War on coal, phase two: EPA finally publishes rules for new power plants

posted at 3:21 pm on January 8, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

It’s already been three months since the Obama administration debuted their draft proposal detailing what is, for all currently practicable purposes, a ban on the construction of coal-fired power plants (and even that reveal was the result of still another months-long delay as the administration struggled to formulate the rules in a way that could both survive the inevitable legal challenges while not restricting greenhouse-gas emissions so stringently as to disqualify even the construction of new natural gas plants — overzealous, much?). The rule finally hit the pages of the Federal Register today, opening up the formal 60-day period for comments — of which I am certain there will be a veritable deluge, because coal country has been in an uproar over the incoming rules. Via HuffPo:

The Environmental Protection Agency will finally publish notice of new proposed rules limiting greenhouse gas emissions from new power plants on Wednesday, more than three months after announcing the rules last September.

The rules are scheduled to be published in the Federal Register on Jan. 8. The lag time between the announcement of the rules on Sept. 20 and their publication has prompted conjecture as to the reason for the delay, from prosaic possibilities like the government shutdown in October to more significant ones, like potential problems discovered in the legal underpinnings for the rules.

The draft rules are the first ever to limit greenhouse gas emissions from power plants. The rules require that new power plants be built with carbon capture and storage capabilities if they burn coal, or that they burn lower-emission fuels like natural gas. The rule has drawn criticism from coal industry supporters who say that carbon capture technology is not sufficiently developed at this point to be viable.

Of course, this is happening out front of the introduction of emissions regulations on existing power plants due to come out this June (although I’d probably count on those being delayed, too), because what reasonable administration could ever simply be content with the hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of regulatory compliance costs they have already imposed upon our struggling economy? It’s all a part of their munificent ambitions to maneuver around that spitefully obstructionist Congress and work their climate-change will via executive action. They don’t really expect this round of regulations on new power plants in and of itself to lower carbon emissions much, because a good deal of the recent investment in the industry has been going toward the cleaner natural-gas plants thriving on the ongoing fracking boom — but the Obama administration is actively assuring that coal’s affordable, reliable energy source won’t be available if the market should ever swing the other way for whatever reason. Reasons like, say, the ones undermining Germany’s misbegotten quest to speedily foist mostly renewable energy forms upon the masses and resulting in the most coal use they’ve had since 1990. Woops, via the Financial Times:

Brown coal electricity production in Germany rose last year to its highest level since 1990, despite the country’s campaign to shift to green sources of energy.

Germany, which is the world’s largest brown coal miner, last year used the fuel – also known as lignite – to generate 162bn kilowatt-hours of electricity, according to EnergieBilanz, an electricity industry association. That is up from 161bn kWh in 2012 and the highest total since the 171bn kWh recorded in 1990, when east Germany’s ex-Communist plants were still in full flow.


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That guy sure looks like an old lesbian.

jukin3 on January 8, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Our guys always pretend to be worried about the “grid”, I don’t think it can be run on the Sun and the wind. These guys will keep going until we have major outages. They never seem to see the unintended consequences of their “good” deeds.

Cindy Munford on January 8, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Plot twist: Gina McCarthy is a coal miner’s daughter.

Marcola on January 8, 2014 at 3:31 PM

HotAir, seriously.

Can you stop putting pics of the Western Regional Sales
Director for Caterpillar on here….

ToddPA on January 8, 2014 at 3:32 PM

China won’t mind buying our coal. EPA is now regulating fireplaces too. Does every EPA, Energy etc head always look like a weirdo of some sort? Must be a prereq for this administration.

major dad on January 8, 2014 at 3:32 PM

That guy sure looks like an old lesbian.

jukin3 on January 8, 2014 at 3:29 PM

I think he claims to be 1/64th Lesbian Lakota.

BL@KBIRD on January 8, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Quotes showing the despite the inconclusive science propaganda of the warmists, the squawking Chicken Littles are hellbent on totally reworking the world into their globalized de-industrialized anti-libertarian utopia dystopia, and are willing to forcibly silence and even kill any opposition:
“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” -Maurice Strong, ex UNEP Director
“Now is the time to draw up a master plan for sustainable growth and world development based on global allocation of [limited] resources and a new global economic system. ” -Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point
“However it is achieved, a thorough reorganisation of production, consumption and distribution will be the end result of humanity’s response to the climate emergency.” -Walden Bello, leftist director of Focus on the Global South
“It’s time for climate change deniers to have their opinions forcibly tattooed on their bodies.” -Richard Glover, Environmental Activist
“[I propose climate sceptics be exposed] to high concentrations of either carbon dioxide or some other colourless, odourless gas – say, carbon monoxide.” -Jill Singer, Australian Ecojournalist
“It is clear that 1998 did not match the record warmth of 1934.” -James Hansen, NASA
“The mismatch between rising greenhouse-gas emissions and not-rising temperatures [15 year temperature stall] is among the biggest puzzles in climate science just now.” -The Economist, April 2013

anotherJoe on January 8, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Who’s that guy?

Schadenfreude on January 8, 2014 at 3:38 PM

They never seem to see the unintended consequences of their “good” deeds.

Cindy Munford on January 8, 2014 at 3:31 PM

That assumes they don’t intend to ruin our power grid….

dentarthurdent on January 8, 2014 at 3:39 PM

But didn’t Obama say that extending unemployment benefits would allow the lady to turn up her thermostat and create a ton of jobs? What if she turns up the thermostat and nothing happens because of the EPA? They really need work on how to interweave lies.

teejk on January 8, 2014 at 3:39 PM

There is no such thing as a greenhouse gas because the atmo-sphere has no glass house. German physicists Gerhard Gerlich and
Ralf D Tscheuschner proved this in their classic paper, “Falsifica-tion of The Atmospheric CO
2
Greenhouse Effects Within The
Frame of Physics,” International Journal of Modern Physics B, v23,
n03, January 6, 2009, pp. 275-364. Free download at .

Murphy9 on January 5, 2014 at 10:26 PM

Murphy9 on January 8, 2014 at 3:41 PM

China won’t mind buying our coal. EPA is now regulating fireplaces too.

They don’t seem to mind buying as much of our resources and real estate as they can.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 3:41 PM

What a handsome fellow.

John the Libertarian on January 8, 2014 at 3:42 PM

They never seem to see the unintended consequences of their “good” deeds.

Cindy Munford on January 8, 2014 at 3:31 PM

That assumes they don’t intend to ruin our power grid….

dentarthurdent on January 8, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Those who make the decisions are well aware of the consequences that will be brought upon us by their “good” deeds, which I assure you are quite intentional.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM


Please don’t comment,..a heads up!

Reid on now,..on U.I Extention,
er,..was,..Durban is on:

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/

canopfor on January 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Looking forward to the first massive grid failure in the Northeast when coal plants get wound down, in weather similar to that recently experienced.

Those of us in the Southwest will send blankets. To the local RNC and Club for Growth offices.
And trays of ice cubes, to the regional offices of the EPA.

orangemtl on January 8, 2014 at 3:44 PM

I think I’ll get ahead of the curve and buy my Yurt now.

trigon on January 8, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Capacity is shrinking because demand is cratering. If you don’t have a vibrant economy with a broad manufacturing base, you don’t need capacity.

Obamanomics.

Murphy9 on January 8, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Say Hello to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell!

Thanks Obama.

rockmom on January 8, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Canary in the Coal Mine.
We are going to be in deep shiite in the future and it will last a LONG time after Obumbles, a.k.a. King Putt and is minions of mendacity are forced from office. They will leave sleeper agents in every branch of government. To say nothing of the Federal Courts.
The problem that will cripple us is the fact that it takes many years to design and a decade to bring a base power plant On Line.
Find funding. Arrange loans, and bond financing to pay for the design and development of a modern fuel combustion based power station. Again working against totally uncooperative agencies making regulations that change the rules year afer year with NO LEGISLATIVE OVERSITE.
Few in government understand or give a crap about the difficulties of undertaking and accomplishing such a project. To say nothing that it must be done over and over again hundreds of times to satisfy the future needs of energy production for our country.
From the standpoint of the EPA they are and intend to remain potent adversaries to the power industry. WE will suffer immense difficulties and dimunition of quality of life becase of Obowmao and is reign. And the manure spreading media doesn’t have a friggin’ clue as to their contributions to our decline.

Missilengr on January 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM

dentarthurdent on January 8, 2014 at 3:39 PM

I usually think they are stupid rather than evil. It’s the optimist in me.

Cindy Munford on January 8, 2014 at 3:51 PM

China won’t mind buying our coal. EPA is now regulating fireplaces too. Does every EPA, Energy etc head always look like a weirdo of some sort? Must be a prereq for this administration.

major dad on January 8, 2014 at 3:32 PM

We are going to make every attempt to afford a woodstove an unexpected huge expense, I want alternatives…gotta have heat.

Get em while you can.

MontanaMmmm on January 8, 2014 at 3:56 PM

I usually think they are stupid rather than evil. It’s the optimist in me.

Cindy Munford on January 8, 2014 at 3:51 PM

My opinion of those at the top are that they are more evil than stupid, or at least equally both. They do have more than a fair amount of stupid within their ranks though. As long as the stupid suits their needs its all good, though.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 3:57 PM

There is an entire backup power-plant which runs on fuel oil dedicated solely to various government buildings in D.C.

When the brown and blackouts occur you can rest assured that your liberal betters will still have air 24/7 conditioning and heated floors in their private bathrooms.

Bishop on January 8, 2014 at 3:58 PM

It’s Pat!

bluegill on January 8, 2014 at 4:00 PM

I seem to remember someone who was running for President saying something about electricity prices necessarily skyrocketing.

Is this the first and only truthful thing Obama has said?

Johnnyreb on January 8, 2014 at 4:04 PM

wonder how the solar and windmills fought against the polar vortex this week.
seems like there could be a good scyfy movie there, windmills circling about the vortex (ala sharknado sharks) receiving control commands from the solar panels as they try to blow the vortex back….

somehow I bet a lot of baseload stations ran silently along as they always do.

dmacleo on January 8, 2014 at 4:07 PM

We are going to make every attempt to afford a woodstove an unexpected huge expense, I want alternatives…gotta have heat.

Get em while you can.

I expect wood stoves will eventually be banned if they prove to be in high demand and use as alternative to coal and oil. I’m thinkin’ goat manure may be the fuel source of the future to use as we huddle up to keep warm, not being allowed access to any other means.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Once coal is eliminated

We will all freeze

Thanks EPA

BigSven on January 8, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Once coal is eliminated

We will all freeze

Thanks EPA

BigSven on January 8, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Not all of us. The elite will be nice and cozy at our expense. The rest are completely expendable. Whats several million frozen and starving bodies anyway. Just a statistic.

Stalin, Mao et al not available for comment.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 4:12 PM

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Most likely, they used to call them Cow chips during our other depression, but you know too much methane, can we burn Obama’s Kobe beef emissions?

? How is the EPA going to ban Forest fires ?

MontanaMmmm on January 8, 2014 at 4:13 PM

I want the Manchin quote. Give me the Manchin quote.

I DEMAND DEMOCRATIC SENATOR MANCHIN SPEAK NOW.

M240H on January 8, 2014 at 4:13 PM

How is the EPA going to ban Forest fires ?

MontanaMmmm on January 8, 2014 at 4:13 PM

The EPA doesn’t want to ban forest fires, they want more of them. See more forest fires prove Global Warming….Geesh people, you seriously need to pay attention…I cant do everything here.

Johnnyreb on January 8, 2014 at 4:16 PM

The new EPA mandated wood burning stoves and heaters needm electric power?

These wood burners probably require electricity to do their supposed “low emission” bullshittery….what happens to rural trailer dwellers, that use wood, when it is -10F in Alabama…and the power grid shuts down because the windmill turbines can’t handle the load requirements?

BigSven on January 8, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Expect more of this in the future. From my email today

Duke Energy Progress asks customers to conserve electricity for the next 24 hours

As temperatures across the nation continue to plummet to historic lows, Duke Energy Progress officials are asking the company’s customers to conserve power during the next 24 hours, as extreme temperatures continue.

tmitsss on January 8, 2014 at 4:17 PM

I expect wood stoves will eventually be banned if they prove to be in high demand and use as alternative to coal and oil. I’m thinkin’ goat manure may be the fuel source of the future to use as we huddle up to keep warm, not being allowed access to any other means.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 4:08 PM

It’s a little known fact that liberals, properly pegged out in the sun and allowed to desiccate for at least 72 hours, will provide a reliable and sure-burning fuel source. If you stack them correctly they take up less space than sheets of corrugated cardboard.

Bishop on January 8, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Of course, this is happening out front of the introduction of emissions regulations on existing power plants due to come out this June

June? FIVE months before the 2014 mid-terms? I doubt it.

GarandFan on January 8, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Newt sporting a new look for 2014?

hillsoftx on January 8, 2014 at 4:20 PM

The wife’s uncle built a wood burning heater by taking 2 1/4″plates,1 for the firebox and 1 for the outer shell with an inch gap between them.He packed the gap with river bank sand.It uses a log about 3 inches in diameter and once the sand is heated it stays warm for hours.Best heater I ever saw and uses very little wood with a little smoke output.FYI for when the grid goes dead.

docflash on January 8, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Bishop on January 8, 2014 at 4:18 PM

… if you can stand the smell.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 8, 2014 at 4:22 PM

It’s a little known fact that liberals, properly pegged out in the sun and allowed to desiccate for at least 72 hours, will provide a reliable and sure-burning fuel source. If you stack them correctly they take up less space than sheets of corrugated cardboard.

Bishop on January 8, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Sounds good……but be sure to make sure the area in which they are used is well ventilated. I’d imagine that they’d tend to stink up the place.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Bishop on January 8, 2014 at 4:18 PM

With the added bonus of getting high from the pot left in the left over’s as well as the “incense” of Patchouli.
Y

MontanaMmmm on January 8, 2014 at 4:22 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 8, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Looks like we had the same thoughts.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 4:22 PM

“It’s not really fair that Americans have a functioning power grid. I can fundamentally transform that by executive fiat.”
King Barky the Liar

jukin3 on January 8, 2014 at 4:24 PM

consensus.

MontanaMmmm on January 8, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Looks like we had the same thoughts.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Heh. A three-fer, even … though MontanaMmmmm took the optimistic view.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 8, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Good luck with your wood burning stoves once the EPA’s drone fleet gets fully mobilized.

Murphy9 on January 8, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Why do so many lesbians look like men?

bluegill on January 8, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Heh. A three-fer, even … though MontanaMmmmm took the optimistic view.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 8, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Yeah, maybe too optimistic. I mean, as a result of the burning, the bodily chemical reaction will probably negate, if not completely overwhelm, the effect of any remaining patchouli.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Good luck with your wood burning stoves once the EPA’s drone fleet gets fully mobilized.

Murphy9 on January 8, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Maybe if we do what Bishop suggested it will act as a cloaking device.

MontanaMmmm on January 8, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Why do so many lesbians look like men?

bluegill on January 8, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Jealousy?

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Why do so many lesbians look like men?

bluegill on January 8, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Bull-dy.kes want to look like bulls. That way they don’t have to hand out cards.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM

the effect of any remaining patchouli.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 4:28 PM

I wasn’t being optimistic, that stuff makes me ill.
Not figuratively.

MontanaMmmm on January 8, 2014 at 4:31 PM

It’s not really fair that Americans have a functioning power grid. I can fundamentally transform that by executive fiat.”
King Barky the Liar

jukin3 on January 8, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Being that we’ve exploited the poor of the word and have greedily consumed far more than our fair share of natural resources for so long, we don’t deserve to have one at all.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 4:32 PM

We gotta stop these idiots destroyers of America.

davidk on January 8, 2014 at 4:33 PM

In SF they send code enforcement nazis around on Christmas to tell people to stop burning wood in their fireplaces.

I kid you not.

I curse my new EPA-approved furnace every time it goes on and wakes me up from sleep with its super duper fan. I miss my real furnace so much!

PattyJ on January 8, 2014 at 4:36 PM

I wasn’t being optimistic, that stuff makes me ill.
Not figuratively.

MontanaMmmm on January 8, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Me too. With legal pot dispensaries here in Los Angeles, there are many riders on Metro trains which reek of the stuff. It is a sickening odor in a confined environment, ten time worse than the smell tobacco smoke.

I also never realized how many 20-30 somethings were in such dire need of requiring prescriptive medical marijuana either.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Judging from the lead picture, this guy’s barber does a good job.

oldroy on January 8, 2014 at 4:38 PM

She is a real deal anti-human reprobate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpIfvkLUiuE

Hell bent on regulating what they could never do with legislation.

President Barack Obama is set to nominate Gina McCarthy, who currently leads the Environmental Protection Agency’s air and radiation office, to head the EPA. McCarthy has a history of speaking about heavy regulation and control to combat climate related issues.

On May 1, 2010, McCarthy gave the keynote at the Green Education Celebration at UMass Boston and said she didn’t go to Washington to “sit around and wait for congressional action” and that she never has and never planned to in the future to tackle climate change.

“I love listening to Sen. Kerry. I love listening to Congressman Markey, because they talk funny and they talk real. They tell it like it is and they make things happen. I am so proud that we have them in office so they can push us to face reality that one needs to face and to move forward with legislation that is absolutely essential.

“But I will tell you that I didn’t go to Washington to sit around and wait for congressional action. Never done that before, and don’t plan to in the future. EPA’s administrator Lisa Jackson didn’t sit around so that she could look at the law and decide it was inconvenient to follow it. Or listen to the science and say, ‘You know, that might get me into trouble, so I ain’t going where the science tells me.’ What she actually said when she got there is that I’m going to listen to the law and I’m going where science is driving us, and that is why the EPA put forward just last December what we call the endangerment finding,” McCarthy said.

Murphy9 on January 8, 2014 at 4:41 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7UDw9w2Wl0

“Now, let’s talk a little bit about carbon pollution standard for new power plants which I like to call “future power plants” so there is a bit of a distinction and really what we’re talking about regulating is future power plants. As you know, in March of 2012, EPA announced the first ever carbon pollution standard for future fossil fuel fired power plants. Power plants, as you know account for about 40 percent of all carbon dioxide emissions, that’s why we are paying attention to power plants. They are actually the single largest source of industrial greenhouse gas emissions in the United States.

The proposed standard would ensure that future power plants use modern technology so they limit their carbon pollution. The proposal includes a flexible compliance program to facilitate the use of carbon capture storage and technology by future coal and petroleum power plants. Now, the common sense proposal reflects the ongoing trend in the power sector- to build cleaner plants that take advantage of modern technologies and fuels that are produced in the United States, and it would ensure that current progress continues toward a cleaner, safer, and modern power supply system.”She continued, “The agency is currently reading the one or two million comments we have received on that proposal- we actually have received over two million comments on that proposal. We are giving each of those comments their due considerations so we make forward that we move forward with this rule, that we get this rule right.”

Murphy9 on January 8, 2014 at 4:41 PM

It’s a little known fact that liberals, properly pegged out in the sun and allowed to desiccate for at least 72 hours, will provide a reliable and sure-burning fuel source. If you stack them correctly they take up less space than sheets of corrugated cardboard.

Bishop on January 8, 2014 at 4:18 PM

You’ve got it all wrong. Figures – you backwards inbred hick. Cut off the sun drying period to just 72 hours and your stack will start to stink in just a couple of days.

oldroy on January 8, 2014 at 4:42 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZO6v-0OT7o

UMass Boston alumna Gina McCarthy, ’76, assistant administrator of the Environmental Protection Agencys Air and Radiation Office, delivers a keynote address at the Green Education for the Next Generation celebration at UMass Boston on May 1, 2010.

McCarthy shared the latest thinking on federal climate policy and its effect on businesses.

Murphy9 on January 8, 2014 at 4:43 PM

None of this was authorized by Congress, which in fact expressly forbade EPA from issuing fossil fuel regulations on power plants.

EPA claimed jurisdiction under another law, and won in court the right to do it anyway.

When and if we ever take over Congress and the White House, legislating that court decision away, and severely restraining the EPA’s powers, should be high on the list.

Ideally, we would just line up everyone at EPA and IRS and shoot them as a warning to others but someone would start yelling about extremism or something.

Adjoran on January 8, 2014 at 4:51 PM

The more I listen to this zealot McCarthy, the more sure I am of how dangerous she is to be in this position of power. She has the same clinical approach to her worldview that is indistinguishable from the NAZI scientists that brought all the horrors of the Reich.

Murphy9 on January 8, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Not all of us. The elite will be nice and cozy at our expense. The rest are completely expendable. Whats several million frozen and starving bodies anyway. Just a statistic.
hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Hey, look on the bright side – that would qualify 0barky for a birthday basketball game with Dennis Rodman and his buddies….

dentarthurdent on January 8, 2014 at 4:58 PM

I think he claims to be 1/64th Lesbian Lakota.

BL@KBIRD on January 8, 2014 at 3:35 PM

That is funny, thanks

whbates on January 8, 2014 at 5:03 PM

She pees standing up.

Rambotito on January 8, 2014 at 5:20 PM

I think I’ll get ahead of the curve and buy my Yurt now.

Good thinking. Wait too long and there might be a shortage, then yurt controls, then yurts only for those loyal party members note elite enough to earn the privilege of sharing a real house.

As a fall-back you might also consider a cave condo, if the geology is accommodating where you live. Cave condos may be the housing wave of the mid to late 21st century.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 5:34 PM

rules not laws

jake49 on January 8, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Thank you f**king HA autorefresh, my comment just got eaten again.

/GRRRRR

Wanderlust on January 8, 2014 at 5:49 PM

As a fall-back you might also consider a cave condo, if the geology is accommodating where you live. Cave condos may be the housing wave of the mid to late 21st century.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 5:34 PM

I want one of those decommissioned missile silos.

dentarthurdent on January 8, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Have any of you read the reasoning behind the fireplace and stove regulations from the EPA? It’s all based on particulate matter and how that can cause health issues with those who breath it directly.

It’s like they don’t have a functioning brain cell in the entire liberal enviro-collective! Hello McFly… stoves use STOVEPIPES and fireplaces use CHIMNEYS to vent the smoke to the outside. WE DON’T BREATH IT IN OUR HOMES LIKE A GIANT SECOND-HAND SMOKER!!!

I will vote for any party that pledges they will abolish (or at least downsize by 80%) the EPA. Of course the Republicans are the stupid party, so I doubt it will be them. Third party maybe?

dominigan on January 8, 2014 at 6:27 PM

blink on January 8, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Insulation works both ways. The moon also gets much hotter than any desert 212 farenheit.

Net effect of insulation when your only 93 million miles from a star………net cooling.

Misnamed or not, the whole concept of a “Greenhouse Effect” will eventually be disproven.

WryTrvllr on January 8, 2014 at 6:54 PM

There is a battle inside Washington between the politics and the policy of reality.

For example, the Fed- good or bad- is filled with professionals who get the majority of how an economy functions. It is their life. They are also very much aware of their legacy and their friends in private industry who need a healthy economy to flourish. So they aren’t going to undermine any recovery.

Then there is the radical element of the Democrats led by Pelosi, Reid and Obama (and all his followers) who are beholden to special interests. These people make laws and regulations which undermine the growth. EPA being a prime example.

In economics dealing with business growth there are three main areas that have to be favorable. 1- cheap energy 2- low regulations 3- low taxes. Frig with any of these and the wheels will start to wobble.

Obama is not only playing he is hammering away at ALL THREE while the rest of the professionals look on in horror!

Wait until the full impact of this and Obamacare hits the economy. We’ll be lucky to have a one percent growth.

Also look for others like Robert Gates to come forward and tell their side of the story. They all have egos. They all want to avoid being linked in history to a debacle.

archer52 on January 8, 2014 at 7:00 PM

What a handsome fellow.

John the Libertarian on January 8, 2014 at 3:42 PM

…has high cheekbones!

KOOLAID2 on January 8, 2014 at 9:04 PM

When we start having widespread power outages because we can’t keep up with demand, I would put money down that they will blame Bush.

mojojojo on January 8, 2014 at 10:23 PM