Christie on New Jersey’s DREAM Act: Despite what you see in Washington, government actually can work for you

posted at 6:41 pm on January 7, 2014 by Allahpundit

That’s the money quote from today’s speech, which is right in line with Scott Walker’s approach and also in line with Henry Olsen’s populist prescription in the new issue of National Affairs. We’re two years out from the first primaries but you can already see the centrist Republican message taking shape. The tea partiers may be anti-government but the RINOs want smaller government that actually works:

Republicans and conservatives can succeed only if they come home to Reagan’s vision of America. That vision sees government as a danger but not an enemy, and looks for ways to make it useful rather than harmful to the advancement of a free society. It is a vision in line with the spiritual heritage of Lincoln’s Republican Party — one that gives average people a hand up, not a hand out.

Many conservatives fear that this vision means Republicans will become the second party of big government, but that need not be true. Enabling government to do what it should do also involves pulling it back from all that it should not be doing. Fully implementing this vision would create smaller government because, over the years, we have extended so many handouts to people in all classes who do not need or deserve them. Congressional Republicans have tried to rein in entitlement spending in recent years, but they have failed, in large part because they are using arguments that do not resonate with the majority of the electorate. If Republicans instead simply restored the historical hand-up approach to government, they could shrink the size of the state by as much as or more than their recent budget proposals have suggested — all while increasing the political appeal of the conservative agenda.

Finding this new path will require both new rhetoric and new policy. First and foremost, however, it requires a renewed emphasis on an old goal: helping the common man advance in life. This has long been the driving purpose of American politics and the stated aim of just about every successful political coalition in our history. But in many respects it has ceased to be the goal of the Republican Party, and it needs to become so again…

If conservatives can understand that they are the party of government by and for the people as opposed to the party that wants to repeal all government entirely — that they are the party of a hand up rather than the party of the handout or of hands-off government — then, and only then, can they continue to lead America further on what Ronald Reagan called mankind’s journey from the swamp to the stars.

Every statement Christie makes about his own administration for the next three years will include some contrast between Washington dysfunction and can-do blue-state Republican policymaking. Yes, even on immigration. Business Insider seems surprised to find him taking ownership of a hot button like the DREAM Act given that it almost singlehandedly popped Rick Perry’s balloon at the 2012 debates, but it makes sense strategically. Perry’s problem wasn’t that he embraced in-state tuition for young illegals per se, it’s that he did it while trying to present himself as the conservative champion who’d stop Romney. Christie doesn’t need to worry about that. His path to the nomination is to hold and then expand on Romney’s centrist “electability” voters from 2012 while hoping/trusting that the conservative vote will split among several candidates. Embracing immigration reform — modestly, for the most sympathetic class of illegals — will endear him to his base.

He’s unlikely to be attacked for it by the other candidates the way Perry was, too. Enough ink has been spilled about the growing Latino electorate that even conservatives like Ted Cruz who’ll take an anti-amnesty line if they run won’t hit Christie too hard for fear of alienating votes they’ll need in the general. (How mad at him can they get knowing that the House majority leader, who heads a caucus that includes dozens of tea partiers, has been working on a bill similar to DREAM for months?) If anything, it’s Christie who might relish the opportunity to attack. He can’t hit border hawks too hard either lest he offend conservatives he needs for the general, but I suspect he’s already angling to orchestrate a low-key “Sistah Souljah moment” with some DREAM opponent to impress independents, centrist Democrats, and Latinos. I’d be shocked, in fact, if footage from today’s speech doesn’t end up in one of his ads. He didn’t force a bunch of cute, fidgety kids to serve as his backdrop here just to impress Jersey voters who already reelected him.

Exit question: Will the GOP help enact some federal version of DREAM before the election? BuzzFeed had a piece yesterday arguing that immigration reform is dead this year, but read the fine print and you’ll see that they’re referring to comprehensive reform specifically. Small measures — like DREAM — are still in play. If it ends up passing, then Christie’s no longer the RINO outlier so much as he is the guy who was ahead of the curve.



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Nice spin, high RINO appeal…but just not true.Name the gov’t program that delivers anything efficiently…not there!
Guaranteed losing strategy…”we’ll run big gov’t better!!11!!”

winston on January 7, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Every statement Christie makes about his own administration for the next three years will include some contrast between Washington dysfunction and can-do blue-state Republican policymaking.

And he’ll make a compelling VP candidate for whatever creature becomes the Dem nominee. If he can beat out Martin O’Malley for the nod.

Happy Nomad on January 7, 2014 at 6:44 PM

No, sir.

You are not telling the truth.

And I do not care one whit for what party you affiliate with.

Someone, please, offer him one thin mint.

turfmann on January 7, 2014 at 6:45 PM

If conservatives can understand that they are the party of government by and for the people as opposed to the party that wants to repeal all government entirely

So straw men are what we have to look forward to from Christie?

Kataklysmic on January 7, 2014 at 6:46 PM

but I suspect he’s already angling to orchestrate a low-key “Sistah Souljah moment” with some DREAM opponent to impress independents, centrist Democrats, and Latinos.

Not a single one of which will wind up casting a ballot for him over Hillary.

Kataklysmic on January 7, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Chris Christie is a pro-illegal alien amnesty liberal.

This man must not come close to the GOP nomination. I will never, ever, ever vote for this slob Christie.

Shame on Ed Morrissey, Guy Benson and other so-called “conservatives” for promoting Chris Christie. Anyone who promotes Chris Christie, when we potentially have much better conservative options, is essentially declaring that they hate conservatives and want to see a Democrat elected president in 2016.

bluegill on January 7, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Not watching. I know what Christie is all about, and a “government works” pitch would probably make me projectile vomit at this point.

….but does he grope any of the pre-teen girls like he did at the hot dog place?

ElectricPhase on January 7, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Christie’s no longer the RINO outlier so much as he is the guy who was ahead of the curve.

Christie is ALWAYS ahead of the curve.

timberline on January 7, 2014 at 6:51 PM

If Republicans instead simply restored the historical hand-up approach to government, they could shrink the size of the state by as much as or more than their recent budget proposals have suggested — all while increasing the political appeal of the conservative agenda.

Alleges facts not in evidence. We grow tired of the “We will cut budgets next time” crowd.

“If pigs had wings they could fly” is not a sober and sound strategy.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on January 7, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Illegal immigrants say, “Thanks, fat man.”

BuckeyeSam on January 7, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Sorry, I live in New Jersey. Let me tell you what Mr. Can do can do:

1. Raise your property taxes 20% in one year (that’s $2,000 for me)
2. Allow same sex marriage
3. Allow amnesty, even though it took my daughter in law 1 year to be able to come to this country legally with her husband.
4. Allows me to pay twice as much for the kids in my town to attend the same school as the town next door.
5. Scolds anyone who disagrees.

This guy is nothing but a fat blowhard. Do you really want someone who can’t take care of himself attempting to “take care” (get things done) of you? Good luck folks.

el hombre on January 7, 2014 at 6:54 PM

When government “works for me”, it really I have to work more because the government has taken more from me.

SouthernGent on January 7, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Uh not working. Donut Boy is anti-gun and pro-amnesty. It isn’t happening no matter how much the MSM wants it to.

Johnnyreb on January 7, 2014 at 6:55 PM

So who wants Christie? Do we want 9% unemployment, high taxes, and no respect for the law?

TAARP on January 7, 2014 at 7:00 PM

if the whale becomes the nominee (much to the delite of Juan McCain)
I will certainly stay home.

conservative tarheel on January 7, 2014 at 7:00 PM

if hes the one I can save gas that day in Nov 2016 by staying home. hes a liar and a bully.

dmacleo on January 7, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Despite what you see in Washington, government actually can work for you

I guess.

John Gotti used to put on fireworks displays on the 4th of July too, so…

Akzed on January 7, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Illegal immigrants say, “Thanks, fat man.”

BuckeyeSam on January 7, 2014 at 6:53 PM

That would be “Gracias gordo” en Espanol.

terryannonline on January 7, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Christie’s only accomplishment is he got elected. Other than that, he hasn’t done anything.

TAARP on January 7, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Sorry, I live in New Jersey. Let me tell you what Mr. Can do can do:
1. Raise your property taxes 20% in one year (that’s $2,000 for me)
2. Allow same sex marriage
3. Allow amnesty, even though it took my daughter in law 1 year to be able to come to this country legally with her husband.
4. Allows me to pay twice as much for the kids in my town to attend the same school as the town next door.
5. Scolds anyone who disagrees.
This guy is nothing but a fat blowhard. Do you really want someone who can’t take care of himself attempting to “take care” (get things done) of you? Good luck folks.
el hombre on January 7, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Well said.

Chris Christie is no conservative.

I say we nominate an actual conservative this time.

bluegill on January 7, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Nope. No RINO. No GOPe.

LIB

davidk on January 7, 2014 at 7:03 PM

Perry’s problem wasn’t that he embraced in-state tuition for young illegals per se…

The real problem was that he said that anyone that didn’t agree with his position on tuition was “heartless.” Not good. Perry could have to a large degree just glossed it over and more or less changed the subject. But no. And keep in mind that Perry was suffering from his back surgery, and wasn’t thinking at 100%. Now he’s MUCH better. Of course Perry’s major debate error was.. the oops!

anotherJoe on January 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM

‘You” = illegal aliens

Wigglesworth on January 7, 2014 at 7:05 PM

Let the Vichy GOP die, already.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM

The tea partiers may be anti-government but the RINOs want smaller government that actually works

Wrong. The tea partiers want smaller government that works (limited to the areas where government is necessary). The RINOs want bigger government. Whether or not they want it to work, I don’t know. But, the evidence suggests not.

– Christie: government actually can work for you.

– Reagan: The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’

besser tot als rot on January 7, 2014 at 7:11 PM

If conservatives can understand that they are the party of government by and for the people as opposed to the party that wants to repeal all government entirely — that they are the party of a hand up rather than the party of the handout or of hands-off government

Since when is the term people defined to include illegal immigrants? I would have thought it was defined by U.S. citizens–you know, the people who are eligible to vote.

Someone needs to thank fat man for perpetuating the anarchy-strawman.

Finally, has anyone determined what kind of a college tuition break the kids of a fat-*ss, two-term NJ governor get?

BuckeyeSam on January 7, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Perry’s problem wasn’t that he embraced in-state tuition for young illegals per se…

Yes, it was. Then he just added to it.

Illegals have no business in this nation. Period. They are citizens of other nations, where they belong. They have no right to stay here, let alone to start getting tax dollars and benefits. That is just pure insanity and as offensive as it gets.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 7, 2014 at 7:11 PM

“We can do big government better than the Democrats!”

No. Thank. You.

Meremortal on January 7, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Sorry, I live in New Jersey. Let me tell you what Mr. Can do can do:

1. Raise your property taxes 20% in one year (that’s $2,000 for me)
2. Allow same sex marriage
3. Allow amnesty, even though it took my daughter in law 1 year to be able to come to this country legally with her husband.
4. Allows me to pay twice as much for the kids in my town to attend the same school as the town next door.
5. Scolds anyone who disagrees.

This guy is nothing but a fat blowhard. Do you really want someone who can’t take care of himself attempting to “take care” (get things done) of you? Good luck folks.

el hombre on January 7, 2014 at 6:54 PM

…see how fatso is painted for the rest of the country…when the media is on their knees…like, they were for the chosen one…

KOOLAID2 on January 7, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Perry’s problem wasn’t that he embraced in-state tuition for young illegals per se…

The real problem was that he said that anyone that didn’t agree with his position on tuition was “heartless.” Not good.

anotherJoe on January 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Totally agree. Perry’s position on in-state tuition is arguably defensible on the basis that Texas has to deal with the illegal aliens that are in the state in whatever way they can since the federal government refuses to deal with illegal aliens in accordance with federal law. But the “heartless” comment was the height of stupidity. Much worse, as far as I’m concerned, than the “oops” fiasco. Relying on leftists demonization tactics of your base is just dumb – Romney did the same thing calling Social Security reform a “Perry Scheme.”

besser tot als rot on January 7, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Two-thirds of the kids in Union City, NJ need glasses? What’s up with that?

Oh, and you probably paid for all of them too.

IrishEi on January 7, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Exit question: Will the GOP help enact some federal version of DREAM before the election? BuzzFeed had a piece yesterday arguing that immigration reform is dead this year, but read the fine print and you’ll see that they’re referring to comprehensive reform specifically. Small measures — like DREAM — are still in play. If it ends up passing, then Christie’s no longer the RINO outlier so much as he is the guy who was ahead of the curve.

All this “small measure” , “step-by-step” and “piecemeal approach” BS is just that, nothing but disingenuous establishment talking points. If the Senate passed five 200 page bills instead of one 1,000 page bill the final result would be exactly the same.

The establishment is in for a rude awakening. I can count on two hands the number of hardcore anti-Romney posters on HA in 2012. Yes, there were many arguments that blew up entire threads, but it was the same people over and over. Now it is completely reversed. I can count on 2 hands the number of establishment backers on this site. Bloggers keep writing things like “It won’t hurt blah blah blah”. We heard that with Romney when the base wasn’t in total revolt like they are now.

Wigglesworth on January 7, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Christie is the guy with the Obama selfie during the election, right?

faraway on January 7, 2014 at 7:18 PM

what “common man” is he referring to? the dream act does not help me, so what about me? i am a common man, albeit born here in the united states, so i guess that disqualifies me…

jetch on January 7, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Illegals have no business in this nation. Period. They are citizens of other nations, where they belong. They have no right to stay here, let alone to start getting tax dollars and benefits. That is just pure insanity and as offensive as it gets.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 7, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Not much a state governor can do if the feds refuse to follow the law. The state cannot deport them, so they can either make their lives miserable and hope they leave – but may end up with an underclass who harms society – or expect that they’ll stay no matter what and try to educate them and have them contribute to society. Being from California, I’m a little leery of the former approach giving how Prop 187 and its fallout seems to have contributed to the destruction of any conservatism or fiscal responsibility in the state.

besser tot als rot on January 7, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Still haven’t decided if the GOP and DP are actually in cahoots, or just happen to be swindling the American people in pretty much the same ways? I’d just like to really know who the Don is that mediates their turf wars, but makes sure that the syndicate as a whole progresses and is profitable for everyone.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 7, 2014 at 7:21 PM

repeal government entirely

Nice to see the GOPe using democrat lies. AP can’t even hammer Christie for that.

Wigglesworth on January 7, 2014 at 7:22 PM

repeal government entirely

Nice to see the GOPe using democrat lies. AP can’t even hammer Christie for that.

Wigglesworth on January 7, 2014 at 7:22 PM

One of the stupidest of the brain-dead strawmen.

besser tot als rot on January 7, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Hey Christie Cream…tell us what a fantastic job big gubnut has done on the Jersey shore since the hurricane. I mean it is all better than ever right?

trs on January 7, 2014 at 7:24 PM

“We can do big government better than the Democrats!”

No. Thank. You.

Meremortal on January 7, 2014 at 7:12 PM

…and what winston said too…about efficiency!…they just are all POS!

KOOLAID2 on January 7, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Hey Christie Cream…tell us what a fantastic job big gubnut has done on the Jersey shore since the hurricane. I mean it is all better than ever right?

trs on January 7, 2014 at 7:24 PM

He’s just lucky Bush isn’t President. Or we’d still be talking about what a disaster it is and how the President and the Governor are both incompetent to the point of malfeasance.

besser tot als rot on January 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Anti gun, pro amnesty, what’s not to love.

When does Blimp inform us that Killary would make a great preznit.

Bishop on January 7, 2014 at 7:26 PM

I’m baking donuts in the shape of small government, lower taxes, and following the constitution.
Toad Load here has some of the highest property taxes in the country and he believes in gun control, but if he can eat conservative values, it will change his RINO ways.
98% in love with Cuomo!

AllahsNippleHair on January 7, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Perry’s problem wasn’t that he embraced in-state tuition for young illegals per se…

The real problem was that he said that anyone that didn’t agree with his position on tuition was “heartless.” Not good.
anotherJoe on January 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM

That was the point Perry’s campaign started to unravel. I still supported him and would have voted for him had he stayed in the race, but I couldn’t blame anyone for jumping off the Perry train after that. Perry ran about as bad of a campaign imaginable for someone with his political history. A lot of people forget that pre-debates Perry had a big lead over Romney and I think he would have been the nominee with even a decent campaign.

midgeorgian on January 7, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Common Men like me always seem to take the shaft when these common man schemes get instituted. I should renounce my citizenship, sneak across the border, and demand everything right now, I would save quite a bit of money.

Bishop on January 7, 2014 at 7:31 PM

When does Blimp inform us that Killary would make a great preznit.

Bishop on January 7, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Depends. If he’s going to be the Dems VP choice (which I think will happen), it will be as soon as he’s got the nod. If not, he’ll announce his support of Killary just a few days before the election like he did when he endorsed Obama.

Happy Nomad on January 7, 2014 at 7:31 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 7, 2014 at 7:11 PM

besser tot als rot on January 7, 2014 at 7:14 PM

I agree with both of your. Maybe the TX situation gave Perry some degree of a possible extenuation type defense on in state tuition, but it was still problematic. Yet Perry took a situation that he could of backed out of to some degree, but then he just stepped right in it (the steaming pile). The “heartless” comment was really the first “oops.”

anotherJoe on January 7, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Christie on New Jersey’s DREAM Act: Despite what you see in Washington, government actually can work for you make crime pay off

fify

Valkyriepundit on January 7, 2014 at 7:32 PM

I’m sorry, but this government can be the answer spin is what I heard from Romney last time ’round.

Dongemaharu on January 7, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Clinton/Christie 2016. – There won’t even be room for conservatives in the back of the bus!

Wigglesworth on January 7, 2014 at 7:40 PM

besser tot als rot on January 7, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Sorry, besser, but I just don’t buy that. The state is not allowed to start extending legal privileges to illegals – none. And then, to allow illegals in state tuition – when they can’t be “in-state” since they are not legally “in country” – while charging actual citizens from other states more is as un-Constitutional and offensive as it gets. Clifornia’s recent admission of an illegal to the state bar shows you where such idiocy leads. An illegal as a member of the state bar!! You can’t get more ridiculous than that.

No. I give no leeway to states doing anything to help illegals in any way. The state’s responsibility is to the citizenry and legal aliens that we invited to stay. For them to do anything for illegals is to violate the Constitution (which was written for the citizenry – “secure the Blessings of Liberty TO OURSELVES AND TO OUR POSTERITY”) and to offend the intellect. Driver’s licenses, allowing them to attend state universities (forget in-state tuition), anything of the sort is totally unacceptable.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 7, 2014 at 7:42 PM

repeal government entirely

Nice to see the GOPe using democrat lies. AP can’t even hammer Christie for that.

Wigglesworth on January 7, 2014 at 7:22 PM

I’d be all for paring government down to what the Constitution said its structure should be and then starting over.

On second thought, we’d probably just end up with the same bureaucracies and then some.

Most Americans are completely convinced that every square inch of the Federal government is just so vital to our very survival, and an increasing number are in fact dependent upon it for money and services they cannot afford on their own.

As a group, our collective inability to spend wisely, save properly, and to generally be more independent economically has enslaved us. People who live paycheck to paycheck are going to be much more open to government than those who feel they can do fine without it.

Just wait until they control all of our retirement/pension investments and our very bank accounts.

You ain’t seen nothing yet.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 7, 2014 at 7:50 PM

What’s the difference between an 18-year-old who was brought to the US illegally when he was 2, and one who was born here the day after his parents came here illegally? One gets in-state tuition without question while the other shouldn’t?

I guess I am a RINO now for even asking that question.

rockmom on January 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Something to think about for those who think it was wrong for conservatives to Primary Richard Lugar because he had an ‘R’ after his name and support Christie for the same reason:

GOP senator ousted by Tea Party challenger donates to Democratic Senate hopeful in Georgia

Former Sen. Richard Lugar, a Republican, has given the maximum amount of money allowed under federal campaign finance laws to a candidate who hopes to help Democrats retain the Senate in the 2014 election.

Michelle Nunn used the $5,000 donation to appeal to conservative Georgia voters. “I am immensely honored and grateful for Senator Lugar’s generous support in this race,” she said. “Both in the Senate and in the international community, Senator Lugar’s collaborative approach made us safer and moved our country forward. We need more leaders like Senator Lugar — not less, and I will strive to follow this legacy in the U.S. Senate.”

kcewa on January 7, 2014 at 7:55 PM

One gets in-state tuition without question while the other shouldn’t?

rockmom on January 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM

One is an American citizen (whether it’s an abuse of the 14th amendment or not) and the other is an illegal.

What is so hard to understand about illegals? It’s not that they don’t have citizenship. They do. Just in another country, where they belong. They don’t belong here – I don’t care what age they arrived at. When found, they should be deported and they should not be allowed to return. There are BILLIONS of people who are dying to come here and willing to do it legally. Those who would spit on our sovereignty and force themselves on us have no business here and should never be allowed to return once they have shown such contempt for us and our nation.

This ain’t rocket science.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 7, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Government is NOT supposed to “work for us.” It just needs to NOT work against us.
Saying that “government should work for us” implies government getting pro-actively involved. We don’t NEED government getting pro-actively involved, we need government getting the (expletive) OUT OF OUR WAY.

listens2glenn on January 7, 2014 at 8:14 PM

You know, there are a lot of non-NJ residents that are US citizens that attend college in NJ and pay full tuition.

Kids of illegal immigrants are now getting more favored status in NJ than US citizens.

If that were my kid, they’d be finding another state to attend.

Midas on January 7, 2014 at 8:17 PM

So let me get this straight. My children born in the US cannot get in state tuition in NJ but children born IN PUEBLA MEXICO can??
These people need stopping.
I will NEVER vote for Christie.

Thicklugdonkey on January 7, 2014 at 8:17 PM

but, but, but, but joe scarborough believes chris christie is just the type of republican this country needs.

renalin on January 7, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Sorry, besser, but I just don’t buy that. The state is not allowed to start extending legal privileges to illegals – none. And then, to allow illegals in state tuition – when they can’t be “in-state” since they are not legally “in country” – while charging actual citizens from other states more is as un-Constitutional and offensive as it gets. Clifornia’s recent admission of an illegal to the state bar shows you where such idiocy leads. An illegal as a member of the state bar!! You can’t get more ridiculous than that.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 7, 2014 at 7:42 PM

A couple of points:

1. I don’t necessarily think that in-state tuition for illegal aliens residing in a state is a good idea. I just think that there is an argument for it and that the argument for it is a lot less stupid than calling the people who disagree with it “heartless.”

2. Come on – they’re lawyers. If an illegal alien wants to debase himself by becoming a lawyer, we shouldn’t stop him, we should pity him.

besser tot als rot on January 7, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Wow, Christie with his own set of potted plants – illegal ones. On television, standing behind the executive officer of the state – the one charged with enforcing the law or something.

We are through the looking-glass, friends. We may as well be arguing that they’re wrong when they insist that 2+2=orange, there’s so much more than simply disagreement on things nowadays, it’s really down to sane and insane.

The economy is great, so we need more unemployment insurance to help the people suffering that can’t find jobs in this terrific economy (unemployment insurance creates jobs, you know!), and let’s help them out further by adding millions of workers and all of the families that will cascade in on their coattails – that will really help the unemployed!

Midas on January 7, 2014 at 8:27 PM

One gets in-state tuition without question while the other shouldn’t?

rockmom on January 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM

As I’ve mentioned, I do not think that it is an open and shut case. I think that there are arguments for and against it. That said, however, we shouldn’t even be in the situation since the federal government should enforce federal immigration laws. If it did, we wouldn’t even have to discuss what provides for the better outcome in a state – in-state tuition for illegal aliens, or withholding all services (as legally permissible anyway – there are federal laws that the feds will enforce).

besser tot als rot on January 7, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Wow, Christie with his own set of potted plants – illegal ones. On television, standing behind the executive officer of the state – the one charged with enforcing the law or something.

Midas on January 7, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Actually, as we found out in the cases where the federal government sued the state of Arizona, Christie has zero power to enforce federal immigration laws.

besser tot als rot on January 7, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Enough ink has been spilled about the growing Latino electorate that even conservatives like Ted Cruz who’ll take an anti-amnesty line if they run won’t hit Christie too hard for fear of alienating votes they’ll need in the general.

Ted Cruz ‘anti-amnesty’? Not unless you count taking the position that he doesn’t want citizenship for newly legalized formerly illegal aliens… while he hands them all a brand new green card…as being ‘anti-amnesty’.

Ted Cruz on immigration at Texas Tribune Fest 2013

And if you prefer it in print: On immigration Ted Cruz aims for the middle ground

And… not only does Cruz back a green card for all illegal aliens currently at large in this nation… he also wants to triple legal immigration.

Cruz suggests a new piece of ‘border security’ legislation. Unfortunately, he doesn’t suggest that it be front loaded with enforcement for a certain time period before the green cards are handed out. We’ve already had a tougher border security law passed in 2009. The Obama administration has refused to enforce it. Do we really believe that this administration would enforce this border security legislation?

And…how long post legalization do we suppose it would be before the Democrats and the newly legalized formerly illegal aliens began to push for citizenship all around on the grounds that the GOP had relegated these newly legalized formerly illegal aliens to a second class status, thus depriving them of “The American Dream”?

thatsafactjack on January 7, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Wow, Christie with his own set of potted plants – illegal ones. On television, standing behind the executive officer of the state – the one charged with enforcing the law or something.

Midas on January 7, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Actually, as we found out in the cases where the federal government sued the state of Arizona, Christie has zero power to enforce federal immigration laws.

besser tot als rot on January 7, 2014 at 8:30 PM

It’s the juxtaposition that’s illustrative.

There are places where local police don’t have jurisdiction, but lawbreakers still won’t generally parade around in their presence.

Midas on January 7, 2014 at 9:01 PM

And…how long post legalization do we suppose it would be before the Democrats and the newly legalized formerly illegal aliens began to push for citizenship all around on the grounds that the GOP had relegated these newly legalized formerly illegal aliens to a second class status, thus depriving them of “The American Dream”?

thatsafactjack on January 7, 2014 at 8:59 PM

No longer than it will take them to walk to the pre-arranged press conference immediately after passing the legalization bill.

Midas on January 7, 2014 at 9:04 PM

I can sleep well at night now knowing Christie believes government can work well for people who are citizens of another country that it shouldn’t be working for in the first place.

xblade on January 7, 2014 at 9:12 PM

2. Come on – they’re lawyers. If an illegal alien wants to debase himself by becoming a lawyer, we shouldn’t stop him, we should pity him.

besser tot als rot on January 7, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Heh :)

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 7, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Allahpundit says: ‘The tea partiers may be anti-government but the RINOs want smaller government that actually works.’

Of course, Allahpundit takes this story. Of course, his statement is a misrepresentation & so extreme at that it’s pathetic.

Salem Communications, Inc: As an organization, you, like the politician Chris Christie & like the Salem propaganda agent Allahpundit, are getting to be more & more & more pathetic.

ABLOGMAN on January 7, 2014 at 9:22 PM

If you are an illegal immigrant, I want you the hell out of this country. You don’t belong here. You don’t deserve to be here. Either you get the hell out now, or we deport you. That’s what should happen.

bluegill on January 7, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Perry’s balloon popped because he called his base “heartless” for not agreeing with him on in state tuition. George W Bush essentially called his base racist for not agreeing with him on amnesty. Both men saw their numbers plummet shortly afterward.

I doubt so called “DREAM” legislation will be a deal breaker for an otherwise strong GOP candidate, but support for full on amnesty and insulting the base is political suicide.

Daemonocracy on January 8, 2014 at 1:03 AM

Just another pandering politician with no respect for our immigration laws.

Unbelievable that he maundered on about how we should “maximize our investment” rather than asking himself why taxpayers are being forced to “invest” in foreign citizens to begin with. Why the hell do these people think we owe something to any sneak thief who crosses our border in the dead of night?

Murf76 on January 8, 2014 at 1:07 AM

Krispy Kreme has higher UE rate in his state than Barry has in the nation. Property taxes are up, up, up. You know what that means? It means he has saved the rich income tax and pushed the cost of that on the middle class. Just. Like. Cuomo. Yup. He’s some big fat hero, isn’t he. Run this piece of filth in 2016 and say hello to President Clinton.

magicbeans on January 8, 2014 at 7:02 AM

Christie continues to prove that he is a raging liberal, and an obama operative.

Pork-Chop on January 8, 2014 at 7:44 AM

So just for fun, how much is this going to increase in state tuition for everybody? Or isn’t it?

magicbeans on January 8, 2014 at 9:22 AM