Here it is: House GOP releases its “Standards for Immigration Reform”

posted at 5:10 pm on January 30, 2014 by Allahpundit

Behold the long-awaited “statement of principles,” hot off the presses at today’s House Republican retreat. There are no surprises, or at least not yet: The statement’s so light on specifics, especially in the crucial final sentence, that it’s impossible to guess how bad the final deal might be.

Although if you guess “pretty bad,” you’re almost certainly on safe ground.

Standards for Immigration Reform

PREAMBLE
Our nation’s immigration system is broken and our laws are not being enforced. Washington’s failure to fix them is hurting our economy and jeopardizing our national security. The overriding purpose of our immigration system is to promote and further America’s national interests and that is not the case today. The serious problems in our immigration system must be solved, and we are committed to working in a bipartisan manner to solve them. But they cannot be solved with a single, massive piece of legislation that few have read and even fewer understand, and therefore, we will not go to a conference with the Senate’s immigration bill. The problems in our immigration system must be solved through a step-by-step, common-sense approach that starts with securing our country’s borders, enforcing our laws, and implementing robust enforcement measures. These are the principals guiding us in that effort.

Border Security and Interior Enforcement Must Come First
It is the fundamental duty of any government to secure its borders, and the United States is failing in this mission. We must secure our borders now and verify that they are secure. In addition, we must ensure now that when immigration reform is enacted, there will be a zero tolerance policy for those who cross the border illegally or overstay their visas in the future. Faced with a consistent pattern of administrations of both parties only selectively enforcing our nation’s immigration laws, we must enact reform that ensures that a President cannot unilaterally stop immigration enforcement.

Implement Entry-Exit Visa Tracking System
A fully functioning Entry-Exit system has been mandated by eight separate statutes over the last 17 years. At least three of these laws call for this system to be biometric, using technology to verify identity and prevent fraud. We must implement this system so we can identify and track down visitors who abuse our laws.

Employment Verification and Workplace Enforcement
In the 21st century it is unacceptable that the majority of employees have their work eligibility verified through a paper based system wrought with fraud. It is past time for this country to fully implement a workable electronic employment verification system.

Reforms to the Legal Immigration System
For far too long, the United States has emphasized extended family members and pure luck over employment-based immigration. This is inconsistent with nearly every other developed country. Every year thousands of foreign nationals pursue degrees at America’s colleges and universities, particularly in high skilled fields. Many of them want to use their expertise in U.S. industries that will spur economic growth and create jobs for Americans. When visas aren’t available, we end up exporting this labor and ingenuity to other countries. Visa and green card allocations need to reflect the needs of employers and the desire for these exceptional individuals to help grow our economy.

The goal of any temporary worker program should be to address the economic needs of the country and to strengthen our national security by allowing for realistic, enforceable, usable, legal paths for entry into the United States. Of particular concern are the needs of the agricultural industry, among others. It is imperative that these temporary workers are able to meet the economic needs of the country and do not displace or disadvantage American workers.

Youth
One of the great founding principles of our country was that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents. It is time to provide an opportunity for legal residence and citizenship for those who were brought to this country as children through no fault of their own, those who know no other place as home. For those who meet certain eligibility standards, and serve honorably in our military or attain a college degree, we will do just that.

Individuals Living Outside the Rule of Law
Our national and economic security depend on requiring people who are living and working here illegally to come forward and get right with the law. There will be no special path to citizenship for individuals who broke our nation’s immigration laws – that would be unfair to those immigrants who have played by the rules and harmful to promoting the rule of law. Rather, these persons could live legally and without fear in the U.S., but only if they were willing to admit their culpability, pass rigorous background checks, pay significant fines and back taxes, develop proficiency in English and American civics, and be able to support themselves and their families (without access to public benefits). Criminal aliens, gang members, and sex offenders and those who do not meet the above requirements will not be eligible for this program. Finally, none of this can happen before specific enforcement triggers have been implemented to fulfill our promise to the American people that from here on, our immigration laws will indeed be enforced.

As expected, per the “Youth” section, there’ll be a special path to citizenship for DREAMers but not for adult illegals. As for the final line, what sort of enforcement triggers are we talking about here? “No legalization until there’s been a measurable 50 percent drop in illegal immigration over five years” would be a trigger worth considering. “No legalization until DHS submits a border-security plan,” which is basically what the Gang of Eight prescribed, wouldn’t be. There’s a lot of devil in these details.

Sean Trende of RealClearPolitics started tweeting in total mystification after the statement was released as to why the GOP would be pushing amnesty now, of all moments. If they were dead set on doing this before the midterms, he reasoned, why not do it last year, to give conservative anger more time to cool before the big vote? Failing that, why not wait until next year, after the midterms, since no one expects the Latino vote to be decisive this fall? I have no answers to the first question but you know my answer to the second. I think Boehner’s afraid that if they wait another year, until the GOP holds the Senate as well, conservative expectations for a “tough” Republican-written law will be so high that the backlash when they fail to come through will be even more bitter than it’ll be if they do it this year. In fact, as another Twitter buddy speculated, it may be that Boehner expects so many more tea partiers in the House and Senate next year that he feels he has to act now, before they’re seated. If he waits, tea partiers might be strong enough in 2015 to block the sort of bill that his friends in the Chamber of Commerce want written. When push comes to shove, he, Ryan, and the rest of the leadership think conservative/independent anger over ObamaCare will wash away all of their sins come November, including a mortal sin on immigration. Even if they sell you out on this, they figure, you’ll still go to the polls to rebuke Obama for the millions of cancellations and higher premiums that his pet boondoggle has stuck America with. And honestly? I’m not sure they’re wrong.

Update: Good catch by Greg Sargent. There’s no special path to citizenship here for adult illegals, but neither is there anything that would preclude them for applying for green cards and citizenship later on through existing channels. In fact, Paul Ryan signaled yesterday that they would be able to apply. Go figure that the leadership didn’t want to highlight that footnote in their statement.

Update: A detail from immigration discussions at the GOP retreat. I’ll bet:

Another detail:


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#AMNESTY

reddevil on January 30, 2014 at 5:11 PM

If you like your sovereignty , you can keep your sovereignty.

dforston on January 30, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Traitors…

OmahaConservative on January 30, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Snatching defeat…… our squishy GOP

Amnesty by any other name

cmsinaz on January 30, 2014 at 5:12 PM

The statement’s so light on specifics, especially in the crucial final sentence, that it’s impossible to guess how bad the final deal might be.

It does contain a form of amnesty.

Aside from that, why trust anything these tools say or propose?

novaculus on January 30, 2014 at 5:13 PM

It’s amnesty.

If a Dreamer stays, the parents stay.

The goal of these employers are low wages, not ingenuity.

+70% of immigrants from south of the border are on welfare.

The GOP “leadership” is not leadership, it has sold us out.

aniptofar on January 30, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Need a name for this bill… Lobbyist Amnesty Act of 2014.

dforston on January 30, 2014 at 5:13 PM

#NOTGOING2HAPPEN

PolAgnostic on January 30, 2014 at 5:14 PM

I’m still trying to figure out how deporting an illegal alien who grew up in the US is punishing the child for the mistake of his parents. So, a kid becomes an adult and illegally remains in this country. Isn’t that his own mistake?

besser tot als rot on January 30, 2014 at 5:15 PM

If you like your sovereignty , you can keep your sovereignty.

dforston on January 30, 2014 at 5:12 PM

This…

Gohawgs on January 30, 2014 at 5:16 PM

If this passes, I plead with each and everyone one of you to not vote, or not vote Republican, in 2014.

besser tot als rot on January 30, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, all traitors.

With Republicans like this who needs Democrats.

rightwingyahooo on January 30, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Stupid, ignorant, pandering GOPe dopes! NO! This cannot stand! I will never vote for another R in my life if you do this. I am leaning Independent and this will put me over the edge. What you stupid Republicans don’t seem to grasp (and so far neither has the MSM) the numbers of us calling ourselves Independents is growing not because Dems are deserting the ship but because Republicans are. Look at the numbers RINOs. We WILL have enough to form a 3rd party for 2016 and what will you do then? If you want to permanently put your party at the back of the pack go ahead with this disastrous amnesty plan. Come 2016 Independents will be voting for Cruz or Lee. Bank on it!

Stupid traitors!

neyney on January 30, 2014 at 5:19 PM

These a**holes genuinely think we will continue to vote for them on the “lesser of two evils” principle.

Well, no I won’t.

M240H on January 30, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Voting rights?

cmsinaz on January 30, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Third party vote in protest. IF they are going to push democrat immigration plan, why not let democrats get elected so we can run against them in 2016?

Republicans lost Virginia because of 3rd party protest vote.

TAARP on January 30, 2014 at 5:20 PM

When push comes to shove, he, Ryan, and the rest of the leadership think conservative and independent anger over ObamaCare will wash away all other sins come November. Even if they sell you out on this, you’ll go to the polls to rebuke Obama for the millions of cancellations and higher premiums that his boondoggle has stuck America with. And honestly? I’m not sure they’re wrong.

I recall a Presidential candidate running in the 2012 Presidential election bet big on people going to the polls to rebuke Obama for the anemic / stagnating economy despite the cooked BLS numbers, the cooked GDP numbers, and declining real income…only to find out that betting big wasn’t enough given the MSM / LIV suppott for Obama.

Running this Amnesty charade now will not generate more GOP votes in November 2014 – or in November 2016. It’s only playing to the opposition and demonstrating that when it comes to the GOP establishment, their only real difference in the vision and agenda of the progressive Democrats is the speed at which they want to achieve that vision and agenda. And doing so with another massive bill that fails to address the core problems is just repeating past mistakes while expecting different results.

It makes no difference if we go down the wrong road at 200mph or 100mph – we’re still going down the wrong road and in the wrong direction.

Athos on January 30, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Gohawgs on January 30, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Where you been? You are missed down there.

Bmore on January 30, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Individuals Living Outside the Rule of Law

I at least give them credit for coming up with a new euphemism for illegal alien.

Mark1971 on January 30, 2014 at 5:22 PM

In the room in Cambridge: Rep says a “lot of frustration” about “why now?”

With ObamaCare, 2014 should have been a slam dunk for the GOP. Everyone thought amnesty was dead for 2014. Between amnesty, folding on the debt ceiling limit and bashing conservatives to please Thomas Donohue and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the GOP should be able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory once again in 2014.

Those of you who thought Reince Preibus was a moron in 2012 didn’t know the half of it.

bw222 on January 30, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Our nation’s immigration system is broken and our laws are not being enforced.

Then Congress should take responsibility for making sure the immigration laws it has passed are being ENFORCED.

Don’t pass any new immigration laws until Congress figures out how to ENFORCE the laws we already have.

wren on January 30, 2014 at 5:23 PM

It’s only playing to the opposition and demonstrating that when it comes to the GOP establishment, their only real difference in the vision and agenda of the progressive Democrats is the speed at which they want to achieve that vision and agenda.

Athos on January 30, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Actually, I’m not even sure if the speed is different. The only difference, really, is which cronies are feeding at the trough.

besser tot als rot on January 30, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Pass a bill or don’t. This is so dumb.

libfreeordie on January 30, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Kabuki theater.

They want to pass one massive bill in one shot but know that will never pass the house. So we go this route…

Besides the whole first sentence … The overarching Message Is completely asinine.

To wit: “immigration laws are not being enforced, ergo new laws are needed.”

Wtf?!?

Can you imagine our Declaration of Independence written as “when in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them and replace them with different bands which will be better.”

Skywise on January 30, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Bmore on January 30, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Lurking some, commenting even less, up here and at MM…

Gohawgs on January 30, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Ask every single candidate who is running for Federal, State, or Local office in your district to explain their position on ILLEGAL immigration with specific details, at every single campaign stop.

Then only vote for candidates who are in favor of ENFORCING U.S. laws against ILLEGAL immigration.

wren on January 30, 2014 at 5:26 PM

It’s just nuts to try this now.

Even if we got an ideal bill through Congress, who trusts Obama to faithfully execute the enforcement provisions?

Pat Buchanan said pushing for this now will end Boehner’s Speakership. It could, except it seems all the rest of the House leadership is on board, too. It’s hard to beat someone with no one.

Adjoran on January 30, 2014 at 5:27 PM

brought in before age of 18, deport parents and put kid into process. if kid not yet adult split family and put kid up for adoption.
parents can make choice, take kid with them when deported or let kid stay.

dmacleo on January 30, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Individuals Living Outside the Rule of Law
……Rather, these persons could live legally and without fear in the U.S., but only if they were willing to admit their culpability, pass rigorous background checks, pay significant fines and back taxes…

Background checks from the identity they stole? How about their criminal background from their home country. And, can you pay fines and back taxes with EBT cards?

Please see 1986.

HornetSting on January 30, 2014 at 5:28 PM

I noticed that too sky wise….why not enforce the laws currently in the books

cmsinaz on January 30, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Refer to: The 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli Act signed into law by President Ronald Reagan.

Most if not ALL of what you are proposing is already cover and being superseded by Executive Fiat. There hasn’t been one President since the Law was signed who enforced it, including republicans.

The entire lot of you are dead to me.

De Oppresso Liber on January 30, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Ace gets this one right:

GOP Announces Declaration of Principles For Why You Should Vote Third Party

besser tot als rot on January 30, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Sean Trende of RealClearPolitics started tweeting in total mystification after the statement was released as to why the GOP would be pushing amnesty now, of all moments. If they were dead set on doing this before the midterms, he reasoned, why not do it last year, to give conservative anger more time to cool before the big vote?

Because this is the final blow-off to conservatives from El PRL.

Steve Eggleston on January 30, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Yepper Steve

cmsinaz on January 30, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Heck, if the Republican party is so bent on destroying the country then why should we reward that with job security? They’ve proven inept in dismantling Obamacare, they really think anger at that program will have people running their way???

Forget them, vote only for Tea Party candidates and stay home for the rest… even if Dems keep the Senate, take over the House… how much worse can it be after the Republicans have already opened the floodgates and guaranteed ruin for our nation? I feel no love for the party of Amnesty and at this point I can’t argue against the LET IT BURN! crowd.

Boehner… you pulled a boner.

Ukiah on January 30, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Sean Trende of RealClearPolitics started tweeting in total mystification after the statement was released as to why the GOP would be pushing amnesty now, of all moments.

Because…THEY FEAR THE TEA PARTY!

If he waits, tea partiers might be strong enough in 2015 to block the sort of bill that his friends in the Chamber of Commerce want written.

I used to respect Paul Ryan. Not anymore. He needs to be primaried out. What in the hell did Romney do to the boy? Suck out all his conservative ideals? Looks like it to me. I guess Romney showed Ryan the “Big Picture”….
Do they really think that the illegal aliens will be a voting block for the GOP? Are they that delusional to actually think that? On top of all this, they just gave Obama and his train wreck Obamacare a HUGE pass going into November!
This country is screwed!

JimmyGee on January 30, 2014 at 5:32 PM

One of the great founding principles of our country was that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents.

Huh? When did this become a founding principle? Who writes this crap?

Children are normally not allowed to keep the money their parents brought home after robbing a bank. It is not punishment to send children back to the country of their birth. It is simply not letting them keep their parents’ ill-gotten gains.

And if the U.S. sent both the parents and the children back to their home country immediately after finding out that they were all in our country ILLEGALLY, then it would not be a hardship on the children. They would all simply be going home.

wren on January 30, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Failure to enforce immigration laws should be a Class C Felony.

J_Crater on January 30, 2014 at 5:36 PM

If there’s no laws being enforced… Rescind all the laws. If they want to come here and work let ‘em work. Drop the whole ID issue altogether except for voting and let everyone work AT WILL without government interference or income tax and employers can hire whomever they want or whatever pay they want. That will be TRUE liberty… But then were not really talking about liberty… Are we? But indentured servitude to the political class of our country.

Short of outsourcing politicians (which I’m beginning to warm up to… Sovereignty aside…) I think its time we restore freedom and liberty in politics and destroy the two party class system we’ve been forced into.

Skywise on January 30, 2014 at 5:38 PM

The enemy within is the most dangerous enemy.

The liberals attack us to our faces.

These “Moderate Republicans” stab us in our backs.

portlandon on January 30, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Both of my middle fingers are raised in salute to this ‘document’ and it’s authors. I can hold this pose until November.

ElectricPhase on January 30, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Here it is: House GOP releases its “Standards for Immigration Reform”

Soooo, the GOP has decided they’re not interested in winning elections, after all.

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 30, 2014 at 5:40 PM

It’s a minor relief that they’re so incompetent that they’ll never achieve their goals.

aquaviva on January 30, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Time to oust Boehner.

Stoic Patriot on January 30, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Principles

Boehner and Ryan: Bought and Owned by the Serf Wanting Chamber of Commerce.

VorDaj on January 30, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Might as well include funding for voter registration drives in Mexico.

El_Terrible on January 30, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Snatching defeat…… our squishy GOP

Amnesty by any other name

cmsinaz on January 30, 2014 at 5:12 PM

It’s because Obama and Obamacare are so bad that they feel embolden to act on immigration. They feel that these circumstances are the only ones that will cover an amnesty, and they are right. The rage of the base is probably going to be negated for years, at least 2016. They are counting on you not having a long memory, and hating Hilary, so if you want your revenge President Hilary will probably be the cost. It’s not bad calculus for the GOP, but it’s a shame they don’t use those math skills against the Democrats. It seems they save their ruthless maneuvering for their own base.

DFCtomm on January 30, 2014 at 5:44 PM

“No legalization until DHS submits a border-security plan,

SO DHS writes a fantastic “plan” with a solid border fence, patrolling ICE agests each mile, etc., and send this piece of paper around.

Presto! Legalization! No requirement of implementation at all.

Wethal on January 30, 2014 at 5:44 PM

That’s my question…. will they have voting rights?

cmsinaz on January 30, 2014 at 5:44 PM

There hasn’t been one President since the Law was signed who enforced it, including republicans.
De Oppresso Liber on January 30, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Nor a Congress that funded enforcement.

Another Drew on January 30, 2014 at 5:44 PM

So, how many votes are needed to replace Boehner as speaker?

midgeorgian on January 30, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Ace gets this one right:

GOP Announces Declaration of Principles For Why You Should Vote Third Party

besser tot als rot on January 30, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Voting third party basically means handing the White House and Congres to the Democrats for a couple more elections.

Nobody really wants that except the Democrats.

And yet, the GOP has found a way to make the pain of launching a third party worthwhile.

Idiots.

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 30, 2014 at 5:45 PM

The first four principles are fine – border security, exit tracking, reforming legal immigration are all priorities that have been neglected for too long. Not reforming legal immigration has prevented us from phasing out family based chain migration.

There seems to be more support for legalizing dreamers – but this should be done with stricter criteria. Dreamers can get work/student visas after all the checks but no green cards or path to citizenship. green cards (permanent residency to those who enlist)

For the last principle – pass a bill that says congress will consider legalization when the first 4 principles are implemented. Legalization means work visas only – no green cards, no pathway to citizenship.

jdivito on January 30, 2014 at 5:46 PM

One of the great founding principles of our country was that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents.

Apart from the fact that this is just plain false, how does this support the claim that we should then reward these “children” for their parents crime?

EastofEden on January 30, 2014 at 5:46 PM

“No legalization until there’s been a measurable 50 percent drop in illegal immigration over five years”

No it wouldn’t. So what if they enforce the border strongly for a while. What would stop Obama, Hillary, Christie or any other President for that matter once the desired measurement result has occurred to then end the strong enforcement. Announce that we need to lower the debt and so we are going to dramatically reduce border security? What would stop them?

All it takes is one lax year of border security every ten years as a window to let millions to funnel through. The ONLY meaningful long term border security is a real and large fence. Once its built it would be nearly impossible to remove. See the Great Wall as an example.

No fence, no meaningful security.

KMav on January 30, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Then only vote for candidates who are in favor of ENFORCING U.S. laws against ILLEGAL immigration.

wren on January 30, 2014 at 5:26 PM

You mean candidates like Rubio?

DFCtomm on January 30, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Unfreakingbelievable! GOP: Stuck on Stupid.

I am done.

islandman78 on January 30, 2014 at 5:47 PM

I’m still trying to figure out how deporting an illegal alien who grew up in the US is punishing the child for the mistake of his parents. So, a kid becomes an adult and illegally remains in this country. Isn’t that his own mistake?

besser tot als rot on January 30, 2014 at 5:15 PM

I actually sympathize for those people. Would you want to go to a war torn country with sky high crime and poverty when your friends are going off to college?

El_Terrible on January 30, 2014 at 5:48 PM

So when does a 3rd party start forming that I can actually support?

blue13326 on January 30, 2014 at 5:48 PM

I think this “standards” statement should be read in a Groucho Marx voice. Something like:

Here are our principles, the bedrock standards we will insist upon before allowing immigration reform.

And if you don’t like these principles … we have others.

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 30, 2014 at 5:48 PM

So, how many votes are needed to replace Boehner as speaker?
midgeorgian on January 30, 2014 at 5:45 PM

117!

Another Drew on January 30, 2014 at 5:49 PM

********* EnCouraging **************!!

Congress debates immigration reform legislation
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Immigration reform advocates call House Republican principles ‘encouraging’ – @washingtonpost
read more on washingtonpost.com
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/01/30/immigration-reform-advocates-praise-house-gop-principles/

canopfor on January 30, 2014 at 5:50 PM

So when does a 3rd party start forming that I can actually support?

blue13326 on January 30, 2014 at 5:48 PM

I’ve always been opposed to 3rd parties, but if the GOP passes this we should run a 3rd party candidate in every district where a Republican representative voted for this monstrosity.

midgeorgian on January 30, 2014 at 5:50 PM

In California, the state passed the “Trust Act,” banning law enforcement from checking peoples immigration status.

How do they plan on enforcing immigration laws, when the left is actively making it against the law to enforce immigration laws?

El_Terrible on January 30, 2014 at 5:50 PM

1. The Apache Nation fought unlimited illegal immigraqtion from Spain/Mexico comming over the Rio Grande for 400 years, we Americans can carry on the fight a bit longer.

2. I APACHEWHOKNOWS did misjudge Ted Cruz, he has backed down.
If he does not change we Texans will find another and try to beat Ted Cruz when he runs. We will try to unseat the current next RINO John Cornyn. Sorry that we mis judged Cruz, our bad.

3. Fight

4. Use Ambush.

5. Use truth.

6. If not you, I and all of U.S. are the New Apache.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 30, 2014 at 5:51 PM

If the current laws aren’t being enforced and dear leader is already circumventing the laws…what makes ANYONE think these laws will be enforced and dear leader says Pfft.. I’m going to ignore them

cmsinaz on January 30, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Honestly, if they had a so-called “Dreamers” amnesty ALONG WITH an absolute guarantee of NO AMNESTY, NO LEGALIZATION of ay sort for their parents, and border control, a lot of conservatives would get behind it. What they’re offering, though, is Dreamers amnesty and super-secret amnesty for their parents, uncles, cousins, grandparents, etc. It’s blanket amnesty. Eff em.

Rational Thought on January 30, 2014 at 5:52 PM

We don’t need no stinking amnesty #movetheriogrande

rik on January 30, 2014 at 5:52 PM

You bunch of AW@#&*DHOLES. TRAITORS.

Try’ them all for TREASON!

TX-96 on January 30, 2014 at 5:53 PM


Oh Poop:

immigration
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More:

House Republicans indicate they could allow legal status for some undocumented immigrants – @CBSPolitics
read more on cbsnews.com

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/us-senate-immigration-reform-deal/
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January 30, 2014, 4:50 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-republicans-back-legal-status-for-undocumented-immigrants/

canopfor on January 30, 2014 at 5:53 PM

“No legalization until there’s been a measurable 50 percent drop in illegal immigration over five years”

How would they know?

How does one measure the rate of illegal immigration?

Wethal on January 30, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Burn their phone lines down.

D.C and the home offices

Senate and House.

Democrat and Republican

Full court press.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 30, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Of course Canopfor :)

Loving it

cmsinaz on January 30, 2014 at 5:54 PM

I actually sympathize for those people. Would you want to go to a war torn country with sky high crime and poverty when your friends are going off to college?

El_Terrible on January 30, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Not saying that I don’t sympathize with them. Just that the Republican’s arguments are disingenuous.

besser tot als rot on January 30, 2014 at 5:55 PM

So when does a 3rd party start forming that I can actually support?

blue13326 on January 30, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Probably after Christie or Jeb Bush get the GOP nomination in 2016 and Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, or Rand Paul decide to also run.

besser tot als rot on January 30, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Alex, what is “HOW TO LOSE THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE WITH ONE STUPID BILL”.

stenwin77 on January 30, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Unprincipled donor whores. Pretty much sums it up.

Pass this amnesty and every member who had a hand in it can forget about ever getting a vote from me again. Ever.

thatsafactjack on January 30, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Alex, what is “HOW TO SNATCH DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY”

stenwin77 on January 30, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Alex, what is “IF THEY PASS THIS BILL I WILL NEVER, EVER AGAIN VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN”

stenwin77 on January 30, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Behold the long-awaited “statement of unprinciples,”

fify

Valkyriepundit on January 30, 2014 at 5:58 PM

So, how many votes are needed to replace Boehner as speaker?
midgeorgian on January 30, 2014 at 5:45 PM

I think you have to get a majority of the votes to be speaker. So Boehner would need slightly over 217 to be elected speaker. It would depend on how many R’s are in the house to determine how many would need to vote for someone else for Boehner not to get the speakership.

topdawg on January 30, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Our nation’s immigration system is broken and our laws are not being enforced…

Is our immigration system really broken? Every year millions of LEGAL immigrants emigrate to the United States. They spend, in many cases, years and thousands of dollars applying and waiting to gain the legal right to emigrate to this country and become a part of the American dream. Throughout our history, tens of millions LEGALLY emigrated to this country in order to embrace this country and what it stood for.

Where our system is broken is with our political leadership who do not push for the enforcement of the laws that are currently on the books. We don’t adequately secure our borders. We don’t properly administer / enforce our visa system for temporary visitors to this country. We don’t punish those whose first interaction with this country is to disrespect and break its laws – who believe that the laws don’t have to apply to them – and who believe that they are entitled to shared wealth just because they are here.

None of this bill fixes the core problem we face – our political leadership and their singular desire to maintain and expand their power. They offer appeasement in exchange for votes / support…trying to out progressive the progressives..via patronizing language and vapid spin.

The only thing that remains clear is their contempt towards the American people and traditional American values that united so many people from different races and nationalities for so long. This is no longer a government of the people, by the people, and for the people or a government based on a foundation of laws. It’s all about special interests, pandering, and the existence of the people to fund / serve the government.

Athos on January 30, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Alex, what is “HOW TO DESTROY THE GOP, FOREVER.”

stenwin77 on January 30, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Boehner is nothing but a toady for the US chamber of crony capitalism. This pos is just trying to cozy up so he can nail that lobbying job once he leaves congress.

jawkneemusic on January 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM

I liked Coulter’s headline on this the best

GOP CRAFTS PLAN TO WRECK THE COUNTRY, LOSE VOTERS

El_Terrible on January 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM

If the current laws aren’t being enforced and dear leader is already circumventing the laws…what makes ANYONE think these laws will be enforced and dear leader says Pfft.. I’m going to ignore them

cmsinaz on January 30, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Common sense tells you they won’t be enforced. We currently have good laws on the books regarding border security, but they were sabotaged and have been sabotaged in execution. If they were so gung ho about enforcement they would have fixed that to reduce the amount of illegals and reduce the pressure for an amnesty. The fact that they have refused to without an amnesty means they never will. We should have a poll on which year the next amnesty, the one after this one, will take place. I’m betting 2021.

DFCtomm on January 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM

So please tell me again why a third party is such a bad idea? When Republicans that originally respected (Rubio, Rand Paul, Paul Ryan) support liberal democratic policies, a third party is the only option. It won’t be a fast option, but it’s the only option that won’t result in the destruction of our country as we know it.

RoadRunner on January 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Alex, what is “CAN YOU SAY, PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON.”

stenwin77 on January 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 30, 2014 at 5:54 PM

I started calling and writing last week. Have called and written every day. All my congressmen, Boehner, Priebus, to say wave goodbye to my vote permanently if you pass this… and thanks and encouragement for Jeff Sessions for standing up for American citizens and the rule of law.

thatsafactjack on January 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM

So the House GOP principles amounts to… amnesty.

It’s really time to go for a third party.

Stoic Patriot on January 30, 2014 at 6:01 PM

It won’t be a fast option, but it’s the only option that won’t result in the destruction of our country as we know it.

RoadRunner on January 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM

It’s probably too late to avoid whatever consequences are currently incoming, but good luck with that.

DFCtomm on January 30, 2014 at 6:01 PM

1) I did not notice that Wren had posted essentially the same note. But in letters to the House leadership and other Representatives, including my own, I have pointed out how bad an argument Boehner offers for this. (Along with all the other reasons for not doing any of this.)

2) How is their arrogance (and stupidity) any different from Pelosi’s arrogance when she acted against the will of the people?

3) AP makes this remark:

Even if they sell you out on this, they figure, you’ll still go to the polls to rebuke Obama for the millions of cancellations and higher premiums that his pet boondoggle has stuck America with. And honestly? I’m not sure they’re wrong.

I have voted in every election — primaries, special elections, off-year, presidential — since I was first eligible a couple of decades ago (give or take).

I will close my checkbook and stay home in November if they do this. Every conservative I talk to similarly says this would be the final straw. If they are prepared to sell us out on everything — defunding, debt ceiling, continuing resolutions, and now this — if they are not willing to do everything in their power to stop the lawlessness, if they are willing to act like Democrats, if they are willing to lie — as Ryan did on MSNBC, as Rubio did last spring and summer, I can see no reason to prefer them to Pelosi. ((see above)

EastofEden on January 30, 2014 at 6:02 PM

they must think they’ll win their seats with democrat votes

DanMan on January 30, 2014 at 6:03 PM

So please tell me again why a third party is such a bad idea? When Republicans that originally respected (Rubio, Rand Paul, Paul Ryan) support liberal democratic policies, a third party is the only option. It won’t be a fast option, but it’s the only option that won’t result in the destruction of our country as we know it.
RoadRunner on January 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Because these knuckle draggers aren’t nearly as bad as the radical Marxists that would take over. We have to purge these people from the Republican Party. Otherwise democrats will retain control forever.

jawkneemusic on January 30, 2014 at 6:03 PM

It’s worse that ‘blanket amnesty’… it’s blanket amnesty with unlimited chain immigration so that all the relatives can come here, too.

The last amnesty saw five relatives brought into this nation on chain immigration for each amnesty recipient.

Grant amnesty to 11 million… add another average of 55 million more relatives joining them.

thatsafactjack on January 30, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Legalization, of any form, for those who’ve willfully shattered federal immigration law and spit on the rights of American citizens and legal immigrants is amnesty.

thatsafactjack on January 30, 2014 at 6:05 PM

If the GOP passes any immigration bill before November, I’ll vote against every (R) on the ballot.

Then if they pass it AFTER November, I’ll vote against every (R) on the ballot in 2016.

Obamnesty is the single biggest issue I’m basing my votes the next 3 years on.

Meople on January 30, 2014 at 6:08 PM

The second step after sealing the border and enforcing laws throughout the nation ought to be having these folks put their name on a list. Until we can quantify the size of the problem there’s no point in trying to devise a strategy.

John McCain was taped recently in Syria making the case that no country can survive with an influx the size of 10% of its population without significant disruption. I’ll wager there’s already at least 32 million and that doesn’t count the relatives this will lure.

Something like should only be done on our nation’s terms. Not special interests.

DanMan on January 30, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Well, if they truly believe the son should not be punished for the sins of the father then obviously none of us are responsible for the portion of the budget deficit that was run up before we came of age… right, Jagoffs?

But then that would be employing rhetoric in advancement of conservative principles which is something the Republican party is not in the business of doing.

There isn’t enough rope, and there aren’t enough lampposts in the country to clean up the problem we have with our ruling class.

Voluble on January 30, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Our elected representatives in Washington DC have closed their ears and refuse to hear what the constituents have to say! Well, we will remember in the 2014 elections. Just as a reminder, the only items in the Immigration bill for 2014 should be:

1. Close and protect the borders and AMERICAN citizens.
2. Arrest and deport ALL illegal aliens.
3. No Amnesty.
4. No more free food, housing, medical or education.
5. No more anchor babies.
6. No driver’s licenses or rights to vote in American elections.
7. No more jobs for illegals – all candidates must be E-Verified.
8. No more “sanctuary” cities; they should be deemed illegal.
9. ENGLISH ONLY….This is America.

What is so hard to understand about that????
The bigger question is: Why are you putting ILLEGAL CRIMINALS before American citizens??????

phoebe1 on January 30, 2014 at 6:10 PM

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