Kentucky Dem: Beating McConnell is like liberating Europe from the Nazis

posted at 11:21 am on January 17, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

This is why campaigns usually vet speeches by surrogates at official events — because when someone essentially compares the upcoming election to the crusade to defeat the Nazis, well, they’d prefer not to have the candidate’s name on the podium when it happens.  Unfortunately, Alison Lundergan Grimes and her staff either didn’t check the speech delivered by state Representative Greg Stumbo, or Stumbo was following his inner Godwin while ad-libbing (via Andrew Johnson at The Corner):

“It reminded me of the feeling our troops must have had when they liberated the European nations after World War II,” state representative Greg Stumbo said at an event for McConnell’s Democratic challenger, Kentucky’s secretary of state Alison Lundergan Grimes. “Can you imagine what it felt like that you were liberating a country?”

“Well, you’re about to liberate your state from the worst reign of misabuse that we’ve seen in the last 30 years,” he added.

Gee, I don’t recall an election taking place in June 1944 in which our troops voted out the Nazis. I’ll check my history books. Also, for a legislator, Stumbo has a lot of difficulty in distinguishing what Senators actually do. They don’t “reign” over anything. A Senator has no executive power within his state at all. That power lies with the governor — Democrat Steve Beshear, who has held that office since 2007.

The use of Nazis for overblown hyperbole is so common across the political spectrum that it’s difficult to feel any outrage over it. It’s cheap, ignorant demonization that demonstrates an irrational hatred for political opposition and a lack of respect for the actual struggle to end Nazi domination — but it’s so easy because the Nazis have become the generic epitomization of an enemy.  That’s one reason why Mike Godwin created Godwin’s Law in the first place: “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.” It’s true in politics too, but it doesn’t usually take this short of a span for it to arise. Stumbo’s comment is useful to note that (a) the Lundergan Grimes campaign is still an amateur hour, and (b) they’re already desperate for real motivation — and real issue content — in the race.

Plus, for (c), it demonstrates the limits of Stumbo’s intelligence, but, er … res ipsa loquitur.


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Grimes/Godwin 2014!

Akzed on January 17, 2014 at 11:24 AM

And you’re going to hear more and more rhetoric like this as the year goes on. The Dems are running scared and they have run out of chips to play the game.

Walter L. Newton on January 17, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Beating McConnell(with Matt Bevin) is like liberating Europethe Republican Party from the Nazis GOP establishment.

Fixed it for us.

Meat Fighter on January 17, 2014 at 11:26 AM

“It reminded me of the feeling our troops must have had when they liberated the European nations after World War II…”

“It reminded me of something I never experienced and can only imagine.”

“Can you imagine what it felt like that you were liberating a country?”

We would have to imagine it if we, like you, have never done it. But it must be just like that.

Liberalism is a cognitive and emotional problem. Look how they talk! It’s evidence of poor thinking skills, and childish emotional interference in the thought process.

Akzed on January 17, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Just add it to the list of things you can get away with saying if you have a D after your name.

supernova on January 17, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Went to Webster’s for “misabuse.” Nope. Maybe next year, we’ll see “stumbo” as a verb.

cbenoistd on January 17, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Vote McConnel out. Come on Kentucky!!!

http://www.kentucky.com/2014/01/16/3037299/matt-bevins-us-senate-campaign.html

https://mattbevin.com/

Meat Fighter on January 17, 2014 at 11:33 AM

misabuse

I don’t know what that word means. Would it mean no abuse?

Liberals don’t know what the Nazis where. For them they are a mythical creature that is bad and maybe evil. From their point of view the same as the repubs.

Every time I start to think a liberal has some level of intelligence one has to open their mouth and show me I was wrong.

Dr. Frank Enstine on January 17, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Dumbo

Ben Hur on January 17, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Greg Stumbo has a real future. If not in the Democrat Party, then at least in their propaganda arm, MSNBC.

dissent555 on January 17, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Beating McConnell is like liberating Europe from the Nazis

Bwahahahahahaha

Supposedly the west went to the defense of the Poles after Hitler invaded…. you know… to free those people…. What happened after the war ended….. the Poles were put under the jack boot of the Soviets…… Fact is ….. voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for EVIL.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on January 17, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Godwin has been used by the leftist exactly the same way the race card has been used by them. We should disregard in like manner. Being accused of fascism by fascists, like being accused of racism by racists, is like arguing with a drunk about anything. Except the drunk may actually be unable to realize the ludicrous nature of his state.
The others are fundamentally unprincipled. These are the same unscrupulous alinskyites that end by pointing out the lack of other’s scruples.
Obama has turned this into a fine art form. Like a pedophile proudly running a daycare.

onomo on January 17, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Well, you’re about to liberate your state from the worst reign of misabuse since …

Well, irregardless, you’re moron, Stumbo.

M240H on January 17, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Good lord-I actually agree with a Democrat! As long as it’s done by Bevan,that is!

redware on January 17, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Derp

Good Lt on January 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Nope, living under Obama is more like living under a Nazi regime….

I mean Obama did say he was good at killing people…..

Beck had a piece yesterday about Weinstein and gun control….

The Nazi’s were gun grabbers. When they got all the guns….

Well go read a history book that has not been corrupted by the progressives.

redguy on January 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Stumbo’s a moron and an embarrassment to Kentucky. This is nothing new for him, unfortunately.

Call this what it is – McConnell Derangement Syndrome. Both right and left seem to be completely unhinged when it comes to this guy.

rockmom on January 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM

when someone essentially compares the upcoming election to the crusade to defeat the Nazis, well, they’d prefer not to have the candidate’s name on the podium when it happens.

Especially when it is a really large sign.

Happy Nomad on January 17, 2014 at 11:44 AM

There’s not doubt in my mind he’s hoping this will be picked up as an audition for MSLSD.

Cut from the same cloth as the rest of the maniacs on that crazy train.

tru2tx on January 17, 2014 at 11:48 AM

This buffoon should visit Yad Vashem, The Holocaust museum in Jerusalem. It would be the last time he uses the NAZI analogy.

ratherbskiing on January 17, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Went to Webster’s for “misabuse.” Nope. Maybe next year, we’ll see “stumbo” as a verb.

cbenoistd on January 17, 2014 at 11:32 AM

As in he “stumbo’d” into the unemployment line.

SteveInRTP on January 17, 2014 at 11:52 AM

“Kentucky Dem,” Ed? He is their Speaker, and you should have mentioned that important fact, IMO.

Christien on January 17, 2014 at 11:56 AM

What Kentucky really needs is liberation from Obama’s War on Coal. Anyone who thinks Allison Grimes is going to lead that charge is a fool.

rockmom on January 17, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Call this what it is – McConnell Derangement Syndrome. Both right and left seem to be completely unhinged when it comes to this guy.

Non-sequitur. It is not deranged to observe that McConnel is ill-equppied to lead the so-called conservative party at this point in our nation’s history. I don’t hate the guy and I think Republicans could do worse, but if we are to change course we need to change the leadership and it starts with him. Bevin seems pretty good, but he could turn out not to be. Fine, but that is a chance worth taking.

Meat Fighter on January 17, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Kentucky Dem: Beating McConnell is like liberating Europe from the Nazis

I first mis-read the headline as Kentucky Dam….. Thinking it had something to do with that pork that Mitch managed to get into the legislation ending the government shutdown when he went full surrender weasel against the conservative members of the GOP.

Obviously I read it wrong though I gotta say that the dam is probably a better speaker than the Dem.

Happy Nomad on January 17, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Confirmed: Party of fascism still engaging in political projection.

BKennedy on January 17, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Non-sequitur. It is not deranged to observe that McConnel is ill-equppied to lead the so-called conservative party at this point in our nation’s history. I don’t hate the guy and I think Republicans could do worse, but if we are to change course we need to change the leadership and it starts with him. Bevin seems pretty good, but he could turn out not to be. Fine, but that is a chance worth taking.

Meat Fighter on January 17, 2014 at 11:58 AM

If you do not want him to LEAD the party, then don’t support him as LEADER. He has been a great Senator for Kentucky and it would be a huuuuuuuuuuge victory for Democrats to oust him entirely. Matt Bevin has shown no indication that he can win a general election against a massively-funded Democrat, or that he would be a good Senator for anyone. His entire campaign is “Ditch Mitch.”

Why are conservatives so determined to give Denmocrats the scalp they want the most? Why not reelect him but then get someone else to be Majority Leader? If the GOP is really a conservative party now, surely some great conservative can win an election for Majority Leader, no?

rockmom on January 17, 2014 at 12:15 PM

“Godwin’s Law” has one drawback – it’s an easy defense for someone who wants to deflect from a situation in which the comparisons are not wholly inappropriate.

That said, this is not one of those situations.

Midas on January 17, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Why are conservatives so determined to give Denmocrats the scalp they want the most? Why not reelect him but then get someone else to be Majority Leader? If the GOP is really a conservative party now, surely some great conservative can win an election for Majority Leader, no?

rockmom on January 17, 2014 at 12:15 PM

I can think of a number of scalps the Dems would prefer to have. Why would they hate Mitch? He’s pretty easy to get along with and generally quite accommodating from their perspective.

And so long as Mitch gets re-elected, you think someone else will supplant him as leader? How do you imagine that being the case; if Mitch is re-elected, how do *we* simply “get someone else to be Majority Leader”? By asking ‘pretty please’?

Midas on January 17, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Retirement number 4? Oughta be.

ExpressoBold on January 17, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Beating Obama would be like liberating us from….Obama.

ToddPA on January 17, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Every city, town & state that are bankrupt are DemocRat governed. So whose a Nazi.

RdLake on January 17, 2014 at 12:36 PM

McConnell is a pascifist elitist who, I agree, needs to be replaced, but ‘Hitler’esque’? That’s like Charles Manson saying a wife-beater is a really bad guy.

easyt65 on January 17, 2014 at 12:42 PM

A progressive embracing projection?

What a surprise.

Athos on January 17, 2014 at 1:12 PM

McConnell is a conservative poser. If he were principled the potential for this massive power vacuum in a very red state would be nil. Godwin’s law was not supposed to apply to discussions of naziesque matters like genocide, racial superiority, totalitarian regimes, democrats. Sorry. So the despot quickly plays the Hitler card. Godwin be damned, that’s the DNC M.O. Fallacy of relevance.

onomo on January 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM

The use of Nazis for overblown hyperbole is so common across the political spectrum that it’s difficult to feel any outrage over it. It’s cheap, ignorant demonization that demonstrates an irrational hatred for political opposition and a lack of respect for the actual struggle to end Nazi domination

It’s history Ed. Liberals don’t learn history.

WryTrvllr on January 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

or economics

WryTrvllr on January 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

or how to read a non-digital thermometer.

WryTrvllr on January 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Godwin’s Law was not something he imposed. It was something he observed. Like observing the walking and quacking of a duck. I’d argue the evolution of the argument.
Too many ducks of late have declared their lack of quack while accusing others of just that. Onomo’s Law of Flock’n Alinskyites.
Or “How to fly on a lie”.

onomo on January 17, 2014 at 2:18 PM

We have people like Stumbo in NH too. One socialist state legislator is determined to drive all conservatives out of the state.

dogsoldier on January 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM

WryTrvllr on January 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

They don’t learn much, but they sure have a full opinion payload.

dogsoldier on January 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM

I’m confused – why would the Democrats want to oust someone who has provided them with so much support? I mean, what if a Republican was elected into this seat?

Over50 on January 17, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Context!!
-libtard

tommer74 on January 17, 2014 at 3:36 PM

I can think of a number of scalps the Dems would prefer to have. Why would they hate Mitch? He’s pretty easy to get along with and generally quite accommodating from their perspective.

And so long as Mitch gets re-elected, you think someone else will supplant him as leader? How do you imagine that being the case; if Mitch is re-elected, how do *we* simply “get someone else to be Majority Leader”? By asking ‘pretty please’?

Midas on January 17, 2014 at 12:22 PM

You obviously have never looked at HuffPo or Daily Kos or TPM or any of the other prog blogs. They HATE HATE HATE Mitch McConnell. Goes back to Mitch’s comment that “my number one priority is making sure Barack Obama is not re-elected.” This was tantamount to them to a Mob hit order on Obama. It is the foundation of the “Republican obstruction” campaign which the Obamabots believe is the real cause of Obama’s many failures. They have magnified Mitch McConnell into basically The Beast that has kept the evil Republicans together and kept their Messiah from saving all of humanity, or something.

McConnell is also blamed – and rightly so – by the organized Left for the Citizens United decision, and before that, for the gutting of the original McCain-Feingold bill. You know how important it is to them to cut off conservative fundraising and independent expenditures. McConnell has been virtually a one-man army against the liberal efforts to restrict campaign giving and soedning.

Other Democrats want to beat McConnell as a sort of payback for Republicans taking out Tom Daschle when he was Senate Majority leader.

He is their #1 target in this cycle, and it isn’t even close.

As for his Majority Leader position, this is an ELECTED position in the Republican Caucus. If you have a Republican Senator, you should be writing and calling him to tell him to eother run against McConnell himself, or vote for someone else.

If the conservative grassroots is still as big as it claims to be, it should be easy for them to organize a campaign to elect someone more to their liking as Majority Leader. McConnell is no Tom DeLay, he does not have a hammer and cannot claim credit for the election of many other Republicans. Hell, Rand Paul doesn’t even owe him from his own state.

rockmom on January 17, 2014 at 3:45 PM

In the good old days, saying something like this would get you punched in the nose.

Ward Cleaver on January 17, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Will the Democrat candidate denounce and repudiate this idiot and his statement, or will she de facto embrace them?

RhymesWithRight on January 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM

Geeze. You would think he could at least spell his last name right if he was running for public office.

NoPain on January 18, 2014 at 11:31 PM