Open thread: Senate cloture vote on unemployment benefits; Update: Passes cloture, 60/37

posted at 10:03 am on January 7, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Technically, it’s not the first item of business for the Senate in 2014 — Janet Yellen’s confirmation yesterday came first — but it’s the first business for the 2014 midterm elections, at least from the Democratic Party point of view. The vote on cloture for the Hary Reid-Dean Heller compromise on the unemployment-benefit extension will take place at 10:30, assuming the Senate remains on schedule:

The Senate plunged into an election-year session Monday that promises to be long on political maneuvering and less so on accomplishment, beginning with a slow-motion struggle over legislation to renew lapsed jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed.

“I’m optimistic, cautiously optimistic, that the new year will bring a renewed spirit of cooperation to this chamber,” said Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., in the first remarks of the year on the Senate floor.

Within moments, he pivoted, accusing Republicans of “never ending obstruction” to President Barack Obama’s proposals over the past five years.

Well, so much for bipartisanship, eh? The vote was to take place last night, but Reid did wait on it until everyone had more opportunity to return to Capitol Hill. Reid also needed the time to get more Republicans to back the compromise bill, but according to WYFF, he’s still a vote short of cloture:

Backers of the Senate bill to extend long-term unemployment benefits were one vote short of the 60 they need to clear a procedural hurdle, in a vote set to happen Tuesday morning. … The other three Republicans [besides Heller] are Sens. Dean Heller of Nevada, a co-sponsor of the bill; Lisa Murkowski of Alaska; and Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire.

There are other Republicans willing to go along, if offsets on spending are included:

Many Republicans argue a $6.4 billion extension would hurt the economy and act as a disincentive to job creation. Others members of the GOP have signaled they might back an extension if the cost is offset by cuts elsewhere in the budget.

Sen. Mark Kirk of Illinois, a Republican who often works across the aisle, got a call from Obama but missed it because he wasn’t in the office. Kirk said he wants to help people but insisted Congress must find a way to pay for the measure.

“I, obviously, have people in my state who would benefit. The better way to go is to not add to the deficit in an irresponsible way,” Kirk said.

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, is one of the four Republicans who said they would vote to begin debate on the bill. However, she wouldn’t rule out blocking it later if cost offsets aren’t added.

This should put Democrats on the defensive, since they pushed through the “pay-go” rule themselves with great fanfare in the first year of the Obama presidency.  They have pushed for extensions ever since on an emergency basis to bypass pay-go, but four years later, the “emergency” of a bad economy isn’t exactly a winning message for 2014. On the other hand, Republicans who want to push the message of a dysfunctional economy may have a tough time explaining why they want to cut off extended benefits when the economy is so bad.

Harry Reid went all-in on the bad-economy emergency message in his opening remarks, saying that the US has never suffered this kind of long-term unemployment as we have now — a message that somehow gets forgotten when slight incremental gains in job creation get hailed as evidence of the Great Economic Recovery. Maybe someone at the NRSC is checking for sound bites today.

Will Reid get his fifth vote? I’d guess yes — it’s easier to explain a vote for another short-term extension than to explain one against it. That still leaves the House, though, where the pay-go rule will get taken more seriously, and the bill will get returned with offsets.

Update: Reid picked up enough votes for cloture — at least for the first round:

Club for Growth-backed Rob Portman ended up casting an aye:

That doesn’t mean it will get past a second cloture vote, Sam Stein warns:

I’d guess that the GOP would rather keep the focus on ObamaCare in 2014 rather than fuel the White House narrative of “income inequality” for the midterm elections, but the House will want something significant in return. We’ll see.


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Collins murkowski and ayotte can all pound sand

cmsinaz on January 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM

CSPAN LIVE,………. ON NOW:

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM

I almost threw up on Greta when Byron York said “Oh, the Republicans will cave. And they should.”

You know, like “no pre-existing conditions”, a freebie like unemployment benefits forever is just too popular to oppose.

Marcus on January 7, 2014 at 10:08 AM

The Democrats do not want bi-partisanship, they want to win and they’ll do what it takes to win. If they can dupe the Republicans into being bi-partisan, more power to them, but the goal is to get re-elected.

bflat879 on January 7, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Boyo,

Reid is on a Bleeding Heart Roll!!

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:11 AM

“I’m optimistic, cautiously optimistic, that the new year will bring a renewed spirit of cooperation to this chamber,” said Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., in the first remarks of the year on the Senate floor.

Within moments, he pivoted, accusing Republicans of “never ending obstruction” to President Barack Obama’s proposals over the past five years.

Hypocrisy thy name is Harry Reid.

Bitter Clinger on January 7, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Cornyn, you twit-you better do the right thing!

annoyinglittletwerp on January 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM

PAYGO!!!!!!!

cmsinaz on January 7, 2014 at 10:13 AM

Al-RIGHT — more free money! Ya-HOO!

Jeddite on January 7, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Putting Politics aside,

but, Demonizing the GOP is A–okay!!

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:15 AM

From headlines.

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, is one of the four
Republicans who said they would vote to begin debate on the bill. However, she wouldn’t rule out blocking it later if cost offsets aren’t added.

Pandering to the Low info Voter again.

Collins: Let’s get move this bill foward, but trust me, once I have no leverage in the matter, I’ll scream bloody murder.

WisRich on January 7, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Which GOP’er do they plan to buy off?

WordsMatter on January 7, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Trust us
-harry

And the squishy gop get duped every time

Lucy and the football

cmsinaz on January 7, 2014 at 10:16 AM

What are conservative voters going to do? Not show up in November or something?

libfreeordie on January 7, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 2m

Senate GOP Leader McConnell proposes amendment to extend long-term unemployment benefits and lift ObamaCare individual mandate for a year.
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Reid notes that Senate has previously extended long-term unemployment benefits under Pres GW Bush without offsets.
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Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 6m

Reid says a failure to extend long-term unemployment benefits would be a blow to the unemployed and to the economy.
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Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 8m

On Senate floor, @SenatorReid says for some unemployed, benefits are the difference between living a decent life & going hungry or homeless.
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JUST IN: JPMorgan Chase will pay $1.7 billion to settle government suspicions the bank ignored signs of Bernard Madoff’s fraud scheme.
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Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 1h

Most Congressional Republicans insist the cost of the long-term benefits be offset by budget cuts.
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Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 1h

WH says failing to extend long-term unemployment benefits would cost the economy 240,000 jobs this year.
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Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 1h

The duration of long-term benefits differs by state. Covers up to 73 weeks of benefits in states with highest unemployment e.g. NV and RI.

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:21 AM

OBoyo,……………………..

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Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 2m

Reid calls McConnell proposal “a guise to obstruct” and objects to the amendment “with as much fervor as I can.”

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:23 AM

Democrats do love an permanent dependent underclass.

gwelf on January 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM

It sure seems like we spend more time worrying about unemployment benefits than actually worrying about unemployment.

lynncgb on January 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM

collins, king (no worse than snowe really as you know how he will always vote), michaud and pingree.
yeah this state sucks.

dmacleo on January 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM

It sure seems like we spend more time worrying about unemployment benefits than actually worrying about unemployment.

lynncgb on January 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM

exactly.

dmacleo on January 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM

Senate cloture vote on unemployment benefits

If you like your unemployemnt…..

Electrongod on January 7, 2014 at 10:25 AM

why do i work,

phatfawzi on January 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM

On the other hand, Republicans who want to push the message of a dysfunctional economy may have a tough time explaining why they want to cut off extended benefits when the economy is so bad.

Yet another strawman that needs to be burned.

1. This isn’t free money. It is money that comes from taxpayers and states whose unemployment funds are largely bankrupt.

2. This in NOT the norm. Unemployment benefits are meant to assist short term unemployment. This is not meant to be welfare. That is the next step.

3. Where is the “jobs” focus? By anyone including Republicans? Oh yeah, it is buried under the coming immigration bill that will hand over more jobs to people illegally resident in our country.

Marcus Traianus on January 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM

What are conservative voters going to do? Not show up in November or something?

libfreeordie on January 7, 2014 at 10:19 AM

thats the plan. be sure to let everyone you know hear about it too. cats out of the bag now so may as well go bray it loud and proud.

dmacleo on January 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM

Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 2m

McConnell urges Senate to support “job creating measures” and find ways to pay for extending long-term unemployment benefits.

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:27 AM

And what happened to Kelly Ayote that she has now become the go-to vote for Democrats on every liberal agenda item?

What the hell is going on in New Hampshire?

Marcus Traianus on January 7, 2014 at 10:28 AM

What are conservative voters going to do? Not show up in November or something?

libfreeordie on January 7, 2014 at 10:19 AM

libfreeordie:

Duh,…its January,..and,..you in the year 2014!!

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:28 AM

i pray for the day when i read on HA that harry and/or nancy have had a snot gurgling stroke, i do not have hate in my heart, BUT I HATE THOSE TWO TRAITORS!!!

ARIZONAVETERAN on January 7, 2014 at 10:28 AM

By all means… let’s pay legal American workers to stay home…beyond 99 weeks… while we import still more illegal and legal immigrants to take available jobs.

Yeah…there’s a winning proposition for American working people. /

thatsafactjack on January 7, 2014 at 10:29 AM

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Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 1m

Hoyer believes if Senate passes UI extension, it would apply pressure on the House to act: If it comes to the floor, I believe it will pass.
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Hoyer on the possibility of a short-term CR to avoid a gov’t shutdown in mid-January: I’ve heard some discussion…
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Hoyer on GOP pushing 2 Obamacare bills this week: It is reflective of the obsessive, political focus Republicans have..
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Hoyer on D’s pushing UI extension: We will continue to talk about it until..it happens because it has an adverse effect on individuals
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McConnell tries to offer R amdt to Reed/Heller UI bill to offset benefits by delaying individual health care mandate. Reid blocks McConnell.
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canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:29 AM

2-4 year gap on a resume’ looks very bad. This is doing more harm than good to people taking unemployment for this long. They’d be better off taking a lower pay/prestige work and working back up. Or moving. Or commuting. I’ve done all three to stay in work and the fact that I do not qualify for any unemployment has likely been a motivator.

But we’ve reached a point where this is a minority position. It’s downright depressing.

forest on January 7, 2014 at 10:29 AM

Frank Thorp V ‏@frankthorpNBC 1m

Hoyer says if a UI extension passes the Senate there will be “increased pressure to pass it in the House”

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:29 AM

First of all why the hell would anyone want to work a partisan a-hole like Reid EVER? Should be able to pay for this w/o much trouble finding other useless shit in a 4 trillion dollar budget.

I heard this only for 3 months, if they were serious about anything why not extend it longer? Except for the fact the Dems want to come back and play political games in a few months before an election.

gsherin on January 7, 2014 at 10:31 AM

MeanWhile,…in Indonesia!

Oh,………..its Reid getting HOT,…and BLOWING UP
on da GOP!!

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canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:33 AM

“I’m optimistic, cautiously optimistic, that the new year will bring a renewed spirit of cooperation to this chamber,” said Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., in the first remarks of the year on the Senate floor.

I would be more optimistic–cautiously or otherwise– if the Senate chamber exercised some common-sense fiscal responsibility. Those who can make the compelling (and vocal) case for stopping this endless cycle of propping up the failed economic policies of this administration and for proposing proven methods of getting America back to work and productivity should take their stand now.

onlineanalyst on January 7, 2014 at 10:33 AM

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Hoyer on Dems pushing for UI extension and GOPers rejecting it: I think it does make a clear distinction to the..people in need.
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Hoyer says it “would be an intellectual jujitsu” to believe that Obama is responsible for issues in the economy.
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Procedural vote to call up unemployment insurance extension plan may now come closer to 11 am et.

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:34 AM

Yet another strawman that needs to be burned.

1. This isn’t free money. It is money that comes from taxpayers and states whose unemployment funds are largely bankrupt.

2. This in NOT the norm. Unemployment benefits are meant to assist short term unemployment. This is not meant to be welfare. That is the next step.

3. Where is the “jobs” focus? By anyone including Republicans? Oh yeah, it is buried under the coming immigration bill that will hand over more jobs to people illegally resident in our country.

Marcus Traianus on January 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM

I don’t know about your state, but in Pennsylvania to receive extended UE you have to demonstrate that you are actively looking for work and apply for at least two jobs every week. The state can cut off benefits and even force you to pay them back if you don’t. This is not the same as welfare or food stamps where you do nothing to receive benefits. UE is also taxable income to the recipient.

I was out of fulltime work for 3 years from 2008-2011. I got only 52 weeks of UE and it was a lifesaver.

rockmom on January 7, 2014 at 10:35 AM

Ugh,…………………..not the Tea Party ScapeGoaty!!

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:35 AM

So the teats on this govt sow have to be hanging down a foot,don’t you think…geez..

..will at least the GOP backers of this make a statement the need to extend UE bennies is a direct result of Obama’s failed policies–something, please.

hillsoftx on January 7, 2014 at 10:36 AM

WisRich on January 7, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Susie always plays this game. She is so “easy.”

An enterprising opponent of this measure should ask how many times a “temporary” boost should be reinstated and also point out how many times it has been done so with no demonstrably positive effect on employment or the economy.

onlineanalyst on January 7, 2014 at 10:38 AM

Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 3m

Hoyer on new violence in Iraq: I don’t think a redeployment of troops in Iraq at this point is in the best interest of the United States.
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Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 4m

Hoyer on if the GOP is refighting the ’12 election: We won that fight. I’m comfortable having fights we won.

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:40 AM

Where is the “jobs” focus? By anyone including Republicans? Oh yeah, it is buried under the coming immigration bill that will hand over more jobs to people illegally resident in our country.

Marcus Traianus on January 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM

And while more jobs get sent overseas. I know about a dozen people that got laid off on Monday because their jobs are now in China…and those jobs will never be coming back.

lynncgb on January 7, 2014 at 10:41 AM

They might as well,..take the gloves off,..and give’r!!

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:41 AM

2-4 year gap on a resume’ looks very bad. This is doing more harm than good to people taking unemployment for this long. They’d be better off taking a lower pay/prestige work and working back up. Or moving. Or commuting. I’ve done all three to stay in work and the fact that I do not qualify for any unemployment has likely been a motivator.

But we’ve reached a point where this is a minority position. It’s downright depressing.

forest on January 7, 2014 at 10:29 AM

All true, but if you are a 40- or 50-something with a mortgage and kids in school and a spouse with a decent job, moving is a much more difficult proposition. Many of these long-term unemployed are middle-aged white collar workers and they are often deemed overqualified for those lesser jobs and do not even get interviews for them. A lot of them also still have homes with underwater mortgages so they cannot sell and move either. I have a neighbor in this predicament after his accounting/finance job was moved to India, and he is now driving a limo.

I was very very lucky to get my current job after not working fulltime for 3 years, and I have a 100-mile-a-day commute and took a 30% pay cut from my previous job.

rockmom on January 7, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Within moments, he pivoted, accusing Republicans of “never ending obstruction”

That’s the Harry I know, the guy can’t finish a sentence without taking a swipe at the other side. He’s a pugnacious little punk. I don’t expect because the clock ticked past 2013 he’s going to be any different.

scalleywag on January 7, 2014 at 10:42 AM

The Dem Demonization is getting into HIGH-GEAR!!!

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:43 AM

I have an idea –

let’s give everyone unemployment benefits in perpetuity whether they work or not!

Fairness, inequality, and all that, ya know.

DRayRaven on January 7, 2014 at 10:43 AM

And while more jobs get sent overseas. I know about a dozen people that got laid off on Monday because their jobs are now in China…and those jobs will never be coming back.

lynncgb on January 7, 2014 at 10:41 AM

I live in Merck land where 3500 people are about to lose their jobs. I have about a dozen friends who work there. Where is a chemist with 25 years experience and 3 kids supposed to find work in this economy?

rockmom on January 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Winter storm, ‘polar vortex’ hits US Midwest, East, January 2014
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Photo: Aerial pic of an icy Chicago – via @WCL_Shawn

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canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Would someone ask Reid why his state of NV has such high unemployment?

onlineanalyst on January 7, 2014 at 10:46 AM

2014 will be the same as last year. Whatever Reid can get through the Senate, Boehner will rubber-stamp with only a minority of the Republican conference approving.

Wigglesworth on January 7, 2014 at 10:46 AM

I live in Merck land where 3500 people are about to lose their jobs. I have about a dozen friends who work there. Where is a chemist with 25 years experience and 3 kids supposed to find work in this economy?

rockmom on January 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM

North Dakota.

kcewa on January 7, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Would someone ask Reid why his state of NV has such high unemployment?

onlineanalyst on January 7, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Well, their governor is a Republican. So I’m guessing Reid would blame him.

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canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:49 AM

Where is a chemist with 25 years experience and 3 kids supposed to find work in this economy?

rockmom on January 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Yep. The people I know are in the same situation. Most of them are older and were making good salaries in a specialty field. There are extremely limited opportunities for them going forward.

lynncgb on January 7, 2014 at 10:49 AM

If you are for so called immigration reform then it makes sense to be a proponent of expanding unemployment benefits because the former will bring a lot more of the latter.

Wigglesworth on January 7, 2014 at 10:50 AM

rockmom on January 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Yep, this economy sucks and the Republicans should be out there telling it like it is. There may be certain places and occupations that are doing fine, but not where I live. At 63 years old, I rarely if ever get called for an interview to Any job I apply for.

BeachBum on January 7, 2014 at 10:51 AM

This morning Rass Zero’s JA 49-49. I think I was in the 7th grade when I learned about extrapolation. The problem with Rass is not only are they off the line, they’re off the page. What’s up with those people??

rik on January 7, 2014 at 10:57 AM

************ DicTator Alert ********************:)

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., calls Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., ‘the dictator’ for not allowing amendments on unemployment benefits extension – @burgessev
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canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 10:57 AM

If/when this extension is passed, they’ll be doing it again at the end of the 13 weeks.

SheVee on January 7, 2014 at 11:00 AM

All true, but if you are a 40- or 50-something with a mortgage and kids in school and a spouse with a decent job, moving is a much more difficult proposition. Many of these long-term unemployed are middle-aged white collar workers and they are often deemed overqualified for those lesser jobs and do not even get interviews for them.

rockmom on January 7, 2014 at 10:42 AM

So true. I lost my job at the end of November, and mine was the primary income for the family. (Thanks, Unaffordable Insurance Act!) I’m a librarian and have worked at a hospital for the last 13 years. There are NO library jobs within an hour commute of my house, except for two or three which are essentially IT jobs, for which I do not have the qualifications or experience. Public library jobs have hundreds of applicants who have plenty of public library experience. I’ve applied for several jobs already which would involve moving, with me going ahead and living on my own for months (or longer), including one which was exactly what I’ve been doing for 13 years except that I haven’t maintained a departmental web page. I didn’t even make the cut for an interview on that one. I’d need a job paying at least $14/h to get more than my unemployment check, and there are NO jobs in this area which pay that much which don’t get 100s of applicants, many of whom have years of experience in exactly those fields.

I’m not particularly sanguine about my chances of working in my field again, at least not within the next two or three years. For that matter, I’m not sure about finding a job of anysort without moving which pays anywhere near what I was making within the next five years or so, and I’m already 52. God only knows how/if the girls are going to go to college. I’m not that sanguine about keeping our house either, except that the housing market in this area is really crappy, and my parents can help out at least a bit. I don’t feel too guilty about expecting such help, since they vote Democrat.

So, I’m off to finish getting dressed, do a little housework, and then sit down and send out another round of applications, in the hopes that someone, somewhere, is willing to even talk to me about work.

LibraryGryffon on January 7, 2014 at 11:03 AM

esh….just turned to Cspan 2

Senate has 60 yes votes to advance UI bill.

CoffeeLover on January 7, 2014 at 11:08 AM

I’d need a job paying at least $14/h to get more than my unemployment check

LibraryGryffon on January 7, 2014 at 11:03 AM

Therein lies the problem. There’s no incentive to work below $14/hour. It is the effective minimum wage.

blammm on January 7, 2014 at 11:09 AM

60 yes 37 No final count.

CoffeeLover on January 7, 2014 at 11:09 AM

What are conservative voters going to do? Not show up in November or something?

libfreeorgan on January 7, 2014 at 10:19 AM

…” Youbetcha”

KOOLAID2 on January 7, 2014 at 11:10 AM

Open thread: Senate cloture vote on unemployment welfare benefits

The right should name things what they are.

Goebbels loves the leftists.

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:16 AM

Greetings from your oaf in chief

From Hawaii, Obama Blasted Republicans Who ‘Went Home for the Holidays’

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:16 AM

US unemployment benefits extension debate
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Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, on supporting motion to proceed on unemployment insurance extension bill: ‘As Congress considers extending emergency unemployment insurance benefits again, my focus will continue to be on how to get Ohioans back to work by improving the economy and creating the opportunity for more people to find a job’ – via @NBCNews
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US unemployment benefits extension debate
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Senate votes to advance extension of unemployment benefits, 60 to 37, with 6 GOP supporters – @mpoindc
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canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 11:17 AM

From Hawaii, Obama Blasted Republicans Who ‘Went Home for the Holidays’

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:16 AM

Schadenfreude: Exactly:0

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 11:17 AM

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 11:17 AM

thanks canopfor, I was wondering which “R” was the last one to turn.

CoffeeLover on January 7, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Club for Growth-backed Rob Portman ended up casting an aye

I’d like to have my 2010 Portman vote back.

Bitter Clinger on January 7, 2014 at 11:19 AM

Therein lies the problem. There’s no incentive to work below $14/hour. It is the effective minimum wage.

blammm on January 7, 2014 at 11:09 AM

For me, true, though it would also be irresponsible of me to take a job paying $10/h when unemployment gives me $13 and I have kids to help support. (I’d need a bit higher than unemployment to make up for the SS/MC deduction.) I *was* making $25/h. If I had been making $14/h before my position was eliminated, I’d be lucky if I was getting the equivalent of minimum wage. And we don’t have too many of those jobs around here either. Anyway, I’d be considered “over qualified” for anything like that, and no one would want to hire me, for fear that I’d find low-skill, low-wage jobs “boring”.

LibraryGryffon on January 7, 2014 at 11:20 AM

esh….just turned to Cspan 2

Senate has 60 yes votes to advance UI bill.

CoffeeLover on January 7, 2014 at 11:08 AM

CoffeeLover:Ugh,..awaiting Roll Call:)
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http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/a_three_sections_with_teasers/votes.htm

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 11:20 AM

blammm on January 7, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Greece is the word.

MontanaMmmm on January 7, 2014 at 11:21 AM

I’d guess that the GOP would rather keep the focus on ObamaCare in 2014 rather than fuel the White House narrative of “income inequality” for the midterm elections, but the House will want something significant in return. We’ll see.

Please. Boehner will let it pass with a few Republicans and a majority of Dems if necessary. When it comes to spending bills, the Hastert Rule is effectively dead.

Doughboy on January 7, 2014 at 11:21 AM

I have an idea –

let’s give everyone unemployment benefits in perpetuity whether they work or not!

Fairness, inequality, and all that, ya know.

DRayRaven on January 7, 2014 at 10:43 AM

You’re right in line with this genius.

To watch the Rs argue like the leftists is disgusting.

obama destroyed the land, and now blames the Rs for it.

You mopers, from top/DC, to all over, enable him. Go buy a set of diapers and Depends. He is “From diapers to Depends”. You are too.

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:23 AM

Barbara Boxer is now on a B*tch Rant!!

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 11:25 AM

DRayRaven on January 7, 2014 at 10:43 AM

To be certain, I know you were snarking.

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Effectively obama destroyed the land and the gov’t.

Enjoy your king.

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:27 AM

The Rs in the US are bigger destroyers than the Ds. The former enable the latter.

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:28 AM

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Frank Thorp V ‏@frankthorpNBC 15m

Senators not voting on the UI cloture vote:

Begich
Hatch
Thune
from Washington, DC
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Frank Thorp V ‏@frankthorpNBC 18m

Senate procedural vote on 3-month UI extension PASSES 60-37 (needed 60) GOP YEAs:

Ayotte

Coats

Collins

Heller

Murkowski

Portman

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Ayotte NH, Coats IN, Collins ME, Heller NV, Murkowski AK and Portman OH.

They, like obama, destroy your children – the former more than obama.

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Today the oaf in chief will preach about “Inequality”.

Does it mean that he’ll bring the mooch back and send all the poor to HI now?

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:32 AM

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 11:17 AM

thanks canopfor, I was wondering which “R” was the last one to turn.

CoffeeLover on January 7, 2014 at 11:18 AM

CoffeeLover:Yup,..I think,..this fight is going to get Politically
Ugly!:)

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 11:32 AM

“Just a few days after Christmas, more than one million of our fellow Americans lost a vital economic lifeline – the temporary insurance that helps folks make ends meet while they look for a job. Republicans in Congress went home for the holidays and let that lifeline expire. And for many of their constituents who are unemployed through no fault of their own, that decision will leave them with no income at all.”

Really, you pig of the land…Reid and you went ‘home’ too, you god-damned swine. May all the media die in your azz, suffocated from your shit.

p.s. sincere apologies to the good/clean and not hypocritical pigs.

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Ayotte is the biggest harlot in DC, right after Rubio.

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:35 AM

“Just a few days after Christmas, more than one million of our fellow Americans lost a vital economic lifeline – the temporary insurance that helps folks make ends meet while they look for a job.
Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:33 AM

I’d like to know what the definition of temporary means?

MontanaMmmm on January 7, 2014 at 11:36 AM

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Frank Thorp V ‏@frankthorpNBC 2m

Boehner, in stmt, says UI ext.

“should not only be paid for but include something to help put people back to work.”

canopfor on January 7, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Anyway, I’d be considered “over qualified” for anything like that, and no one would want to hire me, for fear that I’d find low-skill, low-wage jobs “boring”.

LibraryGryffon on January 7, 2014 at 11:20 AM

You should try. I always found that not to be true. I was laid off from IT jobs and was always able to find “unskilled” work while looking for other jobs.

Also you should try for the IT jobs you mentioned. They NEED people with good literary and people skills. And they DO NOT want to do those things themselves. They will teach you the tech stuff you need to know. Go to their workplace and talk to them.

Also check for tech companies that work on healthcare management software. Booming field and lots of jobs for writers and people who can communicate. If you can speak and write in Adult English instead of techie they will hire you.

kcewa on January 7, 2014 at 11:39 AM

It amazes me that some people on this site still believe that republicans are going to save the country. Most of them are in the same “club” as the demonrats and are looking out for themselves. How many times do you have to get shafted before you realize these politicians do not give a rat’s patoot about the “people”.

johnny reb on January 7, 2014 at 11:40 AM

I’d like to know what the definition of temporary means?

MontanaMmmm on January 7, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Like his obama’care’ exemptions…it all depends on who gets them and for how long…

This not not about unempl. which expired a long time ago…this is about more mooching welfare goons.

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Dear US Senate,

I am against the extension of unemployment benefits. It is time that we stop hiding Obama’s lousy economic record and lack of jobs creation behind social welfare. Stop saddling our children with massive debt and lack of economic opportunity just because the lazy stupid coward in the White House can’t shuck and jive America back from massive unemployment- all of his making.

Happy Nomad on January 7, 2014 at 11:42 AM

MontanaMmmm on January 7, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Congratulations on your job. Also, I didn’t see you mope about not finding a perfect job, in your field.

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:42 AM

I’d like to know what the definition of temporary means?

MontanaMmmm on January 7, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Dems: “The optics of a three digit number are bad. Let’s go with 99.”

blammm on January 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Demand a Pay For…

but, that would mean the Senate would have to demonstrate responsible governance.

Oh, the Humanity!

Another Drew on January 7, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Excellent read

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2014 at 11:47 AM

All true, but if you are a 40- or 50-something with a mortgage and kids in school and a spouse with a decent job, moving is a much more difficult proposition. Many of these long-term unemployed are middle-aged white collar workers and they are often deemed overqualified for those lesser jobs and do not even get interviews for them. A lot of them also still have homes with underwater mortgages so they cannot sell and move either. I have a neighbor in this predicament after his accounting/finance job was moved to India, and he is now driving a limo.

I was very very lucky to get my current job after not working fulltime for 3 years, and I have a 100-mile-a-day commute and took a 30% pay cut from my previous job.

rockmom on January 7, 2014 at 10:42 AM

You pegged my demo there. and I’m glad you found work. I’m also glad I’m not doing the 2 hour commute anymore. A year of that was about enough.

My wife had problems with the “overqualified” issue until she removed her advanced degrees from the resume’ to get her foot in the door at a job. got hired as basically an office manager, but got promoted once they realized her abilities.

Anyway, I don’t have a problem with 1 yr UC max, but this trend toward endless benefits is definitely holding people back. I know people who have directly admitted it to me.

forest on January 7, 2014 at 11:48 AM

LibraryGryffon on January 7, 2014 at 11:20 AM

I wasn’t attacking you. I think it’s idiotic that the policy is set up in such a way that there are dropoffs in benefits which create a clear disincentive to work X more hours in a week or hold out until a job pays Y dollars an hour. If they’re going to have these benefits, the benefits should slope off so that people aren’t trading off $2 dollars in benefits for $1 dollar in salary.

blammm on January 7, 2014 at 11:51 AM

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