Media, White House erupt at Huckabee for saying something about Democrats and women’s libidos

posted at 4:06 pm on January 23, 2014 by Allahpundit

Does it really matter what he said? The liberal thought process on this works this way, I think: “Known social conservative + something about women + something about sex and birth control = outrage.” Right? It’s basically Pavlovian. Which is why even many Republicans who sympathize with social conservatism rub their temples at the thought of nominating a loud-and-proud social con as nominee. You don’t want biased, soft-headed media lefties setting the parameters for who you can nominate, but on the other hand, if you know your guy’s going to spend the campaign tapdancing around soundbite landmines — sometimes justifiably, sometimes not — why bother?

This is, as anyone who reads at a third-grade level will tell you, a shot at Democrats for practicing an especially narrow form of identity politics, not at women.

If there’s any conservative who’s stood boldly against big government and Uncle Sugar in his career, it’s Huck. Ah well. Pavlov’s bell having sounded, the salivation begins:

White House press secretary Jay Carney dismissed comments by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at a Republican meeting Thursday as “offensive.”

“Whoever said it, it sounds offensive to me, and to women,” Carney told reporters after saying he hadn’t seen reports of Huckabee’s remarks.

I like the way he put that — “it sounds offensive,” as though he’s not sure but heard just enough offense-triggering buzzwords when it was read to him that there could, logically, be only one conclusion. Exactly my point up top. Whether it is offensive isn’t important, especially in the initial rush to denounce and capitalize politically. It sounds offensive. Close enough.

Once the media settles down, they’ll zero in on the part of what Huckabee said that does deserve scrutiny, the bit at the end about birth control as the province of people who can’t control their urges. That’s his way as a devout Christian of giving thumbs down to fornication, I take it; if you’re not practicing premarital abstinence, it must be because you’re incapable on some level and need contraception to protect you from the consequences. Not so. Plenty of people could pass on recreational sex but choose not to because they don’t see the moral harm in it that Huck does. See Ace for more on that. I thought the party had moved on from squabbling about contraception, especially after the upset when Stephanopoulos blindsided Romney with a question about it during the primary debates in 2012, but it’s hard to move on when you’ve got a would-be presidential candidate disapprovingly identifying some sort of irresistible compulsion to the way most people behave sexually. See what I mean about landmines of his own making?

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This is, as anyone who reads at a third-grade level will tell you, a shot at Democrats for practicing an especially narrow form of identity politics, not at women.

But since the Democrat/media complex is made up of ignoramuses and partisan hacks, they’ll completely miss the point. Huckster is trashing the Dems for the way they view women as stupid and prone to voting on single issues like abortion or birth control.

Now that’s not to say that there aren’t dumb voters out there who do in fact pull the lever strictly for politicians who promise free contraception and abortion on demand, but it’s a cynical, destructive form of politics that preys on such people.

What’s frustrating is that there’s a valid discussion to be had here about what really does(and should) matter to women in this country, but it’ll never happen because the idiots in the media would rather make this about some fictional war on women.

Doughboy on January 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM

I believe that Mark Twain had some sage advice that applies here.

myiq2xu on January 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Why do Republicans constantly bring up ‘birth control’ and women in the same sentence. I listened to the video…I liked the equality part …but shut up about birth control.

Women hear ‘birth control’ and automatically assume, the dumb ones do, that Republicans DO want to take away their choice…gives more fodder to the media. Media manufactures most of it, GOP should be smart enough to not give them more

Redford on January 23, 2014 at 4:14 PM

This is, as anyone who reads at a third-grade level

Well that eliminates most of the Dem voter base right there.

tdpwells on January 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM

What makes me pound my head on the table over SoCons is that their messages okay right into the hands of the emo-Left to the detriment of us all. The hysteria that is generated over social issues drowns out much needed messages about the economy, jobs, fiscal prudence, etc.

The MSM are deeply complicit in that as we careen toward the abyss they obsess over some stupid remark made by an Aken that impacts nobody.

As much as I may sympathize with SoCons on some issue the emotional reaction from the emotion fueled, childish Left prevents us from addressing real issues that affect 100% of Americans. They’re outrageously outraged 24/7.

Charlemagne on January 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM

“Whoever said it, it sounds offensive to me, and to women,” Carney told reporters after saying he hadn’t seen reports of Huckabee’s remarks.

Really? He went there? Friggin Idiot.

Johnnyreb on January 23, 2014 at 4:16 PM

RINO gores himself.

Huckabee is very big government. He was bashing the TP right before he rambled about libidos and Uncle Sugars. He was lecturing the “far right” about their tone and divisiveness and the need to have a bigger tent blah blah.

And then he runs into the trap all talkative RINOs make for themselves. He thinks because he bashed the TP he was popular with the media and they are his friends.

No smart politician would do what he did. With all the RINOs self-destructing, it is hard to imagine a primary.

TAARP on January 23, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Arrgghhh I hate my iPad’s autocorrect.

Should be “…their messages play…”

Charlemagne on January 23, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Don’t tell Obama about Pavlov. He’ll be looking for his dogs to eat.

Bitter Clinger on January 23, 2014 at 4:17 PM

RINO gores himself.

No 2016 primary necessary.

TAARP on January 23, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Last word: Yes, TP has a public relations problem (not even a TP supporter), but after Christie and Huckabee, they are looking like geniuses.

TAARP on January 23, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Guy who wasn’t ever going to be President still won’t be President.

Purple Fury on January 23, 2014 at 4:19 PM

This War on Women stuff is so stupid and lame, but if this takes Huckabee out of the picture for 2016, so be it.

Bitter Clinger on January 23, 2014 at 4:19 PM

If there’s any conservative who’s stood boldly against big government and Uncle Sugar in his career, it’s Huck.

Now Allah’s just trolling us.

RickB on January 23, 2014 at 4:20 PM

I know that Huck is not exactly popular with a lot of HA readers, but I am not overly concerned with him pulling an Akin, Miller, witch-lady, idiot in Nevada etc… This guy actually blew the competition off the stage at every debate in 2008. The rest consisted of Mitt stammering, Rudy hiding, RP hating on America and McCain dozing.

Southernblogger on January 23, 2014 at 4:20 PM

“Whoever said it, it sounds offensive to me, and to women,” Carney told reporters after saying he hadn’t seen reports of Huckabee’s remarks.

Well, I guess we’re even because Carney is offensive to me.

Bitter Clinger on January 23, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Redford on January 23, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Drives me insane.

I’m sick of the social issues. I can’t take it much longer. I understand that issues like debt, deficits, entitlement spending, dependency, etc. is too complex for your average voter but must our politics and elections be constantly determined by who supports or opposes this or that social issue?

“Oh, he’s a dyed in the wool socialist on spending and his economic policies suck, but…I agree with his position on gay marriage so gotta pull the lever for him. Kids? Yeah, I have kids. Why do you ask?”

Charlemagne on January 23, 2014 at 4:22 PM

I’m pretty sure the term “Uncle Sugar” is going to be portrayed as a racist slang term for our president too. Probably before they zero in on the point about birth control as the province of people who can’t control their urges. Lots of little nuggets for our media outrage coaches to pick at here. Our country is like an unhealthy relationship between a couple that you just know is going to break up in just a matter of time because they fight over the stupidest things.

Zetterson on January 23, 2014 at 4:22 PM

I know that Huck is not exactly popular with a lot of HA readers, but I am not overly concerned with him pulling an Akin, Miller, witch-lady, idiot in Nevada etc… This guy actually blew the competition off the stage at every debate in 2008. The rest consisted of Mitt stammering, Rudy hiding, RP hating on America and McCain dozing.

Southernblogger on January 23, 2014 at 4:20 PM

So that explains that “Obama Beats Huckabee” headline I saw the day after the ’08 election.

Bitter Clinger on January 23, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Mike Huckabee declared his support for Todd Akin staying in the race against Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill in an email Thursday, Politico’s Alexander Burns reports. “Who ordered this ‘Code Red’ on Akin?” Huckabee wrote, saying Akin had “owned his mistake” and that the Republican Party has betrayed the Missourian. “If Todd Akin loses the Senate seat, I will not blame Todd Akin,” Huckabee writes.

TAARP on January 23, 2014 at 4:23 PM

The Huckster needs to just go away.

cdog0613 on January 23, 2014 at 4:24 PM

“Known social conservative + something about women + something about sex and birth control = outrage.” Right?

Manufactured Outrage Narrative #????. I’ve lost count.

conservative pilgrim on January 23, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Gov. Huckabee is basically attacking the Sandra Flukes of this country, and he’s right. Republicans have nothing against Randy Sandy sleeping with whomever she pleases and using birth control, but WE don’t want to pay for it. Democrats are using this as a Trojan horse for their “war on women” meme, but all we’re saying is that Sandra Fluke needs to buy her own Trojans.

Steve Z on January 23, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Huckabee is right about this.

Buy your own stuff.

Whining and calling everybody “anti-woman” and “sexist” because they won’t buy you things isn’t a good look. But I guess that’s the mindset of most women voters.

tetriskid on January 23, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Republicans have nothing against Randy Sandy sleeping with whomever she pleases and using birth control, but WE don’t want to pay for it. Democrats are using this as a Trojan horse for their “war on women” meme,

I see what you did there…. ;)

Ace ODale on January 23, 2014 at 4:30 PM

More Huckabee from Buzzfeed:

Let’s stop calling each other somehow less Republican than someone else. Be for the person you’re for,” Huckabee said.

He said that he will be traveling to Auschwitz next week for the anniversary of the liberation of the concentration camp, and noted that the horror of the Holocaust began with the devaluation of people.

“It all started when people were devalued, when people were deemed ‘less than someone else,’” Huckabee said. “We look back on that time in history and we think, ‘How can educated people, university trained, how can a nation like Germany with all of its resources, with its vast level of its population with higher education, get to a place where they can do something so heinous?’ You realize that the only way you can end up there is when you start with the idea that people just aren’t as valuable as you are.”

The clear implication by Huckabee was that those within the GOP who make a habit of demeaning others as not conservative enough are flirting with behavior that can have grave ramifications down the road. It was a serious charge.

Huckabee, an ordained Baptist minister, said that because of his Christian faith, “the one thing that I have to constantly remind myself is that none of us are better than another, and no one is less than any of us.”

TAARP on January 23, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Gov. Huckabee is basically attacking the Sandra Flukes of this country, and he’s right. Republicans have nothing against Randy Sandy sleeping with whomever she pleases and using birth control, but WE don’t want to pay for it. Democrats are using this as a Trojan horse for their “war on women” meme, but all we’re saying is that Sandra Fluke needs to buy her own Trojans.

Steve Z on January 23, 2014 at 4:27 PM

The Left and the media (but I repeat myself) know that this is really the entirety of the debate so they have to twist it into “GOP wants to outlaw contraception!!!” in order to make it seem like there’s something sinister going on.

Bitter Clinger on January 23, 2014 at 4:32 PM

I don’t care what he said – or how he said it/

I just hope The Mainstream Media Obsesses On This To The Same Degree That They Have With Christie – and ANY Fantasy he has about “running” in 2016 is CRUSHED!!!!

Let The MEDIA Eliminate These RINOs!

williamg on January 23, 2014 at 4:32 PM

No one will notice Huckleberry, this happened on the day Justin Beeper got arrested.

hip shot on January 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM

What’s the problem with Huck’s comments? Nothing. He’s right for once. But the Dems will manufacture some outrage at his supposed meaning about “uncontrolled libido and birth control.” Hopefully, Huck can navigate the land field by now and not pull an Akin. The Democrats and media (one in the same) will do their gold-star best to trip him up. We shall see.

Be assured though, any implication of abstinence by Huck is genuine and a significant swath–not all–of Conservatives agree with him. The Democrats will pick up on that comment though and sprint down that road to offensiveness. Sandra Fluke has some more usefulness.

conservative pilgrim on January 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Huckabee uniting the party by implying they are….

TAARP on January 23, 2014 at 4:35 PM

This just adds to my conviction that Huckabee is actually being paid by Democrats and has been for years.

Should be fun to see if this knocks MSDNC off of its Christie 24/7 programming.

rockmom on January 23, 2014 at 4:35 PM

No one will notice Huckleberry, this happened on the day Justin Beeper got arrested.

hip shot on January 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM

*face palm* So true. Iran could have the bomb ready and who would know?

conservative pilgrim on January 23, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Looks like the White house and their default media puppets are going to use Chicago thuggary to take down anyone who dares to speak the truth.

Don L on January 23, 2014 at 4:37 PM

No one will notice Huckleberry, this happened on the day Justin Beeper got arrested.
hip shot on January 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM

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bluegill on January 23, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Bitter Clinger on January 23, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Brilliant. In case you haven’t noticed debate wins do not equal the nomination. Your Republican establishment plays a major role there whether they have to change rules, pile-on or whatever.

Southernblogger on January 23, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Why do Republicans constantly bring up ‘birth control’ and women in the same sentence. I listened to the video…I liked the equality part …but shut up about birth control.

Women hear ‘birth control’ and automatically assume, the dumb ones do, that Republicans DO want to take away their choice…gives more fodder to the media. Media manufactures most of it, GOP should be smart enough to not give them more

Redford on January 23, 2014 at 4:14 PM

The first reason the country is screwed up is because too many idiots like you are concerned with pandering to dumb women.

You are delusional if you think shutting up will help Republicans. These women are epically dumb, and if it isn’t birth control it will be something else. Republicans should attack them directly and call them moronic and stupid children who care about nothing other than their lady parts.

Attack. Hit back and hit back harder. Call them baby-killers, call them deadbeat moochers and losers, and make them pay. They are animals who act like animals and only understand pain.

What makes me pound my head on the table over SoCons is that their messages okay right into the hands of the emo-Left to the detriment of us all. The hysteria that is generated over social issues drowns out much needed messages about the economy, jobs, fiscal prudence, etc.

The MSM are deeply complicit in that as we careen toward the abyss they obsess over some stupid remark made by an Aken that impacts nobody.

As much as I may sympathize with SoCons on some issue the emotional reaction from the emotion fueled, childish Left prevents us from addressing real issues that affect 100% of Americans. They’re outrageously outraged 24/7.

Charlemagne on January 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM

The second reason the country is screwed up is because too many idiots like you are terrified of calling the media and the Obama Party malicious liars to their face.

You are delusional if you think shutting up will help Republicans. The media and the Left are a bunch of malicious liars, and if it isn’t birth control, it will be something else. Republicans should attack them directly and call them malicious and sick liars and criminals who have no morals or values and only want to steal from hard-working Americans.

Attack. Hit back and hit back harder. Call them liars, call them bigots, call them terrorists and extremists, and make them pay. They are animals who act like animals and only understand pain.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Manufactured Outrage Narrative #????. I’ve lost count.

conservative pilgrim on January 23, 2014 at 4:24 PM

14,312,538,590,311. Expect that number to surprass the national debt by November 2016.

Steve Eggleston on January 23, 2014 at 4:44 PM

That’s his way as a devout Christian of giving thumbs down to fornication, I take it; if you’re not practicing premarital abstinence, it must be because you’re incapable on some level and need contraception to protect you from the consequences.

Huck gives a great speech.

Then Allahpundit distorts it, while at the same time mocking them Dems for distorting it.

Does it really matter what he said? The liberal atheist thought process on this works this way, I think: “Known social conservative + something about women + something about sex and birth control = outrage.”

Fixed it for ya, AP. :)

itsnotaboutme on January 23, 2014 at 4:45 PM

A “War for Women” and then a phrase implying they just can’t control them her-mones.
What a Goober.

Marcus on January 23, 2014 at 4:45 PM

“Whoever said it, it sounds offensive to me, and to women,”

Yeah…why can’t people just attack a 2 yr old baby for his very birth , like Hussein’s fluffers used to do ?

burrata on January 23, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Brilliant. In case you haven’t noticed debate wins do not equal the nomination. Your Republican establishment plays a major role there whether they have to change rules, pile-on or whatever.

Southernblogger on January 23, 2014 at 4:42 PM

I don’t recall him getting “piled on” back in ’08. What I do remember is that he failed to stand out in an incredibly weak field of candidates.

Bitter Clinger on January 23, 2014 at 4:46 PM

What a Goober.

Marcus on January 23, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Goober = One who believes atheist bloggers & Democrat pols when they twist a great speech.

itsnotaboutme on January 23, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Attack. Hit back and hit back harder. Call them baby-killers, call them deadbeat moochers and losers, and make them pay. They are animals who act like animals and only understand pain.

….You are delusional if you think shutting up will help Republicans. The media and the Left are a bunch of malicious liars, and if it isn’t birth control, it will be something else. Republicans should attack them directly and call them malicious and sick liars and criminals who have no morals or values and only want to steal from hard-working Americans.

Attack. Hit back and hit back harder. Call them liars, call them bigots, call them terrorists and extremists, and make them pay. They are animals who act like animals and only understand pain.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2014 at 4:43 PM

I like it.

conservative pilgrim on January 23, 2014 at 4:49 PM

*face palm* So true. Iran could have the bomb ready and who would know?

conservative pilgrim on January 23, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Well, we’ll know Iran has the bomb when the MSM suddenly reveals that Bieber is going for a sex-change operation.

PersonFromPorlock on January 23, 2014 at 4:50 PM

This is, as anyone who reads at a third-grade level

Well that eliminates most of the Dem voter base right there.

tdpwells on January 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM

You are aware that Obama won voters with graduate degree’s right? So that means that the more educated you are, the more likely you are to vote democratic. Try to think of some insults that are based in reality and not in your imagination.

Ric on January 23, 2014 at 4:50 PM

“Whoever said it, it sounds offensive to me, and to women,” Carney told reporters after saying he hadn’t seen reports of Huckabee’s remarks.

Well, gee, I’ve known a few women but I’ve never known any that would let a little, ferret-faced beta-boy like Jay Blarney speak for them.

M240H on January 23, 2014 at 4:50 PM

All I ask is that we not make it easy for them. That’s not too much to ask.

cbenoistd on January 23, 2014 at 4:51 PM

When you don’t control the media, you don’t control the message.

Any which way, the “war on women” will continue and any single Republican can be quoted as “offensive”, the “offensive” gets passed on to each and every Republican.

There is no way to plan AND win this hand.

Carnac on January 23, 2014 at 4:52 PM

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bluegill on January 23, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Not a chance. I’d rather have him pi** away his millions here.

M240H on January 23, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Really, Huckster, please go away. You gave McCain in 2008. And while I like Palin, I can’t stand the old dude she ran with.

ConservativePartyNow on January 23, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Graduate degrees= Educated dummies.

birdwatcher on January 23, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Well, we’ll know Iran has the bomb when the MSM suddenly reveals that Bieber is going for a sex-change operation.

PersonFromPorlock on January 23, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Naw, based on all the pix with various women, he likes women too much.

Of overriding importance though is did Biebs egg his neighbor’s house??? I really need that question answered. ///

conservative pilgrim on January 23, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Good for the Huckster.

He’s right on!

We need to promote BOTH genders.

Of course if we do the Left will get outraged that we excluded transgenders, but they are a very small minority.

KirknBurker on January 23, 2014 at 4:58 PM

You are aware that Obama won voters with graduate degree’s right? So that means that the more educated you are, the more likely you are to vote democratic. Try to think of some insults that are based in reality and not in your imagination.

Ric on January 23, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Actually, the reverse is true — the LESS educated you are, the more likely you are to vote for Obama.

And that’s typical. The Obama Party platform is that stupid and idiotic behavior such as getting pregnant out of wedlock, dropping out of school, doing drugs, and the like, should be rewarded with unlimited welfare, Obamaphones, food stamps, and housing subsidies — while those who stay in school, get an education, work, and save should have taxes raised on them constantly to punish them and “redistribute” their wealth.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2014 at 4:59 PM

You are aware that Obama won voters with graduate degree’s right? So that means that the more educated you are, the more likely you are to vote democratic. Try to think of some insults that are based in reality and not in your imagination.

Ric on January 23, 2014 at 4:50 PM

He said the Dem base. Voters with graduate degrees are a small segment of the population. You need to work on your reading comprehension as well. The democrat base largely consists of those reliant upon government, inner city, low education, low income, single, minority, etc.

Zetterson on January 23, 2014 at 5:00 PM

As much as I like Huckabee, he keeps stepping in it……. not ready for prime time.

ultracon on January 23, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Really, Huckster, please go away. You gave McCain in 2008. And while I like Palin, I can’t stand the old dude she ran with.

ConservativePartyNow on January 23, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Not yet, let the decoy stay around and take the media’s arrows while the real candidates work below the their radar.

kcewa on January 23, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Alla, it’s not an irresistable compulsion, it’s a fundamental drive that is not to be indulged promiscuously.

Sex is fundamental to being human, and the family is also, whether you see a moral propriety to it or not. And the decline of the nuclear family is the direct result of increases in promiscuity, which has been divorced in large part from familial and social responsibility by The Pill. (And then abortion.)

This is a moral issue of tremendous social import and you dismiss it as ignorant moralizing.

flicker on January 23, 2014 at 5:05 PM

You are aware that Obama won voters with graduate degree’s right? So that means that the more educated you are, the more likely you are to vote democratic. Try to think of some insults that are based in reality and not in your imagination.

Ric on January 23, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Just because they have a degree doesn’t mean that they are educated .

burrata on January 23, 2014 at 5:07 PM

As an old white dude, why do old white dudes keep lecturing on contraception? Talk about late term abortion or something most everyone else agrees with…..just not rape and contraception.

Tater Salad on January 23, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Just because they have a degree doesn’t mean that they are educated .

burrata on January 23, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Indeed. They’re just more indoctrinated.

Bitter Clinger on January 23, 2014 at 5:13 PM

He said the Dem base. Voters with graduate degrees are a small segment of the population. You need to work on your reading comprehension as well. The democrat base largely consists of those reliant upon government, inner city, low education, low income, single, minority, etc.

Zetterson on January 23, 2014 at 5:00 PM

And what he said was factually incorrect considering that hs dropouts only make up 8% of the population. Which isn’t nearly big enough to provide a electoral majority. The democratic base is made up of east and west coast voters based in large cities. Contrast this to Republican base which is made up of rural and sub urban voters based in the Midwest and south which in the aggregate are less educated and wealthy. Facts are stubborn things.

Ric on January 23, 2014 at 5:15 PM

the part of what Huckabee said that does deserve scrutiny, the bit at the end about birth control as the province of people who can’t control their urges. That’s his way as a devout Christian of giving thumbs down to fornication, I take it; if you’re not practicing premarital abstinence, it must be because you’re incapable on some level and need contraception to protect you from the consequences.

Really? Is that was what he was saying our was that your take on his quote because you know he is an Evangelical Christian. Maybe he was saying that the Democratic Party only looks at women as sexual creatures that cannot control themselves. When was the last time a Democrat gave a speech to women about unemployment or international relations.

I also like how you used the biblical term fornication to bias the reader even more.

OliverB on January 23, 2014 at 5:16 PM

damn socons

davidk on January 23, 2014 at 5:20 PM

For you folks bashing us who think social issues are important remember-you can not have a society without good values

Bullhead on January 23, 2014 at 5:20 PM

well we avoided the social issues like a plague in 2012 and we lost. Maybe it’s time to revisit some ideas. Women are better off in a strong marriage so are guys and so are children. The stronger the family the less government we need. Maybe we need to so how dems have a war on men going on. How the polices they push hurt men in divorces, in child rearing and destroy their families.

unseen on January 23, 2014 at 5:21 PM

I’m sick of the social issues. I can’t take it much longer. I understand that issues like debt, deficits, entitlement spending, dependency, etc. is too complex for your average voter but must our politics and elections be constantly determined by who supports or opposes this or that social issue?

Charlemagne on January 23, 2014 at 4:22 PM

So essentially you are saying you are incapable of considering more than one issue and coming up with a candidate that presents a good balance of social, economic, national security, and other issues. Not many people would admit they are of low intelligence.

Happy Nomad on January 23, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Huck is crushed by the same media machine that he’s telling all the other Republicans to fight, and the irony is sweet. What he says reminds me of those never quit fighting, lesser of two evils commentors here.

DFCtomm on January 23, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Seems like a spot-on assessment. Democrats, on balance, think of women as some helpless sex-crazed rabbits who would would be popping out babies all over the place if government didn’t step in and throw birth control at them.

OTOH, I have yet to hear of a man going before congress and beg politicians for free rubbers. We’ve got too much dignity for that. So, maybe there is some truth to their assessment.

crrr6 on January 23, 2014 at 5:24 PM

For you folks bashing us who think social issues are important remember-you can not have a society without good values

Bullhead on January 23, 2014 at 5:20 PM

We might as all become Democrats if we ignored the social issues. That is what those who bash social conservatives really are.

Happy Nomad on January 23, 2014 at 5:24 PM

I’ll compromise with the liberals. They can have all and whatever type of sex they want and for that we get stronger divorce laws where cheating on a spouse means you have a greater chance to pay or lose alimony, lose custody of your children, lose your house and pay out 70/30 of martial assets.

it would be for the children……..

unseen on January 23, 2014 at 5:24 PM

I’m sick of the social issues. I can’t take it much longer. I understand that issues like debt, deficits, entitlement spending, dependency, etc. is too complex for your average voter but must our politics and elections be constantly determined by who supports or opposes this or that social issue?

Charlemagne on January 23, 2014 at 4:22 PM

I think you’ve got it all wrong. You think you can separate responsible economic policy from a responsible and moral society, and I don’t think you can. It’s like looking for that stripper with a heart of gold, or the thief that only steals to feed his family and leaves behind an IOU. People just aren’t that compartmentalized. When you find someone whose life is a mess, then their finances are generally a mess as well. Why should it be any different for a nation?

DFCtomm on January 23, 2014 at 5:26 PM

OTOH, I have yet to hear of a man going before congress and beg politicians for free rubbers. We’ve got too much dignity for that. So, maybe there is some truth to their assessment.

crrr6 on January 23, 2014 at 5:24 PM

To be fair, doesn’t the health department have those out on the counter free to take as many as you like, as if they were candy or party favors?

DFCtomm on January 23, 2014 at 5:28 PM

I’m sick of the social issues. I can’t take it much longer. I understand that issues like debt, deficits, entitlement spending, dependency, etc. is too complex for your average voter but must our politics and elections be constantly determined by who supports or opposes this or that social issue?

Charlemagne on January 23, 2014 at 4:22 PM

ROFLMAO. That debt, deficits, entitlement spending and dependency are a direct result of the social polices pushed by the dems. If you want to tackle the debt and spending you have to tackle the social issues. Issues like senior care, out of wedlock births, abortions, adoptions, foster care, housing for single moms, drug users healthcare and rehab, prison spending on drug dealers.

You want to legalize pot and drugs go ahead but understand the costs of doing that in terms of increased healthcare, increased crimes increased broken families.

unseen on January 23, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Ric on January 23, 2014 at 5:15 PM

I believe it was Pew that found that Republicans are generally better educated and have better credit scores. That you think your voters are too incompetent to get an ID tells the tale.

Furthermore, I bet most Republicans would support a voter qualification basic civics test. Try floating that idea around Democrat circles – you’d be spat on or worse. Face it – your voters are a bunch of idiots.

crrr6 on January 23, 2014 at 5:30 PM

The Huckster needs to just go away.

cdog0613 on January 23, 2014 at 4:24 PM

I am no fan of Schmukabee. I genuinely dislike the guy. Having said that, his quote stands as a very elegant, concise, gentlemanly and eloquent statement on what liberal women really are: parasites (no credit to liberal men, either).

I think his show on Fox is for morons, he was a lousy governor and comes off like a boy scout simpleton, but what he said was rock solid. So, kudos and credit where it’s due.

thejackal on January 23, 2014 at 5:31 PM

To be fair, doesn’t the health department have those out on the counter free to take as many as you like, as if they were candy or party favors?

DFCtomm on January 23, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Yes, and I hear they also work when women take them and insist that men wear them. :-)

crrr6 on January 23, 2014 at 5:32 PM

And what he said was factually incorrect considering that hs dropouts only make up 8% of the population.

The current drop-out rate is 8.1%. About 15% of the population does not have a high school diploma.

http://statisticbrain.com/high-school-dropout-statistics/

davidk on January 23, 2014 at 5:32 PM

The current drop-out rate is 8.1%. About 15% of the population does not have a high school diploma.

http://statisticbrain.com/high-school-dropout-statistics/

davidk on January 23, 2014 at 5:32 PM

that number will go way up when amnesty is passed. I would say it would be closer to 30% after amnesty is passed.

unseen on January 23, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Rather than convening a forum on the Huckabee’s desirability or lack thereof, and his alleged faux pas in saying something that liberals could twise, conservatives of all stripes should be fighting back against yet another example of the liberals’ unceasing attempts to control the discourse by their faux outrage at “beyond the pale” comments.

They should be called out, mocked, and derided at every turn, rather than blaming the person who uttered the supposedly “offensive” remarks, in this case Huckabee.

Drained Brain on January 23, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Why do Republicans constantly bring up ‘birth control’ and women in the same sentence. I listened to the video…I liked the equality part …but shut up about birth control.

Women hear ‘birth control’ and automatically assume, the dumb ones do, that Republicans DO want to take away their choice…gives more fodder to the media. Media manufactures most of it, GOP should be smart enough to not give them more

Redford on January 23, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Oh, I don’t know, because of Sandra Fluke? I mean, a simple poster of Sandra is enough birth control for most men, but she made it a national conversation and she is a libturd hero.
That said, keep talking, Huckheifer. Killing your possible run for president now is advantageous.

AllahsNippleHair on January 23, 2014 at 5:42 PM

He criticized republicans. He bashed anyone who go along with the establishment.

TAARP on January 23, 2014 at 5:42 PM

why do old white dudes keep lecturing on contraception?

Tater Salad on January 23, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Because you don’t seem able to grasp the concept.

davidk on January 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Media, White House erupt at Huckabee for saying something about Democrats and women’s libidos

Sure sounds like a lot of blaming the victim. I’m not a Huck fan, but why is anyone hyperventilating about the attempt by the left to distort his words?

This is not a socon problem. This is a problem of letting the left define the issue and control the language. At least Huckabee is attacking the premise of their “War on Women” argument. That deserves a lot more respect than whining about how socons hurt everyone else on the right.

News flash: if you can’t stand for anything, then you’re going to spend your whole life apologizing and being embarrassed by those who do take a stand.

Does it really matter what he said?

If the story is all about what he said, then yes, what he said matters. Obviously.

What is truly absurd is the statement by Carney.

White House press secretary Jay Carney dismissed comments by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at a Republican meeting Thursday as “offensive.”

“Whoever said it, it sounds offensive to me, and to women,” Carney told reporters after saying he hadn’t seen reports of Huckabee’s remarks.

He hasn’t seen reports of what Huckabee said, but feels qualified to pronounce them offensive? How is it that such comments are taken seriously?

And how is it that people on the right are whining about how Huckabee said something unhelpful, when it’s the left that is misquoting him, and applying a standard that is designed to be impossible to meet? The standard appears to be, “You are not to speak. I do not like you.”

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 23, 2014 at 5:52 PM

I am not a huckabee fan but I like what he said. Screw jay carney. Let’s put the argument in the public sphere.

matthew8787 on January 23, 2014 at 5:56 PM

They should be called out, mocked, and derided at every turn, rather than blaming the person who uttered the supposedly “offensive” remarks, in this case Huckabee.

Drained Brain on January 23, 2014 at 5:35 PM

What do you suggest? It’s easy to say fight back, but you need to tell people how to fight back against a bias media. Most commentors here know about the media problem but what their short on is what to do about it. For example: why aren’t we making ala carte purchasing of cable channels our number one priority. It should be easy to sell to the general public, but the GOP is completely disinterested.

DFCtomm on January 23, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Nothing whatsoever wrong with what Huckabee said. Only stupid, pathetic women fall for the “war on women” line from the Democrats.

bluegill on January 23, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Where’s Marcus to tell us how our guys keep opening the door into their own noses?

Or does he only screech about guys he doesn’t like?

CurtZHP on January 23, 2014 at 6:02 PM

And if the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control, because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it.

Dork that Huckabee is, he isn’t saying women can’t control their libidos, he’s saying democratics are saying women can’t control their libidos.

jaime on January 23, 2014 at 6:05 PM

You are aware that Obama won voters with graduate degree’s right? So that means that the more educated you are, the more likely you are to vote democratic. Try to think of some insults that are based in reality and not in your imagination.

Ric on January 23, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Actually, the reverse is true — the LESS educated you are, the more likely you are to vote for Obama.

And that’s typical. The Obama Party platform is that stupid and idiotic behavior such as getting pregnant out of wedlock, dropping out of school, doing drugs, and the like, should be rewarded with unlimited welfare, Obamaphones, food stamps, and housing subsidies — while those who stay in school, get an education, work, and save should have taxes raised on them constantly to punish them and “redistribute” their wealth.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2014 at 4:59 PM

My Unifying Theory of Obama Voters is that fools voted for him. That includes the unsophisticated and uneducated, and those educated beyond their intelligence. As Orwell said, “One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool.”

The average intellectual of the Left believed, for instance, that the war was lost in 1940, that the Germans were bound to overrun Egypt in 1942, that the Japanese would never be driven out of the lands they had conquered, and that the Anglo-American bombing offensive was making no impression on Germany. He could believe these things because his hatred for the British ruling class forbade him to admit that British plans could succeed. There is no limit to the follies that can be swallowed if one is under the influence of feelings of this kind. I have heard it confidently stated, for instance, that the American troops had been brought to Europe not to fight the Germans but to crush an English revolution. One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool.

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 23, 2014 at 6:06 PM

“Whoever said it, it sounds offensive to me, and to women,” Carney told reporters

Who appointed this little pr1ck to speak for all women?

ddrintn on January 23, 2014 at 6:14 PM

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