Fox: Administration knew within minutes that Benghazi was a terrorist attack

posted at 8:41 am on January 14, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

To some extent we knew this already — Leon Panetta said so in open testimony, to which I’ll return later — but James Rosen at Fox confirms this understanding at the highest levels of the Obama administration within minutes of the attack. No one seriously thought it was a demonstration that had turned into a riot, despite the spin offered in the days after the attack left four Americans dead. And that leaves a lot of questions as to the lack of response:

Minutes after the American consulate in Benghazi came under assault on Sept. 11, 2012, the nation’s top civilian and uniformed defense officials — headed for a previously scheduled Oval Office session with President Obama — were informed that the event was a “terrorist attack,” declassified documents show. The new evidence raises the question of why the top military men, one of whom was a member of the president’s Cabinet, allowed him and other senior Obama administration officials to press a false narrative of the Benghazi attacks for two weeks afterward.

Gen. Carter Ham, who at the time was head of AFRICOM, the Defense Department combatant command with jurisdiction over Libya, told the House in classified testimony last year that it was him who broke the news about the unfolding situation in Benghazi to then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The tense briefing — in which it was already known that U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens had been targeted and had gone missing — occurred just before the two senior officials departed the Pentagon for their session with the commander in chief.

According to declassified testimony obtained by Fox News, Ham — who was working out of his Pentagon office on the afternoon of Sept. 11 — said he learned about the assault on the consulate compound within 15 minutes of its commencement, at 9:42 p.m. Libya time, through a call he received from the AFRICOM Command Center. …

Rep. Brad Wenstrup, R-Ohio, a first-term lawmaker with experience as an Iraq war veteran and Army reserve officer, pressed Ham further on the point, prodding the 29-year Army veteran to admit that “the nature of the conversation” he had with Panetta and Dempsey was that “this was a terrorist attack.”

The transcript reads as follows:

WENSTRUP: “As a military person, I am concerned that someone in the military would be advising that this was a demonstration. I would hope that our military leadership would be advising that this was a terrorist attack.”

HAM: “Again, sir, I think, you know, there was some preliminary discussion about, you know, maybe there was a demonstration. But I think at the command, I personally and I think the command very quickly got to the point that this was not a demonstration, this was a terrorist attack.”

WENSTRUP: “And you would have advised as such if asked. Would that be correct?”

HAM: “Well, and with General Dempsey and Secretary Panetta, that is the nature of the conversation we had, yes, sir.”

Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee in February of last year that it was him who informed the president that “there was an apparent attack going on in Benghazi.” “Secretary Panetta, do you believe that unequivocally at that time we knew that this was a terrorist attack?” asked Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla. “There was no question in my mind that this was a terrorist attack,” Panetta replied.

Furthermore, the communication from the US military in Libya made clear from the start that this was a an attack, not a riot:

WESTRUP: “So no one from the military was ever advising, that you are aware of, that this was a demonstration gone out of control, it was always considered an attack -”

BRISTOL: “Yes, sir.”

WENSTRUP: “– on the United States?”

BRISTOL: “Yes, sir. … We referred to it as the attack.”

We have already known that Panetta got briefed from the start that this was a terrorist attack, from Panetta’s own lips. Presumably, that’s what he then told Barack Obama. What happened in between to cause them to claim it was a demonstration that got out of control? One charitable possibility is that the State Department or CIA might have claimed otherwise based on faulty intel — it happens, especially in the fog of war — or it could be that someone concocted that story to give them political cover for the lack of preparedness that this event demonstrated.

The Fox report also debunks the rumor that General Carter Ham received a stand-down order that night. As the classified testimony confirms, the American military was completely unprepared to deal with a terrorist attack in the region that night:

This is mind-blowing. This wasn’t just some random night; it occurred on the anniversary of the 9/11 attack. It took place in what Qaddafi’s fall had turned into Terrorist Central in North Africa, in a city where escalating terrorist attacks against Western targets had forced every other Western nation but the US to retreat. As this also states, a visit by Panetta in December 2011, ten months before the attack, led the DoD to offer a Marine unit for security, which State refused.

Both agencies knew that Benghazi was a sitting duck, and yet the State Department did nothing to bolster security and the DoD did nothing to bolster readiness on the anniversary of 9/11. This is sheer incompetence stacked on more incompetence. That’s the scandal.

Addendum: Let’s not forget that whatever Panetta told Obama about the attack, Obama didn’t take enough of an interest to ask for a follow-up from his Secretary of Defense.

Update: In a loosely-related note, Dianne Feinstein isn’t buying what the New York Times is shilling on Benghazi, either:

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) rejected the Times’s conclusion that al Qaeda wasn’t responsible for the attack that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans. She also took issue with the notion that the Libya strike was sparked by a U.S.-made anti-Islam video online.

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“I believe that groups loosely associated with al Qaeda were” involved in the attack, she told The Hill last week. “That’s my understanding.”

She also disputed the notion that the Sept. 11, 2012, assault evolved from a protest against the video, which was widely disseminated by Islamic clerics shortly before the attack.

“It doesn’t jibe with me,” she said.

Given that the US formally accused Abu Sufian bin Qumu of participating in the attack just days after David Kirkpatrick claimed that the US didn’t think he was involved, I’d call the NYT version a bit of a dead letter.


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I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the administration knew before the attack because they were probably involved in the planning of it. Obozo hates America and wants it destroyed. The traitor needs to go.

Flange on January 14, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Shut up everyone. This is a Phony Scandal. Period.

WordsMatter on January 14, 2014 at 8:46 AM

MSM? Crickets.

rrpjr on January 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM

Gomer Pyle just sent this Tweet:

SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!!

ToddPA on January 14, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Administration knew within minutes that Benghazi was a terrorist attack

More importantly, it knew it was really a youtube video’s fault a few days later.

Right NYT?

Gatsu on January 14, 2014 at 8:52 AM

On September 25, 2012, United States President Barack Hussein Obama, appeared before the United Nations General Assembly, to address the circumstances of the massacre. Here are the words he spoke, before representatives of the entire world:

We understand why people take offense to this video because millions of our citizens are among them.

…The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.

The President of the United States and his Administration intentionally lied about the murders of American citizens to further their own Political/Religious Ideology and Political Machinations.

And, for this, both Obama and his Administration, who are supposed to be working for us, need to answer to us for their Dereliction of Duty and the sacrificing of 4 Brave Americans for Political Expediency.

kingsjester on January 14, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Hilary: “What difference at this point does it make…. hmmmmm?”

ExpressoBold on January 14, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Okay. Okay. But more importantly, what was traffic like getting into -and from the attack?

BKeyser on January 14, 2014 at 8:56 AM

Let’s remember a few points about Benghazi.

The “YouTube” spin included Hillary Clinton and Obama lying the next morning followed by a $100K ad campaign and denouncing hateful videos in a UN speech. In short, this wasn’t spinning the truth Obama was lying his ass off for weeks after. No way this is blamed on faulty intelligence.

The consulate was not secured for weeks. It was a journalist, two days after, who recovered Ambassador Stevens journal.

Panetta knew immediately that this was a terror attack. And yet he promised the families of the victims that he would get to the bottom of what happened. He promised them!

They didn’t send a plane large enough to evacuate all the survivors at once. The military was unprepared to the point that some senior officers should be fired.

James Rosen went to the White House presser yesterday to ask about Benghazi so, predictably, Jay Carney ignored him and talked about Chris Christie or Bob Gates or something.

Happy Nomad on January 14, 2014 at 8:57 AM

She also disputed the notion that the Sept. 11, 2012, assault evolved from a protest against the video, which was widely disseminated by Islamic clerics shortly before the attack.

“It doesn’t jibe with me,” she said.

These womyn in the Congress are not going to let Obummer (and just think how he is treating Michelle) interfere with their sister being the first one with a vagina get to the White House.

Shaughnessy on January 14, 2014 at 8:58 AM

And who was Secetary of State during this debacle?

If Hillary is to be the default democratic candidate for president I sure hope the republicans have enough sense to hang this on her and beat her to death with it.

Saverio on January 14, 2014 at 8:58 AM

She also disputed the notion that the Sept. 11, 2012, assault evolved from a protest against the video, which was widely disseminated by Islamic clerics shortly before the attack.

“It doesn’t jibe with me,” she said.

These womyn in the Congress are not going to let Obummer (and just think how he is treating Michelle) interfere with their sister being the first one with a v*gina get to the White House.

Shaughnessy on January 14, 2014 at 8:59 AM

Gomer Pyle just sent this Tweet:

SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!!

ToddPA on January 14, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Shazam!

antipc on January 14, 2014 at 9:01 AM

Does this count as a noble lie?

NotCoach on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Thank you candy crowley
/

Nothing to see here…we take nyt report as the gold standard
-lsm

cmsinaz on January 14, 2014 at 9:03 AM

James Rosen at Fox confirms this understanding at the highest levels of the Obama administration within minutes of the attack.

Payback’s a bitch ain’t it, Barack?

Kafir on January 14, 2014 at 9:04 AM

An ambassador died, Obama and Clinton lied.

albill on January 14, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Lsm fretting on the drip drip drip on Christie but have no time to bother with the drip drip drip of Benghazi IRS and fast n furious

cmsinaz on January 14, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

You are truly one Pathetic Human Being

ToddPA on January 14, 2014 at 9:06 AM

If Hillary is to be the default democratic candidate for president I sure hope the republicans have enough sense to hang this on her and beat her to death with it.

Saverio on January 14, 2014 at 8:58 AM

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

Stop it, Saverio, yer killin’ me.

Kafir on January 14, 2014 at 9:06 AM

But there was a traffic jam in Jersey…

dpduq on January 14, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Kumbya diplomacy and resulting security preparations

workingclass artist on January 14, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Sister, if you’re gonna waste your time posting about things that “literally” no one cares about (we’ll ignore the callous disregard for American lives your post implies) perhaps you can find time to respond to the following.

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

NotCoach on January 14, 2014 at 9:08 AM

This explains why Dog Eater got to bed early that night, when a U.S. embassy is being attacked by terrorists the first thing a POTUS should do is get their beauty sleep.

Bishop on January 14, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

You don’t care about a gay ambassador’s murder being covered up? And that had Hillary or Barky lifted their littlest pinkie to help he may not have been killed? And that if they hadn’t stopped help on the way he and others might not have been killed?

Oh. By the way. Muslims seems to hang gays. That doesn’t make you care?

oldroy on January 14, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

I think this person cares…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/08/pat-smith-benghazi_n_3236947.html

dpduq on January 14, 2014 at 9:09 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

All interest in the truth dies when a Leftist is in power. But we knew that.

What a fuc#ing solipsistic child.

rrpjr on January 14, 2014 at 9:09 AM

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Highjack alert.

docflash on January 14, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM
You are truly one Pathetic Human Being

ToddPA on January 14, 2014 at 9:06 AM

I wouldn’t even call him/her/it a Human Being.

Americans care.

kingsjester on January 14, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Well the media doesn’t care because Obama is a liberal Democrat.
And if this was Boooooosh you’d be running around with your dress over your head.

gwelf on January 14, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Uh, er, um… RACIST!

/msm

Punchenko on January 14, 2014 at 9:12 AM

oldroy on January 14, 2014 at 9:08 AM

There are no corpses that leftists won’t step on in order to protect their Chosen Ones, including the corpses of their fellow travelers.

Gay, black, liberal; there is no identity group on the left that can’t be thrown to the wolves if necessary.

Bishop on January 14, 2014 at 9:12 AM

Uh, er, um… Look! The Russians! The Russians refuse to fly the rainbow flag!

/msm

Punchenko on January 14, 2014 at 9:12 AM

Uh, er, um… Chris Christie! We found the smoking traffic cone!

/msm

Punchenko on January 14, 2014 at 9:13 AM

. As this also states, a visit by Panetta in December 2011, ten months before the attack, led the DoD to offer a Marine unit for security, which State refused.

Both agencies knew that Benghazi was a sitting duck, and yet the State Department did nothing to bolster security and the DoD did nothing to bolster readiness on the anniversary of 9/11. This is sheer incompetence stacked on more incompetence. That’s the scandal.

Incompetence is far too gentle an explanation. This was deliberate.

rbj on January 14, 2014 at 9:14 AM

This explains why Dog Eater got to bed early that night, when a U.S. embassy is being attacked by terrorists the first thing a POTUS should do is get their beauty sleep.

Bishop on January 14, 2014 at 9:08 AM

OBAMA DID NOT GO TO BED WHEN A US EMBASSY WAS BEING ATTACKED!

It was a consulate. And make no mistake that supporters of the rat-eared bastard love to hide behind such legalisms as the fact that you called it an embassy and not a consulate. Anything to distract from the true facts of that night. Obama went to bed and after lying his ass off in the Rose Garden got on a plane for a fundraiser in Las Vegas. He didn’t and still doesn’t give a damn about Benghazi.

Happy Nomad on January 14, 2014 at 9:14 AM

you’d be running around with your dress over your head.

gwelf on January 14, 2014 at 9:11 AM

He already does that when he dances in front of the mirror in his basement with it tucked between his legs.

CurtZHP on January 14, 2014 at 9:15 AM

There are no corpses that leftists won’t step on in order to protect their Chosen Ones, including the corpses of their fellow travelers.

Gay, black, liberal; there is no identity group on the left that can’t be thrown to the wolves if necessary.

Bishop on January 14, 2014 at 9:12 AM

And Hillary went around talking about the tragedy of her good ole buddy Chris who was killed and how unfortunate it all was. But for some reason her good ole buddy Chris’ emails regarding the dangerous situation in Libya and the utter lack of security didn’t make an impact.

And Hillary and Obama seemed to care as they told lies to the families of the fallen over their coffins. These are despicable human beings.
But libfreeordie doesn’t care. And wants these people running your life because they are more compassionate and competent than you are.

gwelf on January 14, 2014 at 9:17 AM

This explains why Dog Eater got to bed early that night, when a U.S. embassy is being attacked by terrorists the first thing a POTUS should do is get their beauty sleep.

Bishop on January 14, 2014 at 9:08 AM

More like hiding under the covers in a onesie with his trusty Mumia Abu-Jamal flashlight.

antipc on January 14, 2014 at 9:17 AM

So is Congress going to serve an arrest warrant on Hillary for lying to Congress?

albill on January 14, 2014 at 9:17 AM

So is Congress going to serve an arrest warrant on Hillary for lying to Congress?

albill on January 14, 2014 at 9:17 AM

She only agreed to talk to Congress after they promised that she wouldn’t be under oath. Ironic since the “what difference does it make” screech undid all the carefully crafted lies put together to protect her Presidential aspirations.

Happy Nomad on January 14, 2014 at 9:22 AM

What does this have to do with Chris Christie?

Deafdog on January 14, 2014 at 9:24 AM

Girl, literally no one who wants to see Hillary elected cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

What it really meant to say.

antipc on January 14, 2014 at 9:24 AM

…The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.

This single line should put to rest any arguments that Obama is not a Muslim.

Johnnyreb on January 14, 2014 at 9:24 AM

Darrel Issa should hold another hearing and after gathering yet more mounds of evidence, have a cup of coffee and do nothing.

This is all well and good but no one ever gets held to account, and which is also why I’ve been hanging up on the GOP fundraising calls which are now streaming in. I used to give a lot of money so I’m on their Special List, now I wouldn’t give them the lint from by belly button.

Bishop on January 14, 2014 at 9:24 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeorgan on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

…yeah…you, plugging YOUR hole is more important…isn’t it?

KOOLAID2 on January 14, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Okay. But more importantly, what was traffic like getting into -and from the attack?

BKeyser on January 14, 2014 at 8:56 AM

Don’t fret. I have it on good authority the NYT is on it.

lynncgb on January 14, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Think about how unrewarding one’s life has to be to troll, day after day after day, on a conservative website.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on January 14, 2014 at 9:30 AM

If Hillary is to be the default democratic candidate for president I sure hope the republicans have enough sense to hang this on her and beat her to death with it.

Saverio on January 14, 2014 at 8:58 AM
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

Stop it, Saverio, yer killin’ me.

Kafir on January 14, 2014 at 9:06 AM

What do I need to do to finish the job?

Saverio on January 14, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Special List, now I wouldn’t give them the lint from by belly button.

Bishop on January 14, 2014 at 9:24 AM

We always figured you were on a special list of some kind.

oldroy on January 14, 2014 at 9:31 AM

But hey there’s going to be live coverage of Christie’s SOS address
/

cmsinaz on January 14, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Of course it was, we knew right after the second plane hit the second tower that this was no accident, was terror. We didn’t need to know about the motive, whether it was about a stupid video or “blowback” for our foreign policy. We knew, straight up, right away that it was terrorism.

thebrokenrattle on January 14, 2014 at 9:38 AM

They can read your hat size from space. They watched it live on a 8′ HD screen.
Even without that “unarmed” drone that may or may not have been overhead.

It’s all a bunch of BS.

I set up presentations in the wardroom. Intel from OH-58′s. Haiti.

We knew when the voodoo doctor was heading to the bar. How many beers he would drink. And how long he would beat his wife when he got home.

You can’t imagine the scope of intel we process.

wolly4321 on January 14, 2014 at 9:39 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Benghazi, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nobody cares about Benghazi.

gumbyandpokey on November 2, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Birds of a feather.

FOAD, princess.

Solaratov on January 14, 2014 at 9:40 AM

But hey there’s going to be live coverage of Christie’s SOS address
/

cmsinaz on January 14, 2014 at 9:37 AM

I’m beginning to think we need to change how we view Christie. Less as a morbidly obese bully in charge of New Jersey and more like a planetary body who has the media in perpetual orbit around his every activity.

Happy Nomad on January 14, 2014 at 9:42 AM

What do I need to do to finish the job?

Saverio on January 14, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Just keep expecting Republicans to do the right thing and you’ll get there eventually.

Kafir on January 14, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

You’re a lousy 13% of the population. Your unemployment level is double ours. Look at any big city. Look at Detroit.

Heh. Literally no one cares.

Lanceman on January 14, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Obama is a serial liar. Who cares?
Obama is a marxist. Who cares?
Obama hates America. Who cares?
Obama is a friend to terrorists. Who cares?
Obama has great disdain for those who are successful. Who cares?
Obama is a serial liar. Who cares?

maryo on January 14, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

That’s exactly what Obama said to Ambassador Stevens.

Fallon on January 14, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Guaranteed, there was a flipping satellite parked on top of the place.

There was a gun running deal going down. Turkey.

And said satellite saw painted mortars. We operate in IR.

And they did nothing.

wolly4321 on January 14, 2014 at 9:50 AM

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

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Hey CHUMP . . . . . we reject, renounce, and defy the premise, that we’re all a bunch of “no one”s, here.

listens2glenn on January 14, 2014 at 9:50 AM

BSNBC goons spent ALL of prime time last night hammering and slandering Christie, calling him a liar, trying so hard to make him a villain.
Once they have inflicted as much damage as possible, they will return to exhaulting the lawless feckless sloth in the white house.
That’s news, brother!

maryo on January 14, 2014 at 9:52 AM

America in 2014:

A staffer loses her job for causing a traffic jam because her boss (loosely) belongs to a party with an ‘R’ in its name.

No one has lost their job for allowing 4 Americans to die in an attack on what should be considered sovereign American soil because their boss belongs to a party with a ‘D’ in its name.

Bitter Clinger on January 14, 2014 at 9:58 AM

and then hotair will run out of material to bash the President on…that’s what you’re really afraid of, right?

nonpartisan on November 19, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Chris of Rights on January 14, 2014 at 9:59 AM

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

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That’s exactly what Obama said to Ambassador Stevens.

Fallon on January 14, 2014 at 9:45 AM

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That’s gotta be one of the best counter-responses of all-time, at Hotair.

WOW . . . . . . . . . that knocks it out of the park, Fallon. . . : )
.
HEY LIBFREE’ . . . . . how ’bout responding to that.

listens2glenn on January 14, 2014 at 10:01 AM

and then hotair will run out of material to bash the President on…that’s what you’re really afraid of, right?

nonpartisan on November 19, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Crawl back under your rock now, cretin.

maryo on January 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Not that we didn’t know this already, but this makes it pretty unequivocal that the administration knowingly and repeatedly lied to the American public while hitting the complete circle of the Sunday talk shows a few days later.

And for months afterwards.

The question is why?

Look, we’re adults. We know that sometimes people f**k up. We’d forgive the f**k up in time. What we don’t forgive is the cover up.

And, not to be insensitive here, but we have to look at reality. 4 Americans died in a known hostile area. They knew there were risks with the assignment. This isn’t like 3,000 civilians dying senselessly because they chose to go to work on a Tuesday morning in September, 2001. Every life is important, but most Americans would understand a f**k up that cost the lives of 4 people in Benghazi. In the end, they’d be sad about it, and Obama would lose a few points on his job approval. That’s the end of it if the administration comes clean on day 1. Really, a bump in the road for the White House.

(I’m assuming for this argument that it was just a clusterf**k of incredible incompetence, not that there was something sinister going on. We can discuss that option at another time)

So, then the second question is, if they would lie so egregiously and continuously about a relatively small matter (from their political perspective), what else have they been willing to lie to us about?

Chris of Rights on January 14, 2014 at 10:10 AM

OT: Libfreeordie, cancel those Nigerian travel plans

Chris of Rights on January 14, 2014 at 10:13 AM

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the administration knew before the attack because they were probably involved in the planning of it. Obozo hates America and wants it destroyed. The traitor needs to go.

Flange on January 14, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Quite right. This was a thinly-veiled, planned and scheduled, paid hit on the Ambassador. It ties back to Morsi, the MoBo’s, and arms running into Syria. Ambassador Stevens got in the way, one way or another. The others were just collateral damage.

bofh on January 14, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Well, of course. Obama and his merry band of White House Cronies may be idiots, but our military leaders are not. They, of course, would know it was a military attack and tell their CinC that it was. Obama, however, probably thought the military was being paranoid, self-serving, and parochial and dismissed their analysis because he holds them in contempt, hasn’t a clue about military matters, and needed to believe so for political reasons. And, of course, his Cronies went along with this and encouraged it. I wonder which one of them came up with the brilliant idea of blaming the whole thing on the YouTube video?

Socratease on January 14, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Indeed HN

cmsinaz on January 14, 2014 at 10:19 AM

kingsjester on January 14, 2014 at 8:53 AM

You are correct. They also created a commercial apologizing for the video and sent Susan Rice out to lie on all the Sunday talking head shows.

And told bereaved relatives they would get the person who made the video.

dogsoldier on January 14, 2014 at 10:21 AM

Administration knew within minutes that Benghazi was a terrorist attack

Within days of the attack I expressed the logical opinion that the Obama Administration knew it was a terrorist attack as the attack was occurring.

Perhaps portlandon saved my comment.

Basilsbest on January 14, 2014 at 10:22 AM

I’m assuming for this argument that it was just a clusterf**k of incredible incompetence, not that there was something sinister going on.

Don’t assume that.

Why was Stevens in Benghazi on 9/11? Holding a meeting with the Turkish official?

You don’t think we had birds watching?

Maybe barky wasn’t watching, maybe her thighness wasn’t,, but somebody was.
It was the hotspot du jour. They knew when Stevens took a dump.

wolly4321 on January 14, 2014 at 10:22 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

If I were King, I’d ban you with a via an e-mail message that had a hard drive destroying virus on it. Were I clever enough, said virus would also play Rick Astley tunes in a continuous loop until your computer melted down into a quivering mass.

You add nothing to any debate here. You’re a liar and a fool.

hawkdriver on January 14, 2014 at 10:24 AM

Not that we didn’t know this already, but this makes it pretty unequivocal that the administration knowingly and repeatedly lied to the American public while hitting the complete circle of the Sunday talk shows a few days later.

And for months afterwards.

The question is why?

Look, we’re adults. We know that sometimes people f**k up. We’d forgive the f**k up in time. What we don’t forgive is the cover up.

Chris of Rights on January 14, 2014 at 10:10 AM

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I’m going to go out-on-a-limb, and say that this White House planned it all out, exactly how it went down, and that failure to effect a “cover-up” would result in hard prison time for multiple persons in this administration.

That’s the “why”.

The death of Ambassador Stevens was NOT a “screw-up”.

listens2glenn on January 14, 2014 at 10:27 AM

All the high officials meeting with Obama. What was the culmination of that meeting?

STAND DOWN

No high alert? No send every available resource to aid?

Since Obama went to bed.. that order could not be rescinded.

We saw how vigorously they persued the terrorists…. drinking coffee at an outdoor cafe must be a real hindrance to persuers.

mollymack on January 14, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

If I were King, I’d ban you with an e-mail message that had a hard drive destroying virus on it. Were I clever enough, said virus would also play Rick Astley tunes in a continuous loop until your computer melted down into a quivering mass.

You add nothing to any debate here. You’re a liar and a fool.

hawkdriver on January 14, 2014 at 10:24 AM

hawkdriver on January 14, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Well this just confirms what the majority of us thought. How about the team that was supposedly ready to fly to Benghazi but told to stand down? Have we gotten anywhere close to the truth on that yet?

Free Indeed on January 14, 2014 at 10:33 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Think about how unrewarding one’s life has to be to troll, day after day after day, on a conservative website.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on January 14, 2014 at 9:30 AM

That’s just it. There has to be some reward for it. Some sort of compensation from someone to make it worth while. No sane, normal person would do it otherwise.

You really have to wonder whether they realize that.

CurtZHP on January 14, 2014 at 10:34 AM

what else have they been willing to lie to us about?

Chris of Rights on January 14, 2014 at 10:10 AM

Alright, too many to list but I will start:

“Recovery Summer”
“Like your plan, keep your plan”
“Like your doctor, keep your doctor”
“I called it a terrorist attack, in the Rose Garden, watch the tape”
“Republican obstructionism is the cause…”

etc, etc, ad infinitum…

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on January 14, 2014 at 10:39 AM

hawkdriver on January 14, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Long time no see.

Welcome back.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on January 14, 2014 at 10:40 AM

Have we gotten anywhere close to the truth on that yet? Free Indeed on January 14, 2014 at 10:33 AM

No. We haven’t.

And we are also expected to believe there were no spec-ops in theatre. No one on line in the med.

wolly4321 on January 14, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Presumably, that’s what he then told Barack Obama. What happened in between to cause them to claim it was a demonstration that got out of control? One charitable possibility is that the State Department or CIA might have claimed otherwise based on faulty intel — it happens, especially in the fog of war — or it could be that someone concocted that story to give them political cover for the lack of preparedness that this event demonstrated.

It is indeed sad to see Ed Morrissey is now suffering from Allahpunditidiotictheorizing Syndrome. What happened is that they failed to assess the security situation in Libya; failed to heed the warnings when the English Ambassador and the Red Cross were attacked; and failed to respond to Stevens requests for more security.

And when the inevitable happened and it was not possible to blame George Bush the grossly incompetent Obama Administration did what they always do: THEY LIED.

It’s bad enough that the MSM pathetically covers for Obama, do we really need Hot Air doing the same?

Basilsbest on January 14, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Girl, literally no one cares…..we must protect our totally unqualified Goddess at all cost…

libfreeordie on January 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

FIFY

Care to tell us what qualified Hillary to be the Junior Senator from New York?

We’ll work our way up the food chain from there.

(Starts glacier-powered sundial)

Del Dolemonte on January 14, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Help should have been sent, no matter how far away that help was stationed. You don’t abandon Americans under attack, no matter the circumstances. If help arrived too late, then it was too late, but it should have been sent.

That compound was an American base. It should have been secured ASAP, and a manhunt for the perps commenced immediately, in force, and without regard to what the Libyans or anyone else thought about it.

But Obama had an election to win, and Hillary had a reputation and an image to protect. So they pretended there was no attack, no help was sent, and they concocted a massive deception about a demonstration, based on perfectly understandable anger over an insulting video, to conceal their craven failures to perform their duties. They then proceeded to lie repeatedly to the entire nation for weeks. We still don’t know what “President” Barack Hussein Obama was doing that fateful night as Americans fought and died.

The refusal of repeated requests for additional security, and the failure to prepare to respond to terrorist attacks on the anniversary of 9-11 reflect the effort by Obama and Clinton to impose their preposterous political narrative on reality. That can work at home with the collaboration of a politically perverted media, but it doesn’t work on the other side of the planet.

Obama and Clinton are sick souls, utterly unworthy of leading a drum circle, let alone our country. They are deserving only of contempt and disgust.

novaculus on January 14, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Allahpunditidiotictheorizing Syndrome.

Lol!

wolly4321 on January 14, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Please, don’t feed the trolls.

Midas on January 14, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Del Dolemonte on January 14, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Um, how big is your backyard? You got an awful lot of sundials and stopwatches running.

Lanceman on January 14, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Poor George…….. shouldn’t of called 9/11 an attack….. it was just a couple out of control jets.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on January 14, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Obama and Clinton are sick souls, utterly unworthy of leading a drum circle, let alone our country. They are deserving only of contempt and disgust.

novaculus on January 14, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Even if obama got half the votes he did and Romney won by a landslide, that’s still too much stupid out there running free for my taste.

Lanceman on January 14, 2014 at 10:56 AM

That’s just it. There has to be some reward for it. Some sort of compensation from someone to make it worth while. No sane, normal person would do it otherwise.

You really have to wonder whether they realize that.

CurtZHP on January 14, 2014 at 10:34 AM

I might have to disagree here. The story is that this one is a professor. Right? I really don’t think so. It posted comments here as DeathToMediaHacks for a long time until it was banned for insinuating violence against another commenter. It’s story back then was that it was a student at a DC college and that it was also writing a book. We caught it in lies all the time. Now, he’s been claiming he’s been a professor for the last several years. So, he’s been out of college not even long enough to make a mark on the world but he’s a professor already? For several years? Don’t think so. Someone got in trouble for supposedly linking to his real identity, which was some gay black professor somewhere. He got all indignant and said he’d never comment here again. And of course, he was so afraid of people knowing who he really was that he broke his pledge and was posting again days later. I don’t think it was him. He’s not/can’t be an educator of any kind.

I think he lives off of public assistance and is somebody’s “wife”. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that). He might have tried college a few years and he might have even tried to write a book. But he isn’t a college professor. He’s had way too many sockpuppets here and posts way too much to be involved in anything else.

But it doesn’t stop me from having empathy for him. I pray for our trolls. I do. My prayer for him specifically is that his hubby isn’t slapping him around when he gets home from a hard day of clerking at Bed, Bath and Beyond for not having dinner on the table.

hawkdriver on January 14, 2014 at 10:57 AM

1. Take the Apache for example. A war leader had to show by deeds that he was in fact a good leader in “combat”, ie a good knife fighter, or a great night stalker for the kill, or a real raid on another emeny tribe and take bounty or captives.

2. Take the Democrat Party example: A leader who hates war or fears war or uses the diableing of the other war leaders by those treason deeds to show that he is a good Democrat Party war leader.

3. The Democrat Party had their wanted and needed for them leader in place. Obama the perfect Democrat (treson) Party leader.

Results count.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 14, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Elections matter.

Nothing else does, including gunned down U.S. ambassadors.

So let it be written,
so let it be done.

- the Obama regime

fogw on January 14, 2014 at 10:59 AM

Not a single IR signature in the entire Country of Lybia went undetected. Not like it would be hard to single out.

wolly4321 on January 14, 2014 at 10:59 AM

hawkdriver on January 14, 2014 at 10:31 AM
Long time no see.

Welcome back.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on January 14, 2014 at 10:40 AM

Thanks a lot. I’m taking a well earned rest from being my own paid handy-man. :-)

hawkdriver on January 14, 2014 at 11:00 AM

Democrat Party war leaders of late:

LBJ
Carter
Clinton
Obama

Only question would be, “Which one is/was the biggest fool/traitor/hack/nonothing/drunk on duty?”

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 14, 2014 at 11:05 AM

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