Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on January 25, 2014 by Allahpundit

President Obama has told Senate Democrats he expects Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to pass immigration reform this year, defying predictions the issue is dead for 2014…

“He said we’re then all going to have a challenging conversation,” Kaine added. “He said it was more likely than not the House would do something.”…

“I think our Republican colleagues realize that to be blocking immigration reform is not good for them,” Schumer added.

***

Most people close to the planning expect votes on four bills by the end of the summer, including one that would give undocumented workers legal status

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), speaking to local chambers of commerce in San Antonio Thursday, peeled back the curtain on the plans, saying Republicans must help illegal immigrants “come out of the shadows and reintegrate into society.” That would include requiring immigrants learn English, civics, pay taxes and pay a fine — a process that is sure to be decried by opponents as amnesty…

Also, the party is now crafting language that would seek to force President Barack Obama to enforce the totality of any law passed. Republicans say they don’t trust the president after he has unilaterally waved parts of the health care law.

***

“If you are against the fastest-growing voting bloc in the country, you and your party don’t have a future,” Bloomberg said flatly at a forum on immigration with Michigan Republican Gov. Rick Snyder and former Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, who served in President George W. Bush’s administration…

Rep. Mike Coffman, R-Colo., who met with Boehner earlier this month, said the speaker is “very committed to getting it done and getting it done this year. He quoted Boehner as saying, “There’s no good time to do it, so let’s just get it done now.’”

***

Legislation being drafted would reject a “special path” to citizenship for illegal immigrants, which was included in the Senate bill, the people familiar with the process said. But it would grant legal status for all illegal immigrants who meet qualifications, allowing them to work and travel without fear of deportation.

The legislation under development also would allow this group to tap into existing paths, available to any newcomer, to gain permanent legal residence, also known as a green card. Once someone has a green card, they are eligible to apply for citizenship.

At the same time, the legislation would make substantial changes to immigration law to clear impediments from those existing paths. Without those changes, illegal immigrants would face big backlogs and requirements that they return to their home countries before applying for a green card.

***

“The question is, are Democrats willing to kill legalization without a special path to citizenship?” said Alfonso Aguilar, executive director of the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles, which supports immigration reform.

Aguilar pointed to a Pew Hispanic Center poll last month that which found 61 percent of immigrant Latinos believe ending deportations is more important than a path to citizenship.

If Democrats oppose a Republican offer to legalize most undocumented immigrants under the belief that Latino voters will blame the GOP, Aguilar said, “that could backfire.”

***

Bloomberg, Snyder and Gutierrez said Congress should act on immigration reform even if Republicans won’t agree to the full-scale overhaul that Obama wants. Once a new system is in place, they said, tweaks could more easily be made in future years

Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice, said advocates would not be able to judge Republican principles without full details of legislation, but he said they might be open to a legal status for immigrants that was not the so-called “special pathway to citizenship” that conservative abhor.

“One can imagine a House no-special-path architecture that meets our principles,” he said.

***

The immigration reformers that deal directly with the White House remain hopeful the president will take unilateral action if it becomes clear there will be no congressional solution.

“As far as I’m concerned, we have the next five months to get something done, and if nothing gets done, it will be an issue that needs to be addressed by the president,” said Eliseo Medina, the longtime union activist who organized the Fast for Families tents outside the Capitol late last year.

At last week’s Cabinet meeting, Obama kicked his all-by-myself theme into high gear, saying 2014 would be a year of executive actions and orders to advance his agenda wherever he can.

“We are not just going to be waiting for a legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help that they need,” Obama said. “I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone — and I can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions that move the ball forward.”

***

In effect, Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy, and Ryan are hoping that Obama will keep enforcement promises once all the illegal aliens have received an immediate amnesty, in a change from all prior experience.

“Hope and change” duped enough voters to send Obama to the presidency. Apparently, it has now snookered the House GOP leadership into trying to save his floundering presidency.

***

Legalization without citizenship would split the base and offer few political dividends with the center. The driving force behind many Republicans’ skepticism about an immigration deal is not a fear that illegal immigrants will be granted citizenship; it is a worry that legalization will be traded for empty promises of enforcement. Legalization without citizenship, then, may be too clever by half: It sounds like an equitable splitting of the difference, but it misses the real point of concern for many Americans.

The Obama administration’s cavalier use of executive authority gives many on the right good reason to fear that any promises of enforcement will be broken faster than the president’s guarantee that if you like your health plan you can keep it. Further, the Obamacare rollout has been one example of bureaucratic incompetence after another; what are the odds that new immigration-enforcement rules, which will probably fall far below Obamacare on the president’s list of priorities, will be smoothly applied?

In addition to demoralizing many in the base, legalization without citizenship would probably open Republicans up to further attacks from the left. The same activists, lobbyists, and opportunists who denounce any effort at immigration enforcement as “xenophobic” would, the day after any legalization was signed, turn around and attack Republicans as the party of the anti-immigrant Know Nothings for their opposition to granting citizenship, too. Legalization without citizenship would give Democrats a wonderfully polarizing issue for 2014 and 2016. As Frank Sharry, the executive director of America’s Voice and a tireless advocate for “comprehensive immigration reform,” said recently, “reform without citizenship . . . would create a permanent underclass that harkens back to the darkest times in American history.” (Sharry also pledged over the summer to “kick” the posteriors of Republicans if they dared to stop the president’s immigration agenda.) Moreover, while anything can happen in Washington, it is highly likely that legalization without citizenship would eventually lead to citizenship, and most political observers know it. Legalization without citizenship would thus be another set-piece of Beltway Kabuki.

***

There will be an attempt to describe Speaker Boehner’s “piecemeal” collection of immigration bills as an “enforcement first” arrangement that will prevent another, future illegal wave despite the incentive created by what will be two successive amnesties. Since Democrats and Latino groups would never go for an actual “enforcement first” approach–e.g., enacting universal E-verify, an exit-entry system, building a fence and waiting a few years for legal challenges to peter out**–this claim will necessarily be a fraud, the framing of which will be a key challenge for Boehner & Co.. Presumably just saying “Hey we passed the enforcement part of the bill a week before we passed the amnesty part” won’t do, nor will letting President Obama decide when the enforcement mechanisms are sufficiently “in place.” That means a convoluted debate over “triggers,” the traditional playground for legislative legerdemain.*** Legalizers will try to make the prequisites look tough when they aren’t — certainly nothing that can’t be easily dismantled once the undocumented get their documents. Do not count on the press to correct this misimpression. They’re in the “fool the rubes” camp too…

It’s a sellout. That’s a term I don’t use lightly. Certainly there are plenty of idealistic, principled advocates of “comprehensive immigration reform” — including true believers in open borders, advocates of immigrants’ rights, and ethnic champions. Even the employers who are providing the financial muscle behind the amnesty push may sincerely think spoiled American workers just aren’t cutting it anymore, that the economy needs better, cheaper, hungrier immigrants — heaven forbid responsible corporatist roundtablers should have to actually train those spoiled Americans.

But why are the politicians abandoning the economic interests of the country’s basic laborers, and the strong anti-amnesty convictions of their own constituents (in the case of most Republicans), and doing it at such an objectively inauspicious time? It’s hard to deny that cash is doing much of the swaying here. “[A]ll the money is on the side of pushing it,” one pro-amnesty Democratic Congressman boasted–money in the form not only of direct campaign contributions, as promised by Mark Zuckerberg ($50 million) and the Chamber of Commerce, but also future consulting contracts and lobbying positions for those who echo the line that Republicans just have to do this to remain viable. In any case, that latter argument–’We’re not doing it for the money. We’re doing it to save our political hides!’–isn’t exactly an appeal to principle either, is it?

***

House conservatives crafting their own immigration proposal to vie with a document Speaker John Boehner is poised to release as the GOP’s position on the issue are focusing on enforcement of current laws and providing economic assistance to unemployed Americans before providing legal status to illegal immigrants, officials with knowledge of the deliberations said…

“A couple sets of alternative immigration principles are circulating, putting emphasis on getting Americans back to work before bringing in thousands of guest workers and on enforcing current laws before passing additional ones that the Administration won’t enforce,” the aide told Breitbart News in an email. “Many are concerned about executive overreach and selective enforcement of existing laws. There is also concern that immigration proposals are moving away from the intent of the Constitution and are establishing long term problems.”

***

In return for making life easier on the debt ceiling for the House leadership, Speaker Boehner should make his own concession: He should announce that he will not bring any immigration legislation to the floor this session. If there’s one thing that could blow up GOP chances for a good 2014, it would be an explosive debate over immigration in the House. The only sure way to avoid such a debate is not to let anything onto the floor in the first place. Once even an innocuous-sounding measure gets passed, then the pressure to go to conference with the loathed Senate bill will be great. And whatever ultimately were to happen, activists would spend months worrying about and agitating against a betrayal by the leadership, business interests would spend months urging such a betrayal, and Republicans would be consumed by infighting and recriminations on an issue that does them no short-term political good. Bringing immigration to the floor insures a circular GOP firing squad, instead of a nicely lined-up one shooting together and in unison at Obamacare and other horrors of big government liberalism. Since there really is no need to act this year on immigration, don’t. Don’t even try.

***

Via Breitbart.


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Electrongod!

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 8:33 PM

No.

thatsafactjack on January 25, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Paging OmahaConservative….

Steve Eggleston on January 25, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Anyone see Lourdes today?

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 8:34 PM

If the GOP hands Obama his second term ‘signature achievement’, something he’s been unable to garner for himself, particularly amnesty, I’ll never vote for any member who supported amnesty or had a hand in its passage.

Ever.

thatsafactjack on January 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Oh, and kill the autoplay video…PLEASE!

Steve Eggleston on January 25, 2014 at 8:36 PM

that would give undocumented workers legal status

Giving aid and comfort to an invasion of illegals. That’s called “treason” and carries pretty stiff penalties.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 25, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Steve Eggleston on January 25, 2014 at 8:36 PM

What autoplay vid? i am not getting one…

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Oh, and kill the autoplay video…PLEASE!

Steve Eggleston on January 25, 2014 at 8:36 PM

just get noscript and block all that junk. Your pages will load faster, too.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 25, 2014 at 8:39 PM

The GOP should do the right thing: stand up for American citizens, enforce the rule of law, and see that the value of citizenship is not eroded.

If the GOP wants my vote they’ll do the right thing.

thatsafactjack on January 25, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Any politician who votes for mass illegal alien amnesty a.k.a. special pathway to legalization in “comprehensive immigration reform” should be voted out of office.

We have immigration laws for a reason, and we should be enforcing them. Mass illegal alien amnesty only encourages and leads to more illegal immigration.

Passing mass illegal alien amnesty would eventually ensure that we could never again elect a conservative president. It would be the key to Democrat efforts to turn Texas blue like California, for example.

Shame on any so called conservative who supports amnesty and throwing away the country to give big business more cheap labor and Democrats more voters.

bluegill on January 25, 2014 at 8:39 PM

My neighborhood is chock full of illegals. My Spanish improves daily…

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Steve Eggleston on January 25, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Steve, you should know by now, its up to you to kill it. I never have any autoplays load. I’m not sure but I’m pretty sure this will do it for you on most browsers. If you run FF as your browser get the adblock plug in (add on).

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 8:41 PM

It’s funny how most of the illegals are Mexican….

And they love them some Obama tyranny…

Just like the Dictator they fled from…

Electrongod on January 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM

The GOP is destined to go the way of the Whigs at this rate. Question is, what next?

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 8:43 PM

*************** Mc Cain Censure From Arizona GOP Heads-Up ************

John McCain
3h
Arizona Republican Party formally censures Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., citing a voting record that they say is insufficiently conservative – @AP
read more on kvoa.com
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4 hours 18 minutes ago by Associated Press
Arizona GOP censures McCain for ‘liberal’ record
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TEMPE, Ariz. – The Arizona Republican Party has formally censured Sen. John McCain, citing a voting record that they say is insufficiently conservative.(More…)
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http://www.kvoa.com/news/arizona-gop-censures-mccain-for-liberal-record/

canopfor on January 25, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Question is, what next?

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 8:43 PM

The Constitutional Union of American States … if we’re lucky.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 25, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Electrongod on January 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM

You Bished.

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 8:45 PM

My aunt turned 79 in December and doesn’t expect to see another Republican president in her lifetime…

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 8:45 PM

The only thing I see in this post is that they want illegals to have more rights in this country than the actual citizens.

Barred on January 25, 2014 at 8:47 PM

If the GOP hands Obama his second term ‘signature achievement’, something he’s been unable to garner for himself, particularly amnesty, I’ll never vote for any member who supported amnesty or had a hand in its passage.

Ever.

thatsafactjack on January 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM

that I will also give money to their opponent .. regardless of party.

conservative tarheel on January 25, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Since there really is no need to act this year on immigration, don’t. Don’t even try.

…that means…the GOP will do something dumb!

KOOLAID2 on January 25, 2014 at 8:48 PM

But why are the politicians abandoning the economic interests of the country’s basic laborers, and the strong anti-amnesty convictions of their own constituents (in the case of most Republicans), and doing it at such an objectively inauspicious time?

Progressives see a huge voting bloc that will keep the Democratic contingent in power forever, and the RINO contingent’s checks arriving on time forever from the Democratic contingent.

Cuomo and his contingent see a future in which they can tell any American who disagrees with them on anything to Get The F**k Out- of the United States.

Mexico’s government sees a potential big and continuing payday in massive influxes of money sent south by the new “guest worker class”.

Some of the more radical and delusional types (La Raza, Aztlan, various American academics, and probably some of The One’s own staff) see the Absolut map coming true.

What all of the above have in common is an utter lack of concern for either the people of the United States- or the people of Mexico and Latin America.

All they care about is power. Which they will use to hurt others.

Count on it.

clear ether

eon

eon on January 25, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Where is Lourdes?
Good night…
/

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Question is, what next?

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Low Rider…

Electrongod on January 25, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Results for #immigration

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23immigration&src=hash

canopfor on January 25, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 8:41 PM

I have DoNotTrackMe addon and I’m still getting the videos.

What am I doing wrong?

Barred on January 25, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Evening.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 25, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Question is, what next?

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Bmore:…..This:)
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The truth is … ‏@LibertySeeds 1h

In DC we find a foreign flag being used as part of demands for legalization of illegal aliens: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWEia8bCUAAgndy.jpg … #immigration #sotu
==================

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWEia8bCUAAgndy.jpg

canopfor on January 25, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Evening.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 25, 2014 at 8:53 PM

ALT: Good Evening Lady ALT:0

canopfor on January 25, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Lemme through! I got here late!

Lanceman on January 25, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers – “Refugee”
(Official Music Video – HD 1080p)
**********************************

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7_1R_b4x7Y

canopfor on January 25, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Conservatives should fight this amnesty push with everything they’ve got. Amnesty passing is not inevitable. Don’t let any defeatist eeyores tell you otherwise.

Americans are still strongly against illegal alien amnesty when they have all the facts.

bluegill on January 25, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Barred on January 25, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Not sure. Which browser?

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Where is Lourdes?
Good night…
/

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Weren’t you the one earlier in another thread claiming that Lourdes was instigating things last night?

And here you are trying to stir things up and bringing up drama unnecessarily.

bluegill on January 25, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Please, OC, ignore that damned hagfish.

Lanceman on January 25, 2014 at 8:59 PM

I have DoNotTrackMe addon and I’m still getting the videos.

What am I doing wrong?

Barred on January 25, 2014 at 8:52 PM

You need something like Noscript. The DoNotTrack stuff has nothing to do with autoplay vids or ads. It’s only concerned with tracking cookies and perhaps tracking images and the like. It’s the javascript commands that need to be killed.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 25, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM

IE

Barred on January 25, 2014 at 8:59 PM

“If you are against the fastest-growing voting bloc in the country, you and your party don’t have a future,”

The unemployed?

reaganaut on January 25, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Barred on January 25, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Maybe that’s the difference. You could try ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 25, 2014 at 8:59 PM recommendation. Or move to FF and use the adblock. I run FF and have never had autoplays since loading Abine. Ask ThePrimordialOrderedPair if noscript is compatible with IE.

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 9:04 PM

My aunt turned 79 in December and doesn’t expect to see another Republican president in her lifetime…

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 8:45 PM

I’m almost 40 years younger than your aunt, and I don’t expect to see another Republican President in my lifetime. A non-Rat President, sure. A Republican one, not so much.

Steve Eggleston on January 25, 2014 at 9:04 PM

PrimordialOrderedPair

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Say that one 3 times fast.

Lanceman on January 25, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Peeks in…oh crap.

Got an hour to finish these instructions in time for a new auction.

Carry on y’all, and get some tunage queued up.

cozmo on January 25, 2014 at 9:05 PM

“If you are against the fastest-growing voting bloc in the country, you and your party don’t have a future,”

The unemployed?

reaganaut on January 25, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Food Stamp Nation, which has doubled since 2004 and now equals nearly 48 million. </plug_self_shameless>

Steve Eggleston on January 25, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Where is Lourdes?
Good night…
/

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Weren’t you the one earlier in another thread claiming that Lourdes was instigating things last night?

And here you are trying to stir things up and bringing up drama unnecessarily.

bluegill on January 25, 2014 at 8:58 PM

A respectful request to the both of you on this Saturday evening. Leave go of it.

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 9:05 PM

I just don’t like how people gang up on Lourdes. It’s like a pack mentality to attack someone who runs afoul of the circle. Lourdes isn’t any kind of troll, and I think some people just don’t like that she stands up for and defends herself. I didn’t read all of what transpired last night, but I’ve seen Lourdes’ comments on here for a long time, and it’s clear she isn’t a disruptive person. She gives thoughtful comments and expresses herself forcefully and effectively.

bluegill on January 25, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Steve Eggleston on January 25, 2014 at 9:04 PM

I want to see a conservative president and not a RINO…

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Now I’m going to go get some stuff done.

bluegill on January 25, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Ask ThePrimordialOrderedPair if noscript is compatible with IE.

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 9:04 PM

I have no idea. I haven’t touched anything Windows in years. But there must be some sort of selective javascript blocker for IE. Adblock is decent but that won’t block a lot of the non-ad javascript junk that runs.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 25, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Low Rider…

Electrongod on January 25, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Electrongod:Awfully Colourful:0

canopfor on January 25, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Thanks. Not that computer savvy, maybe I need to try FF.

Barred on January 25, 2014 at 9:09 PM

I didn’t read all of what transpired last night..
bluegill on January 25, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Then shut the eff up you stupid ignorant hagfish until you educate yourself. She lied more in one night than you ever have here.

cozmo on January 25, 2014 at 9:09 PM

cozmo on January 25, 2014 at 9:09 PM

You are asking for that stupid ignorant hagfish to hang around. If everyone would just ignore it, it would go away.

Lanceman on January 25, 2014 at 9:10 PM

I want to see a conservative president and not a RINO…

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Amen. As long as El PRL puts up RINOs, they’ll keep losing.

Of course, they’ll put up RINOs until they Whig Federalist themselves and rejoin the Democrat Party.

Steve Eggleston on January 25, 2014 at 9:10 PM

MeanWhile,..back at DemTard InEquality Immigration Camp:

And,..I do wonder/ponder, will the SOTUA,..be dominated
with Talky Points/Lefty Bullett Points,….

…with a NeverEnding Pelosium up and down Kabuki CheerLead
ing clapping manouvres.

Obama’s 7 State of the Union talking points. No. 4: Immigration
***************************************************************

By David Nakamura
January 25 at 10:30 am
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President Obama will deliver his sixth State of the Union address on Tuesday. The Fix is previewing Obama’s major themes and challenges in the speech, focusing on one issue a day leading up to the address. Today’s talking point is immigration. Click here for talking point #3 on early childhood education. Click here for talking point #2 on saving the planet. And click here for talking point #1 on defending Obamacare.

A year after calling on Congress to send him a comprehensive immigration reform bill, President Obama heads into his 2014 speech halfway to his goal.

Last June, after months of deliberations, the Senate approved a bipartisan plan that featured a 13-year path to citizenship for the nation’s 11 million to 12 million undocumented immigrants.(More…)
====================================================================

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/01/25/obamas-7-state-of-the-union-talking-points-no-4-immigration/

canopfor on January 25, 2014 at 9:12 PM

I’ve been wait’n 5 years for my Unicorn that poops skittles that Barry promised. Now ya gonna let all them illegals cut the line in front of me.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on January 25, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Barred on January 25, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Its really all I have ever used. Don’t care for Safari even though I’m on a mac. One of our posters had recommended Iron over Chrome sometime back. They saw an advantage to Chromium based browsers. I didn’t so I went back to, rather continued on with FF. I have never used a pc, (IE). So I would have to do read me’s. Not a big fan of read me’s. Lolz! I would try FF if you have a decent, (recent) machine. You are out nothing for giving it a spin. Wish I could be more helpful. You’re near my neck of the woods. If you ever what to grab a coffee, let me know. I don’t bite hard. ; )

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 9:14 PM

cozmo on January 25, 2014 at 9:09 PM

The ones of us that were there know what went down. No worries on the gilled one. Not worth it. *clink!* ?

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), speaking to local chambers of commerce in San Antonio Thursday, peeled back the curtain on the plans, saying Republicans must help illegal immigrants “come out of the shadows and reintegrate into society.” That would include requiring immigrants learn English, civics, pay taxes and pay a fine — a process that is sure to be decried by opponents as amnesty…

You cannot tell the difference between the two parties anymore. Same rhetoric.

BedBug on January 25, 2014 at 9:16 PM

You cannot tell the difference between the two parties anymore. Same rhetoric.

BedBug on January 25, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Lookin’ more and more like that’s the case.

Lanceman on January 25, 2014 at 9:18 PM

BedBug on January 25, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Evening BedBug, does it make things any easier for you to understand our frustration as Conservatives? We weep as the Country goes down the tube.

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Firefox is the best browser I have ever used, and the addons are incredible…

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:19 PM

*peeking in*

Evening All.

Alt…how did your first day in Stationery

CoffeeLover on January 25, 2014 at 9:19 PM

BedBug is spot on…

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:20 PM

Hey CoffeeLover…

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:20 PM

CBO
The Economic Impact of S. 744, the
Border Security, Ec
onomic Opportunity,
and Immigration Modernization Act
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June 2013

Summary
The Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act
(S. 744) would revise laws governing immigr
ation and the enforcem
ent of those laws,
allowing for a significant increase in th
e number of noncitizens who could lawfully
enter the United States permanently or temporarily.
1
The bill also would create a
process for many currently unauthorized residents to gain legal status, subject to their
meeting conditions specified in the bill.
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and
the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) have prepared an estimate of the
cost of that legislation to the federal government, including projections of the bill’s
effects on both federal spending and federal revenues.
======================================================

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/44346-Immigration.pdf

canopfor on January 25, 2014 at 9:21 PM

bluegill on January 25, 2014

…choke on a bread ball…and relax!

KOOLAID2 on January 25, 2014 at 9:21 PM

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:20 PM

(waving)

CoffeeLover on January 25, 2014 at 9:23 PM

…choke on a bread ball

KOOLAID2 on January 25, 2014 at 9:21 PM

If only…

Lanceman on January 25, 2014 at 9:24 PM

BedBug on January 25, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Evening BedBug, does it make things any easier for you to understand our frustration as Conservatives? We weep as the Country goes down the tube.

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Good evening, Bmore. I see it. It is destroying the party.
On the other side, they may make noise against the leadership and the president, but in the end, the leadership keeps them in line. They just pretend to buck the system.

BedBug on January 25, 2014 at 9:26 PM

MeanWhile,..in case one missed this SCANDAL:

FBI investigates donors linked to Sen. Menendez
New Jersey, US
**************

1d
Sen. Robert Menendez, D-NJ, denies reports of expanded investigation into corruption, involving 2 Ecuadorian bankers accused of fraud – @thedailybeast
read more on thedailybeast.com
==============================

Ecuador
2d
US Justice Department reportedly investigates Sen. Robert Menendez, D-NJ, for dealings with fugitive bankers from Ecuador and US officials, officials tell @NBCNewYork
read more on nbcnewyork.com
============================

By Jonathan Dienst
| Saturday, Jan 25, 2014 | Updated 5:00 PM EST
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http://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/bob-menendez-federal-probe-nj-senator-i-team-241721381.html

canopfor on January 25, 2014 at 9:26 PM

Firefox is the best browser I have ever used, and the addons are incredible…

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:19 PM

OmahaConservative:….Its the Light of the Internet,..(kidding):)

canopfor on January 25, 2014 at 9:32 PM

BedBug on January 25, 2014 at 9:26 PM

Not just destroying Party, (secondary), destroying the very Nature of this great land. The Founding Fathers had it correct. They saw things straight and very much ahead of the times in which they lived. The current political class is lobbied to do wrong against that very document and concept. In turn these wrongs are done against the people themselves. So pay close attention and see it. Some have no interest. It is certainly the double edged sword of self Governance. In no way forgivable.

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 9:36 PM

So = some. Sorry BedBug for the error, the better half is distracting me. Lolz! ; )

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 9:37 PM

Not that it matters much. But if a law is passed this year that makes illegals legal without a completed fence being built from coast to coast ALREADY, I will not vote for ANY Republican in 2014 or 2016 and I will urge my friends and relatives to do the same. I will not take my Mom to vote and I will fight hard to create a 3rd party.

I will not care whether any Republican voted for an immigration law or not. Or whether any Republican supported the immigration law or not. Or whether Boehner quits or not. I will blame every Republican on the planet if a legalisation bill is passed.

KMav on January 25, 2014 at 9:38 PM

Love In Vain Blues – Green

thatsafactjack on January 25, 2014 at 9:39 PM

BedBug on January 25, 2014 at 9:16 PM

I read your defense of me last night.
Thanks. I appreciate it!

annoyinglittletwerp on January 25, 2014 at 9:40 PM

I will blame every Republican on the planet if a legalisation bill is passed.

KMav on January 25, 2014 at 9:38 PM

Dittoes. Are you British?

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:41 PM

The immigration reformers that deal directly with the White House remain hopeful the president will take unilateral action if it becomes clear there will be no congressional solution.

He keeps threatening this, and this is the one issue that might have people, including independents, marching on Washington for his impeachment. Let him take illegal executive action. If they GOP had any balls they’d bait him in private to do this very thing. However, we know they don’t have brains or balls. They’re sheep.

DFCtomm on January 25, 2014 at 9:41 PM

Hey Jackie, got any jazz?

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:42 PM

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Good evening, Omaha. :) Always.

Let me go get some. :)

thatsafactjack on January 25, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Dittoes. Are you British?

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:41 PM

If I was British I couldn’t vote.:)

KMav on January 25, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Let me go get some. :)

thatsafactjack on January 25, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Thank you darlin’

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:44 PM

BMore gets free wood and I don’t.

I hate him.

SparkPlug on January 25, 2014 at 9:44 PM

BedBug on January 25, 2014 at 9:16 PM

I read your defense of me last night.
Thanks. I appreciate it!

annoyinglittletwerp on January 25, 2014 at 9:40 PM

…he was making them…itch!

KOOLAID2 on January 25, 2014 at 9:45 PM

I forgot to mention that I’m an English gent from London.

SparkPlug on January 25, 2014 at 9:46 PM

You pikers need to apologize to Lourdes. He/She was right and you were wrong.

SparkPlug on January 25, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Harlem Nocturne – Georgie Auld

Just found out that Stanley Turrentine’s Soft Pedal Blues has been blocked on You Tube. :(

thatsafactjack on January 25, 2014 at 9:47 PM

SparkPlug on January 25, 2014 at 9:47 PM

No. No she wasn’t.

thatsafactjack on January 25, 2014 at 9:48 PM

SparkPlug on January 25, 2014 at 9:47 PM

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:48 PM

You pikers need to apologize to Lourdes. He/She was right and you were wrong.

SparkPlug on January 25, 2014 at 9:47 PM

‘Rats on the westside, bedbugs uptown, what a mess! This town’s in tatters!

Lanceman on January 25, 2014 at 9:49 PM

SparkPlug on January 25, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Where’s yours? I already did.

cozmo on January 25, 2014 at 9:49 PM

After further review the instant replay shows that Sparkys call on the field was wrong. Lourdes is at fault and you pikers are correct.

FIRST AND Goal at the 7 yard line.

SparkPlug on January 25, 2014 at 9:49 PM

thatsafactjack on January 25, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Very nice, thanks!

OmahaConservative on January 25, 2014 at 9:50 PM

Lanceman on January 25, 2014 at 9:49 PM

What a tease. That deserved a link.

cozmo on January 25, 2014 at 9:50 PM

So = some. Sorry BedBug for the error, the better half is distracting me. Lolz! ; )

Bmore on January 25, 2014 at 9:37 PM

Understood, no apology needed.

BedBug on January 25, 2014 at 9:16 PM

I read your defense of me last night.
Thanks. I appreciate it!

annoyinglittletwerp on January 25, 2014 at 9:40 PM

You’re welcome.

BedBug on January 25, 2014 at 9:51 PM

Soft Pedal Blues – Turrentine

More than one way to get there. ;)

thatsafactjack on January 25, 2014 at 9:52 PM

Lanceman on January 25, 2014 at 9:49 PM

You’re welcome.

cozmo on January 25, 2014 at 9:52 PM

What a tease. That deserved a link.

cozmo on January 25, 2014 at 9:50 PM

I don’t believe there’s a video for that one. But it was in hinor of steveegg speaking of ‘rats and BedBug.

Lanceman on January 25, 2014 at 9:52 PM

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