Environmentalist groups to White House: Your “all of the above” energy plan is a bunch of bunkum

posted at 1:21 pm on January 17, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

There are any number of reasons to find fault with the Obama administration’s so-called “all of the above” energy agenda, including that it doesn’t quite do enough to allow the United States to take full advantage of the shale oil-and-gas revolution, is slowly but surely attempting to choke coal completely out of the energy mix, and diverts too many taxpayer resources to politically preferred technologies that have yet to become cost-effective, practical substitutes.

Funnily enough, I would generally agree with these eco-radicals’ sentiment that the policy is little more than the White House’s weaksauce attempt to have their cake and eat it too, but of course, these groups’ complaints are all running in the opposite direction: That the Obama administration is not doing nearly enough to forcibly restrict the activities of the fossil fuel industry whilst promoting a more fully “renewable” agenda. Via the Washington Post:

A group of the nation’s leading environmental organizations is breaking with the administration over its energy policy…

The rift — reflected in a letter sent to President Obama by 18 groups, including the Sierra Club, the Environmental Defense Fund and Earthjustice — signals that the administration is under pressure to confront the fossil-fuel industry or risk losing support from a critical part of its political base during an already difficult election year.

“You can’t have it both ways,” Sierra Club Executive Director Michael Brune said in an interview. …

“We believe that continued reliance on an ‘all of the above’ energy strategy would be fundamentally at odds with your goal of cutting carbon pollution and would undermine our nation’s capacity to respond to the threat of climate disruption,” the environmentalists wrote in a letter obtained by The Washington Post. “With record-high atmospheric carbon concentrations and the rising threat of extreme heat, drought, wildfires and super storms, America’s energy policies must reduce our dependence on fossil fuels, not simply reduce our dependence on foreign oil.”

The administration, these groups contend, should really start applying a much stricter climate-change centric test “to all decisions regarding new fossil fuel development,” including the Keystone XL pipeline, hydraulic fracturing, offshore drilling, and etcetera, and they are not being shy about publicizing their newfound willingness to really get super-duper tough on the White House:

The White House, for their part, isn’t completely brain-dead; they’re pretty well aware of where much of what recent job creation, economic growth, and trade balancing we have had is largely coming from, but they know they’re going to have to keep walking this tightrope between well-monied environmentalist groups and the well-monied oil and gas industry:

Dan Utech, special assistant to the president for energy and climate change, said in an interview that the administration is “taking a number of steps under the climate action plan to drive down emissions of carbon and other greenhouse gases.”

“At the same time, obviously we’re going to keep using oil and gas for some period of time,” Utech said. “It’s better to produce these things here than import them. They go together, and they’re not really at odds.”

That several European countries are currently undergoing crises of skyrocketing energy prices and ergo a resurgence of that most ghastly of energy sources, coal, all due to the very same all-or-nothing policies that these apparently depraved “green” groups are now single-mindedly promoting, does not seem to faze them.


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Drill, baby, drill…

OmahaConservative on January 17, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Environmentalist groups to White House: Your “all of the above” energy plan is a bunch of bunkum

Since everything the administration says is bunkum, then that should be obvious, right?

Kafir on January 17, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Mr. Obama ran on the “all of the above” platform and to change it now would be to add to the pile of broken promises. Would he really want to do that?

A.S.R. on January 17, 2014 at 1:27 PM

What the left wing low IQ morons cannot get in their tiny brains is that Oil & Gas are the most efficient source of energy we have and that our technologies and engineering knowledge would not come up with a more efficient source of energy for decades if not a century to come…

Energy Efficiency = Energy Output/ Cost… The higher the output and the lower the cost then the more efficient is the energy source… Nothing can compete with Oil and Gas when it comes to efficiency… Certainly not wind power or solar power which have much less energy output and are much more costly i.e. much less efficient…

mnjg on January 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Withhold political and monetary support for the Dems then Sierra. I dare you.

thebrokenrattle on January 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Bunkum or hokum?

Lanceman on January 17, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Climate Groups can go Frack Off……

redguy on January 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Withhold political and monetary support for the Dems then Sierra. I dare you.

thebrokenrattle on January 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Go ahead, the energy sector will throw billions to conservatives……

Now go run along and play with your windmills……

redguy on January 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM

I like the pro-energy futurist blog NextBigFuture. And when climate change related posts come up you can tell that the blogger, Brian Wang, doesn’t believe the warmist bs (and those of us here that are so inclined could help out with our [disquis] comments in the rhetorical fight against the communist advocating warmists!). Yesterday Wang has a post titled Al Gore does not think climate change is urgent enough to need any experiments at geoengineering or to build nuclear power: http://nextbigfuture.com/2014/01/al-gore-does-not-think-climate-change.html

An excerpt from the NextBigFuture post:

Al Gore says climate change could wreck the world by 2100. However, he does not want to use any geoengineering because we can only put pollution from coal, oil, natural gas and industry into the air. We are not allowed to attempt to put anything else that might counter act those effects. The problem is not urgent enough for him to support building nuclear power. He only supported nuclear power when he represented Tennessee or in the VP position.
It is a big enough problem for him to make movies and books about it, but not a big enough problem for him to want any other solutions than clean tech and solar and wind power. We are safe to wait for those solutions.
We can spend tens of trillions and decades to build those solutions out. We can only speed up those solutions by giving tens of trillions more to companies that he supports and approves.

anotherJoe on January 17, 2014 at 1:34 PM

they’re going to have to keep walking this tightrope between well-monied environmentalist groups and the well-monied oil and gas industry.

…and the public who strongly support more drilling and oppose the eco-Marxist agenda of expensive, vanity appealing, boutique energy sources that drive up the cost of…everything and kills jobs.

The GOP would do well to develop and talk about a robust energy strategy.

Charlemagne on January 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM

mnjg on January 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Not a lot of STEM graduates in the environmental movement. Like most Leftist orgs it’s populated by emo types.

Charlemagne on January 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I went all in on green, renewable energy over the holidays…

…split 1 1/2 cords of wood. ;)

MichaelGabriel on January 17, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Too bad we can’t round up the eco-freaks and drop them all into the middle of the Amazon Rain Forest.

I’m sure they’ll be happy there, “communing with nature”, close up and personal.

GarandFan on January 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Why are they so adamant about redistributing wealth but not carbon? It’s the building block of life.

el hombre on January 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

I went all in on green, renewable energy over the holidays…

…split 1 1/2 cords of wood. ;)

MichaelGabriel on January 17, 2014 at 1:42 PM

And I bet that you now feel entitled to burn it. Well, just how many polar bears are going have to drown due to global warming before you give up your addiction to heat in the winter!

Happy Nomad on January 17, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Why are they so adamant about redistributing wealth but not carbon? It’s the building block of life.

el hombre on January 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

I thought the building block of life was really good scotch.

Happy Nomad on January 17, 2014 at 1:56 PM

The White House, for their part, isn’t completely brain-dead;

I beg to differ..

Rio Linda Refugee on January 17, 2014 at 1:57 PM

In his heart, Obama would love to stand tall with the environmental groups — and odds are, once he leaves the White House, he’ll harangue any future president’s attempts to do anything to push the U.S. towards energy independence via fossil fuels or nuclear power. But as of now, he (or his economic advisers) know if Obama went full-bore on the environmentalists’ side, they would crater what little economic recovery the country has right now, costing the Democrats not only the 2014 midterms for sure but also likely doing them in for 2016.

So we’re left with an energy policy that does just enough to keep the economy on life supports, but refuses to stand up to those trying to hamstring it because they believe the energy fairies will power their big screen TVs, electric cars, iPhones and iPads.

jon1979 on January 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM

An “All of the Above” energy plan would include nuclear and hydroelectric. Since The One’s plan and the deep-ecos’ plans are both unalterably opposed to both, “All of the Above” are liars.

Since both lots dream of turning out the lights and abolishing Western Civilization, I don’t see what they’re arguing about. Perhaps how long they want to take to exterminate most of the human race?

clear ether

eon

eon on January 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM

And I bet that you now feel entitled to burn it. Well, just how many polar bears are going have to drown due to global warming before you give up your addiction to heat in the winter!

Happy Nomad on January 17, 2014 at 1:56 PM

I did feel guilty about exhaling all that CO2 while doing it.

Next time I’ll hold my breath.

MichaelGabriel on January 17, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Energy Efficiency = Energy Output/ Cost…

mnjg on January 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Wait… math?! How can you bring up math at a time like this?! We’re trying to save the planet here and you’re talking about math!!!

/radical eco-feminist deconstructive poetry major. With bad breath.

ZenDraken on January 17, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Why people who bleat about global warming/climate change/climate disruption (that’s new) aren’t roundly ridiculed by everyone within earshot, I’m not entirely sure.

But then, my hope and faith in a civilized, intelligent humanity is fairly well extinguished at this point, anyway.

Midas on January 17, 2014 at 2:19 PM

The problem with conservatives and Republicans is that they don’t realize that the hundreds of millions of dollars of government money that has gone into solar, wind, geothermal, cellulose ethanol, switch grass ethanol, and other renewable, self-sustaining energy development projects, has created millions upon millions of jobs for Americans that cannot be shipped overseas, just as President Obama promised over and over in his five years of pre-election and post-election campaigning, and he fulfilled those promises, period.

stefano1 on January 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Allow me to apologize to all the “Environmentalist” for Fred Flintstone inventing the wheel !

roflmmfao

donabernathy on January 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM

The problem with conservatives and Republicans is that they don’t realize that the hundreds of millions of dollars of government money that has gone into solar, wind, geothermal, cellulose ethanol, switch grass ethanol, and other renewable, self-sustaining energy development projects, has created millions upon millions of jobs for Americans that cannot be shipped overseas, just as President Obama promised over and over in his five years of pre-election and post-election campaigning, and he fulfilled those promises, period.

stefano1 on January 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM

The problem with greenies is that they don’t realize that the government doesn’t have any money that it doesn’t first confiscate from hard working Americans.

Rio Linda Refugee on January 17, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Screw these environment groups!!! They want to live in the stone age go ahead! I don’t. Bring on all the coal and oil we grabfrom America’s natural resources. It provides jobs and gives energy to the country!! Ya idiots…these resources I provides JOBS!

karlinsync on January 17, 2014 at 4:20 PM

The problem with conservatives and Republicans is that they don’t realize that the hundreds of millions of dollars of government money that has gone into solar, wind, geothermal, cellulose ethanol, switch grass ethanol, and other renewable, self-sustaining energy development projects, has created millions upon millions of jobs for Americans that cannot be shipped overseas, just as President Obama promised over and over in his five years of pre-election and post-election campaigning, and he fulfilled those promises, period.

stefano1 on January 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Huh?

Show me the proof of that. Cellulosic/switch grass ethanol is one in the same. It doesn’t work. Liquidating one of those plants right now. The reformer furnace burned up. Kinda difficult to burn up HP grade nickel alloy tubes too. It takes above 1800 Deg F to do that. It couldn’t even make a poor grade of methanol.

Kermit on January 17, 2014 at 4:23 PM

BTW, a “small” private chemical/polymers manufacturer client of mine has developed a new plasticizer (PVC is a plasticizer) which is made 100% out of renewable resources and price/performance competitive with others.

They’ve performed all of the required testing for EPA to give approval and passed with flying colors. 3.5 years and the file is still sitting in the EPA awaiting approval. Under Bush or any previous president’s EPA it would have taken 90 days.

Kermit on January 17, 2014 at 5:28 PM

So when the environment becomes pristine and nice nice, all of a sudden we get all that smog from China and India. Now what will the environtards going to do about that? Sue them in the UN? HA!

timberline on January 17, 2014 at 6:24 PM

…Oh oh!

KOOLAID2 on January 17, 2014 at 10:19 PM

I’m glad that the switchgrass thing didn’t work out too well. They tried to get some of the farmers in MT to grow switchgrass instead of wheat. The farmers didn’t buy into it or else no one wanted to invest in this newest green energy scam. Why do they always want to attack our food sources to save the planet?

Kissmygrits on January 18, 2014 at 9:38 AM