Colorado bill may prevent use of food stamps money to buy pot. Wait… what?

posted at 2:01 pm on January 12, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

Admit it… when Colorado legalized recreational marijuana, some of you thought that the entire state had taken leave of its senses and the population was already well on its way to sinking into a Cheetos filled haze of confusion. But apparently there are still some sane – or at least somewhat less stoned – heads doing business out there. A bill is under consideration which would prevent make it somewhat more difficult to use cash from food stamps cards to buy pot. (You mean they can do that?) The details from Townhall.

A bill proposed this week by several Republicans would add marijuana dispensaries to liquor stores, gun shops and casinos as places where recipients of public assistance payments and food stamps can’t use their electronic benefits cards to access cash.

There haven’t been any reports of public EBT cards being used at marijuana dispensaries. But lawmakers say pot shops should be added to the law to make clear it’s not legal.

“We need this bill, if for nothing else, as a statement,” said Rep. Jared Wright, R-Grand Junction.

“We shouldn’t be enabling anyone to buy a substance that is banned under federal law. It’s not a good use of taxpayer money,” he said.

Of course, as Daniel Doherty points out, it’s not exactly a fool proof plan.

Presumably, EBT card recipients could still take out cash elsewhere — and then go and buy pot. (I hope I’m not giving anyone any ideas). But at least this kind of a law would prohibit them from flagrantly ripping off taxpayers, by making it illegal to withdraw government cash inside marijuana dispensaries.

That’s got to count for something, no?

We don’t want to just dismiss this plan out of hand and throw the baby out with the bong water here, guys. Okay, so in theory the pot smoker could grab some cash at the Piggly Wiggly and then head on down to Ye Olde Pot Shoppe, but consider the sequential thinking and planning that would be required to pull that off. Once they have the cash in hand they would probably have to walk past the inevitable snack food impulse purchase racks which stores always put near the checkout counters. The rows of Ho-Hos, Little Debby’s and (non-medicinal) brownies would probably be too much to resist. Before you know it the cash is gone and then they have to start the process all over again.

Ah, Colorado. If nothing else, you’ll provide a huge boon to bored bloggers for years to come. And for that, America thanks you.


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Food stamps were for food, you shouldn’t be able to use them as an ATM.

agmartin on January 12, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Ah, Colorado. If nothing else, you’ll provide a huge boon to bored bloggers for years to come. And for that, America thanks you.

“Colorado will provide a huge bong to stoned bloggers for years to come. And for that, HotAir thanks you.”

I can only imagine what our trolls will say next.

VegasRick on January 12, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Completely reasonable. You can’t buy hooch with your EBT either. And for any D-Bags in Colorado who’d complain about this; Jesus, do you want me to smoke it for you too?

teacherman on January 12, 2014 at 2:07 PM

obama’s low-life freeloaders ain’t gonna be happy.

Pork-Chop on January 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Why?

Colorado embraced lawlessness, push the pedal to the floor boys.

Subsidize it, if a person is broke give it to them for free…

to the moon…

we live in a nation where pot is legal and you are restricted in your choice of light bulbs.

Brave New World it looks like an insane asylum to me.

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 2:13 PM

They just shift their spending anyew
anyway.
*

Jamson64 on January 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Since when is a food stamp EBT able to be used to access cash (at least legally)?

Bitter Clinger on January 12, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Welcome to the United States of Potheads. Doesn’t it make you proud to be an American?

rplat on January 12, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Since when is a food stamp EBT able to be used to access cash (at least legally)?

Bitter Clinger on January 12, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Colorado is already breaking one federal law in doing this, why not break another.

My problem is not with legalization itself, but the notion that you should tackle legalization of intoxicants before economic liberty.

Screw it legalize IT ALL and subsidize it, ship it the entire nations’ door with the USPS.

I cannot buy enough dristan for my recurring sinusitis down here in the south b/c “meth” but potheads ghet to cheeto out on foodstamps…

Nice “land of he free” we have going here.

The nation is the world’s largest open-aired insane asylum.

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Like I have said before, if I ran things the EBT card would be replaced with 5# blocks of cheese, rice bags and beans. To be picked up at your local dispenser. Want steak get a job. It infuriates me that there can be money back on the EBT card.

Yeah i know I’m a racist.

jukin3 on January 12, 2014 at 2:22 PM

Welcome to the United States of Potheads. Doesn’t it make you proud to be an American?

rplat on January 12, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Ounces, punds, or tonnes get as many who want to be stoned as stoned as they want to be…

heck if the economic case is the case for pot legalization how can one argue against cocaine legalization>?

To the moon…since we won’t reform their welfare via drug-testing let Darwin sort them out.

Colorado is going to use their pot use in alliance with the Feds ignoring their state’s law breaking to restrict the potheads gun rights.

This nation needs a divorce.

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM

What part of “food” stamps do people not understand?

Othniel on January 12, 2014 at 2:39 PM

What part of “food” stamps do people not understand?

Othniel on January 12, 2014 at 2:39 PM

“It’s an ingredient for my brownies MAAAANNNN”

If pot on foodstamps is hunky dory we need to ok beer for its grain, wine for its grapes, and vodka for its taters….

idiots in power

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Phil Robertson Fired!
What do you think?

I think its great to be reminded of your previous outrage. Just think of all the outrage you have forgotten about!

tlynch001 on January 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Pot is not the problem here. Misuse of the EBT money and fraud is. Stoners or no stoners, it’s apparently not overly difficult for EBT cards to be used for getting some cash. It’s really not legal, but neither is smoking pot anywhere but Colorado right now and people have been toking for decades.

JetBoy on January 12, 2014 at 2:43 PM

but consider the sequential thinking and planning that would be required to pull that off. Once they have the cash in hand they would probably have to walk past the inevitable snack food impulse purchase racks which stores always put near the checkout counters. The rows of Ho-Hos, Little Debby’s and (non-medicinal) brownies would probably be too much to resist. Before you know it the cash is gone and then they have to start the process all over again.

Never ever underestimate the ingenuity and attention to detail parasites have when it comes to their benefits. They may be LIV but they can cite the rules about welfare including the historical precedents, legal rulings, and philisophical intent.

If they want to buy pot with their “transitional living funding” they’ll find a way to do it.

Happy Nomad on January 12, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Food stamps were for food, you shouldn’t be able to use them as an ATM.

agmartin on January 12, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Correct you can not buy pot with them.

But in some states the same card is used for welfare “cash” payments that is what will not be allowed in ATM’s in Pot stores like at bars and such.

Article is wrong. No Food Stamps can not buy pot.

Steveangell on January 12, 2014 at 2:46 PM

What part of “food” stamps do people not understand?

Othniel on January 12, 2014 at 2:39 PM

The temporary safety net part.

Happy Nomad on January 12, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Pot is not the problem here. Misuse of the EBT money and fraud is. Stoners or no stoners, it’s apparently not overly difficult for EBT cards to be used for getting some cash. It’s really not legal, but neither is smoking pot anywhere but Colorado right now and people have been toking for decades.

JetBoy on January 12, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Pot is the problem because it shows a portion of the right will rush to the left because “justice” just like the GOP civil unions advocates(like I was) and gay right ran to the left to embrace gay marriage as led by the radicals.

They are free to do so, but it is indicative that the libertairan bent is going to be slaked and reduced to being a Libertine movement not one that is serious about wide spectrum liberty.

Congrats GOPers that are allying with a Libertine left that will NEVER reciprocate…

genius move…for our next trick let’s remove age of consent laws for those of our caucus so inclined…

I won’t be joining you but “FREEEEDDDDOOOOMMMM” well in “non-serious things not like you know economic liberty that’s SQUARE maaaaannnn”

Screw it legalize it all and let the bodies hit the floor.

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 2:49 PM

Article is wrong. No Food Stamps can not buy pot.

Steveangell on January 12, 2014 at 2:46 PM

And the parasites on food stamps all only are using it as a temporary safety net, hate taking the welfare, and look forward to the time when they no longer need the assistance.

Happy Nomad on January 12, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Never ever underestimate the ingenuity and attention to detail parasites have when it comes to their benefits. They may be LIV but they can cite the rules about welfare including the historical precedents, legal rulings, and philisophical intent.

If they want to buy pot with their “transitional living funding” they’ll find a way to do it.

Happy Nomad on January 12, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Yup anyone thinking that there will be ANY serious welfare reform or curtailment for addicts is dreaming.

The GOP’s historically noble libertarian base(and I a small libertarian) has gotten into the habit of empowering the Democrats’ Libertine Marxist “freedom” base.

The Bill Maher Libertine Marxists will NEVER aid us in the devolution of the super state team…

we are empowering a stoner marx.

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Nice “land of he free” we have going here.

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Oh, dude, did you not get the notice? We traded that away a couple of presidents ago. For a blue dress and a couple of blunts to be named later.

GWB on January 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Oh, dude, did you not get the notice? We traded that away a couple of presidents ago. For a blue dress and a couple of blunts to be named later.

GWB on January 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM

I got the notice, I am simply standing in awe at Bill Clinton’s bas*ard son extant.

I figure legalize it all…let the world adapt to a post American military world and maybe in 25-500 years we’ll get a nation on this soil as good as the one we ceded.

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 2:53 PM

“Socialism is great as long as your spending other people’s money.” (paraphrased)

- M. Thatcher

Booze. Bimbos. Dope and Cigs. all on welfare using “food” stamps.
Why not throw in actual “food”. You know the healthy stuff: chips, deep fried anything and soda.
Make sure those sodas are at least 16 ounces.

Work?!?!?!?!? What the f*ck is that!?!?!?!?

Bubba Redneck on January 12, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Sounds like a WHOLE ton of misinformation here.

You can’t use *ANY* card to buy marijuana in Colorado right now.

Not food stamps EBT card, not your debit card, not your AMEX Gold Business Card…nothing.

Facilities in Colorado that sell, are *only* accepting cash, and most maintain an ATM on their premises.

If I had to prognosticate, I would say that the cash only method will be in place for quite some time, as well. Saves the establishments having to wrestle with bad checks, protested transactions with CC companies, easier to track with State DOR…
everyone take a breath about Food Stamp slugs buying dope with your tax money, it ain’t happenin’.

Why do people insist on railing against this smoke screen from Jobs numbers that sucked a$$ this week, and the travesty that is obamacare? Eyes on the prize, people.

a5minmajor on January 12, 2014 at 2:59 PM

we are empowering a stoner marx.

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Yeah, The second-order effects from legalizing pot and calling same-sex marriage acceptable have yet to be determined. If pot is legal, why not cocaine or meth? If you can “marry” somebody of the same sex, why not multiple wives and/or the goat who is your soulmate.

It’s all the same argument. The sodomites say that no, absolutely not, when anyone dares suggest that the same logic they use to justify their demands are equally applicable to those wanting to practice polygamy and/or beastiality. Likewise those who say pot couldn’t possibly lead to any harm are wrong.

Happy Nomad on January 12, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Tell you what, I’ll let you all have this provided we get:

1. Chain gangs back. “Cool Hand Luke” style chain gangs.
2. No more parole. All convicts serve 100% of their sentences.
3. Change all minimum sentences to 8 years.
4. DUI or OUI (operating machinery under the influence) convictions begin have 10 year minimum sentences. Make a vehicular homicide conviction carry the death penalty.

As for the actress washing her car in “Cool Hand Luke”, anybody remember her name?

Bubba Redneck on January 12, 2014 at 3:05 PM

We used to hand out blocks of cheese. What happened to that?

faraway on January 12, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Joy Harmon?

going2mars on January 12, 2014 at 3:08 PM

Yeah, The second-order effects from legalizing pot and calling same-sex marriage acceptable have yet to be determined. If pot is legal, why not cocaine or meth? If you can “marry” somebody of the same sex, why not multiple wives and/or the goat who is your soulmate.

It’s all the same argument. The sodomites say that no, absolutely not, when anyone dares suggest that the same logic they use to justify their demands are equally applicable to those wanting to practice polygamy and/or beastiality. Likewise those who say pot couldn’t possibly lead to any harm are wrong.

Happy Nomad on January 12, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Brooks and Frum and sadly it seems Mary Katherine Ham are all too happy to ally with donks on their social and legal preferences and at times their economic ones.

That’s okay that is one way to get things done, but if the point of the GOP is not personal AND economic freedom why have I donated so much time and money over my adult life?

Everyone has their “cookie” they want and they keep thinking that in getting their cookie there is some captive part of the Democrat party that will naturally join us.

Amnesty, drugs, gays you name it there is some delusional part of the GOP that is the principled shadow of the principlesless Democrats who are striving to get their cookie.

Legalize it all, it is immoral potheads are going to get a pass but we lock up pill poppers.

Either everyone gets their kicks or nobody does.

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 3:12 PM

“everyone take a breath about Food Stamp slugs buying dope with your tax money, it ain’t happenin’.”
a5minmajor on January 12, 2014 at 2:59 PM

you can turn your RBT card into anything from hookers to heroin
…if you know what your doing…to think otherwise is foolish..

will the hooker take a EBT card…no..but the corner liquor store
might give you 70 or 80 cents on the dollar cash and then you go
down the street to shadytown…and cash for pot is in there somewhere…cash for booze too…I know your shocked ..
barter and trade is as old as the country…
its just not a chicken for a loaf of bread anymore..
is it the most pressing problem in the nation?…
hmm…should be in the top ten somewhere.. federal fraud..

going2mars on January 12, 2014 at 3:14 PM

We used to hand out blocks of cheese. What happened to that?

faraway on January 12, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Being on food stamps used to be shameful, too. People accepted it for as little time as possible. Now it is an entitlement.

What’s up with that?

Happy Nomad on January 12, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Admit it… when Colorado legalized recreational marijuana, some of you thought that the entire state had taken leave of its senses and the population was already well on its way to sinking into a Cheetos filled haze of confusion.

Given that it has to be passed post-legalization, I think those of us who were saying they’d taken leave of their senses have been proven right.

Stoic Patriot on January 12, 2014 at 3:15 PM

We used to hand out blocks of cheese. What happened to that?

faraway on January 12, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Liberalism happened, either that or marxism your pick.

D-fusit on January 12, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Either everyone gets their kicks or nobody does.

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Isn’t that the essence of liberalism? They are not happy until everybody is as miserable as they are.

As to your comments about MKH- I’m much more happy with her being the voice of younger Republicans than idiots like Meghan McCain.

Happy Nomad on January 12, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Presumably, EBT card recipients could still take out cash elsewhere — and then go and buy pot.

Wait, what? How in hell is it possible for EBT card recipients to use the card to get *cash*??

Midas on January 12, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Isn’t that the essence of liberalism? They are not happy until everybody is as miserable as they are.

As to your comments about MKH- I’m much more happy with her being the voice of younger Republicans than idiots like Meghan McCain.

Happy Nomad on January 12, 2014 at 3:19 PM

I like MKH, backed her on twitter vs O’Reilly’s calumnies and consider her an ally. That said she reached rhetorically for her cookie did not offer the libertarian rebuttal that drug legalization should be accompanied by welfare reform and controls at least to the level of tobacco and alcohol etc etc. She is entitled to argue as she will and believe as she will, and is most certainly a saner and more cogent voice than Moogan McCans who is a democrat from a democrat family.

That does not change that “cookie grabbing” is going to hurt the nation and empower the mules.

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Yeah i know I’m a racist.
jukin3 on January 12, 2014 at 2:22 PM

You are probably a racist. Only a racist will automatically assume there are more blacks and Hispanics on food stamps than whites.

loveofcountry on January 12, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Facilities in Colorado that sell, are *only* accepting cash, and most maintain an ATM on their premises.

everyone take a breath about Food Stamp slugs buying dope with your tax money, it ain’t happenin’.

a5minmajor on January 12, 2014 at 2:59 PM

Then you didn’t read the article. This is about exactly those ATM machines. The proffered legislation is supposed to prevent EBT ATM transactions in pot stores the same way it is (supposedly) currently prevented in bars and liquor stores.

GWB on January 12, 2014 at 3:27 PM

You are probably a racist. Only a racist will automatically assume there are more blacks and Hispanics on food stamps than whites.

loveofcountry on January 12, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Imagine that. Do we get to factor in numbers per % of population, the impact of the theoretically outlawed but still prevalent affirmative action on the skew or can we just agree that there are TOO MANY PEOPLE ON FOODTSAMPS IN THIS CLUSTERF**K EPA OBAMANOMICS MESS WE ARE IN?

Obamanomics the assertion that a roaring economy sheds 1.5-2.5 million of people per year into U6 structural unemployment.

IDIOCY

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 3:28 PM

You can hear the stoners right now, reading this story (or more likely having someone read it to them) … and learning.

“So wait … you mean … Dude!

Jaibones on January 12, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Then you didn’t read the article. This is about exactly those ATM machines. The proffered legislation is supposed to prevent EBT ATM transactions in pot stores the same way it is (supposedly) currently prevented in bars and liquor stores.

GWB on January 12, 2014 at 3:27 PM

It’s not but who cares?

Scamming the benedits system is as old as time and was a billion dollar biz in detroit in the 80s.

I am almost to the point that I’d settle for trading the EPA Granola superstate for a reverse income tax giving 2 grand a month to every citizen in the nation for the cessation of the “benefits administration staff”….

it’ll never happen but none of our idiot elected class are willing to counter the donk use of extreme case with a retaliatory one to prove a point…

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Well, technically you can cook and eat or drink grass….

profitsbeard on January 12, 2014 at 3:32 PM

You are probably a racist. Only a racist will automatically assume there are more blacks and Hispanics on food stamps than whites.

loveofcountry on January 12, 2014 at 3:25 PM

15.3% of blacks
10.6% of Hispanics
3.7% of whites

Ronnie on January 12, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Just looking at those douchebags in the screen cap makes me fear for my nation.

Bishop on January 12, 2014 at 3:34 PM

You are probably a racist. Only a racist will automatically assume there are more blacks and Hispanics on food stamps than whites.

loveofcountry on January 12, 2014 at 3:25 PM

You are probably a racist. Only a racist will automatically assume that whites use a disproportionately higher percentage of food stamps than blacks and hispanics.

CWchangedhisNicagain on January 12, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Kaboom!

Murphy9 on January 12, 2014 at 3:46 PM

You are probably a racist. Only a racist will automatically assume that whites use a disproportionately higher percentage of food stamps than blacks and hispanics.

CWchangedhisNicagain on January 12, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Unemployment and the welfare state are a universal problem MOST ESPECIALLY when the Democrat Dominated Hyper-Regulatory Fiat Alphabet “non-partisan” regulatory agencies are in a war with US growth.

Race has little to do with the overarching issues and the leftist insistence on trying to balkanize us is because they KNOW if the American people as a whole ever look at their idiotic performance as economic stewards they are done.

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Presumably, EBT card recipients could still take out cash elsewhere — and then go and buy pot.

Wait, what? How in hell is it possible for EBT card recipients to use the card to get *cash*??

Midas on January 12, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Yes they can get cash not for the “food” part the “welfare” or child support….parts.

It’s got a handy other name so people don’t call it welfare.

TANF.

http://www.dphhs.mt.gov/hcsd/tanf/tanfeligibility.shtml

MontanaMmmm on January 12, 2014 at 3:53 PM

As for the actress washing her car in “Cool Hand Luke”, anybody remember her name?

“Lucille” was played by Joy Patricia Harmon.

Solaratov on January 12, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Well now the food stamp budget will be increased not just to pay for pot but to pay for more food for the potheads who will be eating more because of the side effect.

bgibbs1000 on January 12, 2014 at 4:09 PM

You are probably a racist. Only a racist will automatically assume there are more blacks and Hispanics on food stamps than whites.

loveofcountry on January 12, 2014 at 3:25 PM

There are…as a percentage of their demographic.

And there’s no “probably” about you being a racist, lost motherhumper. You definitely are a racist.

btw, Why do you hate America, you piece of shit?

Solaratov on January 12, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Presumably, EBT card recipients could still take out cash elsewhere

Isn’ this a debit like card to buy only food items? How does one get “cash” with it?

paulsur on January 12, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Because the law that says you can’t buy lap dances, crack, or Schlitz malt liquor with EBT money works so well

BobMbx on January 12, 2014 at 4:22 PM

loveofcountry on January 12, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Are facts racist?

Midas on January 12, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Isn’ this a debit like card to buy only food items? How does one get “cash” with it?

paulsur on January 12, 2014 at 4:19 PM

All they have to do, is buy a 50cent bag of candy for their 4yr old at nine pm at night and they can get cash back, I gave some gal $360 dollars back the other night.

Yes they can get cash not for the “food” part the “welfare” or child support….parts.

It’s got a handy other name so people don’t call it welfare.

TANF.

http://www.dphhs.mt.gov/hcsd/tanf/tanfeligibility.shtml

MontanaMmmm on January 12, 2014 at 3:53 PM

MontanaMmmm on January 12, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Ah, Colorado. If nothing else, you’ll provide a huge boon to bored bloggers for years to come.

The state of Florida is saying, “Thank you, Colorado!”

RoadRunner on January 12, 2014 at 4:39 PM

The proffered legislation is supposed to prevent EBT ATM transactions in pot stores the same way it is (supposedly) currently prevented in bars and liquor stores.

GWB on January 12, 2014 at 3:27 PM

I’m sure the ATM is owned by/registered to “Joe’s Grocery”.

Who is John Galt on January 12, 2014 at 4:39 PM

They’ll hit the ATM, get the cash, then forget why they got it.

GarandFan on January 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Yeah i know I’m a racist.

jukin3 on January 12, 2014 at 2:22 PM

You are probably a racist. Only a racist will automatically assume there are more blacks and Hispanics on food stamps than whites.

loveofcountry on January 12, 2014 at 3:25 PM

The statistics prove that the only racist here is yourself. But we knew that already. Why do you think we keep laughing at you?

F-

Del Dolemonte on January 12, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Why have any restrictions at all on the EBT credit card. Money is fungible. Restrictions create “Black Markets” and reduce the income of the deserving individual.

wukong on January 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Why have any restrictions at all on the EBT credit card. Money is fungible. Restrictions create “Black Markets” and reduce the income of the deserving individual.

wukong on January 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Why have government healthcare with federal coercive power?

The inefficiency of the distribution of Federal “aid” if we set aside the morality of the argument of whether or not aid is moral is profound and market breaking because of interference via subsidy in price equilibrium.

Democrats are not in the “aid” business for moral they are slinging graft. They would fight reforms such as what you posit, and they would fight my desire to reduce insurance to a catastrophic insurance plan bought privately with a stipend for the poor. The GOP never attacks the democrats on their side of the argument as we did in the 70s.

Milton Friedman rest his soul would have eaten Obamacare as rendered’s lunch.

harlekwin15 on January 12, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Admit it, Jazz Shaw is a moron and has probably the worst postings on this website.

jephthah on January 12, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Admit it, Jazz Shaw is a moron and has probably the worst postings on this website.

jephthah on January 12, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Smells like Teen Spirit in here.

Del Dolemonte on January 12, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Del Dolemonte

I don’t get what the point of this thread is? He seems like he’s butthurt about marijuana being legal? The sky didn’t fall when they repealed prohibition, and it won’t fall from marijuana being legalized.

jephthah on January 12, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Not a problem.

They’ll just get a High Council to declare ganja a “recreational food group.”

viking01 on January 12, 2014 at 6:10 PM

The fallacy of all prohibitory and moral legislation is the same. A and B determine to be teetotalers, which is often a wise determination, and sometimes a necessary one. If A and B are moved by considerations which seem to them good, that is enough. But A and B put their heads together to get a law passed which shall force C to be a teetotaler for the sake of D, who is in danger of drinking too much. There is no pressure on A and B. They are having their own way, and they like it. There is rarely any pressure on D. He does not like it, and evades it. The pressure all comes on C.

The question then arises, Who is C? He is the man who wants alcoholic liquors for any honest purpose whatsoever, who would use his liberty without abusing it, who would occasion no public question, and trouble nobody at all. He is the Forgotten Man again, and as soon as he is drawn from his obscurity we see that he is just what each one of us ought to be.

William Graham Sumner (1840–1910)

donabernathy on January 12, 2014 at 6:13 PM

viking01

It IS pretty good when you put it in food

jephthah on January 12, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Del Dolemonte

I don’t get what the point of this thread is? He seems like he’s butthurt about marijuana being legal? The sky didn’t fall when they repealed prohibition, and it won’t fall from marijuana being legalized.

jephthah on January 12, 2014 at 6:05 PM

If Jazz were the only Hot Gas talking head starting threads about Colorado’s recent pot law change, you might have a valid complaint. But since there have been many such threads by Ed and AP and Erika here over the past 2 weeks, what’s your beef? This is simply another angle to the story.

Del Dolemonte on January 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM

The White Ghetto

If you don’t understand how food stamps are used, take a gander. Warning: some of you may be offended the “Heartland” is targeted in this article.

antisense on January 12, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Why have any restrictions at all on the EBT credit card. Money is fungible. Restrictions create “Black Markets” and reduce the income of the deserving individual.

wukong on January 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM

I am not working so some lazy-ass welfare POS can play.
They on welfare they doing community service.
Because I do not want some welfare POS using my tax dollars to get stoned. That is why.
POS wants to get stoned, fine. Let him pay for it himself. Wanna get stoned or drunk or high, fine. Pay for it yourself and stay off the roads when you are.
Get a DUI; 10 years in prison.
Hurt someone while DUI; spend the rest of your life in prison.
Kill someone while DUI; death by hanging.

You want freedom then you get the responsibility that goes with it.d

Bubba Redneck on January 12, 2014 at 6:35 PM

You want freedom then you get the responsibility that goes with it.d

Bubba Redneck on January 12, 2014 at 6:35 PM

I agree, but shopkeepers will give cash back on EBT purchases or give them cents on the dollar under the table.

There is no real way to stop that other than some more .gov regulations which won’t work. That or cutting off the spigot.

antisense on January 12, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Why can the card be used ANYWHERE to get cash???? It should be used to buy acceptable food items ONLY, not as an ATM card!!! How long has this been allowed? This Country has grown into an unrecognizable mess which I am finding harder and harder to tolerate.

Susanboo on January 12, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Del Dolemonte

It’s just not a very well done thread and the subject matter is such a non-issue. He just wants to make stoner jokes about cheetos and bong water. Hey I get it, if you haven’t tried marijuana then you r likely to be scared of it.

jephthah on January 12, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Susanboo on January 12, 2014 at 6:50 PM

if I also told you ppl gamble with EBT monies…would you be ‘shocked’ shocked to find out gambling was going on here…
ppl have been using foodstamp/EBT cards for unintended uses since day one….
been that way your whole life…im sorry to report

going2mars on January 12, 2014 at 7:27 PM

just want to point out how incredibly out of touch and inaccurate this is
of 10 people you know and work with, at least 3 smoke pot and you will NEVER know, unless they tell you
every person who smokes pot is not an idiot, any more than anyone who has a a drink a stumbling drunken bum
grow up

CallousDisregard on January 12, 2014 at 8:07 PM

I don’t understand why every dope smoking parasite hasn’t moved to Colorado by now. I know it’s a little cold this time of year, but it shouldn’t take much prodding to get our Minnesota dope heads packing. They probably got the really good weed out there, too!

Buddahpundit on January 12, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Ah, Colorado. If nothing else, you’ll provide a huge boon to bored bloggers for years to come. And for that, America thanks you.

And evidently Jazz is trying to get a leg up as a “bored blogger.” Hey Jazz, I’ll put you up with room and board, and transportation if you want to come to Colorado and actually see what’s going on here in Pot Land.

And we don’t have any Piggly Wiggly’s here idiot.

Walter L. Newton on January 12, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Holy sh*t, Batman! What’s next? You mean I may not be able to use my EBT card in the Black Hawk and Central City casinos down the road or for pole dances at Shotgun Willies? It’s just not fair.

That’s it. I’m sending the Mark Udall reelection campaign a $1. (Unless I can charge it on my EBT card.)

NoPain on January 12, 2014 at 9:54 PM

It’s just not a very well done thread and the subject matter is such a non-issue. He just wants to make stoner jokes about cheetos and bong water. Hey I get it, if you haven’t tried marijuana then you r likely to be scared of it.

jephthah on January 12, 2014 at 6:58 PM
the stoner jokes are boring and not very original. i beleive most weed smokers are middle aged white men. feel free to correct me if i’am wrong.

svs22422 on January 12, 2014 at 11:55 PM

It’s just not a very well done thread and the subject matter is such a non-issue. He just wants to make stoner jokes about cheetos and bong water. Hey I get it, if you haven’t tried marijuana then you r likely to be scared of it.

jephthah on January 12, 2014 at 6:58 PM
the jokes about weed smokers is boring,old and unoriginal.

svs22422 on January 13, 2014 at 12:37 AM

sorry,didnt see my post, so i did a do over.

svs22422 on January 13, 2014 at 12:41 AM

My idea of a welfare ‘replacement’ system – probably easily payed for by the reduction in fraud:

When you go on welfare, you become, in essence, a ward of the state. Take old abandoned military bases, what have you. Have a closed compound. You go into that compound and from that point until you decide you want to try living in the real world again, your day is programmed. YOu have a bed time, you have a time to get up. You have specific meal times with your menu items decided for you. You spend time doing unrewarding drudge work or taking jobs-skills courses. If you have kids, appropriate educational facilities and daycare will be made available …

But under no circumstances should you be able to use money taken by force from working and taxpaying individuals to buy yourself lobster and choom.

Arssanguinus on January 13, 2014 at 5:44 AM

Who would have guessed dope fiends were such dullards?

Murphy9 on January 13, 2014 at 7:16 AM

I live in Colorado; I know some broke (no income, unemployed, etc.) people. Some with kids.

So I know several people with EBT cards (or have had them in the past year or two at least; most of those I knew with cards have since gotten jobs, to be fair with this).

I know of NO people with EBT cards who can get cash with their EBT cards at an ATM or other legal method. I have no idea how one gets this “perk”.

If a mother of two with WIC and EBT and no income for over 3 months can’t get this “benefit” then who precisely can, and how? as for this woman I was directly helping her with some expenses while she got back to work and on her feet financially; so I know for certain her shopping/expenses/benefits… and I know for certain her EBT card could not provide cash. This isn’t hypothetical in the least.

Pass the law, for the few who somehow have cash on their EBT card; but I have no idea who that is or why they have that in the first place.

gekkobear on January 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM