Mitch McConnell’s tea-party opponent: “Not even to the slightest degree am I a proponent of shutting down the government”

posted at 4:01 pm on January 16, 2014 by Allahpundit

Noteworthy, partly because McConnell’s the biggest primary target for grassroots conservatives this year and partly because it’s RINOs who are supposed to categorically reject shutdowns, not tea partiers. Is Bevin categorically rejecting them, though? No, not really. What he’s saying is … actually, after watching the clip twice and reading his interview with Jonathan Strong twice, I’m not sure. He says the October shutdown was “so irresponsible” because the GOP never prepared the public for it with a sustained anti-ObamaCare messaging campaign beforehand. But he also says “not even to the slightest degree am I a proponent of shutting down the government.” That sounds categorical, but maybe he’s just making the same rhetorical move Cruz and Lee did in October, insisting that they didn’t want a shutdown but were prepared to tolerate one if Democrats didn’t meet their demands on “defund.” On that reading, I guess, so long as you’re giving the other side a policy alternative to a shutdown, then you’re not really a “proponent.” Hope Democrats don’t try that next year with the GOP in the Senate, insisting that they’ll refuse to fund the government unless we agree to liberal agenda items X, Y, and Z.

Bevin also applauds Cruz and Lee for taking a principled stand but holds up Reagan and Tip O’Neill as a model of bipartisan compromise to move the country forward. Isn’t the big problem with Mitch McConnell supposedly that he’s too willing to compromise? No, Bevin told Strong; there’s a difference between compromise and capitulation, where you surrender your principles.

Reagan and O’Neill both understood they needed to “focus on what is in the best interest of the country, and of the people, and not specifically what my ideology or party are telling me to do,” he said. “Now in reality — and now I’m just being partisan here, but I’m telling you — when people focus on reality, and pragmatism, and when they focus on what is in the best interest of the country, they do move towards conservative thinking. I’m biased, but I’m telling you. That’s how Reagan got it done, because O’Neill was smart enough to appreciate that Reagan was right. And he wasn’t such a stubborn zealot that he wouldn’t compromise on that.

I’m … pretty sure O’Neill didn’t think Reagan was right. The point of what Bevin’s saying, I guess, is that any deal that leads to a conservative-on-balance outcome is a legit compromise whereas any deal that leads to a liberal-on-balance one is a capitulation. What about McConnell’s deal with Reid to end the shutdown, though? That seems liberal-on-balance because the GOP emerged with next to nothing from it; the whole point from the Republican perspective was simply to stop the bleeding in the polls. Presumably, though, Bevin would have supported the deal since he thinks (and I agree) that the shutdown was a foolish idea in the first place. I don’t know.

Alternate theory: Bevin understands that he’s got to walk a tightrope right now by simultaneously convincing the tea partiers whose votes he needs that he’s a major conservative improvement over McConnell and convincing the rest of the electorate that he’s not going to turn off the tap of federal dollars with a new shutdown if they send him to the Senate. Kentucky’s a red state, but it’s not so red that an unknown Republican couldn’t be bumped off in the general election by a well-supplied Democrat like Alison Lundergan Grimes. So he’s going to give both sides what they need to hear, even if he knots himself up a bit in the telling. He’ll stand on principle with Ted Cruz and Rand Paul, unlike Mitch McConnell; he also won’t do anything drastic like voting to send the government home for two weeks. It’s a rational strategy even if it’s not always perfectly square: After all, chances are high that if you’re open to Bevin, it’s less because of what he’s said on the stump than because you really, really dislike McConnell. All Bevin needs to do, in the primary at least, is give people a reason to think he’ll be better. For tea partiers, when it comes to McConnell, that’s a low bar.


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DEFUND. DEFUND. DEFUND. No quotes.

cdog0613 on January 16, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Welp that was quick.

Next in line?

Defenestratus on January 16, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Pro-illegal alien amnesty Mitch McConnell needs to go!

I support Bevin.

bluegill on January 16, 2014 at 4:03 PM

:)

Schadenfreude on January 16, 2014 at 4:04 PM

This Mitch McConnell

Schadenfreude on January 16, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Welp that was quick.

Next in line?

Defenestratus on January 16, 2014 at 4:03 PM

I’m afraid you’re going to get that from all these “Tea-party” candidates. The answer is not in such candidates.

rickv404 on January 16, 2014 at 4:06 PM

No one wants a shutdown for the sake of one(although I’d argue it’s not necessarily a bad thing when Congress does nothing). But it has to be an option on the table. As long as Bevin supports that, I’m fine with what he’s saying here.

It’s the Republicans in the leadership like Boehner, McConnell, and Cantor who publicly announce they won’t allow a shutdown or the government hitting the debt ceiling who leave themselves with no hand to play against Obama and Reid. That’s what I object to.

Doughboy on January 16, 2014 at 4:08 PM

In the old days, this might have been a disaster for Teller. He had lost his job and landed on the wrong side of the party leadership. Anyone who picked up Teller would be spitting in the eye of the Establishment. But this week, Sen. Ted Cruz announced he had hired Teller as deputy chief of staff.

The Establishment no longer has the power it once had to demand obedience.

“Sit, doggie, sit, you TEA party rube, you” — Mitch McConnell

Schadenfreude on January 16, 2014 at 4:09 PM

It’s said that half the job is showing up.

If Weasel Boehner and Turtle McConnell gave the impression they actually showed up for work (in more ways than riding the limo) the only opposition they’d have to worry about was Dimocrats.

viking01 on January 16, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Poor fella missed the 800lb gorilla in the room. Shutting down the government was a negotiation tactic. It was bout forcing compromise. And, don’t forget, it was the other side that actually did it be refusing to negotiate or compromise.

stvnscott on January 16, 2014 at 4:10 PM

The partial slowdown was only noted by the media thugs and the leeches on the dole.

Thank God for the wonderful pictures with the ‘gates’ at the WWII memorial and Pelosi marching with the illegals, during the slowdown…it would have been such a missed opportunity for the perfect ads.

Schadenfreude on January 16, 2014 at 4:11 PM

:)

Schadenfreude on January 16, 2014 at 4:04 PM


Nice link you’ve got there.
:)

McConnell is a dedicated GOPe politician – this seems like a reasonable fellow unlikely to make any reckless statements that would turn off independents …

… if you don’t want “immigration reform” and additional caves to the LIBERAL agenda, it would be wise to support his candidacy.

PolAgnostic on January 16, 2014 at 4:13 PM

what’s so bad about a shutdown? it’s not like the shutdown did any major damage to the country. it was mostly theater.

Sachiko on January 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Mitch McConnell will team up with Democrats to try to pass mass illegal alien amnesty:
http://www.redstate.com/2013/06/04/mitch-mcconnell-goes-all-in-for-reidschumer-amnesty/

DUMP MCCONNELL NOW!

bluegill on January 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Long story short: Bevan is a weasel who really doesn’t have the staunch principles TruCons require before they pledge their so, so superior allegiance.

McConnell has more pluses than minuses, unless you’re a rightwinger who basically is never happy with any politician. Because politicians, by necessity, have to be willing to give and take.

As Bevan has apparently discovered.

Meanwhile, Harry Reid has almost single-handedly brought the Senate to a standstill, and refuses to take up 150 bills passed by the House, including lots of jobs bills. Thanks, conservatives. That Sharron Angle was really something, wasn’t she?

The rightwing base may be well-intentioned, by they doesn’t understand politics. If they want the “respect” of the so-called Party establishment, they need to decide to live in the real world and accept what is and is not possible.

Meredith on January 16, 2014 at 4:15 PM

I vote tightrope

Anything he says now is going to be put through the wringer by the RINOs. The DEMs will sit back and hope the RINO brigade will destroy Bevin’s credibility if they cannot take him out in the primary

Whoever Bevin is, he will not have the seniority or connections of McConnell, which makes him a better choice

If McConnell wins this one, he will be RINO unleashed, because it would likely be his last term, and he would listen to no one but the elites

Rove must be writing anti Bevin copy right now, just in case it is needed in the general election

entagor on January 16, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Kabuki theater? GOP running a ringer?

Skywise on January 16, 2014 at 4:17 PM

The partial slowdown was only noted by the media thugs and the leeches on the dole. And candy-ass RINO pundits.

DanMan on January 16, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Compromise gets you more taxes.

OldEnglish on January 16, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Poor fella missed the 800lb gorilla in the room. Shutting down the government was a negotiation tactic. It was bout forcing compromise. And, don’t forget, it was the other side that actually did it be refusing to negotiate or compromise.

stvnscott on January 16, 2014 at 4:10 PM

exactly. it irritates me so much when people say “ted cruz shut down the government.” …as if ted cruz can snap his fingers and instantly shut down the government. the government was shut down because two sides did not agree. if EITHER SIDE had agreed with the other, there wouldn’t have been a shutdown. so ted cruz is only partially responsible.

anyway, for the record, i think he did a great thing!

Sachiko on January 16, 2014 at 4:20 PM

I consider myself a tea-partier….but going after McConnell is just plain stupid……uggg….

Redstone357 on January 16, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Meredith on January 16, 2014 at 4:15 PM

here’s some news sweetie, we don’t want the respect of the party establishment, we want to be rid of them

DanMan on January 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Hope Democrats don’t try that next year with the GOP in the Senate, insisting that they’ll refuse to fund the government unless we agree to liberal agenda items X, Y, and Z.

Like they *have* been doing, you mean?

Midas on January 16, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Seems like we would be going from the frying pan into the fire with this Bevan guy. Why does the Tea Party suck so bad when it comes to nominating someone for office? Christine O’Donnell anyone? Can’t we find another to run against Boehner and McConnell?

neyney on January 16, 2014 at 4:29 PM

McConnell has more pluses than minuses, unless you’re a rightwinger who basically is never happy with any politician. Because politicians, by necessity, have to be willing to give and take.

As Bevan has apparently discovered.

Meanwhile, Harry Reid has almost single-handedly brought the Senate to a standstill, and refuses to take up 150 bills passed by the House, including lots of jobs bills. Thanks, conservatives. That Sharron Angle was really something, wasn’t she?

Meredith on January 16, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Compare and contrast the two emboldened segments.

But… it’s the fault of ‘conservatives’, naturally.

GFY

Midas on January 16, 2014 at 4:30 PM

SHUT.IT.DOWN!

jawkneemusic on January 16, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Seems like we would be going from the frying pan into the fire with this Bevan guy. Why does the Tea Party suck so bad when it comes to nominating someone for office? Christine O’Donnell anyone? Can’t we find another to run against Boehner and McConnell?

neyney on January 16, 2014 at 4:29 PM

As far as I’m aware, there is no “Tea Party”, and ‘they’ do not have an organization that nominates candidates for office.

What cabal of folks is it that you imagine sat around and decided Bevin (or any other ‘tea party’ candidate, for that matter) was ‘the guy’?

Midas on January 16, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Hope Democrats don’t try that next year with the GOP in the Senate, insisting that they’ll refuse to fund the government unless we agree to liberal agenda items X, Y, and Z.

Why not? Will the world spin off its axis if that happened? We can’t survive a government shutdown? Worked out pretty well in ’95. (This last one doesn’t count because very little of the government was ever shut down.)

Besides, Dems love government too much (and they’ve gotta pay off the moochers) to ever want to fail to fund the beast. That threat would never happen.

Bitter Clinger on January 16, 2014 at 4:33 PM

This is smart politics to not give the GOPe or democrats something to attack him on. I’m more impressed with Bevin now than I was before. I noticed a few concern trolls which is exactly the type of response AP was looking for. Bevin reminds me of Ted Cruz during the immigration reform debate in the Senate. Cruz was against the bill, but didn’t give Democrats any anti-immigrant sound bites.

Wigglesworth on January 16, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Seems reasonable.

portlandon on January 16, 2014 at 4:35 PM

I noticed a few concern trolls which is exactly the type of response AP was looking for.

I’m not looking for anything. I explained right in the post that this is the sensible position for him to take, kinda sorta pro-shutdown for tea partiers and kinda sorta against for the rest of the electorate. He’s got to walk a line.

Allahpundit on January 16, 2014 at 4:37 PM

LOL. The concern trolls are desperate. Comparing Bevin’s measured response to Christine O’Donnell? WTF are you idiots smoking?

Wigglesworth on January 16, 2014 at 4:38 PM

I’m not looking for anything. I explained right in the post that this is the sensible position for him to take, kinda sorta pro-shutdown for tea partiers and kinda sorta against for the rest of the electorate. He’s got to walk a line.

Allahpundit on January 16, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Yeah, seemed reasonable. Didn’t come across as ‘looking for’ any particular kind of response (to me). *shrug*

Concern trolls gotta be concerned, I guess – no prompting needed. lol

Midas on January 16, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Fair enough AP. I was hoping for more of a compliment like “This is smart politics”.

Wigglesworth on January 16, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Christine O’Donnell anyone?

get some new material, one of our solid posters provided the tactic of Cornyn and the gang announcing no support for her a couple of hours before her acceptance speech after she won the primary against that stalwart Mike Castle.

And who did Rove bring across the finish line? No one unless you count Ayotte who changed her stripes two days after she won.

DanMan on January 16, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Dude’s better looking than McConnell. What more does the woman, women, womyn, and gaymen vote need?

Jeddite on January 16, 2014 at 4:45 PM

208 CEO’s endorse calls for AMNESTY, demand visas for ‘Lower skilled- workers’

This is what we should be concerned about and if it takes a government shutdown to get people to understand that CEO’s who once exported American jobs to China and India for cheap labor are now trying to bring that cheap labor to replace American workers here at home then I say shut it down.

I’m looking for politicians who are willing to stand up before the American people and pledge to stop the importation of labor to take jobs that should be filled with American workers. Politicians who are willing to say no to corporate America and insist that Americans have a right to work in their own nation.

CEO’s have decided that the foreign labor gravy train isn’t over as long as they can force American workers into early retirement, lay them off, or refuse to hire them in the first place. Why hire an American, they figure, and pay those taxes and benefits when we can hire foreign labor and pay far less?

Wonder why there are so many unemployed Americans? Look to these CEO’s for your answers.

thatsafactjack on January 16, 2014 at 4:47 PM

LOL. The concern trolls are desperate. Comparing Bevin’s measured response to Christine O’Donnell? WTF are you idiots smoking?

Wigglesworth on January 16, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Bevin’s responses really should terrify the McConnell camp, and the GOPe establishment. They can’t portray him as a so-called “extremist.”

Myron Falwell on January 16, 2014 at 4:49 PM

McConnell is a Lundergan. No less a liar, that she would in fact admit her corrupt fascist intentions, McConnell may be the more effimate of the two. Consider that hair split. Sorry.
Bevin is it for KY. I understand the tight rope with these scabs on both sides but he’s been talk’n tough conservative. He better walk it, and reread the federalist papers.

onomo on January 16, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Why again is the Tea Party running a primary candidate against McConnell?

chicken thief on January 16, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Myron Falwell on January 16, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Exactly!

Wigglesworth on January 16, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Why again is the Tea Party running a primary candidate against McConnell?

chicken thief on January 16, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Because.

Myron Falwell on January 16, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Heads UP:

Cruz is on the Floor Live:

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/

canopfor on January 16, 2014 at 4:56 PM

If the Founders were alive today, what percentage of our current leaders do you think they would summarily hang in the town square? I’m guessing about 95%.

SirGawain on January 16, 2014 at 4:57 PM

thatsafactjack on January 16, 2014 at 4:47 PM

sure would like to know who the other 207 CEOs are.

DanMan on January 16, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Have the Republicans ever shut down the government? It has been the Democrats shutting it down every time I can remember.

There really isn’t any reason for Republicans to shut down the government. If they have the House, they can pick and choose what they want to pay for. If they have the presidency, they can veto spending. It is the Democrats who shut it down every time for only one purpose: As a tantrum for getting everything they want or they’ll cause fear and harm by ensuring nothing can get done.

Buddahpundit on January 16, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Compare and contrast the two emboldened segments.

But… it’s the fault of ‘conservatives’, naturally.

GFY

Midas on January 16, 2014 at 4:30 PM

By “give” Meredith means:

1. To the GOPe, and

2. To Harry

Plus, Meredith, keep insulting the TEA party and Cs, and good luck.

Schadenfreude on January 16, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Why again is the Tea Party running a primary candidate against McConnell?
chicken thief on January 16, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Why shouldn’t voters have a choice between pro-illegal alien amnesty Mitch McConnell on one hand and Bevin on the other?

All Republican supporters of amnesty must be voted out.

Establishment traitors like McConnell are willing to throw away the country in order to give big business more cheap labor and Democrats more voters. Mass illegal alien amnesty would eventually make it impossible to elect a conservative president. If you envy the situation California is in and want to see the rest of the country become like that state, then support pro-amnesty politicians like McConnell. Amnesty is not “just another issue” but is THE ISSUE. It would dramatically alter the electorate, and not for the better, making it harder for conservatives to win on all other issues.

We have immigration laws for a reason, and we ought to be enforcing them.

bluegill on January 16, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Bevin would be a stronger candidate against Grimes.

bluegill on January 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM

The more I watch videos of Matt Bevin speaking (like the video above), the more impressed I become!

Here is a link to Matt Bevin’s campaign website, for those who want to learn more about Matt Bevin:
https://mattbevin.com/

Clean the House and the Senate in 2014!

wren on January 16, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Bevin also applauds Cruz and Lee for taking a principled stand but holds up Reagan and Tip O’Neill as a model of bipartisan compromise to move the country forward.

Ah yes, the “bipartisan compromise” where Reagan’s policies doubled revenues to the US Treasury and the Democrats tripled spending.

No Thanks!

RJL on January 16, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Meanwhile, Harry Reid has almost single-handedly brought the Senate to a standstill, and refuses to take up 150 bills passed by the House, including lots of jobs bills. Thanks, conservatives. That Sharron Angle was really something, wasn’t she?

Meredith on January 16, 2014 at 4:15 PM

If the GOPe had gotten behind Angle instead of picking up their marbles and going home, Harry Reid would be hanging out in a Nevada whorehouse somewhere instead of wreaking havoc on the Senate. Thanks, Karl Rove and the GOPe!

Kafir on January 16, 2014 at 5:37 PM

I vote tightrope

Anything he says now is going to be put through the wringer by the RINOs. The DEMs will sit back and hope the RINO brigade will destroy Bevin’s credibility if they cannot take him out in the primary

Whoever Bevin is, he will not have the seniority or connections of McConnell, which makes him a better choice

If McConnell wins this one, he will be RINO unleashed, because it would likely be his last term, and he would listen to no one but the elites

Rove must be writing anti Bevin copy right now, just in case it is needed in the general election

entagor on January 16, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Concur. Bevan is safer than mitch because Bevan won’t be in leadership.

Send in enough newbies and they get to tilt the leadership towards a more conservative bent. The in-the-middle incumbents will be scared rightwards if only to save their jobs.

AH_C on January 16, 2014 at 5:40 PM

I don’t care if the guy is a werewolf. McConnell must go. It’s both important in and of itself and as a statement to the Establishment.

rrpjr on January 16, 2014 at 5:42 PM

The Guy is no different from Mitch…. of course if elections made a difference they would make them illegal.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on January 16, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Why again is the Tea Party running a primary candidate against McConnell?

chicken thief on January 16, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Hmmm…. I can think of a few…

1. McConnell supported Medicare Part D – an expansion of Medicare when Medicare at the time (and still is) unsustainable.
2. McConnell supported amnesty 3 different times.
3. McConnell supported No Child Left Behind, a Ted Kennedy written bill that expanded the size of the Dept of Ed three-fold.
4. McConnell is a poor public speaker. We need people in congress who can make the case persuasively for conservatism.
5. McConnell has been in government for FIFTY years.

dforston on January 16, 2014 at 5:46 PM

It is not news to say that one is not a proponent of shutting down the government. That is a straw men used by people to get the other side to capitulate.

A Democrat holding on to what he wants and allowing government to shut down? A principled crusader fighting for the people.

A Republican holding on to what he wants and allowing government to shut down? A proponent of government shutdown.

This assumption is even made by the supposedly conservative pundits at HA. Simply amazing.

Idiocracy is here.

besser tot als rot on January 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Meanwhile, Harry Reid has almost single-handedly brought the Senate to a standstill, and refuses to take up 150 bills passed by the House, including lots of jobs bills. Thanks, conservatives. That Sharron Angle was really something, wasn’t she?

The rightwing base may be well-intentioned, by they doesn’t understand politics. If they want the “respect” of the so-called Party establishment, they need to decide to live in the real world and accept what is and is not possible.

Meredith on January 16, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Are you really that butthurt stupid? Reid barely won reelection with the help of 19% republicans. If he had lost to a salamander, along with just a few other contested seats – Buck, COD, et al, majority control would have shifted to the GOP. Do you not think that at least a few GOP house bills would continue to languish if not under Reid? Even with Mitch as majority leader, RINO that he is, at least more bills would be passed up to the WH and daring Oboobie to veto them.

But no, you GOPe purists turned your back on flawed – debatable – TEA Party candidates, because they’re deemed silly/unserious by the MSM. So tell me about the love the ever electable Christie is getting these days?

NO. The problem has never been so-con candidates standing in the election, it is the quisling RINOs that love them some statism, as long as it is Team Red leading the way. If they can’t get their way, then they vote for the statist/crony demoncrat.

AH_C on January 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Why again is the Tea Party running a primary candidate against McConnell?

chicken thief on January 16, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Because he doesn’t represent our interests.

besser tot als rot on January 16, 2014 at 5:51 PM

THAT’S IT!

500 NITRO MAG BWANA, THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE!

WryTrvllr on January 16, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Reid barely won reelection with the help of 19% republicans.

AH_C on January 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Seems to illustrate that it is the statist wing of the GOP who we can thank for giving us Reid, no? If they’d voted for Angle, she could have won, and we’d be Reid-free. Yeah, I know. Simple logic escapes the grand worshipers of the state.

besser tot als rot on January 16, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Bevin’s responses really should terrify the McConnell camp, and the GOPe establishment. They can’t portray him as a so-called “extremist.”

Myron Falwell on January 16, 2014 at 4:49 PM

The extremism was always manufactured anyway. Their allegations against conservatives are the same as Democrat allegations against the GOP: straw men and lies.

besser tot als rot on January 16, 2014 at 5:55 PM

This assumption is even made by the supposedly conservative pundits at HA. Simply amazing.

Idiocracy is here.

besser tot als rot on January 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Yup. Even more obnoxious is how they doggedly continue to carry water for the false meme that we durst not go in to default, in spite of repeated challenges/corrections from the commenters. Makes me sick. They need to strike “conservative” from their motto: America’s Leading GOP Blog.

AH_C on January 16, 2014 at 5:58 PM

This is more of an indictment of the abuse of the TP label than anything. Unfortunately too many people are running around claiming they are TP when they are not what the TP was originally all about.

If my memory is correct the TP formed as a movement based on two fundamental ideas; 1) balance the budget, and 2) follow the Constitution. Anything else or any other concepts were not what the movement was all about.

Tater Salad on January 16, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Alternative theory:

He’s being political, he’s trying to walk the line between the hard right and the rest, and he’s just bs’ing the answer he thinks sounds the best and won’t hurt him.

It’s called, “Opportunism”.

Genuine on January 16, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Seems to illustrate that it is the statist wing of the GOP who we can thank for giving us Reid, no? If they’d voted for Angle, she could have won, and we’d be Reid-free. Yeah, I know. Simple logic escapes the grand worshipers of the state.

besser tot als rot on January 16, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Which means you need some of that 19% to win, no?

WryTrvllr on January 16, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Good answer.

thebrokenrattle on January 16, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Anyone but McConnell!

Jack_Burton on January 16, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Tater Salad on January 16, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Right on. The tea party is not a political party. They don’t ‘run’ anyone. That isn’t their function.

Bevins stated what we all thought. We didn’t want to shut down the government. That was Harry Reid’s idea. The House did their job and Harry didn’t do his. Very odd though in less than 8 weeks Obama was doing what Ted Cruz said he wanted done. All that nonsense for nothing and still the Republicans got blamed. Ted’s still at it. Keep it coming, Ted.

BetseyRoss on January 16, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Which means you need some of that 19% to win, no?

WryTrvllr on January 16, 2014 at 6:02 PM

And that 19% thought Harry Reid was the better option. Why do these people call themselves “Republicans”?

Bitter Clinger on January 16, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Politics is about compromise. I believe in compromise. The problem is compromise is ALWAYS about liberal issues.

We need to compromise on which Federal departments to end. Perry wanted 3 closed, although I don’t remember which 3. But I am very open to only ending 2. The Democrats can choose which 2 to end as long as the department of defense is not one of them. See, compromise is a good thing.

I want to drill in many different areas around the country. ANWR, Florida, Carolina’s, California coasts. I have no problem not doing all 4. Instead I will accept only 2 and allow the democrats to choose which 2. This compromise thing is kind of fun when you are doing it on your issues.

We need more refineries, nuke plants and the Keystone pipeline. I will give you some wind mills, solar panel plants and shut down some coal mines. I think that’s fair.

We need to reduce our 17 trillion dollar debt. We need to go back to 2008 discretionary spending. But I will take half that reduction. Man, compromise is beginning to fix our nations problems real fast.

KMav on January 16, 2014 at 6:16 PM

And that 19% thought Harry Reid was the better option. Why do these people call themselves “Republicans”?

Bitter Clinger on January 16, 2014 at 6:15 PM

irrelevant. they call themselves the electorate.

WryTrvllr on January 16, 2014 at 6:17 PM

and for the record, I donated to Angle

WryTrvllr on January 16, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Cruz has also stated hundreds of times that he’s not in favor of shutting down the government. Where’s the controversy here?

Right Wingnut on January 16, 2014 at 6:25 PM

I have to run. That settles it.

RedNewEnglander on January 16, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Imagine on January 16, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Sounds like compromise to me . Far sight better than McWattle capitulating on every hill and blaming conservatives for putting him in the position of having to do so when he’d rather negotiate the old fashioned way and pick up some pork to bting home. Like the 2 mil for a dam.

AH_C on January 16, 2014 at 6:31 PM

Bevin also applauds Cruz and Lee for taking a principled stand but holds up Reagan and Tip O’Neill as a model of bipartisan compromise to move the country forward.

The government was shut down multiple times during this “model of bipartisan compromise” period, lol.

xblade on January 16, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Strife’s a Mitch and then you primary one…

viking01 on January 16, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Which means you need some of that 19% to win, no?

WryTrvllr on January 16, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Maybe. But it should certainly preclude that 19% from blaming others for Nancy Reid.

besser tot als rot on January 16, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Oh, where to begin. FIrst, the shutdown was not a bad idea, in and of itself. It was a bad idea because they never articulated how important it was to stop this thing before it go to the point it is now. They would have been better off supporting a short term deal, until after the 1st of the year and then shutting it down until the Democrats were ready to deal with Obamacare. The Democrats still aren’t ready to deal with it. They seem to believe that Obama can finesse his way around the problems, without doing a single thing through the legislation process. The Democrats are more afraid of the legislation process than they are of their constituents who are losing their insurance left and right.

Until they have more fear about what happens if they don’t fix the flaws, they will continue to stall, lie and deceive in the hopes they can make it to November. I don’t who elects these people, or who supports these people. They can’t possibly subsidize enough people to have them voting for them in November, can they?

bflat879 on January 16, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Great, I sent this idiot money. Why would I want to elect another McConnell?

Panther on January 16, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Great, I sent this idiot money. Why would I want to elect another McConnell?

Panther on January 16, 2014 at 7:29 PM

He won’t be another McWattles. Mitch if reelected takes Reid’s gavel — assuming the GOP gets majority. Bevan will be just a freshman Senator, at worst he’ll be more apt to be right of center than Mitch. At best, he’ll be part of the Cruz/Lee posse. That’s win-win.

AH_C on January 16, 2014 at 7:52 PM

When I hear the words “Compromise” and “pragmatism” coming from the mouth of a supposed Tea Party….

I hear the dog whistle and it sounds like NO MORE MONEY for you Mr. Bevin.

Buh bye now.

PappyD61 on January 16, 2014 at 9:15 PM

PappyD61 on January 16, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Panther on January 16, 2014 at 7:29 PM

The truest of cons have spoken.

thebrokenrattle on January 16, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Don’t you love the weasels that come on here proclaiming themselves “conservatives” or “tea partiers” only to follow it up with a disclaimer stating they wouldn’t do a damn thing to advance the conservative agenda.They are as responsible as the left for the destruction of America.

redware on January 17, 2014 at 7:44 AM