Video: Rudy Giuliani not really a big fan of Bill de Blasio or his “basically Marxist ideas”

posted at 12:41 pm on January 8, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

Newly inaugurated New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio came right out of the gate with all of his rhetorical class-warmongering guns blazing, going on about his plans to tackle the “the inequality crisis we face today” by asking “the very wealthy to pay a little more in taxes” to fund the city’s “march toward a fairer, more just, more progressive place,” and etcetera with all of the usual trite populist fiction progressives throw around. Former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani, however, thinks that even the term “progressive” is too generous in describing the egregiously old-and-busted policies of which de Blasio is now trumpeting himself as a noble pioneer. “Retrogressive” is rather closer to the mark, Giuliani insisted on Fox News last night:


Also, I’m getting really annoyed at this concept of “progressive.” There’s absolutely nothing “progressive” in this class warfare stuff — it’s retrogressive. Every single policy that they’re talking about is a policy that has failed several times historically going back 130-140 years. We’re talking about basically Marxist ideas. We saw them used in Eastern Europe, we saw them used in Asia, we saw them used — I took over a city, that was a disaster. First thing I did was lower taxes, not raise taxes. Next thing I did was require people on welfare to work. I said, ‘If you want your welfare check, you have to work.’ … The amount of people I took off welfare? How about 500 to 600,000. … In New York, you are the junior partner in your earnings. The government is the senior partner. You’re not working for you and your family mostly, you’re working for everybody else mostly. … These are presented as new ideas. These are all ideas that have failed. They were at the heart of why this city was a disaster in 1993, 1994. They were at the heart of why the city had 10.5 percent unemployment, why the city had a deficit of 2 to 3 billion dollars.


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Leftists are Never liberal/progressive, never.

Schadenfreude on January 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Good for Rudy speaking out….he was my candidate in 2008…

..yeah, yeah, I know…..

OT, got to hand it to Roger Ailes…..quote from him:

“I hired Palin back to pizz off those who wanted her Dead.”

Gee Roger, you have such a way with words…..

ToddPA on January 8, 2014 at 12:49 PM

BREAKING NEWS……or not.

Big gov loving Progressive republican pissed that openly Marxist Big gov loving Progressive is so openly open about the ultimate destination of Progressivism.

#gopstillsucking

PappyD61 on January 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM

“New Yorkers voted and now they must be punished” — Ed Koch

Schadenfreude on January 8, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Proving my earlier post that this year and the next election cycle are all going to be focused on the words “EQUALITY” or “INEquality”…..

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/06/white-house-resets-to-income-inequality-amid-obamacare-problems/

The Obama administration has set the stage for a push that could rekindle cries of class warfare — calling for renewed long-term unemployment benefits, a minimum wage increase and a campaign against what Democrats call “income inequality.”

“The combined trends of increased inequality and decreasing mobility pose a fundamental threat to the American dream, our way of life and what we stand for around the globe,”

…and I’m just going to go out on a limb and say the republicans will have no response.

#gopwillstillbesucking

……and it’s NOT just about INCOME inequality. This tag team Equality/Inequality is the ticket to transitioning from Regulated capitalism and Socialism to Marxist rule in this country.

PappyD61 on January 8, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Rudy is infinitely better than De Blasio.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on January 8, 2014 at 12:55 PM

But, but the trains will run on time.

onomo on January 8, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Rudy: “Progressivism is retrogressive.”

Rudy calls a spade a spade. That’s one reason I like the guy so much.

petefrt on January 8, 2014 at 12:57 PM

I really wish Rudy’s campaign didn’t implode in 2008.

Sigh.

mythicknight on January 8, 2014 at 12:58 PM

In some few moment of consciousness last night, I thought I heard the folks on Red Eye say that the murder rate had gone down in Chicago because the police there and instituted “stop and frisk”. That’s interesting.

Cindy Munford on January 8, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Rudy is infinitely better than De Blasio.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on January 8, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Guy was one hell of a Mayor of that city.

What the F*ck happened to the people who live there??

ToddPA on January 8, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Pappyd61,

How exactly is Rudy Giuliani a progressive? I want specific examples.

Jack_Burton on January 8, 2014 at 12:59 PM

He was born Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili, but decided “Bill De Blasio” was catchier.

forest on January 8, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Rudy: “Progressivism is retrogressive.”

Rudy calls a spade a spade. That’s one reason I like the guy so much.

petefrt on January 8, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Bingo. he’s a stand up guy, who tells it like it is. If you
disagree, he’ll debate you…on Anything. I have tremendous
respect for him…

ToddPA on January 8, 2014 at 1:00 PM

People like de Blasio are, without a doubt, the most intellectually vapid individuals on the planet. But New Yorkers themselves are worse. They elected this dim bulb. They deserve whatever disaster befalls them as a result.

NotCoach on January 8, 2014 at 1:06 PM

DeBlasio will be revealed in time. After NY becomes Detroit.

ultracon on January 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM

What the F*ck happened to the people who live there??

ToddPA on January 8, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Its a different eletorate. Think the migration in and out that happened since Rudy left office and the demographic changes in general. How many NYers remember the Guiliani years or Dinkins years for that matter?

Valkyriepundit on January 8, 2014 at 1:10 PM

I’m glad that someone if finally saying this. Calling the Left either “liberal” or “progressive” is an Orwellian use of opposite-speech.

WhatSlushfund on January 8, 2014 at 1:11 PM

ToddPA

Trudat: You may disagree with him, but you better know why.

Knott Buyinit on January 8, 2014 at 1:12 PM

What the F*ck happened to the people who live there??

ToddPA on January 8, 2014 at 12:58 PM

They went back to their roots.

Schadenfreude on January 8, 2014 at 1:16 PM

DeBlasio, O and Clinton “think they can do it right” ugh

CoffeeLover on January 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio came right out of the gate with all of his rhetorical class-warmongering guns blazing
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Pinko Jack*ss is Painting the Big Apple Red!!

canopfor on January 8, 2014 at 1:18 PM

He was born Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili, but decided “Bill De Blasio” was catchier.

forest on January 8, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Born Warren Wilhelm, Jr…father of German ancestry, which he didn’t like. It wasn’t so politically fluid.

He hates his father as obama hates his white mother.

Schadenfreude on January 8, 2014 at 1:18 PM

de Blasio is his mother’s maiden name.

Schadenfreude on January 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM

DeBlasio, O and Clinton “think they can do it right” ugh

CoffeeLover on January 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM

He will primary Hillary from the left. obama needs a front boy.

obama killed Hillary in 2008 and will kill her off in 2016.

Schadenfreude on January 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Speaking of NY:
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Long Island, NY, US
1m
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Update: Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., announces she will not run for re-election this year – @Newsday
read more on newsday.com
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Originally published: January 8, 2014 12:46 PM
Updated: January 8, 2014 1:06 PM
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http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/rep-carolyn-mccarthy-i-won-t-run-again-1.6757185

canopfor on January 8, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Pappyd61,

How exactly is Rudy Giuliani a progressive? I want specific examples.

Jack_Burton on January 8, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Amnesty, abortion, gun control, government spying, gay rights.

http://www.ontheissues.org/rudy_giuliani.htm

bw222 on January 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Schadenfreude…u don’t think it’s coming from Montana’s Schweitzer (I think that is his name, or Warren?)

CoffeeLover on January 8, 2014 at 1:25 PM

NYC is getting the government they voted for. Enjoy your communist mayor and his administration. When the music’s over, turn out the lights.

simkeith on January 8, 2014 at 1:25 PM

You know the funny thing about New York City, I have many friends that grew up there and when I ask them about the place they tell me how great it is. But, when I ask them when they are moving back, the answer is always never. NYC must be one great place.

DDay on January 8, 2014 at 1:31 PM

This guy had it right.

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

Winston Churchill

jukin3 on January 8, 2014 at 1:31 PM

FULL SPEED to Extreme LEFT:
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Reuters Politics ‏@ReutersPolitics 1h

Liberal ally to NY Mayor de Blasio expected to head city council http://reut.rs/KEcJ8p
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Liberal ally to NY Mayor de Blasio expected to head city council
NEW YORK Wed Jan 8, 2014 11:38am EST
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(Reuters) – The New York City Council is due to elect its new speaker on Monday, with a liberal ally of Mayor Bill de Blasio, who has placed confronting economic inequality at the center of his agenda, heavily favored to win.

De Blasio, an unabashed liberal who took office on January 1,

has been openly supportive of Melissa Mark-Viverito,

co-chair of the Council’s progressive caucus who has taken liberal stances

on issues like paid sick leave,

affordable housing

and police reform.

Working together, the two would represent a strong leftward political shift from de Blasio’s more moderate predecessor, Michael Bloomberg, and former City Council Speaker Christine Quinn.
(More…)
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/08/us-usa-politics-newyork-idUSBREA070YB20140108?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=574655

canopfor on January 8, 2014 at 1:32 PM

People like de Blasio are, without a doubt, the most intellectually vapid individuals on the planet. But New Yorkers themselves are worse. They elected this dim bulb. They deserve whatever disaster befalls them as a result.

NotCoach on January 8, 2014 at 1:06 PM

“You can always tell a New Yorker, you just can’t tell him much…”

dentarthurdent on January 8, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Rudy has the voice, but Team de Blasio’s biggest threat actually from the nanny who he just replaced. Giuliani did the heavy lifting to fix New York, while Bloomberg (to his credit) maintained Rudy’s positions on public safety that, in turn, allowed him to go about banning Big Gulps and e-cigarettes, because the major quality-of-life issues had been taken care of over the past 20 years.

De Blasio isn’t going to reverse the e-cig ban or Bloomberg’s other big government policies, but if he starts taking down the quality of life and killing off ex-Mayor Mike’s beloved business development, the new guy may find those millions Bloomberg no isn’t spending on gun control efforts are being targeted at reminding New Yorkers the guy they just voted for is screwing up their lives.

jon1979 on January 8, 2014 at 1:35 PM

I figure New Yorkers who missed out in 1993 will find out why Giuliani was elected back then

Sekhmet on January 8, 2014 at 1:35 PM

You know the funny thing about New York City, I have many friends that grew up there and when I ask them about the place they tell me how great it is. But, when I ask them when they are moving back, the answer is always never. NYC must be one great place.

DDay on January 8, 2014 at 1:31 PM

As I’ve heard said about my college (one of the military academies) – “it’s a great place to be from”.

dentarthurdent on January 8, 2014 at 1:35 PM

New York. Going down the same road as Detroit.

The end result will be the same. It always is.

Progressive policies, big government spending, sky-high taxes and union goon cronyism always leads to same result. Detroit.

Have fun swirling down the progressive toilet bowl New York.

Meople on January 8, 2014 at 1:39 PM

New York, NY, US
5m

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio ally

Melissa Mark-Viverito elected as New York City Council speaker – @AP

canopfor on January 8, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Slouching Towards Gomorrah Detroit

Marcola on January 8, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Slouching Towards Gomorrah Detroit

Marcola on January 8, 2014 at 1:47 PM

The ideal city and a model for which all leftist run cities strive. We should all be Detroit.

hawkeye54 on January 8, 2014 at 1:52 PM

“Progressive.”

Kinda like calling a sh!t sandwich fois gras on toast.

Maybe conservatives should start refering to themselves as the “superior” party. At least that’s accurate, relative to the libs.

iurockhead on January 8, 2014 at 1:53 PM

“Progressive.”

Kinda like calling a sh!t sandwich fois gras on toast.

Maybe conservatives should start refering to themselves as the “superior” party. At least that’s accurate, relative to the libs.

iurockhead on January 8, 2014 at 1:53 PM

I’m not sure what else to call them. Marxist is probably a little too narrow, Communist is sloughed off like it’s some mythical unicorn that only exists in fantasy. And calling them liberal just doesn’t cut it any longer as they’re now past that on the scale of leftism.

I don’t think Progressive is an ideal label, but for these leftists, I’m not sure what else fits. We could call them Authoritarians or Statists, but most people don’t even know what those mean.

I’m perfectly fine with just calling them wrong.

Meople on January 8, 2014 at 2:14 PM

De Blasio isn’t really a Marxist. It requires believing in a lot of ideas to actually be a Marxist, and it is too intellectually challenging for today’s Left. It would be accurate to call him a Communist.

thuja on January 8, 2014 at 2:29 PM

People like de Blasio are, without a doubt, the most intellectually vapid individuals on the planet. But New Yorkers themselves are worse. They elected this dim bulb. They deserve whatever disaster befalls them as a result.

NotCoach on January 8, 2014 at 1:06 PM

But we too will be paying for the disaster.

thuja on January 8, 2014 at 2:31 PM

So when all the “rich” start fleeing New York City, who does DeBlasio propose to tax in order to pay for city services?

GarandFan on January 8, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Touche`

sadatoni on January 8, 2014 at 2:40 PM

So when all the “rich” start fleeing New York City, who does DeBlasio propose to tax in order to pay for city services?

GarandFan on January 8, 2014 at 2:37 PM

He’ll be lobbying hard for more federal taxpayer “subsidies” to make up for it. That and once there are too few “rich” to tow the line, get ready “middle class” (which will be everyone making slightly over the poverty level), you’re next.

Of course by the time they start fleecing the middle class, the New York economy will be so bad, no one will be able to flee. Because you know, middle class families that are 40% under water on their mortgages can’t just pick up and go like the “rich” can.

Good bye New York, hello Detroit.

Meople on January 8, 2014 at 2:47 PM

So when all the “rich” start fleeing New York City, who does DeBlasio propose to tax in order to pay for city services?

GarandFan on January 8, 2014 at 2:37 PM

When the exodus gets large enough to get their attention, the first move will be an exit tax.

dentarthurdent on January 8, 2014 at 2:47 PM

So when all the “rich” start fleeing New York City, who does DeBlasio propose to tax in order to pay for city services?

GarandFan on January 8, 2014 at 2:37 PM

the “rich” have already fled, how many actually “live” in the city. being from upstate NY, they need to make another state from westchester county to the end of long island

RonK on January 8, 2014 at 2:47 PM

the “rich” have already fled, how many actually “live” in the city. being from upstate NY, they need to make another state from westchester county to the end of long island

RonK on January 8, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Funny you mention that. A good number of counties here in Colorado are trying to do that very thing right now.

Meople on January 8, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Funny you mention that. A good number of counties here in Colorado are trying to do that very thing right now.

Meople on January 8, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Yup – but I think those counties are looking at it the wrong way. If you look at the party representation across the entire state, the whole state is red except for the Denver-Boulder area.
We should be trying to force Denver-Boulder out of Colorado – let them be their own little Peoples’ Republik surrounded by the free state of Colorado.
(I’m in El Paso County BTW)

dentarthurdent on January 8, 2014 at 2:59 PM

Out-of-towners simply don’t understand the mindset of the typical New Yorker (at least those over 50…I don’t pretend to understand young people).

The whole identity of a New Yorker is wrapped up in the notion that things are always completely SNAFU, but a New Yorker makes it through. That’s because of some combination of (a) you’re rich and have connections, and (b) you’re a smart, tough cookie, and (c) you’re simply more resilient than others.

All this discussion about “don’t people appreciate what Giuliani did?” and “the city is going to be like Jack Lemmon in the Out-of-Towners” assumes that New Yorkers are normal people with normal psyches.

If you have a spiffed-up, clean, well-run city like Giuliani gave them, how can you show you’re better and tougher than everyone else? The point of the Out-of-Towners for New Yorkers was not that the city was a mess. It was that the bumpkins east of the Hudson couldn’t survive in it like they could.

One way to be miserable (ie, happy) again? Elect an idiot like Dinkins, de Blasio, etc. who can screw things up.

bobs1196 on January 8, 2014 at 3:08 PM

De Blasio likely believes in the rhetoric he utters. Like Hollande in France, he is going to try to implement policies that reflect his beliefs. He disregards failures of those types of policies in the past with the thought that they were not properly implemented. He knows better how to get them properly implemented.

He lacks experience with achieving the results his convictions tell him should be the way to go. He is likely to be in for a bit of disappointment, much like Hollande can’t quite seem to get the French economy rolling along smartly.

Russ808 on January 8, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Everybody should read the City Journal’s exegesis of Rudy Guiliani’s battle against the Left in New York. There is simply nothing like it modern political history. He took them on systematically, joyfully and victoriously. He came to work every day not asking, “how do we get through the attacks today?,” he would declare, “what dragons can we slay today?” Just remarkable. I really don’t know what happened to him in 2008. I guess he’s just not wired to be a national candidate.

rrpjr on January 8, 2014 at 3:28 PM

De Blasio isn’t really a Marxist. It requires believing in a lot of ideas to actually be a Marxist, and it is too intellectually challenging for today’s Left. It would be accurate to call him a Communist.

thuja on January 8, 2014 at 2:29 PM

I always thought Loony Left or Moonbat described these people best. They are a little nutty and very Utopian. They refuse to ever admit that socialist and quasi-socialist policies and programs have failed miserably everywhere they have tried. Their heads are in the clouds.

But Giuliani is right that it is terrible to allow them to call themselves or their policies progressive. They are stuck in the 1970s and seem to believe that those were halcyon days for America and New York.

rockmom on January 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Everybody should read the City Journal’s exegesis of Rudy Guiliani’s battle against the Left in New York. There is simply nothing like it modern political history. He took them on systematically, joyfully and victoriously. He came to work every day not asking, “how do we get through the attacks today?,” he would declare, “what dragons can we slay today?” Just remarkable. I really don’t know what happened to him in 2008. I guess he’s just not wired to be a national candidate.

rrpjr on January 8, 2014 at 3:28 PM

He knew he could not sell himself in socially conservative places like Iowa so decided to skip them. This made him appear weak and afraid of competition. Also by 2008 the nation’s memory of his leadership after 9/11 had faded and he had little else to say for himself.

He would have been a marvelous candidate against Barack Obama. He does really enjoy skewering the political Left and does it better than almost anyone. And he would have had a total field day with Obama’s dreadfully thin resume.

rockmom on January 8, 2014 at 3:37 PM

bobs1196 on January 8, 2014 at 3:08 PM

New York does have a history over the past century of going up to the abyss, looking down and then actually voting — temporarily — for a non-liberal Democratic mayor to fix things. But once they think the coast is clear, they go right back to making the same mistakes they did before.

The other thing is they’ll also accept any excuse in the world not to vote the Democrat out if they can help it. Usually, that involves the incumbent blaming some Republican higher up than them in Albany or Washington and the voters believing him, though under the current set-up, de Blasio only has poor John Boehner in a higher position of power to dump the blame off on, if things stay as they are. By 2016, he might actually be hoping for some GOP nominee to beat Hillary for the White House, so he can run his 2017 campaign based on blaming the new White House occupant for the city’s return to the Dinkins years.

jon1979 on January 8, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Their heads are in the clouds.
rockmom on January 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Noooooo – I don’t think that’s where their heads are……

dentarthurdent on January 8, 2014 at 3:41 PM

I am good friends with the man who designed and ran Giuliani’s welfare reform program, which was stunningly successful. He went on to run a similar program in Wisconsin. He probably would have been HHS Secretary had Giuliani been elected President. Brilliant guy, also very very conservative. He and I will be watching deBlasio very closely to see if he dismantles Giuliani’s reforms. The Loony Left has always thought welfare reform was horrible and punished the poor. But there are a million New Yorkers today who once were poor and no longer are because of those reforms.

rockmom on January 8, 2014 at 3:42 PM

In 1993, New York City had 1,927 murders.
In 2013, New York City had 334 murders.

If De Blasio takes New York back to the pre-Rudy/Bloomberg era, how many New Yorkers are not even going to be alive to see it?

J.S.K. on January 8, 2014 at 3:44 PM

But there are a million New Yorkers today who once were poor and no longer are because of those reforms.

rockmom on January 8, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Well, doggone it – we need to put them back where they belong….

And I’m sure DeBlasio will try…..

dentarthurdent on January 8, 2014 at 3:44 PM

Had he not developed prostate cancer and dropped his bid to run for Senate against Hillary he might have lost but boy would that race have been a hoot.

KW64 on January 8, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Way to go Rudy.

I still remember how you turned around New York and how well you managed 9/11.

You are a stand up guy.

KMC1 on January 8, 2014 at 4:37 PM

In 1993, New York City had 1,927 murders.
In 2013, New York City had 334 murders.

If De Blasio takes New York back to the pre-Rudy/Bloomberg era, how many New Yorkers are not even going to be alive to see it?

J.S.K. on January 8, 2014 at 3:44 PM

…l o t s !

KOOLAID2 on January 8, 2014 at 9:12 PM