CNN poll: Just 30% would rather see Obama take executive action than work with Congress to solve problems

posted at 2:01 pm on January 29, 2014 by Allahpundit

A mandatory follow-up to that recent ABC/WaPo poll showing 52 percent support O using executive orders to accomplish his goals. What gives? How can we reconcile that result with this one?

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Look closely at the two questions and you’ll see why the numbers have changed. ABC/WaPo told the people being polled that presidents have the power to bypass Congress and then asked them if they favored that approach. Not only was that “question” leading by reassuring people that O’s actions were proper before asking for an opinion, it offered no alternative to executive action. CNN’s poll was savvier, laying two options before the audience and emphasizing that bills passed by a divided Congress would necessarily involve bipartisanship and cooperation. Voters like compromise; put that on the menu for them and support for executive unilateralism disintegrates. Then again, that doesn’t mean the two polls are mutually exclusive. CNN wants to know which of two lawmaking styles the public prefers; ABC/WaPo wants to know whether the public would accept it if Obama chooses a different option than they would. Answer: Yes, because many people are pure partisan hacks on this subject. As long as it’s their guy who’s sidestepping Congress by issuing presidential orders to push their party’s agenda, they’ll tolerate it, even if they spent the years 2005 through 2008 screeching about the White House assuming royal powers. This trend will reverse — on both sides — once a Republican’s back in office, although the tea party’s attention to constitutional limits makes me think a GOP president will have less room to maneuver than O does.

The good news in the CNN result, I think, is that there’s room to grow popular opposition to executive power grabs. Even in the ABC/WaPo poll, support and opposition for Obama’s executive orders among independents was split evenly at 49. Maybe the GOP can move the needle by prosecuting the constitutional case against this publicly (e.g., Ted Cruz has an op-ed about it in today’s Journal), but I think the only way to get opinion to move sharply is for O to abuse his power in some public-angering way. That’s how it was with the NSA: It was Snowden’s revelations, not Ron Wyden’s and Ron Paul’s criticisms over the years, that made things happen. Obama will try to pick his spots on when to use, or not use, executive orders to avoid that scenario, but maybe he won’t be able to help himself. If immigration reform goes nowhere in the House, amnesty fans will demand that he issue an order that de facto legalizes illegals. He might feel, politically, that he has no choice — and the wider public might not appreciate it. Stay tuned.

By the way, although the rest of the CNN poll was positive about last night’s SOTU, that’s par for the course for these things. People always, always rate the president’s agenda higher the day after than they did the day before. The noteworthy number this time is that just 44 percent said they were “very positive” about what O had to say — an impressive figure in isolation but not when you realize that that’s the lowest post-SOTU number of Obama’s presidency and lower than any post-SOTU number of Bush’s presidency save for his 2007 speech, when he was at the nadir of his second term.


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But WAPO told us yesterday that 52% wanted him to be King.

oldroy on January 29, 2014 at 2:02 PM

73% of HotAirians would prefer less reporting on east coast media polls…

DanMan on January 29, 2014 at 2:02 PM

“Toilets are unclogged and roads are paved”…and a bunch more crap about what “citizens make it a better union”.

Schadenfreude, pure, at the deflated god!

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2014 at 2:04 PM

His executive actions will be very limited and meaningless in the super vast majority of cases…

mnjg on January 29, 2014 at 2:05 PM

This trend will reverse — on both sides — once a Republican’s back in office, although the tea party’s attention to constitutional limits makes me think a GOP president will have less room to maneuver than O does.

Snarkmeister

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Boehner’s face says it all.

Biden looks like a lost kindergartner.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2014 at 2:07 PM

WaPo:

“Would you rather see Dog Eater take executive action to give everyone a free Corvette, a trip to Aruba, and a check for $1 million…OR…have him work with Congress which is packed full of baby killers and people who would drink your blood from a boot after slashing your throat?”

Bishop on January 29, 2014 at 2:08 PM

I’d contribute to have Barky and Moochelle exiled to someplace like Zimbabwe beyond their effin it up.

viking01 on January 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM

If immigration reform goes nowhere in the House, amnesty fans will demand that he issue an order that de facto legalizes illegals. He might feel, politically, that he has no choice — and the wider public might not appreciate it.

But the Chamber of Commerce will.

de rigueur on January 29, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Boehner’s face says it all.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2014 at 2:07 PM

That’s a good shade of orange for him.

Happy Nomad on January 29, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Too bad Libs aren’t into Star Wars comparisons anymore.

Ben Hur on January 29, 2014 at 2:12 PM

I’d contribute to have Barky and Moochelle exiled to someplace like Zimbabwe beyond their effin it up.

viking01 on January 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Why not Zimbabwe? Might be fun to watch dueling dictators.

Happy Nomad on January 29, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Bishop on January 29, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Winner,by 10 points.

docflash on January 29, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Did this azzhole ever observe Ds during Bush-chimpey’s speech?

The Republicans applauded, of course, for our troops. And when Mr. Obama noted that the son of a barkeep (Mr. Boehner) was able to become Speaker of the House.

But when the president talked about the Earned Income Tax Credit — long a Republican issue — they were dead silent.

It’s hard to believe that Republicans would want to come across as stubbornly partisan and coldhearted. But that’s how they came across on Tuesday night.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Even in the ABC/WaPo poll, support and opposition for Obama’s executive orders among independents was split evenly at 49.

Keep in mind that a noticeable amount of independents nowadays are ex-Republicans who have lost faith in the GOP but still don’t support Obama.

J.S.K. on January 29, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Corporatist 1%r, plutocrat obama

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2014 at 2:16 PM

….still waiting for my raise………

I find the number of people who applauded when he suggested the end of our financial woes could be found simply by giving everyone a raise quite startling.

It should have been dead quiet instead.

“Did he really just say that?”

BobMbx on January 29, 2014 at 2:17 PM

CNN’s poll was savvier wasn’t utterly devoid of anything resembling honesty, laying two options before the audience and emphasizing that bills passed by a divided Congress would necessarily involve bipartisanship and cooperation.

Kataklysmic on January 29, 2014 at 2:17 PM

What’s the polling on whether Ranger SFC Remsburg’s struggles and perseverance are reminiscent of Obama’s?

aquaviva on January 29, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Hmm, I suspect that 30% is composed of OWSers, deep-ecos (KXL), and of course the nihilists on the far left who want to toast all-organic marshmallows on the burning ruins of Western civilization.

In short, the “core constituency” of every Democratic leader since George McGovern.

The part you need to worry about is that The One is totally cool with just about everything they dream of doing to the rest of society.

clear ether

eon

eon on January 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM

That’s how it was with the NSA: It was Snowden’s revelations, not Ron Wyden’s and Ron Paul’s criticisms over the years, that made things happen.

I assume that you mean by “things happen” you mean “move public opinion” because nothing has really happened from a policy perspective.

besser tot als rot on January 29, 2014 at 2:21 PM

30% == hard core left/socialist/communist.

Dandapani on January 29, 2014 at 2:21 PM

What’s the polling on whether Ranger SFC Remsburg’s struggles and perseverance are reminiscent of Obama’s?

aquaviva on January 29, 2014 at 2:18 PM

That whole comparison is so offensive I wouldn’t even know where to begin in response in a family friendly way.

Frankly, I’m more surprised that more hasn’t been made that Paul Ryan was on his feet clapping joyfully when Obama brought up amnesty for the illegals.

It was bad enough when Ryan decided it was okay to look military pensions, including those of medically retired servicemembers. But now he’s dropping any pretense about favoring illegal aliens to helping our military. May he rot in hell.

Happy Nomad on January 29, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Of course, that 30% responding to the phone poll were called on their Obamaphones.

whatcat on January 29, 2014 at 2:24 PM

So, 30 percent of America still wants a King. Can we send them to Europe or their country of origin?

DDay on January 29, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Pajama-obama trouble

p.s.

Well, again, you’re underestimating the president. Bold prediction: this will be one of the most interesting, passionate and debated state of the union addresses in history.

People mistake Obama’s coolness for apathy. And they’re always wrong.

Tom_Shipley on January 28, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2014 at 2:26 PM

..but..but..but..that fat, tub of guts idiot on FNC rigs his “typical American Panel” with these mindless, mouth-breathing, mirror-fogging retards who think that President Stool Sample is just the bee’s knees.

Beyond tedious!

The War Planner on January 29, 2014 at 2:26 PM

Any poll question to respondents should start with this first:

Do you have any knowledge of how our government functions,
specifically, WHAT THE THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT ARE,and
Do we have a System of Checks and Balances.

if they cannot answer these two items correctly, they
are given the Alternate question.

Do you feel Justin Beiber is being mistreated in our Country?

ToddPA on January 29, 2014 at 2:26 PM

if they cannot answer these two items correctly, they
are given the Alternate question.

D

o you feel Justin Beiber is being mistreated in our Country?

ToddPA on January 29, 2014 at 2:26 PM

If they answer this one correclty, then move on
to the following;

Should Beyonce just give or*l on stage at the Grammy’s?

ToddPA on January 29, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Do you feel Justin Beiber is being mistreated in our Country?

ToddPA on January 29, 2014 at 2:26 PM

I honestly think that many in Congress need the alternate question.

And BTW, anybody who can answer the first question AND has an opinion about the second loses any credit for correctly answering the first. They are simply sneaky LIVs. The kind who claim they only watch PBS and listen to NPR while binging on Hoarders, Dance Moms, and Honey Boo Boo.

Happy Nomad on January 29, 2014 at 2:33 PM

Well, again, you’re underestimating the president. Bold prediction: this will be one of the most interesting, passionate and debated state of the union addresses in history.
People mistake Obama’s coolness for apathy. And they’re always wrong.
Tom_Shipley on January 28, 2014 at 8:25 PM

The speech was a dud. Just a divisive, extended, dishonest campaign speech from class warfare-playing Obama.

Tom, leave the prognosticating to Punxsutawney.

bluegill on January 29, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Obama just stated his intent to violate the constitution in a way that only a dictator would do.

May he suffer the wrath of all knowledgeable voters.

The Rock on January 29, 2014 at 2:35 PM

The good news in the CNN result, I think, is that there’s room to grow popular opposition to executive power grabs.

Dude … Un-Constitutional power grabs are not supposed to be stopped by “popular opposition”. The whole point of having a Constitution like the one we used to have was that there are certain powers that certain branches of the feral government CANNOT exercise, whether 3000% of the people want them or not.

It has always been, and remains, Congress’ job to impeach and get rid of a budding tyrant in the Oval Office (along with the whole lot of his brain-dead, America-hating, criminal junta). This is not a matter of some national plebiscite, which we didn’t even have in America (when it existed) but of one arm of the feral government doing its friggin job when another arm goes all Sukarno on us.

But … the GOP turds not only won’t impeach Barky, they are jumping on the dog-eating train with him and trying to give even more aid and comfort to an invading enemy. Now, the whole lot of them need to see the inside of courts for treason trials.

This whole pathetic situation is just totally out-of-control. It’s time for a national divorce so that those who still want to live in an American Constitutional Republic have that chance, while the leftists, Vichy GOPers, and their illegal pets can all go straight to hell in the American SOcialist Superstate sh!thole that they have all created, with their retarded Indonesian right at the top barking out orders and dictats to the little Nobel Savage worshiping subjects.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 29, 2014 at 2:35 PM

Womp womp

Chuck Schick on January 29, 2014 at 2:36 PM

Man, Obozo is in trouble. The 47% is now down to 30% . He is in deep kimchee!

neyney on January 29, 2014 at 2:37 PM

He doesn’t give a chit about you, Ds.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2014 at 2:37 PM

ToddPA on January 29, 2014 at 2:29 PM

I’m trying remember when another guy gets his G-string wearing wife on stage, grabs her azz for all to see and has her twerk the crowd. If that’s evolution send me back.

DanMan on January 29, 2014 at 2:37 PM

The CNN polling question is silly –
of course folks would prefer a ‘bipartisan compromise’.
But the public generally accepts that the GOP isn’t ever going to allow that to happen.

verbaluce on January 29, 2014 at 2:40 PM

People mistake Obama’s coolness for apathy. And they’re always wrong.

Tom_Shipley on January 28, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Silence is oftentimes mistaken as intelligence. Something you might think about when posting.

There was nothing interesting, passionate, or worth debating in the SOTU.

Happy Nomad on January 29, 2014 at 2:40 PM

The Shipley has hit the fan.

viking01 on January 29, 2014 at 2:43 PM

The CNN polling question is silly –
of course folks would prefer a ‘bipartisan compromise’.
But the public generally accepts that the GOP isn’t ever going to allow that to happen.

verbaluce on January 29, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Nice to see you coming around Verb.

DDay on January 29, 2014 at 2:51 PM

…of course folks would prefer a ‘bipartisan compromise’.
But the public generally accepts that the GOP isn’t ever going to allow that to happen.
 
verbaluce on January 29, 2014 at 2:40 PM

 
Each duly elected, and each representing constituents. Compromise is a failure for both, but only the president makes unilateral legislative decisions beyond, and in spite of, the consent of the governed.
 
Only one branch has the power to actively disenfranchise. Good point. Thanks for your help in pointing that out.

rogerb on January 29, 2014 at 3:20 PM

“of course folks would prefer a ‘bipartisan compromise’.
But the public generally accepts that the GOP isn’t ever going to allow that to happen.
verbaluce on January 29, 2014 at 2:40 PM”

Yet the only one who refuses to compromise is Obama who specifically states that he will not negotiate on the debt ceiling.

tommyboy on January 29, 2014 at 3:21 PM

I honestly worry about Shipley having a nervous breakdown. He doesn’t seem capable of being forced to come to terms with his stupidity – which is exactly what happens every time he comments on here.

blink on January 29, 2014 at 3:24 PM

He reminds me of a Berliner searching for a Russian phrasebook in April, 1945.

Thinking different words will somehow evade his bad choices in life.

viking01 on January 29, 2014 at 3:29 PM

And only 30% support a president taking matters into his own hands if bipartisan compromise doesn’t happen.

blink on January 29, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Skewing a skewed poll.
Interesting approach.

verbaluce on January 29, 2014 at 3:33 PM

I agree with the democratic party and the non US citizens who support changing our form of government to the Imperial dictatorship envisioned by the billionaire supporters and cronies of this president. Until all the benefits of working hard and saving have been transferred to the just a little more equal comrades who organize those who find the United States of America oppressive I shall weep for the vision of America.

duncantwn on January 29, 2014 at 3:48 PM

The CNN polling question is silly –
of course folks would prefer a ‘bipartisan compromise’.
But the public generally accepts that the GOP isn’t ever going to allow that to happen.

verbaluce on January 29, 2014 at 2:40 PM

point to ponder:

The last Debt Ceiling deal reached included as part of
the deal, no lengthening, or extension to Unemployment
compensation….but the Democrats reneged on that part
of that Deal just weeks ago….

Dealing with Democrats is how the American Indian felt
in dealing with the US Government from the 1820′s-1890′s.

But you already knew that didn’t you? In spite of your
nonsensical post.

ToddPA on January 29, 2014 at 3:51 PM

If we keep Obama or get rid of him let us do it for the right reasons not for partisan politics.

Keep in mind it is Congress that DID or DID NOT write the laws that at are the heart of our problems.
It is they who wrote the Health Care Law.
It is they who voted on the Health Care Law without reading it.
It is they who have not passed a budget in 5 years.
It is they who who have spent us into future oblivion.

It is these people that must truly be held accountable for their actions in the next and all future elections.

jpcpt03 on January 29, 2014 at 4:00 PM

I’d like to see Obama take an executive action – go golfing for the rest of his miserable f*cking term.

Marxism is for dummies on January 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM

The Shipley has hit the fan.

viking01 on January 29, 2014 at 2:43 PM

I honestly worry about Shipley having a nervous breakdown. He doesn’t seem capable of being forced to come to terms with his stupidity – which is exactly what happens every time he comments on here.

blink on January 29, 2014 at 3:24 PM

lol, that’s the same Shipley we all knew and laughed at when Ed ran Captain’s Quarters. What a cast of Leftist Loons-Ship, brayam, sesquipedalian…

Del Dolemonte on January 29, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Hussein: Why do I give a crap about what you peons think? I got me a pen…

riddick on January 29, 2014 at 8:54 PM