Gates: Reid’s “war is lost” declaration “disgraceful”

posted at 9:21 am on January 15, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

And not just disgraceful, but “one of the most disgraceful things I’ve ever heard a politician say.” Too bad Robert Gates wasn’t around for Harry Reid’s McCarthyesque attack on Mitt Romney by claiming to have inside knowledge that the Republican presidential nominee was a tax cheat. I’d give the edge to the “The war is lost” declaration in 2007, though, for the reasons Gates gives here (via the Washington Free Beacon):

“The troops believed and still believe that they were being successful in their mission,” Gates said. “So I think they were able, to a certain extent, to set aside the politics here at home.”

But, Gates continued, “When you have somebody like the Senate Majority Leader come out in the middle of the surge and say ‘this war is lost’, I thought that was one of the most disgraceful things I’ve heard a politician say.”

“That sends a riveting message to kids who are putting their lives on the line every day that they’re doing it for nothing,” Gates noted, “and that was absolutely not the case.”

It’s one thing to debate strategy, especially when the options involved put more Americans troops on the line for more aggressive operations, which will increase casualties. It’s quite another to spew defeatist rhetoric while outside of the loop, and ill-informed defeatist rhetoric as it turned out. The surge actually worked — while we remained in Iraq — and allowed the US-Iraqi alliance to bring Anbar under control.

The problem with Harry Reid is that he routinely makes a disgrace out of himself, and it’s just so difficult to choose which anecdote is the worst.


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“The troops believed and still believe that they were being successful in their mission,” Gates said.

Jake Tapper…white courtesy phone.

Electrongod on January 15, 2014 at 9:24 AM

In a poll for “scum of the earth” Hairy would be right up there. Sadly, Republicans have not figured out how to marginalize him, or beat him straight up in an election. Given how disgusting and corrupt Hairy is, that speaks awfully poorly of the Nevada GOP.

MTF on January 15, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Thanks, Nevada.

Bitter Clinger on January 15, 2014 at 9:26 AM

The real disgrace is that Reid has paid no price for his disgraceful behavior.

BD57 on January 15, 2014 at 9:28 AM

A little slow on the draw, wouldn’t you say? In the old West, Mr. Gates’ skill set would have relocated him to Boot Hill.

platypus on January 15, 2014 at 9:31 AM

The real disgrace is that Reid has paid no price for his disgraceful behavior.

BD57 on January 15, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Nor, Durbin. The media thinks they’re adorably grumpy or something.

Fallon on January 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Corpse Man really is a douchebag, the man will make pinching a loaf political.

I honestly look forward to the day when someone snaps a pic of ol’ Harry stuck in his wheelchair looking forlorn, a bib around his neck to catch the drool and oxygen feed attached to his face. I hope he lingers in that state for a long, long time.

Bishop on January 15, 2014 at 9:36 AM

Too bad Robert Gates wasn’t around for Harry Reid’s McCarthyesque attack on Mitt Romney by claiming to have inside knowledge that the Republican presidential nominee was a tax cheat.

No, I’d say Harry Reid’s defeatist rhetoric is easily more disgraceful than the Romney charges. The tax cheat accusation is just SOP for politicians, though they usually use surrogates. Unfortunately they both have stiff competition for most disgraceful of all time.

Fenris on January 15, 2014 at 9:36 AM

Slipped on a rug my aunt’s patootie. More like a Dewars slip. It does take a lot to forget writing all those letters. This pathetic little man now wants to make money off of exposing things said in confidence by a president and SS while a war was and is still going on. If he really wanted to help the country and military, he should have released the book before Nov ’12. Why are we still in Afghanistan, Mr. Gates, and fighting under the same ROEs that prevent any real change?

Kissmygrits on January 15, 2014 at 9:36 AM

But, Gates continued, “When you have somebody like the Senate Majority Leader come out in the middle of the surge and say ‘this war is lost’

Reid was right – he knew that the 2006 elections gave the democratic party the power to undermine our war efforts and he was busy doing it.

All to gain total power in 2008 so they could get their hands on the federal budget and plunder it.

kcewa on January 15, 2014 at 9:36 AM

I was present, in uniform, when that slimy SOB stated that. I had to physically restrain a warrant officer. I am still ashamed that i did not let him run free. HR with a broken jaw would have been good for Nevada and America.

oprockwell on January 15, 2014 at 9:38 AM

When it was said Obama had to have loved it…helped his cause, made Bush & Republicans look bad…

A video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyDOAmJYFFA

April 20, 2007,
Senator Reid On Iraq: “This War Is Lost”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/senator-reid-on-iraq-this-war-is-lost/

albill on January 15, 2014 at 9:38 AM

The real disgrace is Gates did not say this at the time. Gates should have loudly and publicly expressed these sentiments at the time. To withhold was also a disgrace.

Aplombed on January 15, 2014 at 9:38 AM

Gates: Reid’s “war is lost” declaration “disgraceful”

WE, conservatives, have been saying that from the day he uttered it. Where have you been Gates?

Oldnuke on January 15, 2014 at 9:39 AM

Harry Reid is a total creep…but then again so is Gates. Gates had an opportunity to tell the truth when it mattered but for his own personal interest, he demurred. Gates is a bad guy..just like Harry Reid. They both should retire and never speak in public again

georgealbert on January 15, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Aplombed on January 15, 2014 at 9:38 AM

Dammit! When seconds count my old arthritic fingers are only minutes away :-)

Oldnuke on January 15, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Ok, great. Thanks. Perhaps Gates can offer commentary on anti-Vietnam statements? Since that’d be so helpful nowadays.

Jeddite on January 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM

I was present, in uniform, when that slimy SOB stated that. I had to physically restrain a warrant officer. I am still ashamed that i did not let him run free. HR with a broken jaw would have been good for Nevada and America.

oprockwell on January 15, 2014 at 9:38 AM

Emotionally satisfying, but a good man would be in jail, and Reid would’ve gotten sympathy votes. I keep wondering, though, if something like that might happen. A president says something treasonous, and someone actually in the security detail goes ballistic.

Fenris on January 15, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Excellent point aplombed

cmsinaz on January 15, 2014 at 9:46 AM

“That sends a riveting message to kids who are putting their lives on the line every day that they’re doing it for nothing,” Gates noted, “and that was absolutely not the case.”

Given that Obama never was committed to neither Iraq (now being re-taken by Al Qaeda) nor Afghanistan (where the plan was to cut and run from the beginning);

It’s hard to see where those lives lost were for a purpose. Their CINC is a filthy coward who doesn’t care about their deaths.

Happy Nomad on January 15, 2014 at 9:50 AM

The real disgrace is Gates did not say this at the time. Gates should have loudly and publicly expressed these sentiments at the time. To withhold was also a disgrace.

Aplombed on January 15, 2014 at 9:38 AM

Yeah, saving up stuff like this for a book instead of doing the right thing is equally disgraceful.

Happy Nomad on January 15, 2014 at 9:52 AM

The real disgrace is that Reid has paid no price for his disgraceful behavior.

BD57 on January 15, 2014 at 9:28 AM

And in fact has used his office to become very wealthy. Something is definitely wrong with our system when that can happen.

mbs on January 15, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Harry Reid is a total creep…but then again so is Gates. Gates had an opportunity to tell the truth when it mattered but for his own personal interest, he demurred. Gates is a bad guy..just like Harry Reid. They both should retire and never speak in public again

georgealbert on January 15, 2014 at 9:41 AM

…I’m wishing the new IRS…will someday put Harry Reid in jail.

KOOLAID2 on January 15, 2014 at 10:00 AM

Too bad Robert Gates wasn’t around for Harry Reid’s McCarthyesque attack on Mitt Romney by claiming to have inside knowledge that the Republican presidential nominee was a tax cheat.

Seriously dude? McCarthy was overwhelmingly correct and history has proved that out – every time a conservative slanders the name of Joseph McCarthy, I’m reminded of how a man like Barack Obama could be elected POTUS. Our country could use a few men like JM back in the Senate – quit smearing his name and his legacy by catering to a leftist narrative, it’s shallow writing and lazy thinking.

King B on January 15, 2014 at 10:01 AM

The real disgrace is that Reid has paid no price for his disgraceful behavior.

BD57 on January 15, 2014 at 9:28 AM

And in fact has used his office to become very wealthy. Something is definitely wrong with our system when that can happen.

mbs on January 15, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Never forget that the Man Upstairs is keeping track. He’ll pay one way or anothter.

Bitter Clinger on January 15, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Troll-Free thread, I reckon.

Of course, had a prominent Rethuglican done this when a Democrat was Commander in Chief, the Democrat Media would instantly call for his or her immediate impeachment.

And let’s not forget the equally disgraceful statement made at about the same time by Hillary Clinton, who called General Petraeus a Liar to his face before he had even uttered a single word of testimony about the Surge.

Her Democrat Party later rewarded her for that statement by making her America’s top “diplomat”.

Del Dolemonte on January 15, 2014 at 10:05 AM

“That sends a riveting message to kids who are putting their lives on the line every day that they’re doing it for nothing,” Gates noted, “and that was absolutely not the case.”

Now you know how the Vietnam Vets felt.

Vince on January 15, 2014 at 10:31 AM

“Oh wow, Gates says that in his book?! I’ma gonna run right out and buy one!”

Akzed on January 15, 2014 at 10:33 AM

successful in their mission

what mission would that be….. killing the big bad bogeyman TERROR…….protecting North Carolina for the al qaeda navy, that hates us for our freedom and is ready to invade at a moments notice…… or is it just winning the war and losing the war are both the same thing…. the contracts dry up and there is no money to be made…… Yep… the war must continue…. kill’n is economic development… don’t cha know

roflmmfao

donabernathy on January 15, 2014 at 10:45 AM

OT…15 people connected to supporting/ assisting the FBI investigation in Benghazi have been killed according to the State Dept. Report.

workingclass artist on January 15, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Democrats in general are disgraceful but Harry is by far the worst.

rplat on January 15, 2014 at 11:15 AM

…real brave of Gates to be forthcoming with these statemnents now, when it no longer matters so much. If he had any courage at all, he would have spoke up as events transpired rather than wait until he could write a tell-all book.

zoyclem on January 15, 2014 at 11:31 AM

The problem with Harry Reid is that he routinely makes a disgrace out of himself, and it’s just so difficult to choose which anecdote is the worst.

Not that difficult. As bad as his general record is, this one is the clear winner.

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 15, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Gates, obama, Reid, are all weasels extraordinaire and traitors to the Military and the Land.

Schadenfreude on January 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

I honestly look forward to the day when someone snaps a pic of ol’ Harry stuck in his wheelchair looking forlorn, a bib around his neck to catch the drool and oxygen feed attached to his face. I hope he lingers in that state for a long, long time.

Bishop on January 15, 2014 at 9:36 AM

In terms of brain functionality (and likely some other parts), he’s there. We just need someone to snap a pic when he’s not propped up at the podium.

de rigueur on January 15, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Yeah, everyone knows Reid is a useless, partisan, Obama-rear-kissing POS.

easyt65 on January 15, 2014 at 1:09 PM

I have no doubt Harry Reid got Americans soldiers and Marines killed for his petty partisan politics.

V7_Sport on January 15, 2014 at 2:25 PM

It’s hard to see where those lives lost were for a purpose. Their CINC is a filthy coward who doesn’t care about their deaths.

Happy Nomad on January 15, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Happy,
I beg to differ it was TOTUS who made a special trip to Dover to use Flag drapped coffins as background for his ‘I care about the troops’ photo-op. Remember?

Missilengr on January 15, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Reid has not only built his own room in hell but an entire wing. He is old as well. Tick tock Harry. Tick….,tock…..

neyney on January 15, 2014 at 3:18 PM

I’ve never forgotten and will never forgive the despicable Reid saying ” the war is lost” while our military men an women were still fighting and dieing on the battlefield.

Most sickening is that he said it to gain a partisan political advantage.

Many other Democrat tools made similar remarks during the Iraq war, Pelosi and Durbin chiefs among them.

To this day, recalling the evil of these people makes my blood boil. They are very scum of the earth.

I’d give a lot for five minutes alone in a locked room with Reid. I guarantee he would exit that room a changed man. And yes, I know he is a former boxer.

novaculus on January 15, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Why his election wasn’t investigated is beyond me. He trailed by 5-6% the entire time and then won by 5-6%. Never once did he show concern during the campaign. Me thinks it was fraud!!!!

rjoco1 on January 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Gates: Reid’s “war is lost” declaration “disgraceful”

Just needed some shoring up.

deptofredundancydept on January 15, 2014 at 6:37 PM