Scott Walker to tea partiers: Let’s focus on taking out Democrats, not our fellow Republicans

posted at 2:41 pm on January 6, 2014 by Allahpundit

Some righties are grumbling about this, but c’mon. No one expects a Republican governor who’s up for reelection in a blue state to lead the “throw the RINOs out!” movement. Besides, this makes strategic sense if I’m right about Walker’s niche in the 2016 field. I see him as an establishment/tea party “hybrid” candidate who’ll challenge Christie from the right (especially on social issues) and whoever emerges as the tea-party favorite from the center (especially on immigration). His war with the left over collective bargaining reform in Wisconsin is already so legendary that there’s practically nothing he could do to ruin his conservative cred before the primaries. He’ll be acceptable to tea partiers. His task now is to make sure he’s acceptable to establishmentarians too before they settle on Christie and one obvious way to do that is to discourage tea partiers from challenging Republican incumbents. He opposed the shutdown for similar reasons, I assume, saying at the time, “I support limited government. But I want the government left to work.” That might well be his 2016 campaign slogan — and Christie’s too. Christie will simply have a harder time selling it to righties than Walker will. There may well be a new debt-ceiling standoff next month over ObamaCare (or maybe not). How do you suppose Walker will come down on that one?

Is this true, though?

[G]o and help in those elections [against vulnerable Democrats] and elect new Republicans because a year from now things will be much different if Republicans hold the United States Senate.

How? Obama might have to use his veto a lot more next year, but that’s fine by him. He’s a lame duck. At best, forcing a lightning rod like O to play goalie against GOP initiatives instead of leaving it to Harry Reid will free up a few centrist Democrats like Joe Manchin to vote with Republicans on hot-button issues knowing that they have no chance of becoming law. And this assumes, of course, that Republicans build on Reid’s precedent and nuke what’s left of the filibuster so that they can pass bills through the Senate with a simple majority. I’m not sure they will. They gain nothing politically from it given the reality of O’s veto and they’ll take a predictable beating for it from lefty hacks in the media (all of whom cheered Reid for nuking the filibuster vis-a-vis executive appointments). Worse, Democrats will be primed to exploit the new rule in 2017: It’s the GOP that’ll be defending the lion’s share of vulnerable seats in the 2016 election, which is bound to have higher Democratic turnout than usual because it’s a presidential election year. It’s worth nuking the rest of the filibuster if/when Republicans once again control the Senate and the White House. Before then, why?

The only important difference in having GOP control of the Senate next year is that Republicans will be able to veto Obama’s appointments, including/especially Supreme Court appointments. They can still do that now in theory since the filibuster remains in effect for SCOTUS nominees, but if someone on the Court resigns this year, it’s a cinch that Reid will go ahead and nuke that provision too. Having 51 Republicans for the last two years of O’s term would solve that problem going forward — if they hang together and vote unanimously against a bad Obama appointment. You trust Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, John McCain, and Mark Kirk to do that, don’t you?


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Still can’t help feeling I’m being scolded, over and over, by the establishment.

S. Weasel on January 6, 2014 at 2:42 PM

You might want to tell that to Rove and the CoC who are targeting conservatives.

Charlemagne on January 6, 2014 at 2:42 PM

If it’s Peter King, I have to disagree.

rbj on January 6, 2014 at 2:43 PM

He may as well be talking to himself…..

The Mob is already active – with pitchforks at the ready….

williamg on January 6, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Peter King needs to be taken out “by any means necessary”……

williamg on January 6, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Still can’t help feeling I’m being scolded, over and over, by the establishment.

S. Weasel on January 6, 2014 at 2:42 PM

You are being scolded. After all, they know so much better than you, having thrown the last two presidential elections. You should hang on Chrissy Tingles’ every word just like they do. Then you’d understand.

CurtZHP on January 6, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Talk to the establishment instead, Scott. They’re picking the fights.

22044 on January 6, 2014 at 2:45 PM

It’s getting mighty difficult to tell the difference between Democrats and some of “our fellow Republicans”.

Bitter Clinger on January 6, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Scott Walker is to the far left in the Tea Party.

Conservative Tea Party people do not much care what he thinks about saving RINOS. Many of us will vote against RINOs in the general as they are the greater of two evils. At least a Democrat does not lie about who he really is.

Steveangell on January 6, 2014 at 2:46 PM

I’ll happily vote for the entrenched lifers if they publicly agree to impeach Dog Eater for his illegal activities.

Bishop on January 6, 2014 at 2:46 PM

If it wasn’t for the TEA Party, you would be known as Fmr. MN Governor Walker.

Having 51 Republicans for the last two years of O’s term would solve that problem going forward — if they hang together and vote unanimously against a bad Obama appointment.

AllahP posting from Colorado now, obviously.

BobMbx on January 6, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Nope, not falling for it. I will only vote for conservatives, and I will vote against a Republican who is primaried because of his RINO votes. The existing Republican Party does not represent conservatives. They think that passing immigration reform will get them votes, go for it. I know most people are not contributing money to the Party, but giving it to the candidates they support directly.

lea on January 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM

ummm, let’s focus on taking out Progressives, wherever they may be.

faraway on January 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Arrrrghh…..Fmr. WI Governor, that is.

BobMbx on January 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Unfortunately, Governor Walker conveniently ignores the MASSIVE dysfunction of the GOPe and the MASSIVE corruption of the GOPe Donor Class which is supporting immigration “reform”, Obamacare and “business as usual in Washington, D.C.”.

Could this be he’s trying to ‘trinagulate” himself into a position where he can count on the financial support of the GOPe Donor Class for his 2016 run?

How’s that working out for Marco Rubio?

PolAgnostic on January 6, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Still can’t help feeling I’m being scolded, over and over, by the establishment.

S. Weasel on January 6, 2014 at 2:42 PM

You are being scolded. After all, they know so much better than you, having thrown the last two presidential elections. You should hang on Chrissy Tingles’ every word just like they do. Then you’d understand.

CurtZHP on January 6, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Talk to the establishment instead, Scott. They’re picking the fights.

22044 on January 6, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Scott is part of the establishment in this case and many others.

He is only nominally Tea Party. Very liberal for Tea Party.

Steveangell on January 6, 2014 at 2:48 PM

I’ll happily vote for the entrenched lifers if AFTER they publicly agree to impeach Dog Eater for his illegal activities.

Bishop on January 6, 2014 at 2:46 PM

.
FIFY

PolAgnostic on January 6, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Having 51 Republicans for the last two years of O’s term would solve that problem going forward — if they hang together and vote unanimously against a bad Obama appointment. You trust Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, John McCain, and Mark Kirk to do that, don’t you?

Uh, no. And that’s the problem. What Walker is saying when viewed in a bubble sounds just fine. But here in the real world, we’re all too aware of how easily the GOP caves to whatever Obama and Reid want(or even worse, they’re willingly going along with it). For chrissakes, the Republicans just got done passing a budget that rolls back the sequester, increases spending, raises taxes, AND cuts veterans’ benefits and now we’re being told by the likes of Scott Walker that we need to be team players and focus solely on the Democrats in the Senate?!

Doughboy on January 6, 2014 at 2:50 PM

I’ll happily vote for the entrenched lifers if they publicly agree to impeach Dog Eater for his illegal activities.

Bishop on January 6, 2014 at 2:46 PM

You mean the same way they said they were going to repeal Obamacare.

lea on January 6, 2014 at 2:50 PM

But what if they are Democrats? An R next to a name isn’t enough evidence to change their voting record.

Ukiah on January 6, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Scott Walker to tea partiers: Let’s focus on taking out Democrats, not our fellow Republicans

I’m okay with the message but actions speak louder than words. Is Walker saying “let’s work together” or is he saying STFU and do what your establishment masters say?

If the establishment GOP wants cooperation from Tea Party Republicans they need to start by treating them with at least as much respect as they do Democrats. They need to stop the snide comments, cheap shots, and hostile actions. And they need to take Tea Party positions seriously instead of screaming how pointless they are so long as the Dems own the Senate and White House.

Paul Ryans attack on military retirees does not bode well that Walker is looking for team building as much as the STFU strategy.

Happy Nomad on January 6, 2014 at 2:50 PM

But some of our fellow Republicans are democrats.

Dollayo on January 6, 2014 at 2:51 PM

You mean the same way they said they were going to repeal Obamacare.

lea on January 6, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Hey they’ve repeatedly told us they will repeal Obamacare…….. just not on this hill.

Ted Cruz is a hero when it comes to repeal. The surrender caucus, not so much.

Happy Nomad on January 6, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Authoritarian, progressive, crony-corporatist RINO’s are not allies, they’re my opponents, every bit as much as they are when they have D’s next to their names.

FloatingRock on January 6, 2014 at 2:52 PM

I see him as an establishment/tea party “hybrid” candidate who’ll challenge Christie from the right (especially on social issues) and whoever emerges as the tea-party favorite from the center (especially on immigration).

Because smaller government, lower taxes, and following the constitution and the LAW are so EXTREME!!!!!

Scott Walker or Chris Christie? I’ll take the Crapweasel in box C please.
It’s already begun, the choosing of the next GOP loser.

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on January 6, 2014 at 2:53 PM

His war with the left over collective bargaining reform in Wisconsin is already so legendary that there’s practically nothing he could do to ruin his conservative cred before the primaries.

Wanna bet?

joekenha on January 6, 2014 at 2:53 PM

My “disappointed list” is growing ever larger.
First Haley, then Rubio, now Walker….who’s next??

tencole on January 6, 2014 at 2:53 PM

The only important difference in having GOP control of the Senate next year is that Republicans will be able to veto Obama’s appointments, including/especially Supreme Court appointments.

If the RINO crowd gets the Senate, they will ram amnesty faster than you can say ‘screwed’

If tea party is not picked off by the Boehner-Chamber of Commerce crowd, the RINOs may be scared off

This is a very important election. A non RINO win would alter the momentum of the Presidential primaries. The primary will decide if the king makers get to annoint Christie/Ryan.

Walker is a hybrid. They are fishing out second bananas to see if they can appease the base. Trade you one Ryan for a Walker and a hair cut

entagor on January 6, 2014 at 2:53 PM

I know most people are not contributing money to the Party, but giving it to the candidates they support directly.

lea on January 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM

yep, and much more carefully too. Rubio refuses to send my money back to Texas.

DanMan on January 6, 2014 at 2:54 PM

You mean the same way they said they were going to repeal Obamacare.

lea on January 6, 2014 at 2:50 PM

I just want to hear them say it because no one is currently doing so.

As far as I’m concerned every federal pol is acting contrary to their Constitutional duties.

Bishop on January 6, 2014 at 2:54 PM

I’m okay with the message but actions speak louder than words. Is Walker saying “let’s work together” or is he saying STFU and do what your establishment masters say?

Happy Nomad on January 6, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Walker may be sincere in his effort to bring the party together, but I don’t believe for a second that the establishment types want any sort of unity. They’re looking for the base to fall in line and support every Republican either already in office or running this fall regardless of what their voting record looks like. I don’t when they’re gonna learn that unlike the Democrat base, we actually expect them to honor their campaign promises.

Doughboy on January 6, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Governor, I am done supporting people who do not represent my interests. I am done “picking the lesser of two evils”; in any election where I have a choice between a Democrat and a RINO, I will abstain.

And Governor, you need to decide where you stand, with the RINOs, with ALEC, or with conservatives. The dance you’ve been doing is starting to look pretty silly.

M240H on January 6, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Scott Walker is worse than an amnesty supporter, he supports open-borders: unrestricted legal immigration. Just throw open the gates and let America be overrun tens of millions to the benefit of multinational corporate/government cronies.

FloatingRock on January 6, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Shouldn’t Walker be addressing McCain, King, McConnell and Graham? Rubio decided to move over to the dark side. He’s pretty much destroyed his brand.

cajunpatriot on January 6, 2014 at 2:58 PM

That sounds good in theory but the problem is a lot of these Republicans are really bad and they need to taken out even if it means we lose the House and don’t get the senate.

Alright, that was sarcastic. But I understand the point that some RINOs are really actually not acceptable, especially the amnesty pushers. At minimum, push out the amnesty pushers, even if that means we lose those seats. Really. Amnesty is too important an issue to let our side be infected by it.

anotherJoe on January 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM

Scott Walker is worse than an amnesty supporter, he supports open-borders: unrestricted legal immigration. Just throw open the gates and let America be overrun tens of millions to the benefit of multinational corporate/government cronies.

FloatingRock on January 6, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Not what he said. Please provide a contrary quote froma reliable source if you can.

M240H on January 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM

You mean the same way they said they were going to repeal Obamacare.

lea on January 6, 2014 at 2:50 PM

I just want to hear them say it because no one is currently doing so.

As far as I’m concerned every federal pol is acting contrary to their Constitutional duties.

Bishop on January 6, 2014 at 2:54 PM

I want to stop hearing that Boehner is open to x y and z. I’d kick him in the pants if I knew it would actually hit something.

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on January 6, 2014 at 3:00 PM

Scott Walker to tea partiers: Let’s focus on taking out Democrats

Hopefully more effectively than the Packers were in the Red Zone yesterday…

Bruno Strozek on January 6, 2014 at 3:01 PM

Not what he said. Please provide a contrary quote froma reliable source if you can.

M240H on January 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM

No sweat!

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/22/gov-walker-wants-to-open-the-door-to-immigrants/

FloatingRock on January 6, 2014 at 3:02 PM

Tea Party to Scott Walker

We are and always have been!
Perhaps you should learn to recognize those Democrats that have the R after their names!

jaydee_007 on January 6, 2014 at 3:03 PM

It’s getting mighty difficult to tell the difference between Democrats and some of “our fellow Republicans”.

Bitter Clinger on January 6, 2014 at 2:46 PM

So, you wouldn’t vote for Walker?

Vince on January 6, 2014 at 3:04 PM

Y’all will have to suit yourselves, but I’m still going to “hold my nose” and vote, in the general elections.

The only way to get rid of “progressive Republicans” is PRIMARIES.

listens2glenn on January 6, 2014 at 3:04 PM

And Governor, you need to decide where you stand, with the RINOs, with ALEC, or with conservatives. The dance you’ve been doing is starting to look pretty silly.

M240H on January 6, 2014 at 2:56 PM

I think he did that when he stared down the unions in WI. That took stones, especially in a blue state where the so-called progressive movement was said to start. Few potential candidates have done anything remotely close to that.

changer1701 on January 6, 2014 at 3:04 PM

Sure, Scott, I’ll vote for existing Republicans….IF they survive their primaries.

Kafir on January 6, 2014 at 3:05 PM

There was a time (not too long ago) that I would have agreed. I just don’t have the heart for it any more. I don’t believe the “R”s want to represent my views(which are based in liberty / small government). They just want the power and control, no different than the D’s. And they will vilify and come against me with the same vindictive spirit as the Ds if I disagree.

LilyBart on January 6, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Sure Scott… just as soon as the GOP stops pissing on us at every chance…Or how ’bout when the establishment-anointed candidate loses to a Tea Party candidate they don’t endorse the Dem as has happened in the past.

batter on January 6, 2014 at 3:06 PM

You bet…er, you go first…

Knott Buyinit on January 6, 2014 at 3:06 PM

The only way to get rid of “progressive Republicans” is PRIMARIES.

Which is why Boehner is waiting until after the primaries for amnesty.

LilyBart on January 6, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Not what he said. Please provide a contrary quote froma reliable source if you can.

M240H on January 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM

No sweat!

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/22/gov-walker-wants-to-open-the-door-to-immigrants/

FloatingRock on January 6, 2014 at 3:02 PM

Nothing there is an advocacy of “open borders” which you claimed. Yes, it was advocating enhanced “legal” immigration but not “open borders”.

You stated “he supports open-borders: unrestricted legal immigration”; he did not. Dial down the hysteria.

M240H on January 6, 2014 at 3:07 PM

His war with the left over collective bargaining reform in Wisconsin is already so legendary that there’s practically nothing he could do to ruin his conservative cred before the primaries.

Well the “get in line” shtick isn’t helping him any at the moment.

lynncgb on January 6, 2014 at 3:09 PM

Walker has already proved his Conservative creds in his fight with the Unions. He is 1000% more Conservative than Doughnut Man.

Johnnyreb on January 6, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Another pro amnesty establishment RINO lecturing us. I am not convinced at all the at a bunch of RINO’s in the majority would be a benefit. The last time they were in charge they blew it.

echosyst on January 6, 2014 at 3:10 PM

And Governor, you need to decide where you stand, with the RINOs, with ALEC, or with conservatives. The dance you’ve been doing is starting to look pretty silly.

M240H on January 6, 2014 at 2:56 PM

I think he did that when he stared down the unions in WI. That took stones, especially in a blue state where the so-called progressive movement was said to start. Few potential candidates have done anything remotely close to that.

changer1701 on January 6, 2014 at 3:04 PM

That put him standing in the conservative camp mostly because of the overlap with ALEC interests. Do not get me wrong, the majority of what Legislative Exchange proposes through model legislation I agree with, but there is divergence with the interests of the conservative ‘little guy’ … great divergence.

M240H on January 6, 2014 at 3:11 PM

How bout we focus on taking out Democrats AND anyone else who goes along with them?

dentarthurdent on January 6, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Mannah from Heaven for the RINO squishes

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM

If it wasn’t for the TEA Party, you would be known as Fmr. MN WI Governor Walker.
BobMbx on January 6, 2014 at 2:46 PM

minor fix….

dentarthurdent on January 6, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Nothing there is an advocacy of “open borders” which you claimed. Yes, it was advocating enhanced “legal” immigration but not “open borders”.

You stated “he supports open-borders: unrestricted legal immigration”; he did not. Dial down the hysteria.

M240H on January 6, 2014 at 3:07 PM

So if he advocates open-borders policies but without actually using the term “open borders”, then it’s not fair for us to call it what it is? I’m of a different opinion: if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and $#!T$ like a duck, it’s a duck.

FloatingRock on January 6, 2014 at 3:15 PM

Scott Walker is worse than an amnesty supporter, he supports open-borders: unrestricted legal immigration. Just throw open the gates and let America be overrun tens of millions to the benefit of multinational corporate/government cronies.

FloatingRock on January 6, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Where has he said that? Some references would be nice.

Johnnyreb on January 6, 2014 at 3:17 PM

Where has he said that? Some references would be nice.

Johnnyreb on January 6, 2014 at 3:17 PM

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/22/gov-walker-wants-to-open-the-door-to-immigrants/

FloatingRock on January 6, 2014 at 3:20 PM

There is some misunderstanding about the tea party efforts during the WI recalls. The tea partiers that went to Wisconsin did so because they wanted to break the unions and it was obvious that Walker was doing that. Only if he was a child molester would they have refrained.

Desperately seeking tea party friends reminds me of white people who say “I have several black friends” when they feel defensive or are being accused of racism.

Walker has thrown in with the kill-America-from-within crowd and if he stays in that boat, he’ll go down with the ship.

And I will channel my internal Rhett Butler.

platypus on January 6, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Nothing there is an advocacy of “open borders” which you claimed. Yes, it was advocating enhanced “legal” immigration but not “open borders”.

You stated “he supports open-borders: unrestricted legal immigration”; he did not. Dial down the hysteria.

M240H on January 6, 2014 at 3:07 PM

I agree with you.

I saw this line in the article: “For me, I’d open the door to making sure that people can legally come into the country,”

I WANT legal immigrants properly jumping thru the right hoops and background checks to be able to get here, and would support a more efficient process to do that.

People who will follow the law, who see and will take advantage of the opportunity to improve their lives are exactly who I want coming to America.

questionmark on January 6, 2014 at 3:22 PM

If Walker’s a “RINO,” then there are no “Republicans.”

BD57 on January 6, 2014 at 3:24 PM

People who will follow the law, who see and will take advantage of the opportunity to improve their lives are exactly who I want coming to America.

questionmark on January 6, 2014 at 3:22 PM

That’s exactly who I want coming to America to, but only in limited quantities, especially now that unemployment is so high.

FloatingRock on January 6, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Where the actual, clear political Center of the United States of America is on a few of the important issues of the day:

1) Obamacare sucks.
2) Our immigration laws should be vigorously enforced.
3) Our immigration laws should exist for the benefit of regular Americans, not for the benefit of the immigrants nor for the benefit of corporate America without regard to their effect on working Americans.
3) Leave our guns alone.

People on the Left who want to pretend someone holding those positions is on the Right is a liar. People in the Center should not play along with that lie.

I like Governor Walker. I sent him some of my hard earned money to help him stay Governor of Wisconsin. I do not regret that. I will not be sending him money to help him become President of the United States.

fadetogray on January 6, 2014 at 3:26 PM

OmahaConservative on January 6, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Thoughts and prayers for your sister, you and your family..So sorry for your loss..

Dire Straits on January 6, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Without the majority we have next to no power. Get past the party purity (which, as conservatives, we don’t really believe is a thing anyway) and just win.

Then don’t pass anything with “comprehensive” or “affordable” or “wage” in the title. Repeal all the crap. Close agencies. Spend only what comes in. Strong military. Blah, blah, blah.

But none of that happens until we win. If you root out all the RINOs and still are the rump party, you’re missing the big picture.

And none of this is going to happen until you educate your neighbor on why conservative (classical liberal) small govt is best.

jdpaz on January 6, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Throw them all out.

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2014 at 3:28 PM

It’s getting mighty difficult to tell the difference between Democrats and some of “our fellow Republicans”.

Bitter Clinger on January 6, 2014 at 2:46 PM

So, you wouldn’t vote for Walker?

Vince on January 6, 2014 at 3:04 PM

For Governor, sure.

For President, no. Amnesty is a deal-breaker for me.

Bitter Clinger on January 6, 2014 at 3:32 PM

Clarifying language: Politicians who call for amnesty before we actually trying to enforce our immigration laws is FOR OPEN BORDERS.

They are saying they want to encourage people who choose to break our laws and jump the line to get into the country. That is exactly what passing such an amnesty really means.

Saying that is not a form of open borders is a lie.

Is it exactly the same as passing a law that says, “Hey! Come one, come all, our borders are open!!”?

Of course not. There are varying degrees of openness to open borders.

fadetogray on January 6, 2014 at 3:34 PM

But some of our fellow Republicans are democrats.

Dollayo on January 6, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Mostly the Congressional “leadership”.

Steve Eggleston on January 6, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Thoughts and prayers for your sister, you and your family..So sorry for your loss..

Dire Straits on January 6, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Thank you…

OmahaConservative on January 6, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Let me know when someone like Walker issues a suggestion like that to Rove and the establishment folks who are trying to destroy conservatives. You know, something about targeting Democrats instead of conservatives.

And, yeah, I’m not that excited either about the grand and wonderful things that can result from a GOP majority in the Senate.

Midas on January 6, 2014 at 3:38 PM

For Governor, sure.

For President, no. Amnesty is a deal-breaker for me.

Bitter Clinger on January 6, 2014 at 3:32 PM

That’s how I feel, except if he continues to attack the tea party and promote amnesty and open-borders then I won’t support him for anything.

FloatingRock on January 6, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Whatever Gov. Walker. Play the game like a nice little triangulator. Im sorry but im tired of hearing pols defend the establishment. I know he cant come out and start bashing the brand, but trying to rope off some territory on the political fence for himself with a consideration for a possible Presidential run is repugnant to me at this point.

It just doesnt matter if the GOP wins the Senate. The RINOs will side with the Dems to block conservative policy. The leadership is a worthless bunch of gutless elitists who enjoy the status quo and wouldnt allow it to get to the floor anyway. Obama’s veto pen would never even need to be taken out of the drawer…..

As long as the GOP is run by and run for the benefit of progressive career politicians, winning “control” of Congress is irrelevant.

The GOP just kind of makes me nauseous.

alecj on January 6, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Without the majority we have next to no power. Get past the party purity (which, as conservatives, we don’t really believe is a thing anyway) and just win.

Then don’t pass anything with “comprehensive” or “affordable” or “wage” in the title. Repeal all the crap. Close agencies. Spend only what comes in. Strong military. Blah, blah, blah.

But none of that happens until we win.

jdpaz on January 6, 2014 at 3:28 PM

*psssst*

The GOP had all of the majorities, including Presidency.

They did *none* of your ‘after we win’ stuff.

Guess what they won’t do if they get those majorities again…

But yes, by all means, let’s band together and vote for the establishment guys who are trying to shiv us into oblivion.

Makes perfect sense.

Midas on January 6, 2014 at 3:41 PM

There is some misunderstanding about the tea party efforts during the WI recalls. The tea partiers that went to Wisconsin did so because they wanted to break the unions and it was obvious that Walker was doing that.

platypus on January 6, 2014 at 3:20 PM

And that has accomplished what exactly? The Dems will just siphon their money from some place else.

Also, since when is the goal of the TEA Party to bust unions? It’s supposed to be about reversing the massive overspending in Washington which leads to economic instability and higher taxes…not about dealing with social issues. Fiscal sanity in Washington is the only unifying cause possible for both Democrats and Republicans alike.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 6, 2014 at 3:43 PM

because a year from now things will be much different if Republicans hold the United States Senate.

LOL.

My last GOP vote was cast in 2012. Go find a replacement vote for mine among the illegals you guys are aiding and abetting.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 6, 2014 at 3:46 PM

His war with the left over collective bargaining reform in Wisconsin is already so legendary that there’s practically nothing he could do to ruin his conservative cred before the primaries.

Oh, and this is a wholly inaccurate read of facts on the ground, by the way. He’s already done much to undermine that cred, and with every comment/statement that comes out in support of ‘establishment’ GOP, amnesty, etc – he undermines it further.

Midas on January 6, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Why don’t leaders like Walker come out AGAINST groups that are attacking the Tea Party?

Could it be that Walker thinks he will be needing Carl Rove directed money in the future?

Freddy on January 6, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Without the majority we have next to no power.

jdpaz on January 6, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Holding the purse strings and the power of impeachment is not, “no power”.

The Weeping Boner and his GOP idiots have made it perfectly clear that they have no interest in defending the Constitution or doing anything, other than colluding with Barky and his junta. The GOP needs to finish its political suicide run, already and be gone.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 6, 2014 at 3:50 PM

And that has accomplished what exactly? The Dems will just siphon their money from some place else.

Also, since when is the goal of the TEA Party to bust unions? It’s supposed to be about reversing the massive overspending in Washington which leads to economic instability and higher taxes…not about dealing with social issues. Fiscal sanity in Washington is the only unifying cause possible for both Democrats and Republicans alike.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 6, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Uh, union-busting is not a social issue, but indeed, a fiscal one. Unions were a huge drain on the Wisconsin budget and Walker’s changes have helped immensely already.

Bitter Clinger on January 6, 2014 at 3:50 PM

My “disappointed list” is growing ever larger.
First Haley, then Rubio, now Walker….who’s next??

tencole on January 6, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Heh! Come on friend, fess up. This happens to you every 4 years, doesn’t it?

rhombus on January 6, 2014 at 3:50 PM

I’m not voting for 1 (R)epublican UNLESS they come out and say SECURE THE BORDER FIRST.!

mmcnamer1 on January 6, 2014 at 3:50 PM

There needs to be a new understanding amongst the GOP. The old establishment members are never going to be on board with reform. They have done everything to obstruct reform. Remove them and start over.

Karmashock on January 6, 2014 at 3:51 PM

*psssst*

The GOP had all of the majorities, including Presidency.

They did *none* of your ‘after we win’ stuff.

Guess what they won’t do if they get those majorities again…

But yes, by all means, let’s band together and vote for the establishment guys who are trying to shiv us into oblivion.

Makes perfect sense.

Midas on January 6, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Your way we’ll at least have party purity — with no hope of any power whatsoever. Awesome.

Why didn’t they do the “after we win” stuff? Because the voters did not ask for it. The voters hold the power in our republic. It doesn’t matter who’s in office if the voters are educated in conservative principles and western civilization. Wipe the spittle-flecks off your chin and go talk to your neighbors. Reagan did it for 20 years before he ran for president. No one’s done it since.

jdpaz on January 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Y’all will have to suit yourselves, but I’m still going to “hold my nose” and vote, in the general elections.

The only way to get rid of “progressive Republicans” is PRIMARIES.

listens2glenn on January 6, 2014 at 3:04 PM

IMO, voting for a ‘progressive Republican’ in the general simply tells the GOP you support ‘progressive Republicans’.

That’s not a message I’m going to be sending them in any way, shape or form.

Midas on January 6, 2014 at 3:54 PM

I’m not voting for 1 (R)epublican UNLESS they come out and say SECURE THE BORDER FIRST.!

mmcnamer1 on January 6, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Just a note: securing the border is totally meaningless without interior enforcement. We have tens of millions of aliens coming through this nation every year on all sorts of tourist and temporary visas. A secure border is a joke unless there is very vigorous interior enforcement and services are withheld from them. Putting illegals on the bar in California should show you how ridiculous mere border enforcement is.

Interior enforcement is everything. Border security is almost nothing without it.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 6, 2014 at 3:54 PM

The voters hold the power in our republic.

jdpaz on January 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Uh … no. That would be a Democracy. The United States was not built as a Democracy. The Constitution holds the power in our Constitutional Republic, no matter what the voters want. GOP Congresscritters are bound to uphold and defend the Constitution, not any voters.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 6, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Holding the purse strings and the power of impeachment is not, “no power”.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 6, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Quite true, and finding and EFFECTIVE way to use those powers is crucial. We can’t keep making the same stupid mistakes of the 90s and hope things come out differently this time. That’s a loser’s recipe.

rhombus on January 6, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Uh, union-busting is not a social issue, but indeed, a fiscal one. Unions were a huge drain on the Wisconsin budget and Walker’s changes have helped immensely already.

Bitter Clinger on January 6, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Uh, that’s Wisconsin’s problem. Not my problem.

Our problem is the trillions being stolen from us via Washington D.C., not the politics of Madison. There are local groups that can form and deal with those issues head on and that would be fine. I don’t like to be drawn into local squabbles nor social issues whether or not I agree with them.

If the TEA Party can’t be stay on focus and welcome all political persuasions then we should just change the name to the Conservative Party and not be like the Liberal Dems with their euphemistically-named PACS.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 6, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Wipe the spittle-flecks off your chin and go talk to your neighbors. Reagan did it for 20 years before he ran for president. No one’s done it since.

jdpaz on January 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Yeah, because you know me and what I’ve been doing or not doing regarding my neighbors.

GFY

Midas on January 6, 2014 at 3:59 PM

I’m not voting for 1 (R)epublican UNLESS they come out and say SECURE THE BORDER FIRST.!

mmcnamer1 on January 6, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Just a note: securing the border is totally meaningless without interior enforcement. We have tens of millions of aliens coming through this nation every year on all sorts of tourist and temporary visas. A secure border is a joke unless there is very vigorous interior enforcement and services are withheld from them. Putting illegals on the bar in California should show you how ridiculous mere border enforcement is.

Interior enforcement is everything. Border security is almost nothing without it.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 6, 2014 at 3:54 PM

This ^^
Cutting off freebies will send them packing. I just saw a commercial for Mexico’s airplane maintenance and manufacturing industry soaring to new levels. Mexico.
They might need to build a wall to keep us in cone 2015.

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on January 6, 2014 at 4:00 PM

I’ll gladly support a RINO, if they fight the Unions like Scott Walker and govern fiscally conservatively.

But the RINOs in the Senate & House are entrenched in their need to please the media & cross the aisle McCainism.

portlandon on January 6, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Uh, that’s Wisconsin’s problem. Not my problem.

Our problem is the trillions being stolen from us via Washington D.C., not the politics of Madison. There are local groups that can form and deal with those issues head on and that would be fine. I don’t like to be drawn into local squabbles nor social issues whether or not I agree with them.

If the TEA Party can’t be stay on focus and welcome all political persuasions then we should just change the name to the Conservative Party and not be like the Liberal Dems with their euphemistically-named PACS.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 6, 2014 at 3:58 PM

So the TEA Party can’t multi-task and deal with fiscal issues at both the Federal AND state level?

Got it.

Bitter Clinger on January 6, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Hilariously, Allahpundit accidentally pointed out the fundamental flaw in the RINO establishment’s logic.

Having 51 Republicans for the last two years of O’s term would solve that problem going forward — if they hang together and vote unanimously against a bad Obama appointment. You trust Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, John McCain, and Mark Kirk to do that, don’t you?

Exactly. It won’t. Getting the majority in the Senate is meaningless because we know there are four “Republicans” that aren’t.

Hence, the Tea Party’s time is better devoted to knocking off and knocking out the “Republicans” in the primary process. If Cornyn is sent back to office, for example, he has always and will vote just like the Obama Party member, so what’s the difference?

northdallasthirty on January 6, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Just consider what he is saying and what has happened when the TP got its way in the last two cycles. You can make the case that TP got Cruz elected, but the GOP winner was a gimme and Cruz was backed by the Bush camp from the get go. Even with Obamacare the vulnerable Dems are still formidable as opponents.

Kermit on January 6, 2014 at 4:09 PM

*psssst*

The GOP had all of the majorities, including Presidency.

They did *none* of your ‘after we win’ stuff.

Guess what they won’t do if they get those majorities again…

But yes, by all means, let’s band together and vote for the establishment guys who are trying to shiv us into oblivion.

Makes perfect sense.

Midas on January 6, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Well said. It’s a very complex system that’s developed in D.C. so to be as nice as possible, I’d say that even the most Conservative politicians know they can’t reverse much if any of the Great Society/New Deal handouts, graft, “foreign aid” and a million other scams. At best they can provide an opposing voice, but ultimately they just want to get re-elected. And…who knows the level of blackmail, thuggery and racketeering they have to deal with behind the scenes.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 6, 2014 at 4:10 PM

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