HHS official: We have no idea how many people have paid their first month’s ObamaCare premium

posted at 5:21 pm on January 16, 2014 by Allahpundit

Of course they don’t, silly. How would they? They haven’t built that part of the site yet.

As of a week ago, Bob Laszewski’s best guess based on his chats with friends in the industry was 50 percent. The feds probably have some inkling of the actual number, not from Healthcare.gov but from trying to reconcile their data on O-Care enrollees with the data various insurers have. The whole point of building the website was to avert the need for that; someone would sign up on Healthcare.gov, they’d make payment through the site, the info and money would be automatically forwarded to the insurer, and the conveyor belt would keep moving. As it is, with glitchy files still being transmitted on the back end, both sides have to compare notes periodically via a laborious reconciliation process to make sure they have the same information. Checking payments is just one facet of that, but a long and important one — as noted in the clip, until the feds know that you’ve ponied up for your premiums, they can’t get things moving for you on subsidies.

Which reminds me: If you read only one story today about enrollees struggling with premiums, skip the stuff about the website and check out what a young Obama fan told TPM about having to pay 300 bucks a month for his new coverage. I’m not sure what the takeaway is — that coverage under the Affordable Care Act ain’t so affordable, that young adults need to make better life choices so that they can afford the essentials, or that New York City is basically unlivable for the middle class. Other TPM readers aren’t sure either. I’m going to go with all three.


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Of course they don’t…

OmahaConservative on January 16, 2014 at 5:23 PM

D’oh!

cmsinaz on January 16, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Can’t they just ask the NSA?

rbj on January 16, 2014 at 5:26 PM

its just the first step

Ugh….delusional

cmsinaz on January 16, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Oh dear, wait until obama reads about this, he is going to be so very, very angry.

HumpBot Salvation on January 16, 2014 at 5:32 PM

If you play the video backwards you can hear him say:

” We’ll have the number for you just as soon as we figure out what it has to be to claim success.”

kcewa on January 16, 2014 at 5:35 PM

both sides have to compare notes periodically via a laborious reconciliation process to make sure they have the same information.

IMHO that was their intention

It is important the data does not reconcile, so it cannot be held against them before the election

This is a planned operation

Timing is everything

They have to have everyone running in circles like chickens with their heads chopped off focusing on the ‘incompetence’ which is being fed out in stages to keep the consternation going.

entagor on January 16, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Not their department….

viking01 on January 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Above their pay grade…

OmahaConservative on January 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM

If HHS says they “don’t know,” it means … Almost nobody.

Since pre-existing isn’t a problem, why not just start paying the premium at the hospital when you check in after you have the accident…and then stop a little later?

Maybe Americans are only stupid at the ballot box.

marybel on January 16, 2014 at 5:46 PM

…but if you give us 15 minutes we can call Utah and find out…..

WryTrvllr on January 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM

I’m sure DNC – Gallup can cook up some numbers for them.

viking01 on January 16, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Ed –
You mean the websites aren’t working perfectly on day one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty twenty-one twenty-two twenty-three twenty-four twenty-five twenty-six twenty-seven twenty-eight twenty-nine thirty thirty-one thirty-two thirty-three thirty-four thirty-five thirty-six thirty-seven thirty-eight thirty-nine forty forty-one forty-two forty-three forty-four forty-five forty-six forty-seven forty-eight forty-nine fifty fifty-one fifty-two fifty-three fifty-four fifty-five fifty-six fifty-seven fifty-eight fifty-nine sixty sixty-one sixty-two sixty-three sixty-four sixty-five sixty-six sixty-seven sixty-eight sixty-nine seventy seventy-one seventy-two seventy-three seventy-four seventy-five seventy-six seventy-seven seventy-eight seventy-nine eighty eighty-one eighty-two eighty-three eighty-four eighty-five eighty-six eighty-seven eighty-eight eighty-nine ninety ninety-one ninety-two ninety-three ninety-four ninety-five ninety-six ninety-seven ninety-eight ninety-nine one hundred one hundred one one hundred two one hundred three one hundred four one hundred five one hundred six one hundred seven one hundred eight
verbaluce on October 1, 2013 at 10:18 AM

(H/T NotCoach)

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 16, 2014 at 5:53 PM

I signed you up, libdie.

Lanceman on January 16, 2014 at 5:54 PM

“I voted for Obama with pride,AND I WOULD AGAIN”

We are screwed blued and tattooed.
With this level of ignorance we may just as well let them have their liberal nirvana.
Might as well cash in my savings for gold, guns , ammo , and food and head for the hills, let the ignorant starve on the Lyin kINgs diet!

ConcealedKerry on January 16, 2014 at 5:56 PM

The IRS knows.

And Obama & co. all lie.

albill on January 16, 2014 at 5:56 PM

“Dude, I was like all into signing up, you know, and then like I find out the website guy wants me to like pay for it and I thought like what a ripoff.”

fogw on January 16, 2014 at 5:59 PM

This is a lie. They know the what number is, and it’s beyond awful. I’ve been saying it for over a month now, but don’t be surprised if the number is only 10% of so called enrollees.

NotCoach on January 16, 2014 at 6:02 PM

We have no idea how many people have paid their first month’s ObamaCare premium

Paid their premiums ?
Isn’t ObamaCAIR free ?

burrata on January 16, 2014 at 6:13 PM

I’m going with no one paying their premiums. The ones that did sign up are thinking it is all free. The ones that want to sign up can’t afford it. And where do you send the money? Pay with a credit card? No freakn’ way! Not on that website. It’s a mess and built to be that way. No doctors, no hospitals, no choice, too expensive and now no access.

BetseyRoss on January 16, 2014 at 6:22 PM

If NY is unlivable for the middle class and we know they are not all upper class, then who are those people in that city? It rhymes with tailor…

HopeHeFails on January 16, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Executive Order #996:

“Dear Leader hereby forbids any of the uninformed proletariat to disparage Holy Mother Government or Sacred ObamaCare.
Loyal citizens are required to denounce any traitors who violate this oh-so-minor, teensy step on the First Amendment.”

He won’t.
But, he would.

orangemtl on January 16, 2014 at 6:50 PM

I signed you up, libdie.

Lanceman on January 16, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Not surprisingly, the website recognized the name.

davidk on January 16, 2014 at 7:26 PM

As far as I can tell the medicaid enrollments are running at 150%+ of actual paying Obama Care suckas. Of the Obama Care suckas 78% are getting subsidies. This sounds like sound fiscal policy for the USA.

This is going to work fantastically or at least it did in the faculty lunch room.

jukin3 on January 16, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Not surprisingly, the website recognized the name.

davidk on January 16, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Funny how he never shows up on the damning threads.

Lanceman on January 16, 2014 at 7:44 PM

I’m sure King Barack the Magnificent is busily reading the newspapers so he can find out. Maybe the NYT’s will write a feature article out of thin air, saying everything is fine.

GarandFan on January 16, 2014 at 8:00 PM

I’m starting to get the impression that Obama SUX as an insurance salesman.

locomotivebreath1901 on January 16, 2014 at 10:41 PM

While we’re watching this theater and the spiffy news on Bridgegate, congress is passing another heavy lift budget of over a $T dollars including funding of Ocare. What I’d like to know is what’s going to happen with that money? We all know someone is going to dip their hands in the till and redistribute some of our dough into their pockets. Now wonder all those dems are retiring to be able to take the K St jobs.

Kissmygrits on January 17, 2014 at 9:01 AM

check out what a young Obama fan told TPM about having to pay 300 bucks a month for his new coverage

…which ends:

I just don’t believe this is the final solution, rather, only the first step.

So much potential here.

“Hey — no Nazi analogies; I thought you said you were a supporter!”

“You’re right. The second step is you pay even more.”

“Oh, so the solution is ‘someone else’ pays, eh? That solution has a problem: Eventually you run out of other people’s money.”

calbear on January 17, 2014 at 10:32 AM