Chuck Schumer to woo tea partiers by pushing left-wing economic populism or something

posted at 11:21 am on January 23, 2014 by Allahpundit

On a slow Thursday morning, we can all use a laugh.

Seriously, what am I missing here?

Schumer will argue that Democrats must defend popular government programs such as extended unemployment benefits and student loan subsidies to persuade Tea Party voters that they can benefit from federal programs.

“The average Tea Party member, like the average American, likes government run Medicare, likes government built highways and water and sewer lines, likes government support for education, both higher and lower,” he will say.

Schumer contends powerful Tea Party patrons such as David H. Koch and Charles Koch have directed the anger of many independent voters toward the government to ease federal regulation of their multibillion-dollar industries.

“Wealthy Tea Party leaders have convinced Tea Party rank and file and many other Americans that anti-government ideology is the answer to their problems — but many Tea Partiers and sympathizers support government programs — Democrats must exploit the difference,” Schumer’s office said in a statement announcing the speech.

The goal, in theory, is to drive a wedge between the puppetmasters whom lefties are convinced control the tea-party movement — i.e. their all-purpose Emmanuel Goldstein, the Kochs — and the rabble, who I guess Schumer thinks aren’t really opposed to big government deep down but have settled on that as an outlet for their disaffection over lost economic opportunities. This is, in other words, a variation on Obama’s bitter/clinger remarks from the 2008 campaign. O dismissed red-state culture as a reaction to jobs drying up in rural areas. Sounds like Schumer’s going to make a similar argument, but focused on politics more than culture. No one could possibly disagree with statism on principle, after all; those who profess to do so are either exploiting that sentiment for their own profit or being exploited. That’s an insulting assumption, but look at it this way: At least, for once, a prominent Democrat’s diagnosing tea-party motivations as something other than racist.

The grain of truth here is that, according to most polls, tea partiers do want to keep Medicare and Social Security. They’re not libertarians, by and large, and they’re certainly not anarchists who oppose government-run roads. How you get, though, from “I’m not a libertarian” to “…so therefore I must be a Chuck Schumer Democrat” is beyond me. What he’s really trying to do, insofar as the speech isn’t a standard issue jeremiad against the Koch brothers (which, given that he’s delivering it at the Center for American Progress, it probably is) is nudge Democrats and the media to encourage tea partiers to see themselves more in class terms rather than as part of a political movement. There are differences of opinion between wealthy Republicans and poor ones on big-picture economic questions and government help. Encourage class warfare, he probably reasons, and maybe you can convince some of these people to at least stay home on election day even if you can’t convince them to re-identify as liberal.

I think he’s kidding himself, partly because the cultural distance between tea partiers and Democratic leaders is so vast but mostly because TPers really do believe that bigger government is more pernicious on balance than salutary, despite the exception they make for entitlements. They’ve had endless illustrations over the past year alone, starting with Obama forcing millions of people off their health insurance plans in order to build a new utopian boondoggle. If the GOP ever made a move to significantly scale back Social Security and Medicare, that might create a new receptiveness on the right to Schumer’s pitch. But of course, it hasn’t and almost certainly won’t, Paul Ryan’s halting efforts to push some sort of reform notwithstanding. It’ll take a fiscal crisis to make that happen. And when it does, Democrats will necessarily be along for the ride.


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That was one of the funniest things I’ve read in days.

gophergirl on January 23, 2014 at 11:27 AM

So chuck Schumer’s been partying with Justin Bieber?

rbj on January 23, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Seriously, what am I missing here?

The fact that Schumer’s IQ is 2 digits?

peski on January 23, 2014 at 11:28 AM

I think he’s kidding himself, partly because the cultural distance between tea partiers and Democratic leaders is so vast but mostly because TPers really do believe that bigger government is on balance more pernicious than salutary

So while Cuomo tells anybody who disagrees with the radical left to get the hell out of his state; Schumer thinks anybody who disagrees is a complete and total idiot.

I thought VA was screwed with an out-of-control administration who arbitrarily have decided to expand medicaid and change the Constitution to include sodomy as a legitimate form of marriage. New York is even in worse hands.

Happy Nomad on January 23, 2014 at 11:28 AM

the loser doesn’t even know when or why the movement kicked off

DanMan on January 23, 2014 at 11:28 AM

“The average Tea Party member, like the average American, likes government run Medicare,

Nope.

likes government built highways and water and sewer lines,

Built with my tax dollars, water and sewer at the local level.

likes government support for education,

HELL, NO!

CurtZHP on January 23, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Good luck with that.

Lanceman on January 23, 2014 at 11:30 AM

So, Bernie Madoff’s boy has a plan!

Deafdog on January 23, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Schumer is always an impertinent thug.

He assumes the TEA party folks are all dumb.

Wait, the RINOs assume the same.

Epic times ahead, for the RINOs and Schumer.

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Nothing screams “successful political strategy” like telling people what it is that they believe and why.

People who support the Tea Party are, apparently, too dumb to know that its all a big scheme by the evil Koch brothers to ease regulation on their industries or something.

Good lord. I really am beginning to think that beyond the media – which is undeniably the single biggest political problem this nation faces – the next biggest problem is that politicians are surrounding themselves with more and more loyal yes-men. Is there really nobody remotely involved with any Democrat politician that understands that the average person who considers themselves a member of the Tea Party doesn’t give a rat’s behind about the Koch brothers ?

Or that it is a legitimate – yet rhetorical – political question as to how the Tea Party can at once support Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security and still believe they are “Taxed Enough Already” ?

That maybe, answering the question – how do you provide the safety net or whatever that these programs provide, without becoming a completely socialist country with chronic 10% unemployment and a GDP that creeps along at 1-2% growth ?

I mean, obviously that’s too much to ask from bomb throwing a-holes like Schumer

deadrody on January 23, 2014 at 11:33 AM

“Thank you God that Sen. Schumer reminded me that the gov’t is a force for good…duhhhh, what was I thinking before?” — TEA partier

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Let’s see. The Tea Party in general opposes high taxation, big government, massive spending programs(Porkulus for example), bailouts, out-of-control entitlement spending, and Obamacare just for starters. So Schumer’s brilliant political strategery is to tempt Tea Partiers with subsidies and welfare spending funded by their very own tax dollars? Good luck, Chuck.

Doughboy on January 23, 2014 at 11:34 AM

To be certain, I’m not even a TEA partier. I just like them. I’m a no partier. I left the Rs before it was hip.

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Schumer is a thug, with zero pretense of not being one.

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 11:36 AM

The goal, in theory, is to drive a wedge between the puppetmasters whom lefties are convinced control the tea-party movement — i.e. their all-purpose Emmanuel Goldstein, the Kochs — and the rabble, who I guess Schumer thinks aren’t really opposed to big government deep down but have settled on that as an outlet for their disaffection over lost economic opportunities. This is, in other words, a variation on Obama’s bitter/clinger remarks from the 2008 campaign.

Precisely. They view the Tea Parties as a bunch of angry white guys who are being manipulated by rich businessmen to blame it all on government.

They’re the elites, and the peasants are revolting.

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 23, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Oh, “thug is the new term for nig*er now” — that dummy on TV

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 11:36 AM

I support having highways and sewer lines, so, logically, I must want the government to be in charge of my healthcare and run up huge debts to pay for all kinds of social services.

My goodness, how did I not see this before? How could I have been so blind?

morganfrost on January 23, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Precisely. They view the Tea Parties as a bunch of angry white guys who are being manipulated by rich businessmen to blame it all on government.

They’re the elites, and the peasants are revolting.

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 23, 2014 at 11:36 AM

In both senses of the word, by the way.

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 23, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Schumer to poison Tea Party

I just saw this and laughed out loud.

Heck, every TEA partier already knows that Schumer is all poison.

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 11:38 AM

the exception they make for entitlements

Which is why I probably won’t be voting at all for a while….

Seth Halpern on January 23, 2014 at 11:38 AM

I want government to control everything because they’ve done such a great job of it.

When I think “competence” the first name at the top of my list is Chuck Schumer.

Bishop on January 23, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Chuck “Assault Weapon Ban” Schumer is going to get the Tea Party to love him?

Best laugh all morning.

Socratease on January 23, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Schumer is the anti-Christ wannabe.

jawkneemusic on January 23, 2014 at 11:40 AM

“Give Gondor the weapon of the enemy. Let us use it against him.”
—Establishment… Er Boromir

jaydee_007 on January 23, 2014 at 11:40 AM

“The average Tea Party member, like the average American, likes government run Medicare, likes government built highways and water and sewer lines, likes government support for education, both higher and lower,” he will say.

What a fool – no, they don’t. They paid, in heavy taxes, for the roads, and continue to. All else is bunk.

Plus, this s/b in the news, heavily.

Medicaid signups…when they die, their estates will be charged with the used and unused healthcare costs of the deceased.

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM

“Wealthy Tea Party leaders have convinced Tea Party rank and file and many other Americans that anti-government ideology is the answer to their problems — but many Tea Partiers and sympathizers support government programs — Democrats must exploit the difference,”

After one glance at that statement, I count at least six lies

ShainS on January 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM

I’ve got a better idea Chuck U. Screwmer.

The TEA Party has more in common with the left on the issues of “Too Big to Fail,” corrupt crony capitalism, and slime lobbyists.

Let’s unite to get rid of the corruption and then we can go back to our mutual disregard for one another.

See how that works Screwmer!

Jayrae on January 23, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Oh, “thug is the new term for nig*er now” — that dummy on TV

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 11:36 AM

So is clean, articulate, main-stream, storybook, etc.

Now where did I put that dogwhistle…

Lanceman on January 23, 2014 at 11:42 AM

The goal, in theory, is to drive a wedge between the puppetmasters whom lefties are convinced control the tea-party movement — i.e. their all-purpose Emmanuel Goldstein, the Kochs — and the rabble, who I guess Schumer thinks aren’t really opposed to big government deep down but have settled on that as an outlet for their disaffection over lost economic opportunities. This is, in other words, a variation on Obama’s bitter/clinger remarks from the 2008 campaign.

Precisely. They view the Tea Parties as a bunch of angry white guys who are being manipulated by rich businessmen to blame it all on government.

They’re the elites, and the peasants are revolting.

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 23, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Well, they know that most of the Leftist Rabble is Paid Protestors who haven’t a clue as to why they are gathered to protest – They just assume that the Tea Party is the Same.

jaydee_007 on January 23, 2014 at 11:44 AM

The goal, in theory, is to drive a wedge between the puppetmasters whom lefties are convinced control the tea-party movement — i.e. their all-purpose Emmanuel Goldstein, the Kochs — and the rabble, who I guess Schumer thinks aren’t really opposed to big government deep down but have settled on that as an outlet for their disaffection over lost economic opportunities. This is, in other words, a variation on Obama’s bitter/clinger remarks from the 2008 campaign. O dismissed red-state culture as a reaction to jobs drying up in rural areas.

Maybe if Schumer and Gov. Cuomo would get out of the way and allow fracking for natural gas in southwestern New York State, there just might be lots more jobs in rural areas.

But since Gov. Cuomo believes such people don’t have a place in New York State, they might move south of the border into Pennsylvania, where frackers receive a warm welcome from the local population, due to the money they bring in…

Steve Z on January 23, 2014 at 11:44 AM

FU Schumer does know that you make a statement and then you HAVE to back it up with proof to win an argument. Just saying it doe not win. I take that back for low IQ voters (i.e. democrats) it wins all the time. The Big Lie does not float so well with people that have triple digit IQs and common sense.

However, thanks for laugh.

jukin3 on January 23, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Chuckie, just for you, shhhhh

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Chuck & his staff have obviously spent zilch time making themselves familiar with what Tea Partiers think and what motivates them.

ydee_007 on January 23, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Yeah, I think there’s a lot of projection going on here—that the Tea Party is the political Right equivalent of the mindless Left Kool-Ade drinkers.

INC on January 23, 2014 at 11:50 AM

“So how is that big government solution to our health care working out Senator Schumer?”

Tater Salad on January 23, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Chuckie, just for you, shhhhh

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 11:49 AM

:)

INC on January 23, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Lanceman :)

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 11:51 AM

I can understand how the people in D.C., after watching this nation twice elect The Won, think that we are all pretty stupid but nobody is that stupid. Allowing us to keep our own money, in the form of tax cuts, is blatantly un-American but giving us money in the form of “perks” after it has financed a huge bureaucracy is going to fly? Come on, Chuck.

Cindy Munford on January 23, 2014 at 11:52 AM

“The first…who’s articulate and bright and clean

The thugs in pajamas, obama and Schumer

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 11:52 AM

This is going to work as well as Wendy Davis running for Texas governor on Andrew Cuomo’s political platform.

jon1979 on January 23, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Schumer at his smarmiest…

And an illustrated thesaurus could post his picture next to smarmy.

Drained Brain on January 23, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Whoa! How cone Chrissy didn’t catch that racist comment?

Lanceman on January 23, 2014 at 11:55 AM

I think people need to stop putting Senate races into some kind of a national context. Schumer is not the least bit interested in what anyone outside of NY thinks. So what someone in Texas or Florida or Kalamazoo thinks about Schumer isn’t really valid. When Schumer is talking about the “Tea Party” he is talking about it in the context of NY State politics, not national US politics. In NY state, the biggest accomplishment to date by the Tea Party was in getting Democrat Bill Owens elected to the House by primarying the “establishment” GOP candidate who was a shoo-in for the seat with a candidate who was way out of line ideologically with the people in the district. Sure, Hoffman was all “conservative” but the problem was that he was much MORE conservative than the people who were doing the electing and as a result, the Democrat won.

Schumer is playing on the mass unpopularity of the Tea Party in a blue state. Coming out very vocally for the Tea Party in a deep blue state automatically costs someone votes and makes it less likely to win.

In NY, Democrats are 49.5% of the electorate as of November 2013. Republicans are 23.7% of the electorate. So a candidate could appeal to 100% of Republicans and still lose by 20 points. To win in NY, you must appeal to Democrats, there just aren’t enough Republicans to get someone elected to statewide office. In fact, you can completely ignore Republicans in NY because independents and Democrats make up about 70% of the electorate.

People have to be OK with the fact that NY is a liberal state. Any Republican elected by the people of NY is not going to be a Texas conservative. The “Tea Party” as it is defined now with these various national groups claiming to be the ideological and funding standard bearers for the movement is not popular in New York. Expecting a NY candidate to exhibit TX values is fantasy world stuff. It isn’t going to happen.

crosspatch on January 23, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Chuck CAN’T be this stupid can he? Where does this jerk think the money will come from to fund all these popular programs? TAXES! What does TEA stand for? Taxed Enough Already!

Herb on January 23, 2014 at 12:00 PM

The fact that Schumer’s IQ is 2 digits?

peski on January 23, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Fixed.

NOMOBO on January 23, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Another Rotten politician from New York…

..you know I’m starting to think what Christie did was
a good idea…..

ToddPA on January 23, 2014 at 12:02 PM

What does TEA stand for?

Herb on January 23, 2014 at 12:00 PM

It stands for racism, straight up because our limbic brains don’t like a black man in the White House.

Lanceman on January 23, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Who is Emanuel Goldstein and I thought the Koch brothers hated the Tea Party and firmly aboard the Establishment train.

Cindy Munford on January 23, 2014 at 12:02 PM

government built highways and water and sewer lines

When a new highway is built the governments takes bids from outside companies to see who will get the contract to build it. The tax money comes from citizens working in the private sector.

Schumer, next time you see a highway remember you didn’t build that, someone else made that happen.

agmartin on January 23, 2014 at 12:02 PM

If it was not announced one would think this came from The Onion…

ojfltx on January 23, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Government can be a is force for good.

There, fixed it for ya.

njcommuter on January 23, 2014 at 12:04 PM

What would really be funny is if Chuck is going to give us perks that we have to pay back at really low interest rates! Unsolicited.

Cindy Munford on January 23, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Chucky, Chucky, still stuck on stupid I see.

JimK on January 23, 2014 at 12:05 PM

The goal, in theory, is to drive a wedge between the puppetmasters whom lefties are convinced control the tea-party movement – and the rabble,

Let’s get to work on confusing the Tea Party the way we have so successfully confounded our own voters!

lynncgb on January 23, 2014 at 12:07 PM

The average Tea Party member, like the average American, likes government run Medicare, likes government built highways and water and sewer lines, likes government support for education, both higher and lower,” he will say

You didn’t build that…

canditaylor68 on January 23, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Yeah, right. Drop dead, sleaze-bag.

S. D. on January 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Chuck could sell aluminum siding to Buckingham Palace.

cbenoistd on January 23, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Schmuck Choomer must be lighting up again.

I know, snark and run. But I’m kinda busy today.

NOMOBO on January 23, 2014 at 12:15 PM

This is ridiculous. There is a reason he put this out there. The democrats are disgusting, but politically they are too savy to think there is any truth to this. The TEA Party is attempting to overtake the GOP precisely becuase they agree with dems on far too much.

JAGonzo on January 23, 2014 at 12:17 PM

“The average Tea Party member, like the average American, likes government run Medicare, likes government built highways and water and sewer lines, likes government support for education, both higher and lower,” he will say.

Is Chuck making that statement from a smoke shop in Colorado?

The average “Tea Partier”, if there is such a thing in that diverse community distrusts government (because they are focused enough not to be distracted) and, like most other Americans, thinks the government is too big.

But they “support” wasteful spending and government control of all those programs he mentioned? Huh?

Marcus Traianus on January 23, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Don’t ever forget that Rubio stands with Chuck Schumer on amnesty.

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 12:24 PM

The grain of truth here is that, according to most polls, tea partiers do want to keep Medicare and Social Security.

Like Pete Schiff told Lawrence O’Donell on the “Ed the red show”. “Well, if you hadn’t taxed the hell out of them their whole working life for it”.
So if Schumer thinks he can con those he’s Ponzied his whole life, go get’em Chucky Schmucky.

onomo on January 23, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Should someone bother to tell King Schumer he’s not wearing any clothes?

VastRightWingConspirator on January 23, 2014 at 12:28 PM

So chuck thinks at heart the TP crowd just hasn’t been convinced to belly-up to the govt teat? And the Dems can convince us that our big money barons are horrible but the liberal big money guys are wonderful?

More likely Schumer is just playing agitator to foment trouble between the TP grassroots and the GOP establishment. Of course that seems to be working pretty well without the ridiculous idea that the TP discontents would turn to the Dems.

katiejane on January 23, 2014 at 12:32 PM

If the GOP ever made a move to significantly scale back Social Security and Medicare, that might create a new receptiveness on the right to Schumer’s pitch.

If the GOP insists on shoving amnesty through, I will be totally on board with Schumer and the democrats. Bring on the $15/hr minimum wage, windfall profits tax, higher corporate tax rates, and anything else that kicks big business, the Chamber of Commerce and the GOP in the teeth.

xblade on January 23, 2014 at 12:37 PM

What everyone should take notice of is their strategy to divide us.

Democrats, and those in Washington, know our greatest strength is if we move together.

It’s about time we solved our differences as a party and nation to kick some political ass instead of each other.

Marcus Traianus on January 23, 2014 at 12:39 PM

No Chuckie, anywhere Government has DimocRat involvement in it, CANNOT be a force for ANY “good” whatsoever. And I’ll add that MOST instances where the GOP is involved cannot be a force for “good” either.

Meople on January 23, 2014 at 12:40 PM

What everyone should take notice of is their strategy to divide us.

Democrats, and those in Washington, know our greatest strength is if we move together.

It’s about time we solved our differences as a party and nation to kick some political ass instead of each other.

Marcus Traianus on January 23, 2014 at 12:39 PM

That would be swell. Tell the GOPe to stop declaring war on Conservatives and the Tea Party.

And then tell them to stop pushing Obamnesty.

And then tell them to get off their a$$es and do something about ObamaGlitch.

And then tell them to stop agreeing to raise taxes.

And then tell them to stop raising the fracking debt ceiling.

And then tell them to stop acting like Democrats.

And then…ohh never mind. They’re not going to stop doing any of these things, so yeah, guess we have some irreconcilable differences there.

Meople on January 23, 2014 at 12:45 PM

“He will … remind the Tea Party and its supporters that government can be a force for good.”

Overwhelming evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.

MisterElephant on January 23, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Of course Tea Partiers have so much in common with the same government that sics the IRS and every other regulatory agency on them for daring to oppose the agenda of Chuck Schumer’s party.

Gator Country on January 23, 2014 at 12:51 PM

The grain of truth here is that, according to most polls, tea partiers do want to keep Medicare and Social Security.

Sadly

Kataklysmic on January 23, 2014 at 1:00 PM

You all should see the ridiculous comments on TPMDC today concerning this dweeb. Sheesh, what a bunch of ignorant leftists!

HiJack on January 23, 2014 at 1:03 PM

LOL the politicos and the beltway news types are so used to the left’s astroturfing that they have absolutely no concept of what the organic structure of the tea party is like. What they can never understand is that it truly was a grassroots opposition that began with Bush bailing out private markets, started building with the special interest “stimulus” and “I won”, and reached a boiling point when they rammed O-care down peoples throats at Christmas time.

Their only hope of killing it rests with having the IRS going all gestapo on it and then having Congress drown it with illegals.

specialkayel on January 23, 2014 at 1:03 PM

The grain of truth here is that, according to most polls, tea partiers do want to keep Medicare and Social Security.

Sadly

Kataklysmic on January 23, 2014 at 1:00 PM

What do you expect? We’ve paid into it all of our lives, so we should be able to get some return. I know, it’s a catch-22, but it is the way it is.

HiJack on January 23, 2014 at 1:05 PM

One has to wonder if Chuckie actually believes the bovine excrement that he peddles.

GarandFan on January 23, 2014 at 1:14 PM

What do you expect? We’ve paid into it all of our lives, so we should be able to get some return. I know, it’s a catch-22, but it is the way it is.

HiJack on January 23, 2014 at 1:05 PM

The way I look at it is I’ve paid taxes all my life too and what do I have to show for that? Very little. The hard truth is that unless Americans are willing to make some very tough choices we’re going to go bankrupt.

Kataklysmic on January 23, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Tea Party voters that they can benefit from federal programs.

Why didn’t ya tell us we was get’n some of the loot…… Sure I don’t mind if that thug robs the guy at the bus stop. Why not make it exciting and bust a cap in his head while ya at it.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on January 23, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Government can be a force for good.

So can a rigid rectal stent for an obstructing cancer.
Doesn’t make it an appealing option. Better to prevent the cancer in the first place.

orangemtl on January 23, 2014 at 1:21 PM

For you, Chuckie – the guy might not live much longer.

“This is the smoking gun. For years, we have been saying the real agenda behind this administration’s energy and environmental policies is just what President Obama has said it is: to fundamentally transform America.

“In his testimony under oath, Beale, perhaps unwittingly, has laid bare the administration’s end goal. The President’s policies are not about carbon, they are not about coal, they are not even about energy and the environment. They are about fundamentally altering the DNA of the capitalist system. These policies are not about energy, but power.

“Beale was ordered by EPA administrator to head the agency’s climate change efforts. Today’s publicly released deposition means that McCarthy has many more questions to answer about her bad judgement regarding Beale and the true nature of the administration’s climate action plan.”

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 1:21 PM

onomo on January 23, 2014 at 12:26 PM

‘xactly – it s/b phased out.

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2014 at 1:22 PM

As a movement, Tea Partiers are fiscal conservatives and constitutionalists. Contrary to what liberals and the mainstream media believe, there is no leader of the TEA Party, including the Koch brothers, et al. It is a true grassroots movement, so throwing Medicare and Social Security in their faces would be a waste of time. As far as the elections, Tea Partiers want to elect people who will actually stand on principle and act on the issues they campaign on instead of just simply using the issue for their campaign.

lea on January 23, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Any wooing by Chuckyou is likely comparable to Aaron Hernanadez inviting his buddy out for a midnight drive….

dentarthurdent on January 23, 2014 at 1:24 PM

The way I look at it is I’ve paid taxes all my life too and what do I have to show for that? Very little. The hard truth is that unless Americans are willing to make some very tough choices we’re going to go bankrupt.

Kataklysmic on January 23, 2014 at 1:15 PM

There are plenty, PLENTY of ways to cut other areas of the Federal FAT to eliminate unnecessary, “non-essential”, and completely unneeded programs, departments, idiotic studies, green-energy scams, and other waste each year, so we would have more than enough to cover medicare and social security.

There are ways to restructure the current programs that would save all kinds of money.

The Obama Regime, the DimocRats in Congress and the GOPe, aren’t willing to do ANY of what I’ve mentioned. They would rather have the “crisis” to run on and use for their next election.

Meople on January 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Maybe Chuck could negotiate what laws citizens get to break when they give amnesty to illegals.

Cindy Munford on January 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM

We need younger Americans to just acknowledge that everything we have paid to the government is lost forever. I would even agree to continue to pay into SS for a certain period of time if it is eventually phased out. We also need to begin to look elsewhere for insurance when we get into retirement.

JAGonzo on January 23, 2014 at 1:31 PM

First off, big corporations aren’t really afraid of regulations. They hirer lawyers to manipulate the regulatory agency, some lobbyists to change some details, some former regulators to massage the agency and pass on all the costs to their costumers. Only competition controls large corporations. Look at Nokia. It collapse because it refused to keep up with its competitors technologically. All the regulations in the world had no effect expect for growing the number of government workers.

Fred 2 on January 23, 2014 at 1:33 PM

The only thing that exceeds Chuckie Schumer’s contempt towards the average American is my contempt of Chuckie Schumer.

In a Senate that is rife with incompetents, ideologues, and useful idiots, Schumer is in a class of his own…nearly as vile and corrupt as Dingy Harry.

Athos on January 23, 2014 at 1:35 PM

First off, big corporations aren’t really afraid of regulations. They hirer lawyers to manipulate the regulatory agency, some lobbyists to change some details, some former regulators to massage the agency and pass on all the costs to their costumers. Only competition controls large corporations. Look at Nokia. It collapse because it refused to keep up with its competitors technologically. All the regulations in the world had no effect expect for growing the number of government workers.

Fred 2 on January 23, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Wrong. All of what you said to start off is right. Where you’re wrong is the consequences of over-regulation.

Less money available to HIRE PEOPLE. 92 million people are now NOT working in America. The more regulations a company has to deal with, the less capital is available to hire employees.

See ObamaGlitch if you need an example of what I’m talking about.

Meople on January 23, 2014 at 1:37 PM

No Chuckster, Tea Part folks have an excellent memories.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEfICUoWKBw

diogenes on January 23, 2014 at 1:37 PM

There are plenty, PLENTY of ways to cut other areas of the Federal FAT to eliminate unnecessary, “non-essential”, and completely unneeded programs, departments, idiotic studies, green-energy scams, and other waste each year, so we would have more than enough to cover medicare and social security.

There are ways to restructure the current programs that would save all kinds of money.

The Obama Regime, the DimocRats in Congress and the GOPe, aren’t willing to do ANY of what I’ve mentioned. They would rather have the “crisis” to run on and use for their next election.

Meople on January 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Of course nothing is ever going to be cut. These imbeciles won’t stop borrowing and spending until we hit the wall. I’ve paid into SSI & medicaid for over 25 years but I long ago came to grips with the fact that I’m never going to see any of it. I’d advise anyone under 55 to make their peace with that fact now.

Kataklysmic on January 23, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Of course nothing is ever going to be cut. These imbeciles won’t stop borrowing and spending until we hit the wall. I’ve paid into SSI & medicaid for over 25 years but I long ago came to grips with the fact that I’m never going to see any of it. I’d advise anyone under 55 to make their peace with that fact now.

Kataklysmic on January 23, 2014 at 1:44 PM

You’re right. But there WILL come a day, when these people have utterly destroyed the nation and our economy when we start hunting down the people responsible for doing it.

And I’m not talking about elections, or lawsuits, I’m talking about literally hunting them down, dragging them out in the street, well, since the NSA is watching, I’ll stop there.

Meople on January 23, 2014 at 1:48 PM

This guy is an idiot – and he thinks we’re all like him. NOT.

HomeoftheBrave on January 23, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Meople on January 23, 2014 at 1:48 PM

We’re cut from the same cloth.

Kataklysmic on January 23, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Seriously, what am I missing here?

Schumer will argue that Democrats must defend popular government programs such as extended unemployment benefits and student loan subsidies to persuade Tea Party voters that they can benefit from federal programs.

It’s like a drug dealer offering free hits to members of a citizen action group working to keep dealers out of a neighborhood. If they can turn members of the group, they become ineffective and the drug dealers can rule.

dominigan on January 23, 2014 at 1:53 PM


Meople on January 23, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Oh, I am so down with that!

HomeoftheBrave on January 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Well, they have been using the endearing term teabagger to woo the Tea Party folks over. That should work great! Nothing says “welcome!” like a smarmy, nasty, sexual double entendre being thrown in your face publicly and repeatedly.

jnelchef on January 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Proving what we’ve always known. These lefties are bat guano crazy!

neyney on January 23, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Schumer, John McCain’s buddy and Marco Rubio’s puppet master) is one of the most dishonest people in Congress (and that’s saying a lot). Schumer would have to complete four years of ethics training to become a used car salesman.

bw222 on January 23, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Meople on January 23, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I have a t-shirt that says “The hardest part of the zombie apocalypse will be pretending I’m NOT excited.” (with a silhouette of a scoped rifle).
There are all kinds of “zombies”……

dentarthurdent on January 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM

Looks like obama has added old chuckie to the chhom gang because he is smoking something….Bunch of dopes……

crosshugger on January 23, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Schumer contends powerful Tea Party patrons such as David H. Koch and Charles Koch have directed the anger of many independent voters toward the government to ease federal regulation of their multibillion-dollar industries.

I can’t disagree on the Koch Brothers. They are big proponents of amnesty. If push comes to shove (and it means money), the Koch Brothers will side with George Soros over middle class America.

bw222 on January 23, 2014 at 2:31 PM

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