Video – AZ homeowner, robbed twice in two days, reduces crime rate

posted at 10:01 am on January 18, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

Another story crosses the Hot Air desk this weekend which appears to invoke the Castle Doctrine, this one taking place in Arizona. A septuagenarian homeowner was awakened in the middle of the night by the sounds of someone entering his residence. When the subject turned out to be a stranger, rather than a family member, the homeowner took steps to secure the premises.

PHOENIX – Police say a Phoenix homeowner shot and killed an intruder Friday morning.

Phoenix police Sgt. Tommy Thompson said the shooting happened inside a home near 43rd Avenue and Bethany Home Road.

The suspect has been identified as 30-year-old William Thomas Mackey.

Thompson said officers responded to the home around 3:20 a.m. where the 77-year-old resident told them someone had burglarized his home the day before and that he was awakened on Friday by an intruder.

He said he realized the intruder was not a family member and got a shotgun. He told police he feared for his life and fired one shot at the suspect who was struck and fell to the ground.

The homeowner – who is not named in the story – doesn’t live in a safe neighborhood. Not only had he been robbed the night before, one of his neighbors interviewed for the story said she had been burglarized six times. It’s not hard to understand how someone in their seventies might seek to make sure they had the tools at their disposal to defend themselves and their property.

Following our story on Wednesday – which elicited a lot of comments from readers – I began wondering how many of these stories take place around the country without ever drawing any national media attention. (To be fair, this is a question raised by some of the commenters first.) It seems like every single time some maniac / bad guy pulls a gun and kills somebody, CNN, MSNBC and the rest of the national media are all over the story, dwelling on it for days and embarking on long tirades of “the deeper meaning” of the event. This seems to fit into the media theme that guns are inherently bad, and if there were only less of them there would somehow be less bad guys, or at least the bad guys would be less effective. I suppose there is some hypothetical truth to that if guns had never been invented, but the entire planet is full of them.

But when a citizen uses a weapon to defend themselves, their family or property from a perpetrator you only find the story in the local media and it quickly disappears down the memory hole. One reader mentioned an effort some bloggers were undertaking to compile an archive of these types of stories, but I haven’t located it yet. It seems like useful information to have at hand when elected officials are debating more gun grabbing laws in Washington and around the states.

This story also highlights what appears to be another highly disturbing trend. The reports we’re reading seem to show a definite pattern of criminals intentionally targeting the elderly who either live in remote, rural areas or more dangerous neighborhoods with insufficient police protection and community involvement. With that in mind, I wouldn’t be surprised if gun ownership was increasing among senior citizens even faster than among younger adults. It’s something to dig into this year, so we’ll try to see what statistics are available. (Your input is welcome as always.)

In closing, here’s the video of the news story covering this case. The floor is open for discussion.


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You don’t need a blog, the NRA publishes armed homeowner stories every month in their magazines.

Mini-14 on January 18, 2014 at 10:04 AM

It’s open season on white dudes.

NeoKong on January 18, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Bishop!

Mini-14 on January 18, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Sweet.

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Actually, it was a Skeet gun…so no harm, no foul.
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CWchangedhisNicagain on January 18, 2014 at 10:07 AM

One web site that aggregates some of these stories: http://gunssavelives.net/
The national media will log this one as a ‘gun crime’, though; their message is all that matters to them.

michaelo on January 18, 2014 at 10:09 AM

For some reason, a Queen song comes to mind.

msupertas on January 18, 2014 at 10:10 AM

He said he realized the intruder was not a family member and got a shotgun. He told police he feared for his life and fired one shot at the suspect who was struck and fell to the ground.

Score one for Sheriff “Plugs” Biden!

RoadRunner on January 18, 2014 at 10:13 AM

The homeowner – who is not named in the story – doesn’t live in a safe neighborhood.

We sent the Junior Logician to college in Phoenix this year. That isn’t the bad neighborhood. The “bad neighborhood” is a little further south along 43rd between Camelback and McDowell. The Junior’s apartment is a little further west on McDowell and the college is a little further east on Camelback and he has to drive through the bad neighborhood every day going to class. There is a lot of poverty in that area and a lot of drug use.

Then again, that is likely why the homeowner has a gun – because the bad neighborhood is that close…..

LL

Lady Logician on January 18, 2014 at 10:13 AM

The elderly are always targets because predators always attack the weak and the old. I am over 60 and am still in good enough shape to have the physical prowess for five minutes to kick some twenty somethings butt. However, my preference is to rely on either my M1911 or Browning Hi Power pistols.

Start here: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ and use the search function to locate DGU stories.

jerryofva on January 18, 2014 at 10:15 AM

As mentioned above, the NRA magazines publish a small list every month. Here is another place to read heartwarming accounts of pest removal: http://keepandbeararms.com/

warden on January 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM

neokong:

It’s more like open season on black people by black thugs. You only read about interacial crime because it’s a bigger story.

jerryofva on January 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM

Finally — some good news.

Jeddite on January 18, 2014 at 10:19 AM

The MSM may try to bury stories like this, but I’m sure we can count on Mayors Against Illegal Guns to draw attention to this story by declaring the robber a victim of firearm violence.

MinnesotaSlinger on January 18, 2014 at 10:19 AM

If you want self defense stories check This Ain’t Blog They put daily stories on there

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=39346

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=39351

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=39343

And since Hot Air hasn’t covered it here are some stories where the media and Pentagon brass are wetting themselves because ten years ago during the 4th battle Fallujah some Marines had to burn bodies because of the health risk but now they are looking into it.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=39348

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=39329

warren on January 18, 2014 at 10:22 AM

Stories like this should be repeated. Sorry this old guy had to have the experience, but there is no way of knowing what future crimes he may have prevented.

trigon on January 18, 2014 at 10:22 AM

Partisan pajama boy or Verbaldouche to arrive any minute now claiming this happens once a century, and that the old man should be jailed because he failed to call 911 and throw up on the intruder.

BeachBum on January 18, 2014 at 10:28 AM

The Dead Goblin Count is probably what you’re looking for. It’s a crowdsourced effort to track defensive gun uses and has been going on for over four years now. It started out at Jay Grazio’s “Stuck In Massachusetts” gun blog and now resides at my gun blog, Misfires and Light Strikes.

The rules are for the Dead Goblin Count are:

The goblin actually has to die. (No defensive display)

The shooting has to take place in the USA.

The shooter cannot be law enforcement/private security.

The shooter has to be law-abiding or reasonable semblance thereof.

The shooting has to occur to stop the commission of a crime.

ExUrbanKevin on January 18, 2014 at 10:30 AM

Minnesota:

Funny you should say make that point. Here is one Bloomberg’s poster boys for gun control.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/01/robert-farago/anti-gun-maig-mayor-marcus-hook-jailed-for-gun-violence/

jerryofva on January 18, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Stories like this should be repeated. Sorry this old guy had to have the experience, but there is no way of knowing what future crimes he may have prevented.

trigon on January 18, 2014 at 10:22 AM

Who cares what the exact number is? The indisputable truth is that he prevented himself from being robbed along with any other future crimes, violent or not, that the would-be perpetrator would have committed. Justice – 1, Dead Guy – 0

gryphon202 on January 18, 2014 at 10:31 AM

You don’t need a blog, the NRA publishes armed homeowner stories every month in their magazines.

Mini-14 on January 18, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Yes, I always read that page first, 4-6 summary accounts of citizens protecting themselves from the criminals infesting our society.

Zorro on January 18, 2014 at 10:32 AM

For some reason, a Queen song comes to mind.
msupertas on January 18, 2014 at 10:10 AM

Keep Yourself Alive?

Akzed on January 18, 2014 at 10:33 AM

As I understand it, the burglary rate went down in Trayvon Martin’s neighborhood after his widely lamented passing. Correlation or Coincidence? I have heard several statistics about how many burglaries the average burglar commits in a year. I was surprised how high it was. Either they blow a lot of money on drugs or they don’t get much money per burglary or burglars have a more expensive lifestyle than I would have expected.

KW64 on January 18, 2014 at 10:35 AM

jerryofva on January 18, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Huh, what 20-something dude wouldn’t wanna piece of that?

Akzed on January 18, 2014 at 10:35 AM

http://www.gunssavelives.net

Hucklebuck on January 18, 2014 at 10:37 AM

Good Shot!

lhuffman34 on January 18, 2014 at 10:37 AM

We sent the Junior Logician to college in Phoenix this year. That isn’t the bad neighborhood. The “bad neighborhood” is a little further south along 43rd between Camelback and McDowell. The Junior’s apartment is a little further west on McDowell and the college is a little further east on Camelback and he has to drive through the bad neighborhood every day going to class. There is a lot of poverty in that area and a lot of drug use.
Then again, that is likely why the homeowner has a gun – because the bad neighborhood is that close…..
LL
Lady Logician on January 18, 2014 at 10:13 AM

The whole of South Phoenix is pretty much hell on earth, Maryvale being the 9th circle. At least our borders are secure though so none of these perpetrators were known felons in Mexico and unable to enter AZ. /

Kataklysmic on January 18, 2014 at 10:41 AM

I suppose there is some hypothetical truth to that if guns had never been invented, but the entire planet is full of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHn1zogeyO4

davidk on January 18, 2014 at 10:46 AM

The reports we’re reading seem to show a definite pattern of criminals intentionally targeting the elderly … .

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/01/17/police-investigate-2nd-elderly-assault-claim-in-2-weeks/

davidk on January 18, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Took care of business, and now there won’t be a third burglary. Best wishes to him.

Gingotts on January 18, 2014 at 10:48 AM

I like this site. I find it is frequently updated, succinct and rather interesting for the dry humor of the headlines.

Webrider on January 18, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Akzed:

I guess you missed the part about the firepower. :)

jerryofva on January 18, 2014 at 10:52 AM

Ah, but this is Maricopa County, where the Castle Doctrine doesn’t always apply.

I know a case where a man had been robbed in his own garage. Two weeks later, he heard noises in the garage and went to “secure the premises.” He called the cops first, of course. He found the same burglar who had attacked him two weeks prior again packing up his tools. He didn’t confront him, but closed the garage door to keep him there until the cops arrived.

But, the burglar broke through the door, and started pounding on the resident.

After being knocked to the ground several times, having his nose broken and teeth knocked out, the resident took out his pocket knife and stabbed his attacker.

Guess who was convicted of aggravated assault?

Lesson learned… after you have had to defend yourself, and the police come to investigate, make sure you say loud and clear… “I was afraid for my life.”

And pray the jury believes a person has a right to protect themselves.

itsacookbook on January 18, 2014 at 10:52 AM

ummm, ok why didn’t the link post?

http://www.rationalityrebooted.com/

Webrider on January 18, 2014 at 10:52 AM

wait, the old man just shot and killed the guy without any warning? I mean, couldn’t he just have held the guy at gunpoint till the police arrived?

don’t think the punishment for burglary should be death…

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

MSNBC headline “Person killed with an assault rifle in home”

LaughterJones on January 18, 2014 at 10:55 AM

About 760,000 accounts of defensive gun use per year. That’s about 2,000 per day in this country.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/07/Firearms-Are-Lifesavers

onomo on January 18, 2014 at 10:55 AM

jerryofva on January 18, 2014 at 10:15 AM

I’m 63. Since I click over from 62, I’ve been going downhill rapidly. I don’t have any kind of concealed carry permit and I don’t intend to get one.

I live in a pretty calm area, but if things go bad here or if I go to the “big city” I may start packing–just cause.

And with all the crap going down, I worry about my wife every time she goes out.

davidk on January 18, 2014 at 10:56 AM

You don’t need a blog, the NRA publishes armed homeowner stories every month in their magazines.

Mini-14 on January 18, 2014 at 10:04 AM

They used to have a book you could buy also. I bought one a few years back. It is about 2 inches thick or more and very large.. thousands of documented instances all across the country of homeowners defending themselves. Instances that never made it beyond the local news.

JellyToast on January 18, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Two more sources are equalforce.net, and bearingarms.com, which has a guns saving lives section.

Truly, if every child gun accident or bad gun incident is to be made into a national story, then these defensive gun uses should be too. They’re more dramatic and interesting, so clearly it’s because the media have a citizen control agenda. Fox is just as bad as the other networks.

DGUs happen 100,000 to 3 million times over year, depending on the study. Most involve just showing the gun or firing and missing, but scaring the attacker away.

juliesa on January 18, 2014 at 11:00 AM

Guess who was convicted of aggravated assault?

Lesson learned… after you have had to defend yourself, and the police come to investigate, make sure you say loud and clear… “I was afraid for my life.”

And pray the jury believes a person has a right to protect themselves.

itsacookbook on January 18, 2014 at 10:52 AM

My late brother-in-law was a retired Illinois State Trooper. He worked CSI. He told me not to keep mace around ’cause they could argue intent if you sprayed an intruder.

He kept, and my sister still does, a can of foaming wasp spray by the front door, the kind that shoots out several feet. He said you could then say you were chasing a wasp when the bad guy entered.

davidk on January 18, 2014 at 11:01 AM

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Hahahahahahahahaha……………God, you’re stupid.

BallisticBob on January 18, 2014 at 11:02 AM

When I took my CHL class in Houston, the majority of the class was over 50 and the class had more women than men.

txbelle on January 18, 2014 at 11:02 AM

don’t think the punishment for burglary should be death…

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

How do you know he was there for just a burglary?

juliesa on January 18, 2014 at 11:04 AM

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

How was the guy suppose to know if the other guy was armed or if he had more friends with him?

warren on January 18, 2014 at 11:04 AM

They want us to be like the UK where if someone breaks in you are expected to barricade yourself and children in one room while the burglars clean you out and you pray that they won’t harm you and your family and the police arrive 2 hours later. No, this is not an exaggeration.

Blake on January 18, 2014 at 11:06 AM

How was the guy suppose to know if the other guy was armed or if he had more friends with him?

warren on January 18, 2014 at 11:04 AM

the old guy had a shotgun pointed at the intruder, he could’ve held him up at that point rather than waste him like a roach…he made his decision and showed disregard for life

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:07 AM

don’t think the punishment for burglary should be death…

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Yeah, it should be.

Blake on January 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM

How do you know he was there for just a burglary?

juliesa on January 18, 2014 at 11:04 AM

common sense

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Yeah, it should be.

Blake on January 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM

what if the burglar was a down-on-his-luck unemployed schmoe trying to feed his 2 kids?

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:09 AM

NonPartisan:

It is generally considered illegal to point a gun at someone in a situation where you don’t believe your life is in danger.

Tell you what, if someone breaks into your house why don’t you just give him what he wants and if he wants to have sex with your wife/significant other then just tell her to lay back and enjoy it.

jerryofva on January 18, 2014 at 11:10 AM

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:07 AM

And if the thug had more friends with him? And if they were armed?

You roll the dice sometimes you lose.

warren on January 18, 2014 at 11:10 AM

He said he realized the intruder was not a family member and got a shotgun.

“Buy a shotgun. Buy a shotgun!”

Lanceman on January 18, 2014 at 11:10 AM

he made his decision

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:07 AM

You’re right,and that dbag won’t make that decision ever again.

BallisticBob on January 18, 2014 at 11:10 AM

And if the thug had more friends with him? And if they were armed?

You roll the dice sometimes you lose.

warren on January 18, 2014 at 11:10 AM

if he had armed friends, then the old guy just escalated the situation into a far more dangerous one than if he just stayed in his bedroom and dialed 911

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:10 AM

don’t think the punishment for burglary should be death…

It wasn’t. The consequence of stupid criminal conduct was death.

Just like stripping live copper conductors carrying 70,000 volts.

Ragspierre on January 18, 2014 at 11:11 AM

common sense

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Case law says differently. I’ve read about too many elderly woman who were brutally raped and murdered in their own homes.

Blake on January 18, 2014 at 11:11 AM

if he had armed friends, then the old guy just escalated the situation into a far more dangerous one than if he just stayed in his bedroom and dialed 911

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:10 AM

No, the friends just go running out the door.

Blake on January 18, 2014 at 11:12 AM

what if the burglar was a down-on-his-luck unemployed schmoe trying to feed his 2 kids?

Normally, you won’t catch me answering a phony troll, but this comment screams out for summa the ol’ Lanceman’s philosophy.

Once again, : “what if the burglar was a down-on-his-luck unemployed schmoe trying to feed his 2 kids?”

Heh! Oh phuckin’ well!

Lanceman on January 18, 2014 at 11:13 AM

don’t think the punishment for burglary should be death…

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Don’t break into someone’s house…Problem solved.

BigWyo on January 18, 2014 at 11:13 AM

How do you know he was there for just a burglary?

juliesa on January 18, 2014 at 11:04 AM

common sense

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Doesn’t always work that way

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2529190/Intruder-killed-Crossfit-owners-planned-abduct-rape-wife-attacked-hours-earlier.html

warren on January 18, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Remember from a few years back the young widow with the newborn? Two guys were outside her home and had to hear her talking to 911. But it was in the country and on NYE so they knew it would be a slow response. I think she even yelled she would shoot but they broke down the door anyway and she shot one dead and the other ran off.

Blake on January 18, 2014 at 11:14 AM

Crime rate will now mysteriously decline in that neighborhood.

rrpjr on January 18, 2014 at 11:14 AM

common sense

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM

*snicker*

what if the burglar was a down-on-his-luck unemployed schmoe trying to feed his 2 kids?

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Well, I guess he doesn’t have to worry about that anymore does he??

BigWyo on January 18, 2014 at 11:15 AM

common sense

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM

I’ve read that cover to cover and there’s nothing at all mentioned of this specific incident. Quite sure Paine would have approved of this expression of self-defense, though. “Arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe.”

Gingotts on January 18, 2014 at 11:15 AM

he made his decision and showed disregard for life

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:07 AM

So says the pro abortionist.

BeachBum on January 18, 2014 at 11:15 AM

There was a case in TX where during the day the guy heard kids prowling outside and called the police. The kids began kicking his door down. He yelled he had a gun but they kept at it and he shot the first one who came in.

You can call 911 and you can warn them you have a gun but they will just keep coming because they are no good and want to do you harm.

Blake on January 18, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Partisan pajama boy or Verbaldouche to arrive any minute now claiming this happens once a century, and that the old man should be jailed because he failed to call 911 and throw up on the intruder.

BeachBum on January 18, 2014 at 10:28 AM

then the old guy just escalated the situation into a far more dangerous one than if he just stayed in his bedroom and dialed 911

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:10 AM

I must be psychic.

BeachBum on January 18, 2014 at 11:19 AM

Remember from a few years back the young widow with the newborn? Two guys were outside her home and had to hear her talking to 911. But it was in the country and on NYE so they knew it would be a slow response. I think she even yelled she would shoot but they broke down the door anyway and she shot one dead and the other ran off.

Blake on January 18, 2014 at 11:14 AM

this one?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/okla-teen-mom-asks-911-for-permission-fatally-shoots-intruder-on-new-years-eve/

warren on January 18, 2014 at 11:19 AM

I lived 15 years on the edge of that neighborhood. Every New Year’s Eve we stayed indoors and away from windows near midnight because it sounded like Falluja on steroids. One guy starts with a couple of rounds, then every banty-rooster-mentality idiot tried to top it – up to and including full-auto (or bump fire, dunno which).

Got burgled as we moved in (between arrivals with more loads of household goods.)

Got burgled as we moved out (returned for a load and caught the perp red-handed at my back door, trying to jimmy it with a butterfly knife. Didn’t have to plug the perp because she (yes, a young, and very pretty Latina) instantly dropped the knife – and probably peed her pants – when Mr. Glock made his appearance.

To this day I thank God she dropped the knife. She was 3 oz. of trigger pull away from two shots to center mass because she was less than 8 feet away – a potential life-threatening situation – when I came around the corner.

Didja know that the cops show up pretty darn quickly when the 911 call says, “I have the intruder at gunpoint”?

My training at Front Sight helped A LOT in dealing with the officers who responded. Understand that until they get things sorted out, they MUST assume anyone could be the d-bag, so when the first cop on the scene (also a pretty female – who’da thunk it?) ordered – rather sternly – “Put down the gun and slowly back away from it towards me… etc.” I didn’t take it personally.

Local cops call that area “the shooting gallery” and the stats back it up.

One bright thing to note, we were never tagged, broken into, or harassed while we were living there. Perhaps because at every opportunity – taking out the trash, washing the car, mowing the lawn etc. – (and especially when the kids from the grammar school, middle school, and high school in our neighborhood ALL passed by that corner morning and afternoon) I wore my sidearm conspicuously. Every kid within miles knew that the ‘crazy old Vietnam Vet’ who lived there was heeled at all times. We even had one of those snarling bad guy targets – .40 cal and 00 buck holes in all the right places – affixed to the inside of our glass patio doors, facing outward. Cops saw it, grinned, and showed their squad mates.

Better to have it and not need it….

TenRing on January 18, 2014 at 11:19 AM

You know what would really be funny? If this guy had 6 kids, no baby-momma and the man from the bank came and put them all out on da schtreet! In the winter time! Priceless!

Lanceman on January 18, 2014 at 11:21 AM

if he had armed friends, then the old guy just escalated the situation into a far more dangerous one than if he just stayed in his bedroom and dialed 911

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:10 AM

I hope to god no one is ever in a potential life or death situation where they are dependent on your split second decision making.

The outcome would be decidedly in serious doubt.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on January 18, 2014 at 11:21 AM

common sense

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Common sense tells us that when someone has broken into your home, the safest thing to do is assume he is there to do the worst. The law agrees, and in most states you are allowed to kill anyone who breaks in. Once someone has broken into a home, his life is forfeit.

juliesa on January 18, 2014 at 11:22 AM

don’t think the punishment for burglary should be death…

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

If it makes you happier, think of it as evolution in action.

talkingpoints on January 18, 2014 at 11:22 AM

How do you know he was there for just a burglary?

juliesa on January 18, 2014 at 11:04 AM

common sense

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM

So says the person who has repeatedly demonstrated none.

hillsoftx on January 18, 2014 at 11:24 AM

You don’t need a blog, the NRA publishes armed homeowner stories every month in their magazines.

Mini-14 on January 18, 2014 at 10:04 AM

.
Yes, I always read that page first, 4-6 summary accounts of citizens protecting themselves from the criminals infesting our society.

Zorro on January 18, 2014 at 10:32 AM

.
Also, they’ve only been doing this since . . . . . forever ?

listens2glenn on January 18, 2014 at 11:25 AM

don’t think the punishment for burglary should be death…

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

.
How about home invasion? What do you think the resident has a right to do under the circumstances of home invasion?

ExpressoBold on January 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM

this one?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/okla-teen-mom-asks-911-for-permission-fatally-shoots-intruder-on-new-years-eve/

warren on January 18, 2014 at 11:19 AM

She was on 911 for 21 minutes. I’m not sure how long it took for the police to arrive but that had to be terrifying. I had read earlier that they were after drugs thinking that since her husband just died, there would be drugs in the home. But the story you linked to also sounded like at least one guy had a more prurient interest in the victim. Since, she knew him, do you really think they were going to leave her alive even if they only burglarized? Hardly.

Blake on January 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM

TenRing on January 18, 2014 at 11:19 AM

cool story bro…

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM

neokong:

It’s more like open season on black people by black thugs. You only read about interacial crime because it’s a bigger story.

jerryofva on January 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM

http://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime/

davidk on January 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM

what if the burglar was a down-on-his-luck unemployed schmoe trying to feed his 2 kids?

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Food stamps? EBT card? Soup kitchen?

talkingpoints on January 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Common sense tells us that when someone has broken into your home, the safest thing to do is assume he is there to do the worst. The law agrees, and in most states you are allowed to kill anyone who breaks in. Once someone has broken into a home, his life is forfeit.

juliesa on January 18, 2014 at 11:22 AM

just because he had the right to kill, doesn’t mean he SHOULD kill

“with great power comes great responsibility” – Uncle Ben

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:27 AM

wait, the old man just shot and killed the guy without any warning? I mean, couldn’t he just have held the guy at gunpoint till the police arrived?

don’t think the punishment for burglary should be death…

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

that’s real retarded sur

dmacleo on January 18, 2014 at 11:27 AM

the old guy had a shotgun pointed at the intruder, he could’ve held him up at that point rather than waste him like a roach…he made his decision and showed disregard for life

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:07 AM

That’s why people “deciding to regard life” ring the door bell.

onomo on January 18, 2014 at 11:28 AM

How about home invasion? What do you think the resident has a right to do under the circumstances of home invasion?

ExpressoBold on January 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM

it all depends on the circumstances

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Food stamps? EBT card? Soup kitchen?

talkingpoints on January 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM

What would really be funny is if it was a 16 year old. POW! Career ended early.

I’d like to get this guy a box of complimentary shells.

Lanceman on January 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM

wait, the old man just shot and killed the guy without any warning? I mean, couldn’t he just have held the guy at gunpoint till the police arrived?

don’t think the punishment for burglary should be death…

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.

davidk on January 18, 2014 at 11:32 AM

it all depends on the circumstances

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Gee, I sure hope your mom isn’t depending on You for any protection because while she’s being raped and murdered upstairs, you’ll be down in the basement pissing your pants trying to dial 911. Meh, no big deal, you’ll just have to make your own spaghettios.

BeachBum on January 18, 2014 at 11:32 AM

what if the burglar was a down-on-his-luck unemployed schmoe trying to feed his 2 kids? nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:09 AM

You should force entry into a home at night, ply the owner with that story, and let us know what happens. Please. In the name of science.

Akzed on January 18, 2014 at 11:33 AM

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Of which, you possess none.

tngmv on January 18, 2014 at 11:34 AM

don’t think the punishment for burglary should be death…

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

You could think of it as retroactive abortion.

talkingpoints on January 18, 2014 at 11:34 AM

POW! Guy’s no longer down on his luck. Is there no problem a loaded gun can’t solve?

Hot lead. Best problem solver evah!

Lanceman on January 18, 2014 at 11:35 AM

what if the burglar was a down-on-his-luck unemployed schmoe trying to feed his 2 kids?

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:09 AM

What the hell kind of argument is that?

What if the burglar was a cured zombie and was just lookin’ for his soul?

-or-

What if his name was Klatu and he was looking for our leader?

WTF?

tominsd on January 18, 2014 at 11:35 AM

don’t think the punishment for burglary should be death…

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Not in a country where you have a right to where blinders this tightly I suppose not. Should we ask his intent? Speculate? How do we know he meant any harm?
Forget walk/talk like a duck deductions, what color was he? To be fair its the first question Eric Holder would ask. Given the answer we could well be looking at a premeditated crime. This alleged self defense against an intruder could, and based on your blinder shade, should cost this man his life. Regarding your regard for… just curious, how many times you watch the 6 hr Richard Simmons “Join in GetCovered” video so far?

onomo on January 18, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Well, hot bismuth and copper, prolly. Lousy greenies.

Lanceman on January 18, 2014 at 11:37 AM

I told my kids don’t do anything stupid and ruin your lives,
so allow the old dude, I’ve lived, loved, climbed the mountains and flew the skies and if some scumbag, LoFoMoFo SOOB, (son of Obama) gives me a half a reason I will take em out, I Be Clint Eastwood now, old and pissed at what the Lyin Rats have turned my country into!
Good shootin Old Dude!

ConcealedKerry on January 18, 2014 at 11:40 AM

nonpartisan….still no signs your IQ is higher than 77…keep trying.

CWchangedhisNicagain on January 18, 2014 at 11:40 AM

wait, the old man just shot and killed the guy without any warning? I mean, couldn’t he just have held the guy at gunpoint till the police arrived?

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

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Not divulged within the article, is the physical condition of the 77 year old “potential victim.”
For some 65+ year old citizens, it would have been a MAJOR risk to attempt holding a 30 year old “home intruder” at gun point, while trying to give 911 operators all of the information that most of us know they’re going to request.
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don’t think the punishment for burglary should be death…

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

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The list of potential punishment consequences for entering a strange home, unannounced, at any time (never mind 3:00 AM), should absolutely include DEATH.

listens2glenn on January 18, 2014 at 11:41 AM

don’t think the punishment for burglary should be death…

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Well then wear protective armor when you decide to break into someone’s house.

CWchangedhisNicagain on January 18, 2014 at 11:41 AM

nonp…go phuck yourself.

CWchangedhisNicagain on January 18, 2014 at 11:42 AM

it all depends on the circumstances

nonpartisan on January 18, 2014 at 11:28 AM

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Hilarious! You already know the circumstances! The home had been invaded and, at the least, was being ransacked, burglarized and robbed. The big “what if” you want to avoid is “What if the burglar/home invader intended to kill the resident to cover up his identity?”
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You do agree that the home invader was in the act of committing a crime when neutralized, right? Right?

ExpressoBold on January 18, 2014 at 11:43 AM

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