Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on January 9, 2014 by Allahpundit

Six New Jersey residents have filed a federal lawsuit against Gov. Chris Christie, the state of New Jersey, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, and others over traffic jams in September…

The plaintiffs want it certified as a class action.

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CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin said there was a lot still to unravel regarding communications between the parties and how the decision to disrupt traffic was made.

“That question will be very important for Paul Fishman,” Toobin said of the U.S. Attorney for New Jersey…

Fishman’s office is working with the FBI’s public corruption unit to see if any federal laws were broken, a law enforcement source told CNN.

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Chris Christie is a favorite among deep-pocketed Wall Street donors for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination. But the New Jersey governor’s involvement in a major scandal over lane closures on the world’s busiest bridge could threaten to cool some of that support

The concern, as one donor who’s supported Christie put it, is that the actions by the Christie aides “is environmental. He created an environment where that could happen.”…

One senior financial services industry executive said support is not yet wavering for Christie but could if the scandal is not cleaned up fast.

“Everyone is looking at how he handles it,” said this person, who declined to be identified by name in order to speak candidly about Christie. “They are not as concerned about the scandal itself, assuming he didn’t actually know anything about it, but about the management of it. Can he tidy it up neatly and decisively. If he can, great. If not you will see people waver.”

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Here’s the problem with that tack (with the acknowledgment that given Christie’s ambition, it’s the only approach he could possibly take): If ANYTHING comes out that suggests that he had any sort of involvement in ANY way with the closures of the lanes, he is done for. He left no wiggle room for himself. None. He also insisted that this episode was anomalous in his administration — repeatedly rejecting the idea that he was a bully or fostered a bullying atmosphere within his senior staff…

This is in the early stages, not the late ones, and Christie’s strong denials on Fort Lee and broader dismissal of the idea of a bullying culture mean that if incidents come to light that contradict those denials, they are even more problematic to Christie and his future than they would have been a week ago.

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By admitting that he didn’t know anything about it, the governor admits to allowing a rogue political operation to operate underneath him. Given how cavalier these aides were about this infraction and how small the political stakes, it’s hard to imagine that in bigger instances at least some other gambits weren’t tried. If you are caught firing your six-shooter willy-nilly around the house at fruit flies, there’s a pretty good chance you’re behaving recklessly because you’ve become habituated to the recklessness and it isn’t your first time. This offered another moment in which Christie’s story seemed ripe for puncturing. He seemed confused at how on earth anything like this could be possible. That would be a hard posture for any politician to maintain, especially one with Christie’s reputation for political fortitude.

As this story unfolds, we’ll see if this was an isolated incident that grew in a culture that was otherwise hostile to such low behavior or whether this was a part of a broader pattern. At the very least, this will complicate Christie’s efforts to sell himself in the future as a hands-on manager.

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Democrats predictably condemned the New Jersey governor after a bombshell report Wednesday tied one of his top staffers to a burgeoning scandal that’s already been dubbed “Bridge-gate.” More notable was the dearth of Republicans who rose to Christie’s defense — and, privately, the schadenfreude expressed by some of them that a man who’s never been shy about taking shots at others was suddenly on the receiving end…

“All these people who feel like he’s bullied and he’s put them in a horse-collar hold … will feel free to say, ‘See, I told you so,’” said one Republican who has worked with Christie.

That sense of glee from detractors “is going to be worse than they anticipate,” said the Republican, adding that local critics but also detractors in some of the early presidential states might now feel emboldened to take shots at a man who 24 hours ago was seen by many as the most likely GOP standard-bearer in 2016.

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Republican media strategist Rick Wilson, who worked on Rudy Giuliani’s 2008 presidential campaign, argued that Christie “goes out of his way to be a dick to other Republicans” — and will reap the payback if his fortunes start to head south.

“You’re going to see conservatives returning the favor he gave them over the last year. There’s no love lost between Chris Christie and conservatives. I don’t expect them to be in love with him, and he doesn’t want their love,” said Wilson. “But if you want to win a GOP primary, you better find a way to get there.”…

Added one GOP strategist: “He has gotten way, way ahead of his supply lines in terms of national exposure. His straight talk reputation now runs the risk of slipping into a bad place where voters grow tired of his style and this kind of drama.”

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I’m ambivalent on his run for the Presidency. But I don’t see him getting that far for the very reasons underlying this issue — he and his staff operate as divas.

I have had Congressmen, Governors, and the staffers of Congressmen and Governors tell me horror stories about dealing with Christie’s people. All of them seem to dread it…

This was always going to be Christie’s problem. People want a winner. And they want an a**hole. But they want the person to be their a**hole, not an a**hole who tries to make everyone else his whipping boy.

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It’s a grotesque Jersey version of the ugly truth that underlies all electoral politics: The primary goal is to win re-election. There’s a reason that the same people who work on political campaigns then work for important jobs in government—it’s largely the same job, with the same boss, and the same goal…

Think of these kinds of careers, and of the callous disregard these people can have for voters and insufficiently loyal politicians (Stepien’s reaction to Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich’s public complaints about the traffic jam was “The mayor is an idiot”), the next time you hear someone describe politics as public service. When you give politicians power—such as the authority to appoint leaders to bi-state public bodies that control basically all the infrastructure in and around New York City and New Jersey—you are handing over tools that they and the many plausible deniers that work for them can and will use to get the boss man re-elected. It is disgusting, and it is predictable. If you want less corruption, give politicians less power.

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Speaker of the House John Boehner said he believes New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is still a serious contender for 2016 in spite of the scandal surrounding the closing of lanes on the George Washington Bridge last year…

Asked if Christie could still be a top contender if he were to run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016, Boehner said he believes Christie could.

“I think so,” he said. “I think so.”

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….a rare Page 3 BISHOP!!

williamg on January 10, 2014 at 2:06 AM

You shouldn’t need a freaking computer to open the pod Bay doors.

How about putting a freaking handle on the doors or a freaking door knob. Idiots.

SparkPlug on January 10, 2014 at 1:59 AM

“Open The Pod Bay Doors, please, HAL….”

williamg on January 10, 2014 at 2:11 AM

You shouldn’t need a freaking computer to open the pod Bay doors.

How about putting a freaking handle on the doors or a freaking door knob. Idiots.

SparkPlug on January 10, 2014 at 1:59 AM

rotf :)

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 2:12 AM

It still is a bishop. A late night Bishop.

The main reason why one side of the moon always faces the earth is because the other side always faces away from Earth.

SparkPlug on January 10, 2014 at 2:13 AM

Also outer space gets you dizzy enough without putting a freaking ferris wheel in the middle of the space station. You just end up at the beginning and they call this space travel.

SparkPlug on January 10, 2014 at 2:05 AM

“Our first stop: the Gayway to Heaven, that spins you skyward on a great space wheel. The fabulous Gayway, where you guide your own rocket, and taxi to tomorrow.”

Anti-Control on January 10, 2014 at 2:13 AM

SparkPlug, what hair style should you have? And color? I’ve needed to ask this. I thought “Spiky Black” — but you may want a fro or something.

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 2:15 AM

Or blond flat-top.

Who knows?

Might be a Bielieber, and need . . . a “sheep dog.”

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 2:16 AM

Shiny, parted preacher hair.

Can be anything.

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 2:16 AM

It’s obvious you pikers are clueless about outer space.
Ok what’s the speed of light in a Hoover canister vac?

c

The same as in a Kerby upright.

SparkPlug on January 10, 2014 at 2:17 AM

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 2:15 AM

Disco fro? Carrot top?

Nope. Bowl cut.

SparkPlug on January 10, 2014 at 2:18 AM

It’s obvious you pikers are clueless about outer space.
Ok what’s the speed of light in a Hoover canister vac?

c

The same as in a Kerby upright.

SparkPlug on January 10, 2014 at 2:17 AM

Morning Kirby songs

Sell a Kirby day

“We sell, we sell Kirbys…”

Anti-Control on January 10, 2014 at 2:22 AM

The main reason why one side of the moon always faces the earth is because the other side always faces away from Earth.

SparkPlug on January 10, 2014 at 2:13 AM

^ This is Hot Air. A gathering of spherionormative neanderthals where it never enters into any mouth-breather’s mind that the moon might not have a spherical self-identity.

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 2:26 AM

Nope. Bowl cut.

SparkPlug on January 10, 2014 at 2:18 AM

And bowl it shall be. If you be not 16th century English noble in thine appearance, may I be castrated and set singing for fat men purple robéd and taken for an unfortunate-looking wench.

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 2:30 AM

SparkPlug, what hair style should you have? And color? I’ve needed to ask this. I thought “Spiky Black” — but you may want a fro or something.

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 2:15 AM

….sort of like Alfalfa’s?

williamg on January 10, 2014 at 2:32 AM

….sort of like Alfalfa’s?

williamg on January 10, 2014 at 2:32 AM

No, but I’m using that somewhere now. :) I forgot about Alfalfa’s.

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 2:37 AM

It’s obvious you pikers are clueless about outer space.
Ok what’s the speed of light in a Hoover canister vac?

c

The same as in a Kerby upright.

SparkPlug on January 10, 2014 at 2:17 AM

186,000 miles per second…..It’s Not Just A “Good Idea“….It’s The LAW!!……

williamg on January 10, 2014 at 2:37 AM

Quick Drive By Peeps, from Thurs Jan 9 2014,
Paul Ryan with Brian Williams, on the Poverty War:
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Ryan on the War on Poverty: ‘It has failed’
Thu Jan 9, 2014 7:52 PM EST

VIDEO:(62:36)
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NBC News’ Brian Williams interviews Paul Ryan and a panel of journalists about poverty in America at the Newseum in Washington, D.C.

By Domenico Montanaro, Deputy Political Editor, NBC News
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Former Republican vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan on Thursday argued that the War on Poverty has “failed” in an interview with NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams as part of the network’s “In Plain Sight” poverty reporting project, commemorating Lyndon Johnson’s the War on Poverty.

“I would give us a failing grade,” Ryan said, before adding of the War on Poverty: “It has failed.”
(More………………)
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http://inplainsight.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/09/22245861-ryan-on-the-war-on-poverty-it-has-failed?lite

canopfor on January 10, 2014 at 2:41 AM

186,000 miles per second…..It’s Not Just A “Good Idea“….It’s The LAW!!……

williamg on January 10, 2014 at 2:37 AM

Give or take?

HT/thatsafactjack

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 2:41 AM

Montrose – “Space Station #5″

Start with the Sun, and move on out
The future’s in the skies above
The heavens unfold, and a new star is born
Space and time makin’ love
Oh what a time we had, living on the ground
I’ve moved to Station #5, see ya next time around
Next time around

As far you want, as close as you need
It’s all in your mind, you know
This old world hasn’t really seen it’s day
It’s here, time to go

Anti-Control on January 10, 2014 at 2:44 AM

Not “taken” taken, just taken.

Freakin’ English nobles.

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 2:47 AM

Give or take?

HT/thatsafactjack

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 2:41 AM

……”close enough for Engineering Purposes……”

…..I can tell you the joke that goes with that sometime…..it involves a naked woman closed in a room with a mathematician, a physicist and an engineer…..and – well, I’ll tell ya’ later

williamg on January 10, 2014 at 2:56 AM

I am so disgusted with how even supposedly “conservative” sites like this one contribute to the confusion and blurring of the line between legal and illegal immigration. Quit calling it just “immigration reform.” It should always be referred to as “illegal alien amnesty.”

Ed Morrissey and Mary Katherine and the others are a disappointment. They have been given this great platform, and they treat it like an opportunity to engage in bland social hour, while accepting liberal framing of issues. There is no passion or “fight” within these people.

bluegill on January 10, 2014 at 2:59 AM

I took a trip down to L’America
To trade some beads for a pint of gold
L’America, L’America, L’America
L’America, L’America, L’America

C’mon people, don’t ya look so down
You know the rain man’s comin’ ta town
And change the weather, change your luck
And then he’ll teach ya how ta…find yourself
L’America

Anti-Control on January 10, 2014 at 3:13 AM

……”close enough for Engineering Purposes……”

…..I can tell you the joke that goes with that sometime…..it involves a naked woman closed in a room with a mathematician, a physicist and an engineer…..and – well, I’ll tell ya’ later

williamg on January 10, 2014 at 2:56 AM

Meh. Rainbow’s bunk. Light is constant.

Look forward to later. :)

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 3:16 AM

Ed Morrissey and Mary Katherine and the others are a disappointment. They have been given this great platform, and they treat it like an opportunity to engage in bland social hour, while accepting liberal framing of issues. There is no passion or “fight” within these people.

bluegill on January 10, 2014 at 2:59 AM

“Moderates” do come across pretty blasé.

Though, to be fair, they probably think you (and I) are “shrill.”

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 3:18 AM

Anti-Control on January 10, 2014 at 3:13 AM

God Bless Jim Morrison!

williamg on January 10, 2014 at 3:19 AM

Maybe it’s a union computer.

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 3:26 AM

Maybe light gets lost.

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 3:30 AM

God Bless Jim Morrison!

williamg on January 10, 2014 at 3:19 AM

Strange Days have found us
Strange days have tracked us down
They’re going to destroy our casual joys
We shall go on playing or find a new town
Yeah!

Anti-Control on January 10, 2014 at 3:44 AM

You know what, while I personally think these charges are overblown, I’m just a little bit glad to see some air let out of Christie’s tires, so to speak. Frankly, he’s not my first choice for the nomination, he’s not even my second. I’d be willing to vote for him if he got it, but I don’t want to see it handed to him without a struggle.

Granted, I certainly don’t want to see the level of primary infighting we saw in 2012, but there is such a thing as a happy medium. XD

WolvenOne on January 10, 2014 at 4:11 AM

Honey Honey, sweet baby
I don’t know what you do to me
I don’t know what you do, but you do everything right
Yeah you do it all right
And it’s just the way you said, it so sends my head
The sound of your voice makes me feel all right
Yeah honey, this is right

And there is something in the way you walk
And there is something in the way you talk
But there’s something in you that I just don’t want to see

Honey what I’m feeling now is something that you don’t know how
I don’t know how you make me feel so high
But now ain’t the time

And there is something in the way you dream
And there is something in the way you scheme
And there is something in you that I just don’t want to see

Honey honey, sweet baby

Anti-Control on January 10, 2014 at 4:23 AM

Did you guys see this:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/01/09/girls-producers-defend-nudity/

Lena Dunham and her producers freak out when someone questions why she has to be naked on camera all the time.

That woman is so vile to me. Why is she popular?

bluegill on January 10, 2014 at 4:44 AM

Granted, I certainly don’t want to see the level of primary infighting we saw in 2012, but there is such a thing as a happy medium. XD

WolvenOne on January 10, 2014 at 4:11 AM

If certain individuals were willing to encourage the nomination of a principled conservative instead of doing the same old shit time-and-again and just expecting different results, maybe we would actually get different results.

Instead, I just have all the same old suspects deriding me for wanting to “destroy the Republican Party” every time I try to point out the things we should have learned from the two(!) presidential elections that Obama won.

gryphon202 on January 10, 2014 at 4:55 AM

Lena Dunham and her producers freak out when someone questions why she has to be naked on camera all the time.

That woman is so vile to me. Why is she popular?

bluegill on January 10, 2014 at 4:44 AM

Because she’s naked all the time?

kcewa on January 10, 2014 at 5:03 AM

Lena Dunham and her producers freak out when someone questions why she has to be naked on camera all the time.

That woman is so vile to me. Why is she popular?

bluegill on January 10, 2014 at 4:44 AM

Because she’s naked all the time?

kcewa on January 10, 2014 at 5:03 AM

I’d guess again.

Unless you like the Maddow look.

But I’ve never seen it, so I can’t guess.

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 5:17 AM

He really reminds me of another “leader” who swore he had nothing to do with the actions of his subordinates: Col. Nathan R. Jessup

TxAnn56 on January 9, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Wow! That is one astute observation! Christie and Jessup also share the same overconfident, arrogant personalities.

Good call!

thejackal on January 10, 2014 at 5:25 AM

If you ask exec producer Judd Apatow, who addressed the incident after the panel, the wording of the reporter’s question itself, directed to creator and star Lena Dunham, was not only “offensive” but “sexist” and “misogynistic.” (For the record, here it is verbatim: “I don’t get the purpose of all the nudity on the show — by [Dunham] in particularly. I feel like I’m walking into a trap where you go, ‘Nobody complains about all the nudity on Game of Thrones,’ but I get why they do it. They do it to be salacious and titillate people. And your character is often nude at random times for no reason.”)

“That was a very clumsily stated question that’s offensive on it’s face, and you should read it and discuss it with other people how you did that,” Apatow said, speaking to the reporter who asked the question. “It’s very offensive.”

In the moment, Dunham herself spoke clearly about her position on the nudity, saying it is “a realistic expression of what it’s like to be alive. But I totally get it. If you’re not into me, that’s your problem and you’re going to have to work that out with professionals,” she retorted. And later, fellow EP Jenni Konner interrupted her response to another question to add, “I literally was spacing out because I’m in such a rage spiral about that guy,” she said pointing to the question-asker. “I was just looking at him looking at him and going into this rage [over] this idea that you would talk to a woman like that and accuse a woman of showing her body too much. The idea it just makes me sort of sick.

^ Hilarious, and totally worth a read. :)

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 5:28 AM

so did this presser soothe mika and joe?

Good Morning HA!

does the lsm or the dems see the double standard in all of this? the way they pressure and question christie to death over this issue versus how quiet and ambivalent they are towards obama’s numerous scandals…

i guess all they see is that there is an R next to one name and a D next to the other….

pathetic

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 5:45 AM

kcewa on January 10, 2014 at 5:03 AM

I didn’t mean anything, by the way. :) I just read the article first and didn’t like her much, so I took that line. Sorry; more right-angled than it should have been. I was clumsy.

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 5:50 AM

You shouldn’t need a freaking computer to open the pod Bay doors.

How about putting a freaking handle on the doors or a freaking door knob. Idiots.

SparkPlug on January 10, 2014 at 1:59 AM

^ Bump, for morning crew. :)

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 5:45 AM

Morning, morning crew. ;)

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 5:51 AM

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 5:51 AM

morning Aze :)

well mika and joe thought he did very well…

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 6:05 AM

oh geez…morning Axe….sorry about that…

need more coffee please

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 6:06 AM

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 6:06 AM

interesting how “it’s the tone” of Christies office. No words needed to be said.

Obama and the IRS? nada

renalin on January 10, 2014 at 6:10 AM

well mika and joe thought he did very well…

Fox and Friends is making him sound like Reagan, Lincoln, and George Washington wrapped together.
Quite amazing. I don’t really follow theories but it is obvious this guy will be rammed through like Romney whether you want him or not. Really George Will? Christie is “better candidate” now?

Marcus on January 10, 2014 at 6:10 AM

must read joes mind. he just went on a mini tirade against obamas culture of corruption.

renalin on January 10, 2014 at 6:11 AM

this is worse than being caught with a prostitute
-donnie deutch

joe finally brings up IRS and the rest of the scandals and he’s done nothing about it…isn’t that worse than traffic lanes?

donnie and mika excuses obama because the us gov’t is SO much bigger

joe wouldn’t take it…

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 6:13 AM

renalin on January 10, 2014 at 6:11 AM

finally

obama never takes responsibility
-joe

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 6:14 AM

Marcus on January 10, 2014 at 6:10 AM

cripe i hope not….i don’t want him to be the next gop nominee…

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 6:15 AM

obama couldn’t control all of his agencies but christie should have
-donnie

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 6:18 AM

need more coffee please

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 6:06 AM

I dunno. I kind of like it. :) Sort of laid back.

“Sup, Aze?”

Maybe a hard e. . .

“Sup, Ayzee?”

Christie is “better candidate” now?

Marcus on January 10, 2014 at 6:10 AM

200% better = 0 x 2

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 6:19 AM

Axe on January 10, 2014 at 6:19 AM

:)

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 6:21 AM

chris christie will be president of the united states if he stays who he is

-joe schmoe

renalin on January 10, 2014 at 6:25 AM

cripe i hope not….i don’t want him to be the next gop nominee…

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 6:15 AM

At least the Fox and Friends show seems to be tossing rose petals at Christie’s feet. Amazing. Nary a harsh word said. Middle America can recognize the tactics of a thug politician.

Marcus on January 10, 2014 at 6:29 AM

All this talk about what a great job Christie did at his presser.. The bar is pretty low. All he had to do was NOT scream ‘At this point what difference does it make’.

esr1951 on January 10, 2014 at 6:29 AM

renalin on January 10, 2014 at 6:25 AM

puhleeze

Marcus on January 10, 2014 at 6:29 AM

*sigh*

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 6:34 AM

Marcus on January 10, 2014 at 6:10 AM

Like many, I, too, thought this brouhaha would spike Christie’s chances for the nomination, but I should have known better.

Ramming it is.

On reflection, it appears obvious Romney was the most conservative candidate the GOPe will ever allow to win the nomination, and they only went that far because they regarded him as a sacrificial lamb going up against a popular incumbent black President.

From now on every GOP nominee is going to be straight from the Bashing SoCons Is Fun And Crushing Wages With Massive Infusions Of Desperate Foreign Labor Is Good For The Country mold.

fadetogray on January 10, 2014 at 6:41 AM

Marcus on January 10, 2014 at 6:10 AM

Like many, I, too, thought this brouhaha would spike Christie’s chances for the nomination, but I should have known better.

Ramming it is.

On reflection, it appears obvious Romney was the most conservative candidate the GOPe will ever allow to win the nomination, and they only went that far because they regarded him as a sacrificial lamb going up against a popular incumbent black President.

From now on every GOP nominee is going to be straight from the Bashing SoCons Is Fun And Crushing Wages With Massive Infusions Of Desperate Foreign Labor Is Good For The Country mold.

fadetogray on January 10, 2014 at 6:41 AM

You guys are forgetting one important little factor in all this: The Democratic Party. The GOPe must realize that at some point, if Christie is going to run for national office, it’s going to be against a Democrat who will almost certainly try to make political hay out of bridgegate. People who would vote for him anyway may not care, but if the whole point of nominating him would be to “win the undecided,” I can’t understand how this scandal wouldn’t taint him in a general election.

gryphon202 on January 10, 2014 at 6:48 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And, Trolls.

OT:

“…just because you can have a baby, it doesn’t mean you should. Especially without planning for one or getting married first. More than 72 percent of children in the African-American community are born out of wedlock. That means absent fathers. And the studies show that lack of a male role model is an express train right to prison and the cycle continues. So, please, black folks, as I said if this doesn’t apply to you, I’m not talking to you. Pay attention to and think about what has been presented in recent history as acceptable behavior. Pay close attention to the hip-hop and rap culture that many of you embrace. A culture that glorifies everything I just mentioned, thug and reprehensible behavior, a culture that is making a lot of people rich, just not you. And it’s not going to.”

– Don Lemon, CNN, 7/27/2013
My take: “DOJ to America’s Schools: “Spare the Rod”…or, You’re Racists!”

kingsjester on January 10, 2014 at 6:52 AM

Agree with you, gryph. Also,the MSM and the dems will not let this issue die out. There will be lawsuits ad infinitum. The press will gleefully report on them. The low information voters will hear all this as background noise. I think his political future is done.

esr1951 on January 10, 2014 at 6:53 AM

I can’t understand how this scandal wouldn’t taint him in a general election.

gryphon202 on January 10, 2014 at 6:48 AM

You are making the natural error of thinking the GOPe pick a nominee in order to win.

As long as the Democrat is fighting for open borders, the GOPe just wants enough Congressional control to minimize tax hikes on the rich.

Keep in mind: What the GOPe is all about, 100%, when the chips are down and what they do actually matters, is the short term (a few years) maximizing of the take home ‘pay’ of wealthy people. Everything else is rhetoric.

fadetogray on January 10, 2014 at 6:58 AM

You are making the natural error of thinking the GOPe pick a nominee in order to win.

As long as the Democrat is fighting for open borders, the GOPe just wants enough Congressional control to minimize tax hikes on the rich.

Keep in mind: What the GOPe is all about, 100%, when the chips are down and what they do actually matters, is the short term (a few years) maximizing of the take home ‘pay’ of wealthy people. Everything else is rhetoric.

fadetogray on January 10, 2014 at 6:58 AM

It is difficult for me to envision a scenario in which the Republican Party would literally throw an election, but I can not discount that as a possibility.

gryphon202 on January 10, 2014 at 7:08 AM

It is difficult for me to envision a scenario in which the Republican Party would literally throw an election, but I can not discount that as a possibility.

gryphon202 on January 10, 2014 at 7:08 AM

2008

fadetogray on January 10, 2014 at 7:15 AM

The concern, as one donor who’s supported Christie put it, is that the actions by the Christie aides “is environmental. He created an environment where that could happen.”…

Wrong. He created an environment where he encouraged that sort of behavior to happen. Some would go further and say he requires behavior like that.

Plus he is anti-gun. And vetoing a couple of laws he told his legislature to create is just a very weak smokescreen.

Johnnyreb on January 10, 2014 at 7:20 AM

At least the Fox and Friends show seems to be tossing rose petals at Christie’s feet. Amazing. Nary a harsh word said. Middle America can recognize the tactics of a thug politician.

Marcus on January 10, 2014 at 6:29 AM

This aspect of Bridgeghazi has seen little discussion but it is important.

It doesn’t matter if Christie knew about the lane closures or not (if it comes to light that he did, the fat man is toast). What matters more is that he created an environment where his senior staff thought it was okay to go out after political opponents. That’s more than just abuse of power it is a cultural norm that starts at the top.

Put another way, the fact that Christie is a petty bully manifested itself in Bridgeghazi whether or not he knew about it. His staff clearly was acting in his name when they did it. That does not speak well for what kind of manager the fat man really is.

Happy Nomad on January 10, 2014 at 7:22 AM

Plus he is anti-gun. And vetoing a couple of laws he told his legislature to create is just a very weak smokescreen.

Johnnyreb on January 10, 2014 at 7:20 AM

Anti-gun, pro-amnesty, a squish on same-sex marriage at best…. plus he endorsed Obama for the Presidency. We’re supposed to forget all that since he yells at people like the petty bully that he really is.

Happy Nomad on January 10, 2014 at 7:23 AM

“has anybody mentioned the contradiction in Christie’s presser..you know then one about he had 2 sleepless nights and just found out it yesterday AM”

No, many are still worried about “its not fair, no one is going after Obama” and making jokes about Christie’s weight (the harpoon
one was very funny).

Referring to your comment, I am sure Joe and what’s her name or
Chris Matthews will target in on that slip up. However, Christie could state that he had two sleepless nights over the situation itself since he knew about it for a few weeks at least; however, just found out about his staff being involved “yesterday AM”. He should slither his way out of that one pretty easily.

One observation: It appears the Romney crowd has moved pretty
easily in to the Christie camp.

A question: Who do the GOP have next in line? Ryan? Bush? ??

Amjean on January 10, 2014 at 7:25 AM

plus he endorsed Obama for the Presidency.

That was just glowing approval of Obama at a critical moment approaching election day. Not an actual ‘endorsement.’

fadetogray on January 10, 2014 at 7:28 AM

Why couldn’t he sleep for the last 2 nights when he supposedly only found out 1 night ago.

Not only is he a bully, he is a liar and a bully.

stenwin77 on January 10, 2014 at 7:29 AM

A question: Who do the GOP have next in line? Ryan? Bush? ??

Amjean on January 10, 2014 at 7:25 AM

I’ve been thinking for some time that Jeb is the GOPe Plan A.

fadetogray on January 10, 2014 at 7:31 AM

That was just glowing approval of Obama at a critical moment approaching election day. Not an actual ‘endorsement.’

fadetogray on January 10, 2014 at 7:28 AM

It was a de facto endorsement of Obama. I don’t care if he actually said the words that he endorsed his fellow bully for a second term. All that gushing praise, the bro-hugs, the long walk on the beach hand-in-hand…… If they were any closer they would need to get a motel room. As it is, I’d like to see the side by side pictures of the fat man and Obama on the beach next to that picture of the Clintons dancing on the beach.

Happy Nomad on January 10, 2014 at 7:36 AM

Put a fork in the Big Chubby Guy

He’s done.

When your close personal staff knows immediately “just what to do” to political opponents, ( checking with the boss or not), they definitely have clear marching orders, and mindset, set by the boss.

(The boss most likely knew but let’s be charitable for now)

BigSven on January 10, 2014 at 7:37 AM

I
WILL
NEVER…

NEVER…

NEVER…

EVER…

EVER..

EVER………VOTE FOR CHRIS CHRISTY !

(or Jeb Bush)

stenwin77 on January 10, 2014 at 7:43 AM

Renalin did you notice that Joe didn’t bring up Obama’s scandals and environment with chuck David and axlerod……just on Christie

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 7:48 AM

The boss most likely knew but let’s be charitable for now

BigSven on January 10, 2014 at 7:37 AM

To a certain extent it doesn’t matter. If the Director of the Ports Authority, Christie’s Chief of Staff, and at least one of the Deputy Chiefs concocted the whole thing up without the knowledge of the fat man, they were still acting on his behalf.

Christie left two important things out of yesterday’s marathon presser. First, what was he doing back when the reports of massive traffic jams were coming in? What did he do? It would seem that the Governor should have been at least asking the question why the lanes were closed.

Secondly, he talked about a process where his staff was “interviewed” under the gun of a one hour deadline and the guilty (or less innocent) were placed in sacrifice on the altar of Christie’s Presidential ambitions. The reality is that there should be a real and substantive investigation of who knew what and when. That takes time and what Christie needs to demonstrate is that no guilty party is getting a pass.

All of this assumes, of course, that Christie really didn’t know what was going on and is merely responsible for the cultural climate that spawned this kind of behavior.

Happy Nomad on January 10, 2014 at 7:51 AM

Small scandal, big target, MFM blows up proportion of the scandal to the size of the target.

Those MFM outlets are trying to provide cover for Obama’s failures and their own deceit in not covering any of Obama’s scandals in the way they are covering this minor affair.

They lie by silence, they lie when they speak, they are partisan and they think that you and I are distractable idiots.

Keep your eye on the target.

This big balloon isn’t it and it is self-popping in any event.

ajacksonian on January 10, 2014 at 7:57 AM

Word of the day

Culture

The lsm is focusing on the culture Christie created that something like this would occur…… how about the culture Obama has created

Yeah crickets

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 7:59 AM

Ah yes, the redneck hillbillies, the white trash of America.

Dueling banjos

keep the change on January 10, 2014 at 12:22 AM

This bigot should be banned.

hawkdriver on January 10, 2014 at 8:01 AM

+1AJ

cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 8:03 AM

– Don Lemon, CNN, 7/27/2013
My take: “DOJ to America’s Schools: “Spare the Rod”…or, You’re Racists!”

kingsjester on January 10, 2014 at 6:52 AM

…saw that yesterday…glad you jumped on that topic!

KOOLAID2 on January 10, 2014 at 8:03 AM

how about the culture Obama has created

……
cmsinaz on January 10, 2014 at 7:59 AM

You mean the culture of love and caring for the little guy where they try so hard to do the right thing they sometimes make mistakes?

- Objective Journalist

fadetogray on January 10, 2014 at 8:06 AM

I
WILL
NEVER…

NEVER…

NEVER…

EVER…

EVER..

EVER………VOTE FOR CHRIS CHRISTY !

stenwin77 on January 10, 2014 at 7:43 AM

So we can put you down as undecided?

Seriously, I’m never going to vote for the fat man either. It was true from the point he endorsed Obama (some say to clear the way for his own run in 2016)

Happy Nomad on January 10, 2014 at 8:08 AM

If the liberal media wants to knock Christie out of the race I suppose I shouldn’t mind too much, but the fact they won’t engage Obama on anything is disgusting. Along with that Hillary’s campaign has barely started rolling done the runway. There’s not an ounce of decency in the leftwing propaganda organs of our country.

claudius on January 10, 2014 at 8:37 AM

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