Here we go: House GOP to release “principles” on immigration reform by the end of January

posted at 11:21 am on January 9, 2014 by Allahpundit

This isn’t S.O.P. before major legislative initiatives, is it? Typically the party just puts together a bill and unveils that. There may be a “white paper” circulated among the caucus but it’s not carefully leaked to generate a buzzy story in the New York Times.

The point of this, I assume, is to signal to centrists, business groups, and Latino voters that they really are going to pass something this year — just not yet. It probably won’t include a path to citizenship as that’d be too politically toxic to conservatives, and it won’t be passed soon lest a big amnesty push early in the year trigger a wave of tea-party primary challenges. But they’re going to pass something, once the primary deadline passes. This is Boehner’s way of buying a little more patience from his allies until then.

House Speaker John A. Boehner and his Republican leadership team are preparing to release their principles for an overhaul of the nation’s immigration laws later this month, the speaker told his members at a closed-door conference on Wednesday.

Though the “standards or principles document,” as Mr. Boehner of Ohio referred to the white paper in the meeting, has long been in the works, its imminent release reflects a broader push within the Republican conference to put forth its own proposals as a counterpoint to legislation in the Democratic-controlled Senate…

The goal of the principles is to gauge the Republican conference’s willingness to tackle immigration this year, as well as to receive feedback from lawmakers before embarking on a legislative strategy.

You can guess what the principles will be: Piecemeal reform instead of comprehensive; a heavy rhetorical emphasis on border security, whatever that means in practice; no newly-created special path to citizenship (but conspicuous silence about letting legalized illegals apply for citizenship through existing channels down the road); and then something delicately phrased about bringing people out of the shadows and attracting highly educated talent abroad. Message: “We won’t sell you out, conservatives!” Which raises the question — why wait to introduce a bill, then? Do it now and let the primary chips fall as they may.

A group of conservatives in the House are launching a preemptive strike, with clever timing:

The letter, which makes no mention of the must publicized aspect of comprehensive reform (a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants), strikes a populist tone in light of the president’s focus on income inequality. It questions the wisdom of White House-backed reforms that would dramatically increase the number of low-skilled legal immigrants admitted to the country over the next decade, and, according to the Congressional Budget Office, decrease the average wages of American workers.

The Senate immigration bill, which the White House supports, would “permanently displace American workers” at a time when millions are already out of work, the lawmakers write, while enriching the large corporations who are eager to get their hands on cheap labor.

“The White House has entertained a parade of high-powered business executives to discuss immigration policy, all while shutting out the concerns of everyday wage-earners who overwhelmingly oppose these measures,” they write. “So-called Comprehensive Immigration Reform may be a good deal for big businesses who want to reduce labor costs, and it may be a good deal for progressive labor unions seeking new workers from abroad, but it’s an awful deal for US workers – including African-American and Hispanic communities enduring chronically high unemployment.”

The party’s big fear is that Democrats will succeed, with media help, in moving the conversation this year away from ObamaCare and towards “income inequality” issues like unemployment benefits, the minimum wage, and poverty. This week’s anti-poverty rhetoric from high-profile Republicans like Rubio and Paul Ryan is designed to counter that, of course. I can only assume that House conservatives, while ostensibly aiming their letter at the White House, are essentially warning Boehner that they’re prepared to make trouble on this point if it’s full speed ahead on amnesty. In theory that critique, of immigration reform as a blow to the working class, would hurt both parties since support for reform is bipartisan, but Democrats have more capital to spend on working-class issues because of their support for the welfare state. Having Republicans in the House attacking their own party for selling out workers would, shall we say, complicate the GOP’s message before the midterms. Does Boehner dare risk it? Yeah, probably. Skip to 4:20 below and watch the head of the Chamber of Commerce, which is spearheading the electoral effort against Boehner’s enemies in the tea party this year, predict that we’re going to get a bill. A choice quote from his most recent speech: “We’re determined to make 2014 the year that immigration reform is finally enacted. The chamber will pull out all the stops—through grassroots lobbying, communications, politics and partnerships with our friends in the union, and faith-based organizations, and law enforcement groups, and others to get this job done.”

And before you start celebrating the fact that Republicans will almost certainly rule out a path to citizenship in their nascent bill, read Mark Krikorian. You should know better by now than to believe that citizenship won’t assuredly follow once legalization is secured.


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The end.Thanks Boehner.

celtic warrior on January 9, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Boehner is willing to do the work real Americans won’t. Destroy the country.

pat on January 9, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Well, my principles tell me that if the GOP passes Obamnesty, I’ll be voting for something other than (R) in November.

Meople on January 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Alternate Headline: House GOP releases Plan to lose House, Senate, and White House for near future.

portlandon on January 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Well, my principles tell me that if the GOP passes Obamnesty, I’ll be voting for something other than (R) in November.

Meople on January 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM

At that point, there is nothing to vote for.

oldroy on January 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM

It’s not like we have a unemployment problem or something.

Oil Can on January 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Piecemeal reform instead of comprehensive; a heavy rhetorical emphasis on border security,

Meaningless while Dear Liar is in charge of border security.

rbj on January 9, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Alternate Headline: House GOP releases Plan to lose House, Senate, and White House for near future.

portlandon on January 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Chamber of Commerce to celebrate minimum wage increase

blammm on January 9, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Boehner is just not bright – UGH!

gophergirl on January 9, 2014 at 11:27 AM

My list of principles has one item:

1. Don’t reward bad behavior.

Or, if Boehner wants to put it more tactfully and politely:

1. Any person illegally residing in the US may not receive a better deal than a person legally residing here.

jwolf on January 9, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Hold on now, we need to keep everyone who currently has a seat in that seat to make sure the GOP gets a majority in both houses, then we can politely ask them to do what we want them to do.

Don’t rock the boat, the GOP has your back, pinkie swear.

Bishop on January 9, 2014 at 11:29 AM

But they’re going to pass something, once the primary deadline passes.

Solution: File for primary and withdraw once shamnesty doesn’t pass.

blammm on January 9, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Let’s just nominate Jeb for ’16′ and declare the Republic as founded is over.

celtic warrior on January 9, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Alternate Headline: House GOP releases Plan to lose House, Senate, and White House for near the foreseeable future.

portlandon on January 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM

FIFY

Wino on January 9, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Vamos a hacer cualquier cosa para ser reelegido!

repvoter on January 9, 2014 at 11:33 AM

There is a moment in time, known only to God, when the United States ceased to be a nation of laws and became a nation of men.

It’s probably a lot longer ago than most people realize; at least, among those who give it any thought.

Akzed on January 9, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Boehner is not totally stupid like McShame, he is corrupt. He has his hand out to whomever will grease it the most, as do most of those in office over two terms. They must ALL be voted OUT!

ConcealedKerry on January 9, 2014 at 11:33 AM

“Immigration isn’t the hill we want to fight for.”

Has anyone yet found something they’re willing to take a stand on? Not the budget. Not Obamacare repeal. Not immigration. Not unemployment extension. Not Fast and Furious. Not Benghazi.

Anyone? Anything?

Wino on January 9, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Will there be even one word on the “border”????

They are all liars.

stenwin77 on January 9, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Principle 1:

We will actually consider giving amnesty, but only AFTER an e-verify type system has been effectively implemented and the border has been fully secured, for at least 5 years. Even this is a major cave. But that’s it, no compromises on that, no amnesty until AFTER security!

anotherJoe on January 9, 2014 at 11:34 AM

This will shift all attention off of O-care in the press, they will cling to this like a life preserver, and Obama will laugh.

Thanks Boehner for the impeccably stupid timing.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on January 9, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Bienvenidos amigos, me llamo Juan Boehner….

hillsoftx on January 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

If you look at the latest Gallup Party Identity Survey, party identification by Americans went from 45-45 in 2011 to 47% Dems – 41% GOP in 2013 despite ObamaCare, Benghazi, etc. In fact GOP voter identification in 2013 was the lowest in 25 years.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx

Keep up the good work Priebus, Boehner, McCain, Cantor, Ryan and crew. Keep listening to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the Koch Brothers, Grover Norquist, etc. What the base thinks doesn’t matter.

bw222 on January 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Krikorian still thinks that no immigration bill will reach Obama’s desk this year. Hopefully he’s right.

My guess is they will pass some enforcement stuff and something like the Dream Act, which will then all die in the Senate.

Jon0815 on January 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

GOP Suicide Watch continues.

Talk about job creation and Obama’s failed economy: Pick up seats

Talk about amnesty: Lose seats

Try to compete with democrats on “income inequality”: Lose seats.

It doesn’t take a genius to figure this out… but most elected GOPer’s are not geniuses. I think every time a Dem brings up income inequality, the GOP should agree and state all gov’t pay should be restricted to the avg pay and benefit package of the avg. person. @ 60k/y. That would shut them up.

aniptofar on January 9, 2014 at 11:41 AM

At that point, there is nothing to vote for.

oldroy on January 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Yes, but there will be something to vote against.

If they Obamnesty, a vote for the opponent of the (R), even if that’s for (D), hurts the GOP more than staying home and not voting.

And believe me when I say, me voting for (D) would be a first in my life, but don’t think for a second I won’t do it.

Meople on January 9, 2014 at 11:41 AM

I’ve been wondering which route the GOP would pick to implode.
Could this be it?

gwelf on January 9, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Boehners principles: Money, more money, and the Chamber of Commerce. I know from growing up in a smaller city that the Chamber was an important organization, but it’s time that the roots of this corrupt organization are removed. Stop supporting your local chamber. It’s all about power and money.

mobydutch on January 9, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Get ready for the lies and strawmen.

Wigglesworth on January 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM

But GOP leadership said they surrendered on the budget to keep the focus on Obamacare.

Wigglesworth on January 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM

House GOP to release “principles” on immigration reform by the end of January

A Spelunking we will go, a Spelunking we will go…

OF COURSE the Spelunker Enabler of the House will “move forward” on immigration reform. It’s what he does…

Gohawgs on January 9, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Amnesty is about Cheap Labor for Big Businesses (Republican) and new voting bloc for political parties (Mainly Democrats:

Here’s how it’s going to play out:

1.GOP Establishment is going to come out and say ‘we’re going to give illegals legal status so that they can work and pay taxes but NO citizenship, don’t worry conservatives trust us, they ain’t going to be voting for like 30 years’

2. The democrats are going to go along with this and say it’s better than nothing but as soon as the elections are over then SUDDENLY they and la Raza will change tune about how unfair this is that they can’t vote and that we are treating illegals as slaves, 3/5 of a person stuff. They will demand citizenship now or in short order either through legislation or lawsuits

3. Wham! Conservatives wake up one day and full fledge amnesty is passed. Republicans in DC knew that the Dems would want and get immediate citizenships for illegals but they will claim that they were only out to provide green cards and come half way. Oops!

journeymike on January 9, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Would sending letters to local Chamber members telling them we will boycott them unless they become non members work?

frank on January 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Just from a strategic standpoint, this is stupid. If the GOPe wants the Senate so bad, why not wait until after winning it before they go and stab the base in the back heart with amnesty, er, “immigration reform”.

Of course, we are talking about the Party of Stupid.

Bitter Clinger on January 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM

You can guess what the principles will be: Piecemeal reform instead of comprehensive; a heavy rhetorical emphasis on border security, whatever that means in practice; no newly-created special path to citizenship (but conspicuous silence about letting legalized illegals apply for citizenship through existing channels down the road);

All lies except for the amnesty and massive increase in immigration. Oh and any legalization is a de facto path to citizenship. If the GOP caves on this then it is only a matter of time before they have to surrender on citizenship.

Wigglesworth on January 9, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Boehner is just not bright – UGH!

gophergirl on January 9, 2014 at 11:27 AM

He’s bright enough. He’s not being “tricked,” “hoodwinked,” or “confused.” His enemy is us, not the Democrats.

Doomberg on January 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Principles:

1. Cave into the Democrats so that Liberals will like us.

2. Cave into business so that we get campaign contributions regardless of what it does to America

3, Repeat 1 & 2

clippermiami on January 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

This isn’t S.O.P. before major legislative initiatives, is it? Typically the party just puts together a bill and unveils that.

No, SOP is to write massive legislation behind closed doors, reveal it in the middle of the night, demand a vote in 72 hours before anyone could possibly read it, continue to amend it, and then deem it passed when the Senate comes up with something even worse.

Fenris on January 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Both Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin have gone on the attack against amnesty. Levin is directly attacking the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Thomas Donohue. It’s wise making Donohue the face of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce because: 1) he isn’t a very likeable man and 2) Donohue probably represents what’s wrong with America and the corrupt political system better than anyone else.

bw222 on January 9, 2014 at 11:52 AM

#1. CLOSE……..the dang BORDER!

nothin else matters until THAT IMHO

Katfish on January 9, 2014 at 11:52 AM

House Speaker John A. Boehner and his Republican leadership team are preparing to release their principles

Release the Republican “strategists” instead.

lynncgb on January 9, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Mark Levin was going off on a group of very monied and powerful progressive based lobbyists that Boner and some of the other seemingly “vanished from sight”, “conservatives” have been working with under the radar. He stated, what seemed to be obvious, that these republicans are working on the success of their future bottom line and influence. They are not representing us..they are representing whichever brick in the wall that will benefit THEM….you know…con artists with tax dollar funded PR teams and bribe money.

Mimzey on January 9, 2014 at 11:54 AM

He’s bright enough. He’s not being “tricked,” “hoodwinked,” or “confused.” His enemy is us, not the Democrats.

Doomberg on January 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Very true. If you look at the Koch Brothers, who are strong supporters of amnesty, and it came down to making more money, they would side with George Soros rather than middle class America.

bw222 on January 9, 2014 at 11:54 AM

“These are my principles. If you don’t like them, I have others.”

-Groucho Marx

Wethal on January 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM

It’s going to be nice not having wait in line on election days anymore.

rogerb on January 9, 2014 at 11:59 AM

I despise Boehner. I really loathe the man. And if he passes amnesty, I will watch in glee as he loses his speakership. Too bad Pelosi will take over, but at this point is there really much of a difference?

Jack_Burton on January 9, 2014 at 11:59 AM

If they pass this, I’ll support raising the minimum wage to $15/hr, and I’ll support a 70% death tax on all estates over $3 million, with no loopholes.

Seriously. If this passes, then the fight is no longer about doing what is right for the country. It is about hurting our enemies, and business will have just declared war on working people.

Step back and think about it. Wages can be stable and make it possible for workers to make a decent living only as long as employers don’t get to warp the supply/demand ratio of labor. Rapid, massive immigration of cheap labor is stacking the deck.

So if they pass this, I’m ready to go to war with the xxxxxxxxxxxxs.

I’m not going third party if they pass this garbage. I’m going DEMOCRAT.

Business can burn.

fadetogray on January 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM

House GOP to release abandon “principles” on immigration reform by the end of January

GOP leadership has no principles as we understand them. I came to the conclusion awhile back.

He’s bright enough. He’s not being “tricked,” “hoodwinked,” or “confused.” His enemy is us, not the Democrats.

Doomberg on January 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Middle class, TEA party, Constitutionalists, conservatives = enemies of GOP establishment.

hawkeye54 on January 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Very true. If you look at the Koch Brothers, who are strong supporters of amnesty, and it came down to making more money, they would side with George Soros rather than middle class America.

bw222 on January 9, 2014 at 11:54 AM

What are you trying to say??

The Koch brothers are elected officials who’s duties are to represent us??
Thats nuts imo.

Mimzey on January 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Boner is as corrupt and stupid as everyone else in DC. They do not give a rat’s backside about working American citizens, because big business is paying them off.

With close to 30 million unemployed citizens importing all this new slave labor will destroy our middle class, because the bill not only converts an army of illegals into slave workers, it also increases the number of “guest workers” on H1 and H2 visas by large amounts.

H1′s and H2 visa holders compete with US High tech workers for a fraction of the pay.

What is hysterical in this are companies like Apple and Microsoft complaining they can’t find enough qualified people. My response to that is call “Bullshit!” You mean to tell me that out of 30 million unemployed Americans, you can’t find qualified people? You’re LYING or you’re incompetent.

Look up the works of Norm Matloff and other regarding the Myth of the lack of high tech workers.

If Boner continues down this road, I will resume posting the embarrassing parts of the amnesty bill, especially those bits showing him and everyone else in DC for the LIARS they are.

If everyone took a few minutes to do that, we just might be able to put those DC turds back in their place.

dogsoldier on January 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM

And if he passes amnesty, I will watch in glee as he loses his speakership.

I’m thinkin’ its not “if”, but “when”. Meh, so he loses his speakership. I’m sure that’s gonna really bruise his self-esteem.

hawkeye54 on January 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM

If they pass this, I’ll support raising the minimum wage to $15/hr, and I’ll support a 70% death tax on all estates over $3 million, with no loopholes.
Seriously. If this passes, then the fight is no longer about doing what is right for the country. It is about hurting our enemies, and business will have just declared war on working people.
Step back and think about it. Wages can be stable and make it possible for workers to make a decent living only as long as employers don’t get to warp the supply/demand ratio of labor. Rapid, massive immigration of cheap labor is stacking the deck.
So if they pass this, I’m ready to go to war with the xxxxxxxxxxxxs.
I’m not going third party if they pass this garbage. I’m going DEMOCRAT.
Business can burn.
fadetogray on January 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM

This

frank on January 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Secure the border.
Enforce current laws.
Separated families: you broke the law, take them with you. No, you cannot get WIC in your home country.
Cut freebies.
Clean up visa system to track overstays sand kick them out.
Immigration system, we want best and brightest.
Grow at least one, Boehner.

AllahsNippleHair on January 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM

If Boner continues down this road…..

dogsoldier on January 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM

There are no if’s. He has become a true believer having his eyes opened by his new power.
His crying days are over.

Mimzey on January 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM

It probably won’t include a path to citizenship as that’d be too politically toxic to conservatives

I could not care less about the ‘path to citizenship.’ I care about the workers they are displacing and the babies who will be voting in 18 years. I care about the culture they are erasing and replacing.

fadetogray on January 9, 2014 at 12:19 PM

I don’t understand any of this. It’s like these people were visited by alines or something. We already have the most open and generous immigration system on the planet. If it isn’t good enough, why then isn’t Mexico’s less generous immigration system going to go under reform? If it’s good for us, why isn’t this good for Mexico to do also?

oldroy on January 9, 2014 at 12:26 PM

A record number of American citizens are unemployed or out of the job market. Wages are depressed and people are struggling with part-time jobs and anything that can supplement their income.

So what’s the Republicans plan? Assist Democrats in pushing an agenda that consists of helping people who illegally entered the country (note- not legal entrants), flood the country with unskilled workers to support a big business lobby and in the process demagogue the issue by attacking Republican Party members (and voters who are largely Independents now) that disagree with them.

Sounds like a winning strategy to me- no?

Gee and I am not even what you would call a “Tea Party” member. Just a reasonable, thinking person.

Do you really think I want to help this current leadership gain a Senate Majority? Well, no. Heck no.

By the way, if you business is a Chamber of Commerce member don’t expect my support. I won’t help finance this stupidity.

Marcus Traianus on January 9, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Hey Allah, care to tell us where TownHall falls in this debate? Care to tell us where you stand?

I have my guess.

DanMan on January 9, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Sad that businesses and their lobbying groups like the Chamber have become so frustrated by the quality/value of lower skilled American workers, even in a time of record unemployment, that they see opening the immigration floodgates as a crucial issue, even if it is suicidal in the longer term for their natural GOP allies.

But as a business owner, I can sympathize somewhat with their plight. There is a stark difference between the work ethics of your average immigrant (legal or illegal) and that of your average 18-35 year old spoiled, entitled, Obama-voting, stoner, slacker citizen.

cool breeze on January 9, 2014 at 12:33 PM

There is a stark difference between the work ethics of your average immigrant (legal or illegal) and that of your average 18-35 year old spoiled, entitled, Obama-voting, stoner, slacker citizen.

until they get a green card, then the abogados coach them into bennie utopia

DanMan on January 9, 2014 at 12:34 PM

We already have the most open and generous immigration system on the planet. If it isn’t good enough

No, it isn’t good enough for our Political and Big Business elites. Too many independents in terms of politics and personal wealth. What is needed is millions more poorly educated people to both compete with citizens for scarce jobs at the lowest possible wage, a deluge of recipients of redistributed taxpayer revenues and an insurmountable bloc of voters loyal to one party in particular who welcome them in and provide job and benefit opportunities.

Sooner than later, our individual personal wealth (IRAs, 401k’s et al) will have to be seized by the fed to pay for all the costs involved in redistribution of resources to our newly minted and less financially able citizens and their families and to keep them beholdin’ to a a particular political party.

It matters not if the GOP becomes extinct over this matter. The DC elites will gladly switch parties officially to retain their place in politics. They have more in common with the dems than the GOP base anyway.

hawkeye54 on January 9, 2014 at 12:40 PM

There comes a point when every individual is compelled to draw the line on how much they are willing to compromise. For me, the GOP passing amnesty in any form or quantity, further eroding the rule of law and betraying the citizens and legal immigrants of this nation, is crossing that line.

I will never vote for any member of the political class who has a hand in passing yet another amnesty for those who have willfully shattered federal immigration law.

Want my vote? Stand up for the citizens of this nation and the rule of law.

thatsafactjack on January 9, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Ruling class war is on against the serf/citizen class

……and the republican leadership is traitorous to this nations borders!

No support for these clowns.

PappyD61 on January 9, 2014 at 12:43 PM

It matters not if the GOP becomes extinct over this matter. The DC elites will gladly switch parties officially to retain their place in politics. They have more in common with the dems than the GOP base anyway.

hawkeye54 on January 9, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Hold on a minute there. Are you saying that the Republican party elites like McCain, Rubio, Boehner, Ryan Etc. don’t really believe in any kind of conservative principles? They are just on the take? I’m shocked.

It’s time to just tune out. Might as well spend my energy, time, and money elsewhere. Screw politics. We aren’t represented in any way.

To think we threw away a perfectly good relationship with the British just to end up with this mess.

oldroy on January 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM

until they get a green card, then the abogados coach them into bennie utopia

DanMan on January 9, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Seems logical, but we have found that legal immigrants (the only kind we hire) retain much higher work ethics (on average) for many, many years. For the record, we do hire plenty of citizens, but it is also true that we have noticed that recent legal immigrants are a much better bet.

cool breeze on January 9, 2014 at 12:46 PM

May all the amnesty traitors of the US legal citizens and the children go directly to Hell.

That includes commerce, Fox, Rove, Hume and Rubio et company.

Burn slowly, you charlatanic traitors.

Schadenfreude on January 9, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Alternate Headline: House GOP releases Plan to lose House, Senate, and White House for near future.

portlandon on January 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Your comments are always perfect.

Pelosi will be the deserved Speaker if amnesty passes.

Jan. 2015 she’ll be the happy witch again.

Schadenfreude on January 9, 2014 at 12:48 PM

There must be space aliens in the Capital basement. Ack Ack. No sense whatsoever to any of these things we are seeing these days.

oldroy on January 9, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Cool. Boehner is trying to guarantee permanent minority status. On the plus side, I can blow a police whistle into the telephone when the GOP calls me for money instead of simply hanging up on them.

Physics Geek on January 9, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Very true. If you look at the Koch Brothers, who are strong supporters of amnesty, and it came down to making more money, they would side with George Soros rather than middle class America.

bw222 on January 9, 2014 at 11:54 AM

What are you trying to say??

The Koch brothers are elected officials who’s duties are to represent us??
Thats nuts imo.

Mimzey on January 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM

I think I misread your point. My response was convoluted.
Sorry.

Mimzey on January 9, 2014 at 1:03 PM

…he’s a slimy slut!

KOOLAID2 on January 9, 2014 at 1:08 PM

I think this push by the GOP for amnesty, betraying the citizens and legal immigrants of this nation and undermining the rule of law, is tantamount, in political terms, to the GOP committing suicide. It will ensure that the GOP does not garner a majority in the Senate and, and possibly even cost them the majority they enjoy in the House.

With the unemployment rate at persistently high levels and laws, including federal laws, increasingly being openly ignored and even defied ( see Colorado with their new recreational marijuana laws, sanctuary cities, and the state of California’s refusal to hand apprehended illegal aliens over to federal authorities, and a President who blatantly legislates from his desk in direct violation of separation of powers mandated in the constitution, etc), a border that remains criminally porous, and the federal government refusing to afford the citizens and legal immigrants of this nation the protections that immigration law was designed to afford from the predation of illegal aliens, an amnesty for those who have willfully shattered federal immigration law is a rank betrayal of the American citizenry and legal immigrants waiting in line around the world to come to this nation legally.

The repayment the GOP, or any member of the political class, deserves for such a betrayal is to be removed from office at the next election. No politician who demonstrates such a complete lack of regard for the citizens of this nation and the rule of law should be allowed to remain a politician.

thatsafactjack on January 9, 2014 at 1:09 PM

You should know better by now than to believe that citizenship won’t assuredly follow once legalization is secured.

It wouldn’t matter if it wasn’t. 30-50 million newly legalized residents will have the power to influence legislation whether they can vote or not. Heck, they’re doing it now and they aren’t even legal. In fact, politicians are already putting the needs and wants of illegals over those of Americans who CAN vote!

xblade on January 9, 2014 at 1:19 PM

This is the perfect year for the rise of TEA PARTY CANDIDATES.

I will not vote for any incumbent who pushes this monstrosity through.

Stop and think about how many principles the GOP is betraying, what exactly, are the planks of their platform anymore???

KMC1 on January 9, 2014 at 1:26 PM

These politicians want the funds from Silicon Valley to keep rolling in thus the push for more H1B visas
To suppress the wages of US STEM workers
Disgusting

ginaswo on January 9, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Sixteen House Republicans led by Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) are demanding President Barack Obama get unemployed Americans back to work before granting amnesty to illegal aliens or bringing unprecedented levels of new immigrants to take jobs away from American workers.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/08/16-House-Republicans-to-Obama-Amnesty-would-represent-the-final-economic-blow-for-American-workers

Wiping my tear, are these my heroes today?

In addition to Brooks, Reps. Kerry Bentivolio (R-MI), Lou Barletta (R-PA), Tom Cotton (R-AR), Walter Jones (R-NC), Phil Gingrey (R-GA), Michele Bachmann (R-MN), John Fleming (R-LA), Steve King (R-IA), Ted Yoho (R-FL), Joe Wilson (R-SC), Steve Stockman (R-TX), Lamar Smith (R-TX), Steven Palazzo (R-MS), Mike Rogers (R-AL) and Jeff Duncan (R-SC), each signed the letter.

Cotton is significant because he is a U.S. Senate candidate against Sen. Mark Pryor (D-AR),

Fleuries on January 9, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Sixteen House Republicans led by Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) are demanding President Barack Obama get unemployed Americans back to work before granting amnesty to illegal aliens or bringing unprecedented levels of new immigrants to take jobs away from American workers.

Fleuries

They should have sent that letter to Boehner, seeing as how amnesty is totally in his hands now.

xblade on January 9, 2014 at 2:06 PM

The plan will include legal status of illegal aliens allowing them to work. Plan B is for the elites to then whine about those poor people who contribute to society but aren’t allowed to vote. Then, will come the amnesty vote. It’s the “frog in the boiling water” strategy.

The good news…if they put their plan on the table, there will be time to primary the RINOs before the election.

Why do I feel like our collective intelligence is about to be insulted again?

cajunpatriot on January 9, 2014 at 2:12 PM

I think Boehner needs to spend more of his time answering what he knew about Benghazi and when and if indeed he is not doing everything in his power because he is guilty, too. If you are going to act like a Democrat we need to treat you like a Democrat. Pelosi knew about enhanced interrogation because she was speaker of the house and was briefed. And you were briefed about Benghazi.

magicbeans on January 9, 2014 at 2:21 PM

To think we threw away a perfectly good relationship with the British just to end up with this mess.

oldroy on January 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Meh, even if we’d kept that relationship, seeing as what’s happening in the UK, we’d be headed for a quicker path to Sharia and dhimitude.

Losing proposition, either way.

hawkeye54 on January 9, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Apparently the Republicans do not need my vote.

I will file this information away for future use… say around the time of the next election. Oddly enough, no amount of money from the Chamber of Commerce spent on commercials will change my mind. Imagine that.

Voluble on January 9, 2014 at 3:26 PM

So how many calls have you folks made? How many letters have you written? Anyone a member of numbersusa? Done any of these?
Or is threatening to vote democrat here the extent of the effort? Yeah, that’s not going to do anything.

V7_Sport on January 9, 2014 at 4:24 PM

House Speaker John A. Boehner and his Republican leadership team are preparing to release their principles

Old news. I think Boner and his toadies released their principles quite some time ago. Released ‘em, waved goodbye to ‘em, and never looked back.

bofh on January 9, 2014 at 4:38 PM

I repeat: IF the GOP proceeds with amnesty (using whatever variety of words they chose), I’ll change my voter registration to Independent and be done with the “Republican” assignment.

It’s the least I can do to separate from this madness, if this madness does, indeed, continue to flare.

Lourdes on January 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM

It is hard to believe how stupid the GOP leadership is.

I’m an immigration reform supporter and there is no damn way they should touch this third rail until they can build a consensus around it at the 2016 convention. Americans are out of work, tired of ID group pandering, exhausted by “special deals in law” for favored parties, convinced this immigration reform is a corrupt bargain with big companies who want cheap foreign labor, and for all these reasons want nothing to do with this “reform”.

Hey Republicans! Just don’t do it,

MTF on January 9, 2014 at 6:52 PM

I was born and raised a Democrat, and I’m not talking the casual, vote Democrat on Presidential elections every four years kind of Democrat. I mean stuff campaign envelopes and walk precincts for my union business agent Dad when I’m 10 years old kind of Democrat.

Dad always said the GOP could sling a good line of bull, but when push came to shove they were really all about screwing the working man to benefit big business.

Over the last 50 years I gradually came to realize how vile/ignorant most Democrat politicians were, and that many of the things the GOP was accused of doing to “help the rich and rob the working man” were actually the best thing to do for the working man. Throw in Democrat racism in the form of ‘affirmative action,’ and their obsession with growing government and their willingness to tax screw the middle class to pay for it, and it seemed to be no contest. Why would any working person vote Democrat unless they belonged to a ‘victim’ group or were being paid by the government?

Since I started voting GOP 30 years ago my family have all shaken their heads sadly and in some disbelief at my naivete. “They are fooling you, Fade. They will screw regular Americans hard whenever they get the chance.”

Well, there you go. When it really, really matters the GOPe wants to keep flooding the country with slave labor.

I would rather Democrats and Republicans who are fed up with our parties unite in a new Party dedicated to defending the Constitution and using the 16th Amendment to savage the rich, but if that isn’t going to happen, then I will vote Democrat as the least worst choice.

And that is not a threat. It is the only rational response.

fadetogray on January 9, 2014 at 7:12 PM

This Chamber of Commerce dude reminds of something Marx said about a capitalist willing to sell a rope.

thuja on January 9, 2014 at 9:45 PM

The good news…if they put their plan on the table, there will be time to primary the RINOs before the election.

Why do I feel like our collective intelligence is about to be insulted again?

cajunpatriot on January 9, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Did you miss the part where they are not going to push amnesty through until after the filing deadline? Everyone who has no Tea Party opponent already will be “clear to support amnesty.” It will be too late to have an opponent file after they pass the “destroy the middle class pay scale” bill.

Wino on January 9, 2014 at 9:52 PM

A simple way for Republicans to hit ‘em where they ain’t on immigration AND jobs AND income inequality: tie immigration rates to unemployment and job creation numbers. Set the immigration rate to, say, 25% of the job creation rate.

That will get Obamacrats focused on jobs and protect citizen workers from glutted job markets and the resultant low wages.

kd6rxl on January 9, 2014 at 11:59 PM

fadetogray on January 9, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Good post, Fade, but there is no reason to think Democrats or Republican voters want what these guys are cooking up. These plans are unpopular on both sides.

Warning to politicians: if you want to be elected again, step away from the immigration rail!

Few people think that this is our biggest problem and more importantly, after the Obamacare fiasco, government can clearly not be trusted with another economy-busting policy disaster.

So, to Zuckerberg and his internet giants, tough java beans! And to La Raza and their coalition of professional racists, vaya con dios! And to moderates, especially conservative gringos and liberal yanquis, please understand that neither of these groups will vote for you, no matter what you do.

virgo on January 10, 2014 at 1:51 AM