Open thread: Still three more of these to go, America, if you can believe it

posted at 8:01 pm on January 28, 2014 by Allahpundit

I really can’t believe it. Even Obama, I’ve always assumed, doesn’t want to do the SOTU but feels bound by a basic rule of politics in the age of mass media, that when television offers you a free platform to reach many millions of voters, you’ve got to take it. There’s no way to redeem a laborious 45-minute run-through of your party’s current policy wishlist, so don’t sweat it when it lands with a thud. Just show up, if only to show your party that you’re still trying.

And yet, here’s a line from his former speechwriter about the SOTU-writing process. What are we to make of this?

President Obama always wanted the speech to “sing,” as he put it

O does realize that not only have all five of his previous SOTUs been essentially the same, they’re also essentially the same as every SOTU delivered over the past 30 years, no? Watch the two clips below, or revisit Matt Welch’s guide on how to write an SOTU in 10 minutes using the same platitudinal flotsam that’s been salvaged and recycled by every president since JFK. Trying to make this speech sing is like trying to make a rendition of “Happy Birthday” sound transcendent. If you’re approaching it that way, you’re missing the point.

The long march begins at 9 p.m. ET but there’s usually some red-carpet-type stupidity happening half an hour or so before that on the cable news nets or C-SPAN. One of the “Duck Dynasty” guys will be there; so will pro basketball player/notable gay man Jason Collins; so will that kid who claimed to be one of the first people in America to sign up for ObamaCare before everyone realized that he hadn’t really signed up. In a few years, as the see-and-be-seen value of this spectacle completely overwhelms its news-making value, members of Congress will start inviting A-list celebrities for fun and the White House Correspondents Dinner-ization of the event will be complete. Which, actually, would be fitting: As Kevin Williamson writes, the SOTU long ago devolved into a dreary imitation of monarchy. Might as well have all the aristocrats there to watch.

The annual State of the Union pageant is a hideous, dispiriting, ugly, monotonous, un-American, un-republican, anti-democratic, dreary, backward, monarchical, retch-inducing, depressing, shameful, crypto-imperial display of official self-aggrandizement and piteous toadying, a black Mass during which every unholy order of teacup totalitarian and cringing courtier gathers under the towering dome of a faux-Roman temple to listen to a speech with no content given by a man with no content, to rise and to be seated as is called for by the order of worship — it is a wonder they have not started genuflecting — with one wretched representative of their number squirreled away in some well-upholstered Washington hidey-hole in order to preserve the illusion that those gathered constitute a special class of humanity without whom we could not live…

The State of the Union is only one example of the deepening, terrifying cult of the state that has taken root here. Many heads of state — and some royals, for that matter — fly on commercial aircraft. Presidents of the Swiss federation and members of the federal council receive . . . an unlimited train pass. They have occasional access to a Cessna maintained by the air force, but are known to use mass transit — just like the people they are elected to represent. An American president stages a Roman triumph every time he heads out for a round of golf. The president’s household costs well more than $1 billion annually to operate. The president’s visage is more ubiquitous than was Vladimir Lenin’s in his prime, his reach Alexandrian, his sense of immortality (they call it “legacy”) pharaonic. Washington has become a deeply weird and alien place, a Renaissance court with armored sedans and hundred-million-dollar paydays.

Excerpts from Obama’s speech have been released as I write this but I’m not going to go looking for them because who cares? You’ve heard all this before. The only somewhat new element, in perfect keeping with Williamson’s point, is that O will assert his royal prerogative to carry out his agenda via executive order if Congress refuses to comply. He’s semi-formally dispensing with the trappings of republican democracy at an event tailor-made for the occasion. Beyond that, the speech is Groundhog Day: It’s gonna be cold, it’s gonna be gray, and it’s gonna feel like it’ll last you for the rest of your life.

If you somehow make it all the way through, stay tuned for three — yes, really — GOP rebuttals. Cathy McMorris-Rogers will deliver the official one, doubtless featuring a specific appeal to women. Mike Lee will deliver a tea-party response blaming government for inequality and proposing new opportunities for the middle class. And Rand Paul, as is now tradition, will deliver a response of his own emphasizing Americans’ perennial top priority, jobs. Enjoy.



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libfreeAndLie:

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Whoa! What got into you??? YOU never make fun of anyone’s name!

Lanceman on January 28, 2014 at 11:02 PM

More Leftist propaganda from the Liar-in-Chief.

electricfunksandwich on January 28, 2014 at 11:02 PM

The homosexual commie in chief really made a fool out of himself, and his wide-load beard looked really pissed…

OmahaConservative on January 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

“I wish Shake Shack was open late. I definitely need a double cheezburger/xtra lg fries/lg milkshake/Diet Coke fix.” – MO

22044 on January 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

CNN is trying to give this flop SOTU crap CPR.

Punchenko on January 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

“I wish Shake Shack was open late. I definitely need a double cheezburger/xtra lg fries/lg milkshake/Diet Coke fix.” – MO

22044 on January 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

“You’ll get nothing and like it!”

Lanceman on January 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

I can’t believe you all sat here and acted like this speech means anything. The rest of us were gagging and laughing at the foolishness.

libfreeordie on January 28, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Racist.

Bishop on January 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Tweets All / No replies

The Associated Press ‏@AP 3m

FACT CHECK: The most recent evidence suggests that upward mobility hasn’t worsened: http://apne.ws/1ewcUtR #SOTU
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Jan 28, 10:55 PM EST

FACT CHECK: Obama and Medicare premiums

By CALVIN WOODWARD
Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — It seems to be something of an occupational hazard for President Barack Obama: When he talks about his health care law, he’s bound to hit a fact bump sooner or later.

So it went Tuesday night, when he declared Medicare premiums have stayed flat thanks to the law, when they’ve gone up. As for an even bigger theme of his State of the Union address, the president’s assertion that “upward mobility has stalled” in America runs contrary to recent research, while other findings support him.

A look at some of the facts and political circumstances behind his claims, along with a glance at the Republican response to his speech:

OBAMA: “Because of this (health care) law, no American can ever again be dropped or denied coverage for a preexisting condition like asthma, back pain or cancer. No woman can ever be charged more just because she’s a woman. And we did all this while adding years to Medicare’s finances, keeping Medicare premiums flat, and lowering prescription costs for millions of seniors.”

THE FACTS: He’s right that insurers can no longer turn people down because of medical problems, and they can’t charge higher premiums to women because of their sex. The law also lowered costs for seniors with high prescription drug bills. But Medicare’s monthly premium for outpatient care has gone up in recent years.

Although the basic premium remained the same this year at $104.90, it increased by $5 a month in 2013, up from $99.90 in 2012. Obama’s health care law also raised Medicare premiums for upper-income beneficiaries, and both the president and Republicans have proposed to expand that.

Finally, the degree to which the health care law improved Medicare finances is hotly debated. On paper, the program’s giant trust fund for inpatient care gained more than a decade of solvency because of cuts to service providers required under the health law. But in practice those savings cannot simultaneously be used to expand coverage for the uninsured and shore up Medicare.

OBAMA: “Today, after four years of economic growth, corporate profits and stock prices have rarely been higher, and those at the top have never done better. But average wages have barely budged. Inequality has deepened. Upward mobility has stalled.”

THE FACTS: The most recent evidence suggests that mobility hasn’t worsened. A team of economists led by Harvard’s Raj Chetty released a study last week that found the United States isn’t any less socially mobile than it was in the 1970s. Looking at children born between 1971 and 1993, the economists found that the odds of a child born in the poorest 20 percent of families making it into the top 20 percent hasn’t changed.

“We find that children entering the labor market today have the same chances of moving up in the income distribution (relative to their parents) as children born in the 1970s,” the authors said.

Still, other research has found that the United States isn’t as mobile a society as most Americans would like to believe. In a study of 22 countries, economist Miles Corak of the University of Ottawa found that the United States ranked 15th in social mobility. Only Italy and Britain among wealthy countries ranked lower. By some measures, children in the United States are as likely to inherit their parents’ economic status as their height.

OBAMA: “We’ll need Congress to protect more than 3 million jobs by finishing transportation and waterways bills this summer. But I will act on my own to slash bureaucracy and streamline the permitting process for key projects, so we can get more construction workers on the job as fast as possible.”

THE FACTS: Cutting rules and regulations doesn’t address what’s holding up most transportation projects, which is lack of money. The federal Highway Trust Fund will run out of money in August without action. To finance infrastructure projects, Obama wants Congress to raise taxes on businesses that keep profits or jobs overseas, but that idea has been a political nonstarter.

The number of projects affected by the administration’s efforts to cut red tape is relatively small, said Joshua Schank, president and CEO of the Eno Center for Transportation, a think tank. “The reason most of these projects are delayed is they don’t have enough money. So it’s great that you are expediting the review process, but the review process isn’t the problem. The problem is we don’t have enough money to invest in our infrastructure in the first place.”

OBAMA: “More than 9 million Americans have signed up for private health insurance or Medicaid coverage.”

THE FACTS: That’s not to say 9 million more Americans have gained insurance under the law.

The administration says about 6 million people have been determined to be eligible for Medicaid since Oct. 1 and an additional 3 million roughly have signed up for private health insurance through the new markets created by the health care law. That’s where Obama’s number of 9 million comes from. But it’s unclear how many in the Medicaid group were already eligible for the program or renewing existing coverage.

Likewise, it’s not known how many of those who signed up for private coverage were previously insured. A large survey released last week suggests the numbers of uninsured gaining coverage may be smaller. The Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index found that the uninsured rate for U.S. adults dropped by 1.2 percentage points in January, to 16.1 percent. That would translate to roughly 2 million to 3 million newly insured people since the law’s coverage expansion started Jan. 1.

OBAMA: “In the coming weeks, I will issue an executive order requiring federal contractors to pay their federally funded employees a fair wage of at least $10.10 an hour, because if you cook our troops’ meals or wash their dishes, you shouldn’t have to live in poverty.”

THE FACTS: This would be a hefty boost in the federal minimum wage, now $7.25, but not many would see it.

Most employees of federal contractors already earn more than $10.10. About 10 percent of those workers, roughly 200,000, might be covered by the higher minimum wage. But there are several wrinkles. The increase would not take effect until 2015 at the earliest and it doesn’t apply to existing federal contracts, only new ones. Renewed contracts also will be exempt from Obama’s order unless other terms of the agreement change, such as the type of work or number of employees needed.

Obama also said he’ll press Congress to raise the federal minimum wage overall. He tried that last year, seeking a $9 minimum, but Congress didn’t act.

REP. CATHY McMORRIS RODGERS of Washington, in her prepared Republican response: “Last month, more Americans stopped looking for a job than found one. Too many people are falling further and further behind because, right now, the president’s policies are making people’s lives harder.”

THE FACTS: She leaves out a significant factor in the high number of people who aren’t looking for jobs: Baby boomers are retiring.

It’s true that a large part of the still-high unemployment rate is due to jobless workers who have given up looking for a job. There are roughly three people seeking every job opening, a circumstance that can discourage others from trying. But one big reason people aren’t seeking employment is that there are so many boomers – the generation born in the immediate aftermath of World War II – and therefore more than the usual number of retirements.(More………………….)
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_STATE_OF_UNION_FACT_CHECK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

“I wish Shake Shack was open late. I definitely need a double cheezburger/xtra lg fries/lg milkshake/Diet Coke Diet Pepsi fix.” – MO

22044 on January 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

That sounds so good

gophergirl on January 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

So is it just me, or does anyone else think he is crying to Reggie that the country just doesn’t understand him?

uncommon sense on January 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Paul Krugman on CNN creepily said the Congresswoman representing the GOP lacked “substance”.

#CreepyDemocratsHateStrongWomen

Punchenko on January 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

The rest of us were gagging and laughing at the foolishness.

libfreeordie on January 28, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Racist.

Bishop on January 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Um, Bishop? I don’t think ‘gagging’ in that sentence means what you think it means…

Lanceman on January 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Is this what passes for trolls around here?

HornetSting on January 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

CNN is trying to give this flop SOTU crap CPR.

Punchenko on January 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

The Gettysburg Address combined with I Have A Dream, is that their take on it?

Bishop on January 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

“I wish Shake Shack was open late. I definitely need a double cheezburger/xtra lg fries/lg milkshake/Diet Coke Diet Pepsi fix.” – MO

22044 on January 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

That sounds so good

gophergirl on January 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

It really does, but wide-load-Michelle won’t let you have it…

OmahaConservative on January 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

“You’ll get nothing and like it!”

Lanceman on January 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Heh. Trouble in Paradise Obamatopia, I guess.

That sounds so good

gophergirl on January 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Heh!

22044 on January 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

The homosexual commie in chief really made a fool out of himself, and his wide-load beard looked really pissed…

OmahaConservative on January 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

So, is that really out of the ordinary sir?

arnold ziffel on January 28, 2014 at 11:10 PM

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The Associated Press ‏@AP 3m

Text of President Barack Obama’s State of the Union address: http://apne.ws/1i98U6T #SOTU
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https://twitter.com/AP

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Plop.

SparkPlug on January 28, 2014 at 11:10 PM

SparkPlug on January 28, 2014 at 11:10 PM

plop, fizz, fizz… I think everyone needs that after this turd burger

uncommon sense on January 28, 2014 at 11:10 PM

SOTU Pffft, may it come to pass!

22044 on January 28, 2014 at 11:11 PM

The homosexual-in-Chief has no credibility on anything…

OmahaConservative on January 28, 2014 at 11:12 PM

When Moochelle turns a corner her left cheeck jack knifes the right cheeck.

SparkPlug on January 28, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Super whiny SOTU tonight. It was embarrassing, to say the least.

Christien on January 28, 2014 at 11:12 PM

So, is that really out of the ordinary sir?

arnold ziffel on January 28, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Lolz, not at all…

OmahaConservative on January 28, 2014 at 11:13 PM

When Moochelle turns a corner her left cheeck jack knifes the right cheeck.

SparkPlug on January 28, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Butt she has a nice personality.

arnold ziffel on January 28, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Objects in mirror are smaller than they appear; so her butt is even scarier.

SparkPlug on January 28, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Butt she has a nice personality.

arnold ziffel on January 28, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Yikes!

OmahaConservative on January 28, 2014 at 11:14 PM

CNN is trying to give this flop SOTU crap CPR.

Punchenko on January 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

The Gettysburg Address combined with I Have A Dream, is that their take on it?

Bishop on January 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

That, and everything Barry outlined will SAVE AMERICA if only the GOP would go away and stuff.

They then had Paul Krugman — in his desperate, creepy, and condescending own way — knock the GOP response by Cathy McMorris-Rogers with mansplainations.

It was creepy. Paul Krugman talking about women is just creepy.

Punchenko on January 28, 2014 at 11:14 PM

A dull, yet uninspiring diatribe from the president, followed by a pointless cloying “rebuttal” from the other side.

Waste of time.

Next year, sign an executive order declaring no further need for these clown-shows. You want to be popular, right?

virgo on January 28, 2014 at 11:14 PM

libfreeAndLie:

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Whoa! What got into you??? YOU never make fun of anyone’s name!

Lanceman on January 28, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Lanceman:Me is bad,….yes, thee very first time,….Hopey’s SOTUA
was another Stealth “In Your Face”, and if “The GOP Stops
Hostageizing my Policies”, sumpins might get done:0

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:14 PM

John King called Barry’s speech at the end BRILLIANT and above the bar.

Punchenko on January 28, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Rand Paul slapped Wolf Blitzer aroud.

Punchenko on January 28, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Marlon Marshall ‏@MarlonDMarshall 2h

Watch the #SOTU live online at http://WH.gov/SOTU ! Afterwards I’ll moderate a discussion with WH senior staff. Join us!

Tune in now for our State of the Union #SOTUChat with administration officials → http://t.co/0wCbuDsiMA, http://t.co/jLuUzwIZII
28 Jan 2014 10:43PM

http://www.whitehouse.gov/SOTU

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:17 PM

John King called Barry’s speech at the end BRILLIANT and above the bar.

Punchenko on January 28, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Too bad he was just reading someone else’s crap.

tbear44 on January 28, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Moochelle could peel off aunt Esthers face with just her nasty scowl.

SparkPlug on January 28, 2014 at 11:18 PM

John King called Barry’s speech at the end BRILLIANT and above the bar.

Punchenko on January 28, 2014 at 11:15 PM

I’m thinking John King hears quite a few things that no one else does and that’s one of the many reasons that people run when he gets near.

Bishop on January 28, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Wolf was getting testy as Rand Paul swatted down every attempt by Wolf to get a damning soundbite out of him. It was masterful.

Punchenko on January 28, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Obama’s SOTU sings like Hillary drives.

Christien on January 28, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Barred on January 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

no shart

DanMan on January 28, 2014 at 11:19 PM

What kind of moron trumpets a speech that has nothing behind it but vacuous sounds?

Answer: the media morons.

SparkPlug on January 28, 2014 at 11:19 PM

*This State of the Union is about CONCRETE ACTION”:

WH Staff:

Tune in now for our State of the Union #SOTUChat with administration officials → http://t.co/0wCbuDsiMA, http://t.co/jLuUzwIZII
28 Jan 2014 10:43PM
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/SOTU

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Our media puts the old Soviet media to shame. Remember “fun-employment?” Now they’re trying to polish Turdbama’s lackluster performance tonight.

I expect “Was the SOTU a turning point? YES!” articles this week.

Punchenko on January 28, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Butt she has a nice personality arms.

arnold ziffel on January 28, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Remember when that was the big media push?

chewydog on January 28, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Samantha Power ‏@AmbassadorPower 17m

POTUS on #Iran negotiations: “For the sake of our national security, we must give diplomacy a chance to succeed.” #SOTU
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canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:21 PM

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The Associated Press ‏@AP 48s

Americans react to President Obama’s call for raising the minimum wage and immigration reform: http://apne.ws/MsEnGu #SOTU

https://twitter.com/AP

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:21 PM

*This State of the Union is about CONCRETE ACTION”:

WH Staff:

Tune in now for our State of the Union #SOTUChat with administration officials → http://t.co/0wCbuDsiMA, http://t.co/jLuUzwIZII
28 Jan 2014 10:43PM
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/SOTU

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:20 PM

All I hear is slurping……

HornetSting on January 28, 2014 at 11:21 PM

arnold ziffel on January 28, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Her butt is an orange cone zone.

SparkPlug on January 28, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Caren Bohan ‏@carenbohan 50m

After setbacks, Obama seeks to regain momentum, by @steveholland1 http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/29/us-usa-obama-speech-idUSBREA0R07T20140129
Retweeted by Reuters Politics

https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:23 PM

I just saw part of Rand Paul’s SOTU response. How lame! Economic freedom zones? Rand wants the government to pick winners and losers through placement of special crony zones! Wasn’t Obama pushing the same idea in the SOTU, Rand?

Mike Lee’s response was much better!

FloatingRock on January 28, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Her butt is an orange cone zone.

SparkPlug on January 28, 2014 at 11:22 PM

She sat on Bohener???

uncommon sense on January 28, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Are you planning on joining Steve “Stu” Burguiere ?

listens2glenn on January 28, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Not seriously.
Only during an Obama speech do I indulge in that fantasy. And even the fantasy is ruined, when I remember Harrison Ford in The Mosquito Coast.
Besides, they probably wouldn’t allow me to transfer my armory there.

justltl on January 28, 2014 at 11:24 PM

LOLZ. Britt Hume called Zero’s speech dull, and Meatloaf agrees…,

OmahaConservative on January 28, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Gabriel Debenedetti ‏@GDebenedetti 1h

Newly updated: Obama lays out go-it-alone approach in State of Union speech. http://reut.rs/1a0i05z (@steveholland1, @Reuters)
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Obama lays out go-it-alone approach in State of Union speech

By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:18pm EST
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/29/us-usa-obama-speech-idUSBREA0R07T20140129

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:25 PM

HEY Bishop !

The One’s speech/side show started just as I left the last reply to a conversation we had going, and I’m not sure you saw it.

So here’s the whole thing, from the beginning:
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“I’ve used my pen to order the construction of special camps in the east.”

WHAT????

Bishop on January 28, 2014 at 8:43 PM

.
I thought they were already constructed.

listens2glenn on January 28, 2014 at 8:45 PM
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I know, right? I’ve had my bag packed for days now, just waiting for the brownshirts to come get me so I can start my new life in the east in the resettlement.

Bishop on January 28, 2014 at 8:53 PM

.
Yeah, I’ll bet your bags are packed . . . . . . with Comp-5 !

listens2glenn on January 28, 2014 at 9:08 PM

listens2glenn on January 28, 2014 at 11:26 PM

When I saw Big Mooch turn around, I was reminded of Mother Ginger in the Nutcracker Suite.
I thought that perhaps she was hiding the human props in there and was issuing them forth as called upon.

justltl on January 28, 2014 at 11:28 PM

One Is The Loneliest Number – Three Dog Night (Lyrics)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5ab8BOu4LE

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:28 PM

FloatingRock on January 28, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Never liked Rand all that much. Libertarianism is wrong.

Lanceman on January 28, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Are you planning on joining Steve “Stu” Burguiere ?

listens2glenn on January 28, 2014 at 10:48 PM

.
Not seriously.
Only during an Obama speech do I indulge in that fantasy. And even the fantasy is ruined, when I remember Harrison Ford in The Mosquito Coast.
Besides, they probably wouldn’t allow me to transfer my armory there.

justltl on January 28, 2014 at 11:24 PM

.
That’s a good point. I’m not planning on moving there, but for giggles it would be interesting to know what their laws are on that issue.

listens2glenn on January 28, 2014 at 11:30 PM

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:20 PM

All I hear is slurping……

HornetSting on January 28, 2014 at 11:21 PM

HornetSting: I’m taking one for the team,

heres a Musical Ditty,….of the WH Staff Slurpping:)
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Frankie Goes To Hollywood – Relax (**Uncensored**)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLGbXHc-Ce0

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Never liked Rand all that much. Libertarianism is wrong.

Lanceman on January 28, 2014 at 11:29 PM

His idea isn’t libertarian. If it were I wouldn’t be complaining.

FloatingRock on January 28, 2014 at 11:33 PM

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The Associated Press ‏@AP 3m

Republican McMorris Rodgers says the GOP believes ‘in a government that trusts people’ http://apne.ws/1i9ilmI #SOTU

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:33 PM

His idea isn’t libertarian. If it were I wouldn’t be complaining.

FloatingRock on January 28, 2014 at 11:33 PM

No, I know that one ain’t. But libertarians are whacked out anyway, so that mindless idea of his isn’t a surprise.

Lanceman on January 28, 2014 at 11:35 PM

FROM: BachmannOverDrive TitaniumSpine!!

Ditch Mitch ‏@KYDitchMitch 4m

Words can’t describe how much I believe this woman should not represent any group of ppl. #BumpMicheleBachmann #sotu pic.twitter.com/DGq6yITu14

https://twitter.com/KYDitchMitch/status/428384472401448961/photo/1/large

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:36 PM

My twitter feed was on fire. I’d share them, but we know the stalkers around here are real and very weird. All I’ll say is that Merle Haggard’s son favorited one of my #SOTU tweets. Haha!

libfreeordie on January 28, 2014 at 11:42 PM

My twitter feed was on fire. I’d share them, but we know the stalkers around here are real and very weird. All I’ll say is that Merle Haggard’s son favorited one of my #SOTU tweets. Haha!

libfreeordie on January 28, 2014 at 11:42 PM

I’ll alert the media. /

HornetSting on January 28, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Obama’s speech sings like Roseann Barr’s version of the National Anthem.

neyney on January 28, 2014 at 11:48 PM

Nerdy Wonka ‏@NerdyWonka 4m

President Obama speaks about voting rights and equality. America: Yeah! Bravo! Duck Dynasty’s response? #SOTU pic.twitter.com/YmdIIs4fuh

https://twitter.com/NerdyWonka/status/428387265681702914/photo/1/large

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:48 PM

But libertarians are whacked out anyway, so that mindless idea of his isn’t a surprise.

Lanceman on January 28, 2014 at 11:35 PM

I beg your pardon?

John the Libertarian on January 28, 2014 at 11:48 PM

But libertarians are whacked out anyway, so that mindless idea of his isn’t a surprise.

Lanceman on January 28, 2014 at 11:35 PM

I’ll tell you what’s “whacked out” Lanceman. It’s that social cons believe they can regulate virtue. GOOD LUCK with that.

John the Libertarian on January 28, 2014 at 11:50 PM

That’s a good point. I’m not planning on moving there, but for giggles it would be interesting to know what their laws are on that issue.

listens2glenn on January 28, 2014 at 11:30 PM

A quick internetz perusal of Belize gun laws:

In Belize, civilians are not allowed to possess all assault rifles, automatic and semiautomatic firearms, rifles of calibre greater than 7.62 mm or 0.30 inch, sawed-off rifles or shotguns, shotguns of barrel length 21 inches or less, rifled shotguns, handguns of calibre greater than 9mm or .38inch, armour-piercing ammunition, silencers, or extended handgun magazines

So much for Belize.

justltl on January 28, 2014 at 11:50 PM

CAP Action ‏@CAPAction 8m

NN POLL on response to #SOTU: 44% Very Positive 32% Somewhat Positive 22% Negative

https://twitter.com/passantino/status/428386702025977857/photo/1

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:51 PM

I’ll tell you what’s “whacked out” Lanceman. It’s that social cons believe they can regulate virtue. GOOD LUCK with that.

John the Libertarian on January 28, 2014 at 11:50 PM

Good luck having anything approaching liberty in a nation of people that aren’t virtuous!

Murphy9 on January 28, 2014 at 11:53 PM

I’ll tell you what’s “whacked out” Lanceman. It’s that social cons believe they can regulate virtue. GOOD LUCK with that.

John the Libertarian on January 28, 2014 at 11:50 PM

Thank you, John. I appreciate the encouragement. :D

Lanceman on January 28, 2014 at 11:53 PM

So much for Belize.

justltl on January 28, 2014 at 11:50 PM

That sucks. I guess Switzerland is the last place. Better brush up on my Austrian…

Lanceman on January 28, 2014 at 11:54 PM

One might be permitted to take out one’s johnson in order to take a whiz, but I’ll have to read more to confirm that.

justltl on January 28, 2014 at 11:55 PM

And just like that…

… I’m gone. See you gals and guys later!

*Poof!*

Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2014 at 11:56 PM

Lanceman on January 28, 2014 at 11:54 PM

Yes, Switzerland seems to have their act together on that.

justltl on January 28, 2014 at 11:57 PM

Good luck having anything approaching liberty in a nation of people that aren’t virtuous!

Murphy9 on January 28, 2014 at 11:53 PM

Virtue (and grace) comes from within. You cannot regulate it.

John the Libertarian on January 28, 2014 at 11:57 PM

Boehner looked blacker than 0bama…

OmahaConservative on January 29, 2014 at 12:01 AM

canopfor on January 28, 2014 at 11:51 PM

Anything on how many people watched this Strenuous Ordeal of Tendentious Underwhelmingness, aka, SOTU?

smellthecoffee on January 29, 2014 at 12:01 AM

Do not peter out now! We are so close to a thousand!!!

John the Libertarian on January 29, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Why did Erika start a new thread, what was the point?

OmahaConservative on January 29, 2014 at 12:10 AM

The homosexual commie in chief really made a fool out of himself, and his wide-load beard looked really pissed…

OmahaConservative on January 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

1. He addressed the gay topic ahead of honoring the blind veteran.

2. Michelle looked like a parachute, ready to take off any time.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2014 at 12:18 AM

Why did Erika start a new thread, what was the point?

OmahaConservative on January 29, 2014 at 12:10 AM

Allah’s cats broke curfew again. He’s too busy grounding them to work on the QOTD.
My contribution to the 1000 comment club.

HornetSting on January 29, 2014 at 12:20 AM

What gay jobs have you created, POTUS??!

John the Libertarian on January 29, 2014 at 12:20 AM

Maybe Obama will get impeached or just stay in Hawaii next time and get high or something.

Hope springs eternal–nope, Obama stole that word, too.

Ruined it for me.

“Going forward” blah, blah, blah.

Pelosi is right about things sucking.

Sherman1864 on January 29, 2014 at 12:21 AM

What gay jobs have you created, POTUS??!

John the Libertarian on January 29, 2014 at 12:20 AM

Does Reggie Love get paid?

HornetSting on January 29, 2014 at 12:22 AM

Stil a few posts hsy of the 1000 mark, so I wanted to do my part…

malclave on January 29, 2014 at 12:22 AM

Does Reggie Love get paid?

HornetSting on January 29, 2014 at 12:22 AM

I’m getting really miffed at you, Hornet, because you REFUSE to close the loopholes in the tax code. It’s been three decades, now. Will you please close them?!

John the Libertarian on January 29, 2014 at 12:24 AM

Obama’s speech sings like Roseann Barr’s version of the National Anthem.

neyney on January 28, 2014 at 11:48 PM

Heh.

Beat you by three hours …

Makes one long for Roseanne Barr singing the National Anthem …

ShainS on January 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM

ShainS on January 29, 2014 at 12:24 AM

OH SH*T:

http://grimm.house.gov/

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Grimm: I verbally took the reporter to task and told him off, because I expect a certain level of professionalism and respect..
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Grimm: The reporter..insisted on taking a disrespectful and cheap shot at the end of the interview..
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Grimm: The reporter knew that I was in a hurry and was only there to comment on the State of the Union..
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Grimm: I was extremely annoyed because I was doing NY1 a favor by rushing to do their interview.. The reporter knew that I was in a hurry
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Grimm after incident with NY1 rptr: I doubt that I am the first Member of Congress to tell off a reporter, and I am sure I won’t be the last
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canopfor on January 29, 2014 at 12:24 AM

989

viking01 on January 29, 2014 at 12:25 AM

Does Reggie Love get paid?

HornetSting on January 29, 2014 at 12:22 AM

I’m getting really miffed at you, Hornet, because you REFUSE to close the loopholes in the tax code. It’s been three decades, now. Will you please close them?!

John the Libertarian on January 29, 2014 at 12:24 AM

For you, I will eat the tax code, any loopholes, and any and all agents I run into on my errand.

HornetSting on January 29, 2014 at 12:27 AM

Finally,..a GOP’r,…Smack talking a LeftyNewsDNCAgent:

US State of the Union address 2014
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http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/29/22488605-ny-congressman-to-reporter-ill-break-you-in-half?lite

canopfor on January 29, 2014 at 12:27 AM

Why did Erika start a new thread, what was the point?

OmahaConservative on January 29, 2014 at 12:10 AM

I suspect to (1) correct this one’s incorrect mention of three more Barky SOTU’s to go (as there are only two more) and (2) begin a post-mortem … but, I agree, this one should have sufficed.

ShainS on January 29, 2014 at 12:28 AM

Actually only about 4 to go to 1000.

Oh, and Obama sucks….

viking01 on January 29, 2014 at 12:28 AM

For you, I will eat the tax code, any loopholes, and any and all agents I run into on my errand.

HornetSting on January 29, 2014 at 12:27 AM

You see? One dedicated woman can cure all of our woes. I knew it. Can you eat Obama, too?

John the Libertarian on January 29, 2014 at 12:29 AM

What gay jobs have you created, POTUS??!

John the Libertarian on January 29, 2014 at 12:20 AM

Pretty sure Reggie got a nice severance (uh, can I say) “package” paid for by we tax payers … so there’s that!

ShainS on January 29, 2014 at 12:30 AM

….I am governor Jerry Brown, my aura smiles and never frowns, soon I will be president…….

HornetSting on January 29, 2014 at 12:30 AM

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