through the normal immigrant application process, however long that may take until they have citizenship.”

“Harumph harumph! Bluster! But but but but…!” from the left.

Bishop on January 31, 2014 at 9:28 AM

I’m not going to watch it, having had my fill for one week, but did he say ‘I have a pen’?

If they send him anything he’ll massage it with Executive Orders to whatever he wants it to be.

Drained Brain on January 31, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Classic Obama feint.

This is simply to draw more Republicans into going along with Boehner and Co.

The guy is lying his arse off, as always.

catmman on January 31, 2014 at 9:29 AM

“I think the principle that we don’t want two classes of people in America is a principle that a lot of people agree with, not just me and not just Democrats. But I am encouraged by what Speaker (John) Boehner has said,” Obama said.

Pal, we have two classes of people now…

The employed and the unemployed…nothing new, but you have brought it to a whole new level.

right2bright on January 31, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Obama legacy….. amnesty! With the gop help

cmsinaz on January 31, 2014 at 9:29 AM

These people are idiots.

p0s3r on January 31, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Because Obama knows that citizenship will be granted by the courts in that scenario.

Steve Eggleston on January 31, 2014 at 9:30 AM

The timing of this is insane. Why now? Why?

Mr. Joe on January 31, 2014 at 9:25 AM

I said it yesterday – it’s the final blow-off of conservatives by El Partido Republicano Legado. They don’t want us and they don’t want us to want them.

Steve Eggleston on January 31, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Exactamundo drained brain

cmsinaz on January 31, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Of course he’ll sign a bill without a path to citizenship. First of all, he knows the Democrat/media complex will demagogue the GOP into submission on it further down the road. Second, it takes care of amnesty which is all the Dems need at the moment to guarantee eventual citizenship and cause an immediate civil war within the Republican Party. And third, Obama always has the option to rewrite(or ignore) the law as he sees fit since apparently Boehner and McConnell lack the testicular fortitude to do anything about it.

Doughboy on January 31, 2014 at 9:31 AM

“I’m not going to prejudge what gets to my desk,” he said.

He’d better hope the Democrats don’t lose the Senate because Harry Reid has been a buffer for him on this matter up to this point. Harry makes sure no controversial legislation reaches Obama’s desk for a signing or veto.

DaveDief on January 31, 2014 at 9:32 AM

I’m not going to watch it, having had my fill for one week, but did he say ‘I have a pen’?

If they send him anything he’ll massage it with Executive Orders to whatever he wants it to be.

Drained Brain on January 31, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Yes. It’s a trap. Apparently the “pen and phone threat” didn’t poll well. So now he’s acting like “president compromising bipartisan”

Brat on January 31, 2014 at 9:33 AM

He will just change the law as he sees fit.

WisCon on January 31, 2014 at 9:33 AM

Obama: I’d accept an immigration bill without a path to citizenship

And I’d change it with a stroke of my pen.

Rovin on January 31, 2014 at 9:35 AM

It still moves them ahead for legal residency over those waiting to enter, though, no matter how one parses it. That would be worthwhile if — and this is a huge if — we actually secure the borders through proven and verifiable barrier technology and other efforts and overhaul the visa system to track people accurately when they overstay or otherwise violate the applicable terms. A deal which doesn’t deliver that should be rejected out of hand. Period.

I disagree that this bill would be worthwhile with verified border security in it. We should not reward he illegal behavior that these people have knowingly engaged in. If we catch them, they shoud go back to where they came from. If we don’t catch them, then they stay “in the shadows” and they don’t get access to any kind of welfare assistance. Period.

Bitter Clinger on January 31, 2014 at 9:35 AM

Get them legal residency now, then in a couple of years it will be “second class citizenship is unfair, they deserve the right to vote!”

Half the loaf now, the other half later. Same as with nationalizing healthcare.

rbj on January 31, 2014 at 9:35 AM

I don’t believe a word any of them say on this issue. Period!

TarheelBen on January 31, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Exactly. None hold credence any longer. Article 5 of the U.S.Constitution allows us to legally remove these lawless vermin and re institute law. Let the people of the United States take back the country from these scoundrels.
Let justice deal with these tyrants. Let them see the enlightenment of long prison sentences. Begin with the collaborating Rino’s.

onomo on January 31, 2014 at 9:35 AM

Politicians gonna politique. Still think they can fix what politicians broke?

gryphon202 on January 31, 2014 at 9:38 AM

“I’m not going to prejudge what gets to my desk.”

Good deal, glad to hear you have an open mind. Cruz is sending over a repeal 0Care authorization package for your review.

Bmore on January 31, 2014 at 9:38 AM

The one and only promise the rat-eared traitor will actually keep: If you like your open border, you can keep your open border.

TXUS on January 31, 2014 at 9:39 AM

I don’t believe a word any of them say on this issue. Period!

TarheelBen on January 31, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Exactly. None hold credence any longer. Article 5 of the U.S.Constitution allows us to legally remove these lawless vermin and re institute law. Let the people of the United States take back the country from these scoundrels.
Let justice deal with these tyrants. Let them see the enlightenment of long prison sentences. Begin with the collaborating Rino’s.

onomo on January 31, 2014 at 9:35 AM

Not just Article V. Let’s pass nullification acts in our state legislatures that give country sheriffs the power to detain federal agents that move within the respective states without authorization. And as for states like California and Ill-annoy? Screw ‘em. They can have their dictatorships.

gryphon202 on January 31, 2014 at 9:40 AM

You had to pay fines. You had to learn English. You had to pay back taxes. And you had to go to the back of the line. And at the end of that, you could get citizenship.”

Except that the Secretary (of DHS, who announced last weekend that he believes illegal aliens have already “earned” the right to be citizens, by virtue of their persistent law-breaking over many years) will have the unlimited power to waive those fines.

And the requirement to “learn English” will never be enforced.

And the requirement to “pay back taxes” will never be enforced (mainly because it can’t be enforced since most illegals who work have been working off the books, as amnesty shills have already conceded).

And illegal aliens don’t really go to “the back of the line,” because the “back of the line” is back in their own country.

Also, notice how Obama omitted the usual “tough background checks” requirement. Apparently even he can’t keep a straight face long enough to pretend that’s going to be a requirement. Last time he did, when he signed his illegal EO giving amnesty to so-called “DREAMers” it turned out (after an FOIA request was served on DHS) that nobody was doing those “required” background checks on illegal aliens to make sure they’re not criminals, gang-bangers, etc. DHS admitted it never had the money or manpower to perform hundreds of thousands of background checks, so it has just been taking the illegal aliens’ word that they’re not a criminal, gang-banger, etc., because illegal aliens would never lie to get legal status, right?

Of course, this is just the fine print to Obama’s promise. Americans won’t find out about it until after the amnesty deal is done. Then Obama will do another “what I said was, you can keep your plan if your plan hasn’t already been canceled” rationalization. Or maybe he won’t even bother. Maybe he’ll just laugh at what rubes Americans are, falling for the exact same con time and time again.

AZCoyote on January 31, 2014 at 9:40 AM

Get them legal residency now, then in a couple of years it will be “second class citizenship is unfair, they deserve the right to vote!”

Half the loaf now, the other half later. Same as with nationalizing healthcare.

rbj on January 31, 2014 at 9:35 AM

And by “a couple of years”, you mean, “just in time for the 2016 Presidential election”, right?

Steve Eggleston on January 31, 2014 at 9:40 AM

And by “a couple of years”, you mean, “just in time for the 2016 Presidential election”, right?

Steve Eggleston on January 31, 2014 at 9:40 AM

Eggy, I’ve never seen clearer proof in my life that the Republicans are trying to out-liberal the Democrats. When are my fellow Americans going to wake up to that fact?!

gryphon202 on January 31, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Any legislation that creates a class out of illegals is ultimately going to be a path to citizenship. A lazy effing moron like Obama understands that even as Bohener and Ryan think we all are too stupid to see they are trying to backdoor amnesty.

If the game plan is to keep the focus on the Obamacare debacle, why in the hell are the surrender weasels trying to force the GOP into accepting amnesty for illegal aliens. It only divides the GOP.

Happy Nomad on January 31, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Leave it to these lame Republicans to mess up this election which is squarely in our favor. Why do they want to have Obamacare put on the “oh look, a squirrel” list? They should spend the whole year pounding on Obamacare, not an issue only 3% of the population gives a flying rat’s ass about.

Stupid is as stupid does. No way around that.

NJ Red on January 31, 2014 at 9:43 AM

I do think that a swap of regularization for true border security and visa-system overhaul is a good deal that benefits national security much more than it damages anything else.

I do agree with this Ed, but with strict verifiable criteria for border security etc. also an overhaul of the legal immigrations system to move us away from family based chain migration to skills/education based immigration.

jdivito on January 31, 2014 at 9:43 AM

And BTW- Ryan, the military-hating bastard, was out there emphatic that border security had to come first. Shouldn’t border security be a priority no matter what is decided about illegal aliens. It is a completely separate issue from “immigration reform” and Ryan’s quest to give amnesty tgo illegals.

Happy Nomad on January 31, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Sorry, no.

Anything that ‘legalizes’ them is simply a precursor to the follow-up cries of ‘second class citizen’, ‘unfair’, and calls for them to be granted citizenship and voting rights in short order.

This has already been described by these guys (including Obama) in the last couple of months, who have said they might not be able to get comprehensive done all at once, but will do it piecemeal, and in the end, will have what they want and the public will be none the wiser.

Midas on January 31, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Leave it to these lame Republicans to mess up this election which is squarely in our favor. Why do they want to have Obamacare put on the “oh look, a squirrel” list? They should spend the whole year pounding on Obamacare, not an issue only 3% of the population gives a flying rat’s ass about.

Stupid is as stupid does. No way around that.

NJ Red on January 31, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Because the people who own them, the ones they actually work for (not us) – Chamber of Commerce and other money – are calling the shots.

Midas on January 31, 2014 at 9:46 AM

I do think that a swap of regularization for true border security and visa-system overhaul is a good deal that benefits national security much more than it damages anything else.

I do agree with this Ed, but with strict verifiable criteria for border security etc. also an overhaul of the legal immigrations system to move us away from family based chain migration to skills/education based immigration.

jdivito on January 31, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Laughable that anyone would put any trust in FedGov these days. When SHTF, I hope you people are proud of yourselves.

gryphon202 on January 31, 2014 at 9:47 AM

Where’s that link to the Star Wars clip of that puppet saying

“It’s a trap, It’s a trap!”

If Republicans wanted Democrats to retain control of the Senate, would they be doing anything differently?

Youngs98 on January 31, 2014 at 9:48 AM

And BTW- Ryan, the military-hating bastard, was out there emphatic that border security had to come first. Shouldn’t border security be a priority no matter what is decided about illegal aliens. It is a completely separate issue from “immigration reform” and Ryan’s quest to give amnesty tgo illegals.

Happy Nomad on January 31, 2014 at 9:44 AM

This this this! A million times this!

To all the politicians that think they can horse trade something else for national security, one of the few actual constitutional duties of FedGov, kindly get bent.

gryphon202 on January 31, 2014 at 9:48 AM

He knows he will just get it done later or do it with his pen or phone which, you may have heard, he has.

If the GOP does this I’ll never bother to vote for a Republican as long as I live. We don’t need more labor. We need more jobs.

My husband has a STEM degree and works for a large corporation. A year ago their team was reduced by sending home those on work visas and temporary contractors. Honestly, who really needs more STEM people? Were are these jobs that cannot be filled? As far as my experience with two large well known employers, they are not short on workers. If this is just a way to let citizens go and keep cheaper foreign labor then no amount of fake borer security is worth it.

magicbeans on January 31, 2014 at 9:49 AM

If Republicans wanted Democrats to retain control of the Senate, would they be doing anything differently?

Youngs98 on January 31, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Nope.

Hey Hawky! Look! It’s another one of my sockpuppets!

gryphon202 on January 31, 2014 at 9:49 AM

Obama: I’d accept an immigration bill without a path to citizenship

Of course…

*wink, wink*

He also backed civil unions over “marriage”. Get the nose under the tent, then find a way to get the rest of the camel in.

I can’t believe Boehner and company are going to destroy America just to show the TEA party who’s boss. What a petty man.

Fallon on January 31, 2014 at 9:52 AM

And by “a couple of years”, you mean, “just in time for the 2016 Presidential election”, right?

Steve Eggleston on January 31, 2014 at 9:40 AM

Normally, I’d put it at 5-10 years, but the Fascist-Democrats are hemorrhaging so many voters that yes, they need new voters for Hillary! in 2016.

And the US Chamber of Commerce is going along with it.

rbj on January 31, 2014 at 9:52 AM

“Harumph harumph! Bluster! But but but but…!” from the left.

Bishop on January 31, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Simon’s idea is stupid.

If it actually passed, it wouldn’t take the Dems even 1 week to start screaming about “the disenfranchised underclass we’ve created in America”.

It’s the same with what Obama’s suggesting now. The Dems are masters at the long game. Anything that moves the needle in the direction they want is acceptable. Fight one battle at a time. Win it. Work on the next battle.

Chris of Rights on January 31, 2014 at 9:55 AM

So let’s put Galllup’s #15 ranked item in terms of Americans’ priorities and make it #1 in Congress…we are so hosed.

hillsoftx on January 31, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Despite his years-long insistence on path to citizenship being part of any comprehensive reform package, Obama praised the Republican effort in the House and backed away from that demand:

It’s a deal with the devil.

Truly, snakeoil. Can ANYone trust ANYTHING this man says?

His objective is so clear by now and that continues: to do whatever he can from whatever angle he can by himself or through others to ruin the USA as the nation it is and has been up to now.

Obama will say whatever he can to appear as one thing while being another. No “deal” with Obama will ever prove to be good for the nation.

Lourdes on January 31, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Eggy, I’ve never seen clearer proof in my life that the Republicans are trying to out-liberal the Democrats. When are my fellow Americans going to wake up to that fact?!

gryphon202 on January 31, 2014 at 9:41 AM

The pot’s been boiling too long.

Steve Eggleston on January 31, 2014 at 10:02 AM

The democrats are fighting a war to win control and power over America.

The republicans think they’re negotiating country-club style with honorable people who’ll keep their word and live by the bargains they make.

They’re making chumps of the average American. They all disgust me.

LilyBart on January 31, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Spot on azcoyote

cmsinaz on January 31, 2014 at 10:03 AM

How about a path to citizenship for any of them who turn in, say, five criminals, gang members, visa overstayers, identity thieves, identify fabricators, or entitlement cheats?

BuckeyeSam on January 31, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Because Obama knows that citizenship will be granted by the courts in that scenario.

Steve Eggleston on January 31, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Exactly. It’s the same old incrementalism..over and over and over. Why do people keep falling for the same old scam?

Mimzey on January 31, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Chris of Rights on January 31, 2014 at 9:55 AM

I know, I would just like to see it thrown out there to watch the demorats eyes bulge as they try to stick to their “it’s the humanitarian thing to do” argument without having voting rights attached.

Bishop on January 31, 2014 at 10:09 AM

AZCoyote on January 31, 2014 at 9:40 AM

There are always vows of enforcement conditions and yet they are never realized. This is the ongoing game played by the proamnesty-undo-America crowd.

Lourdes on January 31, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Obama: I’d accept an immigration bill without a path to citizenship

Of course he would… Because once he gets it, he can do as he pleases with executive orders. Just like Obamacare and everything else.

kevinkristy on January 31, 2014 at 10:14 AM

watch the demorats eyes bulge as they try to stick to their “it’s the humanitarian thing to do”

What’s the humanitarian thing to do is to defend the United States of America, legislate on behalf of us citizens and to enforce our laws.

It’s way past time that the Progressive-Left in elected office get booted out if they can’t stand that idea: this nation elected them, this nation pays them, this nation requires them to serve us and not foreign nationals and other governments.

Lourdes on January 31, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Because Obama knows that citizenship will be granted by the courts in that scenario.

Steve Eggleston on January 31, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Exactly. It’s the same old incrementalism..over and over and over. Why do people keep falling for the same old scam?

Mimzey on January 31, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Why do people keep falling for the same old scam?

I ask myself that question every single day…

Lourdes on January 31, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Holder, the cartels, their teeth are in the neck of this nation.

That is what is behind this *mysteriously timed* Obama statement. Must get those fruit and vegetables to the cartel…

Lourdes on January 31, 2014 at 10:17 AM

I do think that a swap of regularization for true border security and visa-system overhaul is a good deal that benefits national security much more than it damages anything else.

LOL. Throwing the concept of the nation-state out the window and puking all over the idea of national sovereignty … great stuff, there.

Explain to me what “true border security” means without interior enforcement. Please. I’m dying to hear this.

And it’s called “treason”, not “regularization”.

I’m so fed up with the idiocy that this monstrous catastrophe pukes up from all corners … And all the intellectually offensive lies that get forwarded as some sort of defense of chaos. I would say it’s unbelievable but I’ve been watching it go on for years. Year after year after year.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 31, 2014 at 10:17 AM

Shouldn’t border security be a priority no matter what is decided about illegal aliens.

Happy Nomad on January 31, 2014 at 9:44 AM

That^.
Politicians are little more than union goons. They won’t act unless there’s something in it for them.
It’s like your house is on fire and union firemen would threaten to let it burn unless you provide concessions to them..which they know will inevitably to exactly what they want to gain. Then that won’t be enough and they’ll push for just a liiitle bit more.

Mimzey on January 31, 2014 at 10:17 AM

If all of the posters here can foresee the blindingly obvious, is there any doubt that the politicians can too and that Republicans are bringing this forward on behalf of the chamber of commerce rather than us lowlier constituents?

Drained Brain on January 31, 2014 at 10:19 AM

And the US Chamber of Commerce is going along with it.

rbj on January 31, 2014 at 9:52 AM

It’s time for an expose on just who it is who funds the Chamber of Commerce.

Lourdes on January 31, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Mixed messages?

First Lady’s New Initiative: ‘College, Whatever It Takes’

Obama: College degree not needed for a good career

They are on every side of an issue, depending on who they are talking to… they lie. Why should immigration be any different?

Fallon on January 31, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Everybody that actually believes this charlatan please call me, I have several large bridges to sell.

rplat on January 31, 2014 at 10:22 AM

I think the principle that we don’t want two classes of people in America is a principle that a lot of people agree with

Right. We don’t want legal citizens and illegal aliens cohabiting the nation. That’s why we have laws saying they can’t be here.

You want to eliminate “class status” of citizenship, maybe start by enforcing the law that says they shouldn’t be here in the first place. Government has a solution; you’re just not implementing it, and then blaming the system for your (inherited but ongoing) malfeasance.

The Schaef on January 31, 2014 at 10:30 AM

Yo… Purple Lips…… hows ’bout you enforce the Immigration and Nationality Act that exists today instead of try’n to pass new legislation that ya just gonna ignore tomorrow…. What an azz clown

roflmmfao

donabernathy on January 31, 2014 at 10:35 AM

The timing of this is insane. Why now? Why?

Mr. Joe on January 31, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Because:

1. They’re getting paid and they want their money
2. They’re trying to purge/punish conservatives and Tea Partiers

It’s really that simple.

Doomberg on January 31, 2014 at 10:36 AM

Obama, et al. = The Enemy Within.

BuckeyeSam on January 31, 2014 at 10:40 AM

If all of the posters here can foresee the blindingly obvious, is there any doubt that the politicians can too and that Republicans are bringing this forward on behalf of the chamber of commerce rather than us lowlier constituents?

Drained Brain on January 31, 2014 at 10:19 AM

I have no doubt.

Mimzey on January 31, 2014 at 10:41 AM

Too bad we can’t get Obozo to immigrate to Mexico. Word is that they won’t take him.

GarandFan on January 31, 2014 at 10:47 AM

Any status leads to citizenship and OBAMA knows that.

It’s not the border, it’s the ability to work, live, and receive benefits. Take that away and they will self deport, saving the US taxpayer TRILLIONS of dollars

aniptofar on January 31, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Not doing anything also has its risks – Obama will use executive action for some fixes to the immigration system. Fixes that may be impossible to roll back down the line. For eg: Legalization of dreamers is now a certainty – no one has called for his executive action on this to be rolled back.

That executive order alone probably got him a few more percentage points in minority votes in 2012.

It is better to have a bill on our terms – with no amnesty and very limited legalization.

This will also allow us to fix legal immigration which is held hostage to amnesty – Legal immigrations needs to move to skills based from family based the diversity visa which is used mainly by people from Mideast and North African countries also needs to be abolished.

jdivito on January 31, 2014 at 10:51 AM

“I’m not going to prejudge what gets to my desk,” he said.

HA!!! This coming from the man who said, “I don’t know – not having been there and not seeing all the facts –” then” Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody…”

-west

mr_west on January 31, 2014 at 10:51 AM

If the GOP had any guts they would insist that those waiting in line legally got the same breaks as the illegals.

Why don’t they? I would be pretty angry if I was one of them.

PattyJ on January 31, 2014 at 11:00 AM

Obama will use executive action for some fixes to the immigration system. Fixes that may be impossible to roll back down the line.

Any “executive action” taken illegally can be rolled back with the stroke of a pen or a lawsuit. Any legislation passed will not be possible to be rolled back because it will be a completely legal granting of citizenship.

It is better to have a bill on our terms – with no amnesty and very limited legalization.

This will also allow us to fix legal immigration which is held hostage to amnesty – Legal immigrations needs to move to skills based from family based the diversity visa which is used mainly by people from Mideast and North African countries also needs to be abolished.

jdivito on January 31, 2014 at 10:51 AM

The bill will not be on “our terms.” It will be full amnesty or else a preparatory step to full amnesty. Every illegal in the country will be voting by 2016, and they will not be voting for us, even if we get them amnesty. Republicans need to get over this fantasy that amnestied illegals are going to vote for them. It’s never going to happen.

No “fixes” to illegal immigration will be allowed either, and neither the Democrats nor the Republicans want them. We only have two options here – full, complete amnesty or the status quo. Pick one and stop spinning fairy tales about “fixes.”

Doomberg on January 31, 2014 at 11:01 AM

Obama: I’d accept an immigration bill without a path to citizenship

Hopefully that statement will piss off enough democrats to kill the whole deal……

Let’s see if the GOP will ride to rescue Obama.

redguy on January 31, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Not having citizenship never stopped him before.

Anyway, typical Obama head-fake. He does not negotiate so taking these throwaway lines as part of willingness to work with others is an error.

He will double-down and accelerate his demands. He wants these Mexican votes ASAP, by any means necessary.

virgo on January 31, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Just remember, folks. The GOP is better than the Dems or something.

/ptooey

gryphon202 on January 31, 2014 at 11:23 AM

Any legislation that allows illegals to remain in the country and grants them work permits is amnesty and completely unacceptable. The path to citizenship for illegals lies in their home countries. They need to return to their home countries and wait in the back of the line there. As all legal immigrants do. To give illegals ANYTHING at a time of high unemployment for citizen, with no border security and a liar sitting in the WH is an outrage.

Hera on January 31, 2014 at 11:23 AM

No sooner did Senator Jeff Sessions deliver his Immigration Memo to House Republicans https://t.co/FirqTCUMLm than the irky, troubled Zuckerberg smears “anti-immigration groups” as “shocking extremists”…

http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/31/zuckerberg-group-distributes-memo-on-the-shocking-extremism-behind-anti-immigrant-groups/

Lourdes on January 31, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Republicans… this is what you would call a red flag.

Ukiah on January 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM

“My thingie, er pen, is not as big as I told you in the SOTU” — pajama-obama

Go to Hades, all traitors for amnesty, in any form, from any side.

Schadenfreude on January 31, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Having a special class of residents/citizens is exactly what is called for. We have extraordinary circumstances, ie, 30 years of Congressional inaction and disregard for maintaining our borders that has created a series of problem, if not threats, to our country. I prefer that we rely on the Constitution at every possible moment (and each law passed by Congress should cross-reference Constitutional or legal authority), but to selectively use the prohibition of creating special classes seems quite selective.

We all know that this is the piecemeal approach to citizenship for the 11 million illegals but many do not know that some of the current laws would allow their family members to also gain foothold here. The actual number of new citizens might exceed 20 million.

Historically that would be called an invasion.

theFantom on January 31, 2014 at 11:44 AM

And keep in mind that the Senate bill and the legislation that I’ve supported already calls for a very long process of earning citizenship. You had to pay fines. You had to learn English. You had to pay back taxes.

They didn’t do it last time, and they won’t do it this time, either.

English – http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/09/Grassley-Immigration-bill-is-1986-amnesty-all-over-again

Nope.

Taxes-

As Vitter correctly states, the IRCA amnesty was immediate, but enforcement came later, and the same legislators and political groups who had insisted on amnesty as a trade-off for enforcement began immediately to undermine the enforcement provisions. For example, within a few years Massachusetts Democrat Sen. Ted Kennedy was spearheading an effort to repeal the employer sanctions, an effort that came to a halt only after Corretta Scott King, on behalf of the Black Leadership Forum, published a letter in opposition.

Proponents of the 1986 amnesty frequently referred to illegal aliens as “undocumented taxpayers” on the grounds that their employers were withholding taxes that paid for government benefits, such as a Social Security pension, that most would never receive. The premise was implicitly endorsed by the House Judiciary Committee, whose report on IRCA stated that the “undocumented alien population” had “contributed to the United States in myriad ways, including providing their labor and tax dollars.” (Report of the Committee on the Judiciary, H.R. 97-890 (Part 1), at 35. Emphasis added.)

On January 28, 1987, then-Rep. Schumer wrote a letter to the Secretary of the Treasury, urging the government “immediately” to issue a regulation declaring that illegal aliens applying for permanent residence pursuant to IRCA were exempt from section 6039E. Schumer argued that Congress “did not intend” that illegal aliens amnestied by IRCA would be subject to the tax disclosure requirements that Congress had enacted two weeks earlier. According to Schumer: “Obviously, we could not have a successful legalization program if by submitting an application an alien became vulnerable to an enforcement action by the IRS.”

http://cis.org/what-back-taxes
http://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/king-letter.pdf
http://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/Amnesty-Schumer-letter-on-Taxes.pdf

Nope.

If his lips are moving, it’s a lie.

Patriot Vet on January 31, 2014 at 11:46 AM

With this position on immigration, Obama outs himself as a RINO!

philw1776 on January 31, 2014 at 11:53 AM

…they want to build up a third party…for some reason?

KOOLAID2 on January 31, 2014 at 12:00 PM

For a permanent foot in the door, press#2. If you need help, call the RNC as they have a sales pitch for we useful idiots that will outdo Shamwow!

Don L on January 31, 2014 at 12:08 PM

obama looks the part, stupid.

Schadenfreude on January 31, 2014 at 12:16 PM

even if I do think that a swap of regularization for true border security and visa-system overhaul is a good deal that benefits national security much more than it damages anything else.

pro-amnesty Ed Morrissey

What a disgrace. I can’t believe this is what the blogging on a site founded by Michelle Malkin (a national treasure who remains strong for immigration law enforcement) has come to.

Ed Morrissey is willing to trade illegal alien amnesty for supposed “true border security.”

Our right to a secure border should NEVER be dependent on whether or not there is mass illegal alien amnesty. The two shouldn’t even be linked.

bluegill on January 31, 2014 at 12:30 PM

We already have a path to citizenship called “naturalization,” and there’s no reason to create a fast-track path for others who entered illegally.

Great, so we don’t need immigration reform then. Illegal aliens can return home, apply and wait their turn to enter legally like everyone else.

Wigglesworth on January 31, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Obama: I’d accept an immigration bill without a path to citizenship

Yes, he’ll grant the path to citizenship with an executive order. He has a pen and a phone after all!

cajunpatriot on January 31, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Obama: “I’d accept an immigration bill without a path to citizenship.”

Well, it really doesn’t matter …you’re already here, & you’re on your 2nd term – we can’t exactly DEPORT YOU NOW!

easyt65 on January 31, 2014 at 2:31 PM

true border security

What exactly does true border security mean? How permanent is it? How do you know it will not become “untrue”? What will stop a President from turning off this true border security?

Bull crap.

KMav on January 31, 2014 at 4:17 PM