AZ GOP censures McCain for being “too liberal”

posted at 12:31 pm on January 26, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

I suppose this was inevitable, really. While it happened on the local level and not on the floor of the upper chamber, John McCain has been censured by his own party for being too liberal.

The Arizona Republican Party formally censured Sen. John McCain on Saturday, citing a voting record they say is insufficiently conservative.

The resolution to censure McCain was approved by a voice-vote during a meeting of state committee members in Tempe, state party spokesman Tim Sifert said. It needed signatures from at least 20 percent of state committee members to reach the floor for debate.

Sifert said no further action was expected.

Obviously this has no real impact on McCain and is more of a ceremonial statement by the local party heads than anything else. McCain’s office declined to even respond to requests for comment, though former Senator Jon Kyl called the move “wacky.” (Echos of “whacko bird” there, eh?)

Their complaints are the same ones we regularly hear; willing to work on “immigration reform” (read: amnesty) and being a bit too cozy with the idea of Obamacare as settled law, even if it requires modifications. Does this mean anything at all? A bit of scoffing drips from the pen of Joe Gandelman.

THE IMMEDIATE MEANING: McCain has been taken to task, as if that will have any impact whatsoever on what he says or does.

THE LONGTERM IMPACT: It continues to feed the ongoing image of the Republican Party as a party that’s intolerant to those who don’t echo the sound bites of talk radio hosts, Fox News and conservative media writers. It’s a big: NONCONSERVATIVES ARE NOT WELCOME sign hung on the GOP’s tent (which increasingly resembles a pup tent).

I’m not going to say I agree with all of that. Frankly, I don’t know if McCain will even notice, and it’s hard to imagine him suddenly standing up, rubbing his eyes and saying, “Gee… I guess I’d better straighten up and fly Right from now on.” McCain gives us plenty of reasons to complain, including the ones I listed above. But he’s also – if nothing else – extremely consistent in his ability to apparently not give a hoot what people are saying. As one liberal wag put it, Arizona has been a hotbed of crazy for a long time and McCain has yelled at that wing of the party to get off his damn lawn at least since he kicked off that torrid bromance with Joe Lieberman in the 90′s. It seems inevitable that they would one day bite back.

The reason this winds up being a bit more of a non-story is that McCain really has virtually nothing to worry about, absent falling down outside his house and breaking a hip. He’s not up for election until 2016, and he’s hinted several times that he may be retiring anyway. (Not terribly surprising since he’ll turn 80 that year.) Of course even if he does run again, as he recently implied, is this censure going to affect anything? In his last run in 2010 he cruised to a 58 – 34 victory with more than a million votes in a mid-term contest. Local GOP and independent voters don’t seem to be staying away in droves, so McCain doesn’t seem likely to lose any sleep over this.


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Resign immediately and expatriate to Old Mexico where you belong, Juan McCain.

Jeddite on January 26, 2014 at 12:33 PM

“Wackobirds” — Insane McCain

Schadenfreude on January 26, 2014 at 12:33 PM

McCain — 2016

Hillary/McCain – 2016

Schadenfreude on January 26, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Damned old fool…

OmahaConservative on January 26, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Resign immediately and expatriate to Old Mexico where you belong, Juan McCain.

Jeddite on January 26, 2014 at 12:33 PM

And take Meghan with you!

22044 on January 26, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Never again will I vote for a RINO for president. SP was the only reason he got my vote…

OmahaConservative on January 26, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Maverick!

My collie says:

Time to cull the herd.

The meat packing plants in Chicago won’t take him, so I guess it’s is a total loss.

My collie says:

I’ll sing a few bars of “Bury me not on the lone prairie” for him, K?

CyberCipher on January 26, 2014 at 12:38 PM

must GROUPTHINK!!!

what a joke…

nonpartisan on January 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM

must GROUPTHINK!!!

what a joke…

nonpartisan on January 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Paid by the quantity of comments, not quality, eh?

Jeddite on January 26, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Doing him a favor. It can be used to finally justify his switching parties.

Mimzey on January 26, 2014 at 12:43 PM

. But he’s also – if nothing else – extremely consistent in his ability to apparently not give a hoot what people are saying. As one liberal wag put it, Arizona has been a hotbed of crazy for a long time and McCain has yelled at that wing of the party to get off his damn lawn at least since he kicked off that torrid bromance with Joe Lieberman in the 90′s.

So in other words, John McCain is going to ignore his constituent base and work with those who are his opponents (see, 2008 presidential campaign.) And yet you wonder why we disfavor him.

rbj on January 26, 2014 at 12:44 PM

nonpartisan on January 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Still waiting for a sign that your IQ is higher than a double 7.

CWchangedhisNicagain on January 26, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Wrong target.
Because a person might have a change of heart, or other legitimate “conversions”.
The problem is, these liberal positions are his previous positions, and he promised the Arizona electorate he had had a conversion away from those. Going back means either he lied to trick the voters into reelecting him (like Harry Reid did) or his beliefs are so vapid that they change depending on who said what to him last.
Since they only change to the right when he wants support from Arizonans, he only ever attacks against his right, and he always goes to the left to demonstrate “his principles”, I know which I believe.

That means the censure should have been betraying his campaign promises.

jhnone on January 26, 2014 at 12:47 PM

must GROUPTHINK!!!

Why, yes. Yes it is going to be a slow day, Allah. Or Ace.

Lanceman on January 26, 2014 at 12:48 PM

what a joke…

noforeskin on January 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM

…yes…you are!

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2014 at 12:49 PM

jhnone on January 26, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Excellent points …

ShainS on January 26, 2014 at 12:52 PM

must GROUPTHINK!!!

what a joke…

nonpartisan on January 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Every time a minority steps off the liberal plantation and expresses a conservative opinion, they are trounced mercilessly as a race traitor but nobody ever accuses the left of engaging in groupthink.

Kafir on January 26, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Lanceman on January 26, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Slow day? I rented out an entire bar so me and 300 of my closest friends could watch the super bowl.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2014 at 12:54 PM

So in other words, John McCain is going to ignore his constituent base and work with those who are his opponents (see, 2008 presidential campaign.) And yet you wonder why we disfavor him.

rbj on January 26, 2014 at 12:44 PM

No, I don’t actually wonder. :-)
He ticks a lot of people off.

Jazz Shaw on January 26, 2014 at 12:56 PM

must GROUPTHINK!!!

what a joke…

nonpartisan on January 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Yeppers…sheepleton in your party are nothing but group-thinkers. You’re all gnats or plankton. That it escapes you the irony makes you really stupid.

Schadenfreude on January 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Like I said before….. lots of nays due to legality of the resolution but overall no one in the AZGOP likes him too much…..it was a resounding aye yesterday

Yup he’ll ignore it…..like he does with everything else Az

cmsinaz on January 26, 2014 at 1:01 PM

That the irony escapes you, makes you a “we’re all equal…inequality the main topic on the SOTU” sheep, partisanhack.

Schadenfreude on January 26, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Why quote the lefty rags when the Right is the entity targeting him?

BKeyser on January 26, 2014 at 1:03 PM

must GROUPTHINK!!!

what a joke…

nonpartisan on January 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Sheep are indignant.

Schadenfreude on January 26, 2014 at 1:03 PM

It’s a big: NONCONSERVATIVES ARE NOT WELCOME sign hung on the GOP’s tent (which increasingly resembles a pup tent).

I so much want to build a spaceship, fill it with as many people as I can that think just like me, and vamoosh from here at warp speed.

I’d never look back.

What kind of thinking can you assign to the quote above?

Insane? Out of touch? Un-informed?

Can he explain why a party which (supposedly) has conservatism as its ideology would hang out a sign that something different?

Can anyone imagine a sign hanging outside DWS’s office that says “Conservatives Welcome”?

BobMbx on January 26, 2014 at 1:03 PM

I am a state committeeman of the Arizona GOP (state party) and was at the meeting yesterday.

It isn’t 2010 anymore, and next time if he runs McCain will not be running against an already-wounded opponent who came into the race with high negatives.

McCain’s antics have to a great degree now been noticed by the average R voter as well as many independents who lean R.

I think he can be beaten in a primary by the right candidate, and we have several.

JonasParkerAz on January 26, 2014 at 1:05 PM

His re-election was paid for by the billionaire, those nasty 1%rs, in AZ, and the left love him, irony of all.

Schadenfreude on January 26, 2014 at 1:05 PM

“NONCONSERVATIVES ARE NOT WELCOME sign hung on the GOP’s tent”

Of course, NOTHING could be farther from the truth. The Republican Party, led by liberal “progressives” like McCain, Rubio, Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, et al, has become virtually identical to the democrat party. The ONLY reason that the Republican Party still exists as a separate entity, and has not fully merged with the democrats party is that there are a handful of conservative hold-outs; Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul and a few others are all that is left of the traditional, the REAL Republican Party – and it is they who have are no longer welcome, according to the establishment.

Pork-Chop on January 26, 2014 at 1:05 PM

billionaires, in the plural. Otherwise he’d have been toast.

Schadenfreude on January 26, 2014 at 1:06 PM

McCain should win the Richard Lugar award for Senators who have worn out their welcome with their constituents and who should retire. McCain is not a worthy holder of what should be a solidly Republican seat. McCain should retire; the sooner the better.

Rogervzv on January 26, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Shrinkage

Schadenfreude on January 26, 2014 at 1:08 PM

former Senator Jon Kyl called the move “wacky.”

Kyl is a weasel. Last thing I remember about him was his heading up the ban on online poker under a false morality premise and getting sweet love from 60 Minutes in return. Kyl spearheaded the move so that Republicans would take the political damage from that.

Of course, the real reason for the ban was because the government couldn’t keep tabs on people through those sites. Especially the person-to-person money transfers. They had to use a fake morality premise to shut them down.

Buddahpundit on January 26, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Aaaaand right on cue Allah/nonparisian/Ace/Jazz or whoever the non-troll is got you all wound up.

You all show more restraint not answering the hagfish.

Now where did I put my breadballs…

Lanceman on January 26, 2014 at 1:09 PM

AZ GOP censures McCain for being “too liberal”

Yes, because I’m so sure that the establishment GOP in Arizona have a firm hold on real conservative values.

LMAO

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 26, 2014 at 1:10 PM

must GROUPTHINK!!!

what a joke…

nonpartisan on January 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Joe Lieberman called…

Left Coast Right Mind on January 26, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Dr, It wasn’t the ‘establishment’ GOP who did this, be assured.

JonasParkerAz on January 26, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Schumer wants to convince the Republicans to join him, against the TEA party.

He calls the Koch Brothers “plutocrats”, but fails to call the Gateses of the USA anything at all.

“must GROUPTHINK!!!”

Schadenfreude on January 26, 2014 at 1:13 PM

That it escapes you the irony makes you really stupid.

Schadenfreude on January 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Heh. Imagine a liberal Democrat who thinks Republicans are too narrow in their views, but cannot bring itself to mention abortion and the New Kook Left Democrats.

Jaibones on January 26, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Harvard is missing an idiot.

Schadenfreude on January 26, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Slow day? I rented out an entire bar so me and 300 of my closest friends could watch the super bowl.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2014 at 12:54 PM

On my way. Give me cozmo’s spot. I’ll be wearing pants.

22044 on January 26, 2014 at 1:25 PM

They should censure him for being a demcorat.

SouthernGent on January 26, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Sternly worded letter, much like the UN.

thebrokenrattle on January 26, 2014 at 1:50 PM

from mr build the dang fence to all are welcome….

hopefully this will tell him to think twice about re election but then who am i kidding…he’s got the money machine….

cmsinaz on January 26, 2014 at 1:53 PM

No, I don’t actually wonder. :-)
He ticks a lot of people off.

Jazz Shaw on January 26, 2014 at 12:56 PM

To me, I’m not so much ticked off, as why does he still call himself conservative if he’s willing to work so closely with those who oppose a conservative agenda and who will then not return the favor.

Indeed, we need to do away with conservative & liberal labels, and realign with a Natural Rights, limited government camp vs. the State is omnipotent camp.

rbj on January 26, 2014 at 1:57 PM

cmsinaz on January 26, 2014 at 1:53 PM

Agreed..Hopefully he will retire..:)

PS..Good evening to you..Hope you and yours are doing well..:)

Dire Straits on January 26, 2014 at 2:01 PM

HA! Take that, Senator Wackobird! I don’t know what good it does, other than to make a statement, but it needed to be made I guess.

scalleywag on January 26, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Addition by subtraction.

jaywemm on January 26, 2014 at 2:26 PM

McCain isn’t the only RINO senator that is being called out on the rug. Seven county Republican groups have censured his buddy Lindsey Graham and more counties are joining in.

RZuendt on January 26, 2014 at 2:31 PM

must GROUPTHINK!!!

what a joke…

nonpartisan on January 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM

I’ve been on your side. The DNC literally shares one brain. You do not deviate. When a democrat is in trouble, they protect them regardless what they did. See Chris Christie, my hope for 2016, and tell me the GOP protects their own and practices group think.
John McCain’s attitude and poking his side in the eye is why he receives the most ire. There are many moderates in the senate. I started watching Mitt last night and being a moderate, I still wanted to punch McCain in the gut.

BedBug on January 26, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Sadly we Zonies might be stuck with the Maverick if (IF) he decides run for his senate seat (6X). Money is the milk of politics and he married BIG liquor distribuion MONEY. He flies around on his wife’s jet and has no great urgency to raise money from ‘the little people’.
He and George Soros have a LOT in common.
Pathetic really.

Missilengr on January 26, 2014 at 2:56 PM

I blame the sheeple of Arizona. WTF is your problem. You keep electing this fossil.

Kenosha Kid on January 26, 2014 at 2:58 PM

…they should legally change his name to… Senator Senile!

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2014 at 3:20 PM

I sure do like his running mate, though.

John the Libertarian on January 26, 2014 at 3:23 PM

I am a state committeeman of the Arizona GOP (state party) and was at the meeting yesterday.

It isn’t 2010 anymore, and next time if he runs McCain will not be running against an already-wounded opponent who came into the race with high negatives.

McCain’s antics have to a great degree now been noticed by the average R voter as well as many independents who lean R.

I think he can be beaten in a primary by the right candidate, and we have several.

JonasParkerAz on January 26, 2014 at 1:05 PM

I hope you’ve got something lined up for Flake too. He has become too much of a McCain clone and abandoned many of his principles from when he was a Rep. I won’t vote for either of them ever again.

GrannySunni on January 26, 2014 at 3:25 PM

What a productive use of their time.

talkingpoints on January 26, 2014 at 3:35 PM

AZ GOP censures McCain for being “too liberal”

A small part of the GOP doing the correct thing, amazing.

RJL on January 26, 2014 at 3:35 PM

The RepublicanParty not tolerant of non-conservatives? What utter BS!Look,the establishment GOP is making it very clear they only want conservatives to keep their mouths shut,send money, and keep voting for unprincipled RINOs who betray them persistently.McCain deserves censure.Hell he deserves to get his sorry butt kicked into Mexico.Interesting,when the establishment criticizes conservatives the pseudo-conservative punditry is strangely silent.But when a Senator who has betrayed his Party and especially conservatives too many times to count gets taken to task by his own, there is weeping,wailing and gnashing of teeth.Can’t wait until November so I can vote for only one Republican on my ballot-the guy who beats Graham in the primary.As for Nikki Haley-nope,she betrayed us by endorsing Romney during the primary.As for Congressman Tom Rice-nope-he’s proven himself to be an establishment RINO.You go Arizona,it will be the rest of our turns in November.Buh-bye GOP!

redware on January 26, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Dr, It wasn’t the ‘establishment’ GOP who did this, be assured.

JonasParkerAz on January 26, 2014 at 1:11 PM

“Mavericks” then?

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 26, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Why quote the lefty rags when the Right is the entity targeting him?
BKeyser on January 26, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Good question.

bluegill on January 26, 2014 at 3:58 PM

I am a state committeeman of the Arizona GOP (state party) and was at the meeting yesterday.

It isn’t 2010 anymore, and next time if he runs McCain will not be running against an already-wounded opponent who came into the race with high negatives.

McCain’s antics have to a great degree now been noticed by the average R voter as well as many independents who lean R.

I think he can be beaten in a primary by the right candidate, and we have several.

JonasParkerAz on January 26, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Thanks for the post. It’s always good to hear what the locals think.

kim roy on January 26, 2014 at 4:05 PM

I hope you’ve got something lined up for Flake too. He has become too much of a McCain clone and abandoned many of his principles from when he was a Rep. I won’t vote for either of them ever again.

GrannySunni on January 26, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Granny, totally agree but one step at a time. How do you like Schweikert vs McCain ?

Hopefully yesterday was a shot across Flake’s bow. He doesn’t have nearly the resources that McCain does, and as we’ve proven with Sal Deciccio and others, money isn’t everything. Anyway, there are others who can knock him off. How do you like Trent Franks vs Flake ?

If you haven’t heard, Tom Morrissey has filed to run against John McComish (Az Senate Majority Leader who led several establishment ‘Republicans’ to vote with the Dems last June over 80 times in a special session where he suspended the rules and passed a Dem budget including Medicaid Expansion’.

Dr, not mavericks… conservatives did this. You know, the folks that support principled constitutional governance, as opposed to continued fiscal irresponsibility and the further accumulation of government power.

JonasParkerAz on January 26, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Hey Dire

Doing very well friend
.
Hope you are as well :)

cmsinaz on January 26, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Wrong target.
Because a person might have a change of heart, or other legitimate “conversions”.
The problem is, these liberal positions are his previous positions, and he promised the Arizona electorate he had had a conversion away from those. Going back means either he lied to trick the voters into reelecting him (like Harry Reid did) or his beliefs are so vapid that they change depending on who said what to him last.
Since they only change to the right when he wants support from Arizonans, he only ever attacks against his right, and he always goes to the left to demonstrate “his principles”, I know which I believe.

That means the censure should have been betraying his campaign promises.

jhnone on January 26, 2014 at 12:47 PM

That’s actually fair.
Tossing out a McCain post on hotair has become the equivalent of rattling your keys in front of a baby: It produces the desired emotion without any effort at all. I can’t forget what he went through in Vietnam, I won’t forget how respected his father was or beloved his grandfather was; pain in the ass or no, he thinks he’s doing the right thing for the country and if you hit him with a hard enough 2by4 he occasionally can be made to listen. That said, I wish he would just enjoy his retirement at this point.

V7_Sport on January 26, 2014 at 4:49 PM

AZ has the same problem a lot of States do. Cities full of progs and moochers. We are outnumbered 2:1 in Tuscon.

I agree mccain don’t give a rip, but maybe Flake will. He’s already squealing about re-election 5 years from now.

He’s nervous in the service.

wolly4321 on January 26, 2014 at 4:55 PM

utter BS!

the establishment GOP

only want conservatives to keep their mouths shut,send money, and keep voting for unprincipled RINOs

betray them persistently.

Hell he deserves to get his sorry butt kicked into Mexico.

the establishment

pseudo-conservative

betrayed

weeping,wailing and gnashing of teeth

Can’t wait until November so I can vote for only one Republican

Nikki Haley-nope,

betrayed us by endorsing Romney during the primary.

Congressman Tom Rice-nope

establishment RINO

Buh-bye GOP!
-redware on January 26, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Look at the keys! jingle jiggle jingle!
Oops, precious had an accident…

V7_Sport on January 26, 2014 at 4:59 PM

must GROUPTHINK!!!

what a joke…

nonintelligent on January 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Please come over to the Smith and Wesson thread to shoot your mouth off.

Del Dolemonte on January 26, 2014 at 5:47 PM

“While it happened on the local level and not on the floor of the upper chamber,” Huh? This was accomplished by conservatives who became elected precinct committeemen in their own precincts. Who in turn elected state committeemen.

You can read more about how this came about, and why it’s important, and how it could be used as a blueprint by conservatives in every state (and is being used in at least one) here (video of the debate on the censure resolution and the voice vote also included):

http://www.redstate.com/coldwarrior/2014/01/26/arizona-gop-state-committeemen-censure-john-mccain-get-inside-our-party-no/

http://www.redstate.com/karenmartin/2014/01/26/the-conservatives-who-achieved-this-were-those-who-got-involved-inside-our-party-period/

The Republican Party will not be changed by bloggers. It will be changed ONLY by those conservatives who actually get inside the Party by becoming voting members of it: precinct committeemen.

The Republican Party has about 400k PC slots and about 200k are still vacant after five years of rule by the Dem progressives and the limp-wristed loyal RINO opposition. The BEST way to change that is by filling up all of the vacant precinct committeeman slots.

I hope this helps.
Thank you.
ColdWarrior
http://precinctproject.us
http://theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

Cold Warrior on January 26, 2014 at 6:48 PM

McCain was caught kissing up to George Soros in Davos …

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/senator-for-arizona-john-mccain-talks-with-soros-fund-news-photo/464632847

Pork-Chop on January 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM

Gee… I guess I’d better straighten up and fly Right from now on.”

Couldn’t if he wanted to. Not a very good pilot as history shows.

Dropping bombs on his own vessel and crashing and all.

Nope. Little chance of him flying right.

Sherman1864 on January 26, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Great job cold warrior…..we need to hook up next time….I was in the back of the room :)

cmsinaz on January 26, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Every couple of years I post my feelings about McCain.

I figure sooner or later I will get banned from this site, but oh well, here goes again:

If I, as an ‘un-connected’ Marine PFC, had conducted myself during incarceration by the enemy, while at war, like the Admiral’s son(John McCain) did I would still be in Leavenworth.

So who gives a rats butt what he does now. The man was a traitor and he was elected lawfully by his constituents, so quit crying and keep your ammo dry.

jarhead0311 on January 26, 2014 at 8:04 PM

But he’s also – if nothing else – extremely consistent in his ability to apparently not give a hoot what people are saying.

Nope, simply wrong, but thats Shaw for you. The fool of a Senator from Arizona was almost heart broken when the NYT turned on him in 2008. He doesnt care what conservatives want or say and thats the only consistent thing about him.

Valkyriepundit on January 26, 2014 at 8:26 PM

cmsinaz,
Thank you for being there. I hope you are recruiting conservatives to become PCs!
Thanks again,
Cold Warrior

Cold Warrior on January 26, 2014 at 8:32 PM

1. “Non-conservatives are not welcome”?! Ummm…the GOP are supposed to be the party of Conservative values, although you would not know it lately with Boehner & McCain attacking the TEA party & Conservatives, ‘Huckleberry’ telling Conservatives not to call ‘Washington Establishment’ GOP Libtards ‘RINO’s & that it is better to vote for a GOP Libtard-wannabe than to vote for an actually Libtard…

McCain should have been put out to pasture long ago…Boehner, McConnell, McCain…time for ‘em all to go…right along with Obama, Pelosy, & Reid…and no thanks to another Bush or another Clinton.

easyt65 on January 26, 2014 at 11:59 PM

must GROUPTHINK!!!

nonpartisan on January 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Are you posting reminder notes to yourself now? Libs are notorious for enforcing groupthink.

zoyclem on January 27, 2014 at 12:03 PM