Romney: Apology accepted, but …

posted at 11:01 am on January 5, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

As expected, Mitt Romney took the high road on Fox News Sunday regarding MSNBC’s attack on his family and Melissa Harris-Perry’s apology – but not without a bit of scolding from both Romney and Fox News anchor Chris Wallace.  Romney told Wallace that “I’ve made plenty of mistakes myself,” and that “I’m going to move on from that.” In the future, Romney advised, MSNBC should keep families out of the line of fire:

Romney accepted Harris-Perry’s apology, saying, “The folks at MSNBC made a big mistake and they’ve apologized for it, and that’s all you can ask for. I’m going to move on from that; I’m sure they want to move on from it. Look, I’ve made plenty of mistakes myself and they’ve apologized for this and I think we can go on from there.”

The former presidential candidate added that children should be off limits from political attacks. “If you get in the political game, you can expect incoming. But children – that’s beyond the line. And I think they understand that and feel that as well. I think it’s a heartfelt apology and I think for that reason, we hold no ill will whatsoever.”

Wallace pressed Romney on it a bit further, noting that Harris-Perry joined in the laughter in the original segment and speculated on what it would be like if Romney found himself related to Kanye West. Romney didn’t take the bait, responding that he considered Harris-Perry’s apology to be “heartfelt,” and that he “didn’t really have any comment on those [remarks].”

Romney had a few other comments, however, on ObamaCare, the HHS contraception mandate, and the parallels to RomneyCare in Massachusetts, as well as the Sochi Olympics. The whole interview is below; the MSNBC segment comes at the end.



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Kudos to Mitt Romney for taking the high road..Shows a lot of class..:)

Dire Straits on January 5, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Screw class. I’m done with class. We’ve been worshiping class for a long time and where has it gotten us? A one-way ticket to Loserville. I want a dirty, vicious SOB who cares more about America than anything else on this earth — family, friends or faith — and will cut out hearts to save it.

rrpjr on January 5, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Is Romney doing black-face there…

I kid, I kid

nonintelligent on January 5, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Yet more proof of why O’bama won 80% of the high school dropout vote in 2012 while losing the vote of college graduates.

F+

Del Dolemonte on January 5, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Someone voted for Johnny B. Goode? That’s like claiming that the Houston Texans should be in the Super Bowl. They must have an IQ of drool or be smoking something pretty darned potent.

Kermit on January 5, 2014 at 4:43 PM

I’m baaaack…Alinsky taught you well.

SAUL+

Oh, and this…
Del Dolemonte on January 5, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Alinsky is before my time, and no, I haven’t taken Glenn Beck’s advice to read his book.

Since when is getting less than 1/10 of 1% of the national vote having a “practical chance” to win the election? Only in your Monty Pythonesque world, my simpleton friend.

Del Dolemonte on January 5, 2014 at 4:38 PM

FYI, I’m not the one who started talking about practical chances. That’s fadetogray’s term, and I’ve been bugging the fellow to give me a definition that isn’t contingent on size, since earlier I had admitted that Romney had a greater chance than Goode, but was told that it was a matter not of difference in probability, but difference in category. Of course, categories need definitions. We’re still working on getting that one.

Stoic Patriot on January 5, 2014 at 4:43 PM

rrpjr on January 5, 2014 at 4:40 PM

..:)

Dire Straits on January 5, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Stoic Idiot on January 5, 2014 at 4:43 PM

But you did call Romney “sleazy”, while admitting that you voted for a guy whose wiki page has plenty of sleaze in it.

He became famous for his support of the tobacco industry, expressing his fear that “his elderly mother would be denied ‘the one last pleasure’ of smoking a cigarette on her hospital deathbed.”

In 2005, Goode faced questions when a major corporate campaign donor, defense contractor MZM, Inc., was implicated in a bribery scandal that resulted in the criminal conviction and resignation of California congressman Randy “Duke” Cunningham. Although Goode insisted that his relations with MZM were motivated solely by his interest in bringing high-paying skilled jobs to his district, in December of that year he donated the $88,000 received in MZM contributions to regional charities.

(“Innocent” people don’t prove their innocence in such a manner)

The Sunlight Foundation pointed out that among the 435 members of the U.S. House of Representatives, Goode has the 13th-highest amount of investment in oil stocks, meaning that Goode stands to gain financially through high gas prices and pro-oil industry legislation.

In June 2009, it was revealed that political scientist Larry Sabato, of the Center for Politics, had been the recipient of over $7 million in earmark money from Goode, whom Sabato predicted would win re-election in 2008, despite declining poll numbers; Goode ultimately lost the race by a small margin. Some observers have suggested that Sabato should have revealed his financial connection to Goode or recused himself from making predictions about the race.

“Squeaky Clean 101″

Del Dolemonte on January 5, 2014 at 5:04 PM

I always had the highest regard for Romney, and I supported him strongly. Here he only confirms what I always believed about him, which is his deep sense of decency, and knowing what really helps other people at the deepest level. I don’t understand why he didn’t win in 2012. It wasn’t from my lack of wanting it to happen!

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Murphy9 on January 5, 2014 at 5:11 PM

But you did call Romney “sleazy”, while admitting that you voted for a guy whose wiki page has plenty of sleaze in it.

And a campaign donor’s activities reveal anything about Goode… how? And donating funds to charity from someone who is considered to be a corrupt source is hardly unusual. Innocent people generally do try to prove their innocence in such a manner because they don’t want to retain even an appearance of an association or that they ultimately profited from the relationship once they find out they’ve been dealing with a bad actor.

“Squeaky Clean 101″

Del Dolemonte on January 5, 2014 at 5:04 PM

That’s some mighty thin gruel there. First, Sabato’s activities fall on Sabato, not Goode, so that’s not even relevant. Second, investment in oil stocks and supporting the oil industry isn’t indicative of corruption. What it reveals is the possibility, not the reality, of receiving kickbacks.

Stoic Patriot on January 5, 2014 at 5:12 PM

It is a sure thing that the Romney’s son’s lawyers were already in touch with msnbc about a tiny child’s privacy.

Fleuries on January 5, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Hillary has what it takes to be the next President of the United States.
General Wes Clark

I kind of agree. Compulsive liar, zero management experience, unrivaled record of corruption. She’s a perfect fit.

rrpjr on January 5, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Does anyone realize how much no one considered Virgil viable that his campaign was almost entirely funded with contributions from his congressional campaign account?

I’ll bet Roseanne Barr had more financial support.

Kermit on January 5, 2014 at 5:30 PM

I kind of agree. Compulsive liar, zero management experience, unrivaled record of corruption. She’s a perfect fit.

rrpjr on January 5, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Sad, but true. Can we puleeze NOT have any repeat candidates? No Clintons, no Kerry, no Dean, no Perry, no Santorum, etc., etc., etc. Wipe the slate clean and find new people, that’s what this country needs. Preferably someone who has actually governed, run a business, AND has military experience and a squeaky clean background showing moral character and honesty and who doesn’t have lobbyists and unions in their pocket. I don’t know that we can find anyone like that but that’s what we should be looking for.

scalleywag on January 5, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Yet more proof of why O’bama won 80% of the high school dropout vote in 2012 while losing the vote of college graduates.

F+

Del Dolemonte on January 5, 2014 at 4:41 PM

it was a joke dood, take it easy

nonpartisan on January 5, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Stoic Patriot on January 5, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Whackjob . Get a life you loser .

it was a joke dood, take it easy

nonpartisan on January 5, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Still no sign of intelligence.

CWchangedhisNicagain on January 5, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Stoic Patriot,

Just for some perspective as to where you are coming from on this, what state did you vote in?

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Denial.

VegasRick on January 5, 2014 at 1:39 PM

*standing ovation*

Sometimes in adulthood you do things you really don’t want to do because it’s better to fight another day and the alternatives are so very worse. This election was one of them.

By the time 2016 comes along, there will be little to attempt to salvage and it’s more of who to rebuild.

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 6:13 PM

*standing ovation*

Sometimes in adulthood you do things you really don’t want to do because it’s better to fight another day and the alternatives are so very worse. This election was one of them.

By the time 2016 comes along, there will be little to attempt to salvage and it’s more of who to rebuild.

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 6:13 PM

In 2016, you’ll have another chance to get a conservative nominee, and not being the incumbent, the GOP candidate will be neither the beneficiary nor the scapegoat for what is going right or wrong. We will see how the next few years turn out, but control of SCOTUS is likely going to be a flashpoint. With control of that means the potential resurrection of Obamacare challenges, getting SB-1070-like bills through without being overturned, stopping gay marriage in its tracks, reversing the Kelo decision, and overturning Roe.

One thing I will predict is that the GOP will pick up Senate seats this year, but lose some in 2016, irrespective of how they perform in the 2016 POTUS general election. They’ll probably have to wait until 2018 to successfully make moves for the court, provided they don’t blow 2016.

Stoic Patriot on January 5, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Whackjob . Get a life you loser .

CWchangedhisNicagain on January 5, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Says a guy without a point to make or evidence to introduce.

Stoic Patriot on January 5, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Kudos to Mitt Romney for taking the high road..Shows a lot of class..:)

Dire Straits on January 5, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Screw class. I’m done with class. We’ve been worshiping class for a long time and where has it gotten us? A one-way ticket to Loserville. I want a dirty, vicious SOB who cares more about America than anything else on this earth — family, friends or faith — and will cut out hearts to save it.

rrpjr on January 5, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Andrew Jackson is the first person that comes to mind with that definition. Was Jackson perfect? Hell no. But he was a strong leader and an SOB who loved this country in every way.

I really don’t care either way about Mitt or what he says. Yes, it was classy, given the subject manner and who Mitt is. But he is the face of yesterday in politics. He is an archetype for the complacent politician who doesn’t want to offend anyone but unintentionally winds up offending all.

Myron Falwell on January 5, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Screw class. I’m done with class. We’ve been worshiping class for a long time and where has it gotten us? A one-way ticket to Loserville. I want a dirty, vicious SOB who cares more about America than anything else on this earth — family, friends or faith — and will cut out hearts to save it.

rrpjr on January 5, 2014 at 4:40 PM

A man who wishes to profess goodness at all times will come to ruin among so many who are not good. — Niccolo Machiavelli

VorDaj on January 5, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Meanwhile, let’s deal with this.

I disagree. As long as conservative radio talk show hosts are allowed to throw daily insults at the president’s children, “kids” are not off-limits.

loveofcountry on January 5, 2014 at 12:51 PM

LOL.

Notice here that loveofcountry insists that Palin, Romney, and their respective families are fair game for attack, but screams and cries that the Obama children cannot ever be attacked because it would destroy them.

Why? Are black-skinned children less capable? Is it the same reason that your poor child Obama cannot possibly deal with the same types of threats you, your Obama, and your Obama Party heaped on a white President?

You really are quite the white liberal racist, loveofcountry. If you truly believed black people were equal, you wouldn’t worry about Obama’s safety, given that you insisted assassination threats by you and your fellow Obama Party members shouldn’t matter to a white President.

northdallasthirty on January 5, 2014 at 6:59 PM

Idiot, not voting is a vote for neither, but even when you don’t vote, the side that would have had your vote otherwise “loses” a vote.

SauerKraut537 on January 5, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Neither side lost my vote, since neither would ever have it given the candidates they were running. A vote must be earned by a party every time. There are no freebies.

Stoic Patriot on January 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Yet you voted for a candidate that you knew had absolutely no chance of winning.

INCOMPLETE.

Del Dolemonte on January 5, 2014 at 1:15 PM

LOL. So did I. I held my nose and voted for Romney. And the “staying at home an d voting third party is just a vote for the commies” is b.s. No party owns anyone’s vote. And when a party is determined to crap on its own base, that party loses. It happened to the Dems in 2004, and it happened to the GOP in 2012.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Willard-worst RINO canddidate besides McLame, Dole, Dewey and Willkie.

vilebody on January 5, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Stoic Patriot,

Just for some perspective as to where you are coming from on this, what state did you vote in?

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Denial.

VegasRick on January 5, 2014 at 1:39 PM

*standing ovation*

Sometimes in adulthood you do things you really don’t want to do because it’s better to fight another day and the alternatives are so very worse. This election was one of them.

By the time 2016 comes along, there will be little to attempt to salvage and it’s more of who to rebuild.

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Those in the “state of denial” were those telling us that Mitt was really going to do it. In 2016, the GOPe knows that there will be just enough people in the same old lemming chorus going on about “not voting for Christie or whoever is voting for the Dems” that they can throw any moderate loser they want out there. And we’ll have the same old thing, like clockwork. Many of those going on about “this is the LAST time I’m voting for the lesser of two evils” will be good GOPer team players by 2016. Again.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Not that remote when you’re talking a year before the election. When you’re talking about a guy that polls under 1% right before the election for President, even winning the lottery 4 times in a row is a better shot.

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 3:11 PM

0.09% – But you never know!

VegasRick on January 5, 2014 at 3:15 PM

And sure-fire Mitt Romney is no more president now than Virgil Goode is. Horseshoes and hand grenades come to mind.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 7:14 PM

In 2016, you’ll have another chance to get a conservative nominee, and not being the incumbent, the GOP candidate will be neither the beneficiary nor the scapegoat for what is going right or wrong. We will see how the next few years turn out, but control of SCOTUS is likely going to be a flashpoint. With control of that means the potential resurrection of Obamacare challenges, getting SB-1070-like bills through without being overturned, stopping gay marriage in its tracks, reversing the Kelo decision, and overturning Roe.

One thing I will predict is that the GOP will pick up Senate seats this year, but lose some in 2016, irrespective of how they perform in the 2016 POTUS general election. They’ll probably have to wait until 2018 to successfully make moves for the court, provided they don’t blow 2016.

Stoic Patriot on January 5, 2014 at 6:22 PM

As long as the GOPe continues to have open state primaries and insists that Iowa and New Hampshire have the first word on who the nominee should be, does it really matter? The Socialist wing of the GOPe – previously known as the establishment wing – will try to cram Kristie Kreme down conservative’s throats, and aim to kill the candidacies of any competitor.

And regardless if even the GOPe nominee is, and even if they win, the GOPe’s track record on SCOTUS nominees has been simply atrocious. Even SCOTUS nominees with conservative credentials wind up converting into hardcore Socialists, the lone exceptions having been Scalia, Thomas and Alito… and maybe even Rehnquist. Everyone else has been a flaming piece of poo.

Myron Falwell on January 5, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Willard-worst RINO canddidate besides McLame, Dole, Dewey and Willkie.

vilebody on January 5, 2014 at 7:06 PM

I disagree… slightly. McCant was a special brand of loser, and he’s still very much in the public eye. The rest mercifully faded away into irrelevancy once they lost, this includes Mitt.

Myron Falwell on January 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM

The Socialist wing of the GOPe – previously known as the establishment wing – will try to cram Kristie Kreme down conservative’s throats, and aim to kill the candidacies of any competitor.

Myron Falwell on January 5, 2014 at 7:15 PM

And like clockwork, we’ll be told how if we sit home or vote third party we’re helping the commies.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM

And like clockwork, we’ll be told how if we sit home or vote third party we’re helping the commies.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Undoubtedly. It’s a lather, rinse, and repeat routine for the GOP, sadly.

As long as the GOPe continues to have open state primaries and insists that Iowa and New Hampshire have the first word on who the nominee should be, does it really matter? The Socialist wing of the GOPe – previously known as the establishment wing – will try to cram Kristie Kreme down conservative’s throats, and aim to kill the candidacies of any competitor.

And regardless if even the GOPe nominee is, and even if they win, the GOPe’s track record on SCOTUS nominees has been simply atrocious. Even SCOTUS nominees with conservative credentials wind up converting into hardcore Socialists, the lone exceptions having been Scalia, Thomas and Alito… and maybe even Rehnquist. Everyone else has been a flaming piece of poo.

Myron Falwell on January 5, 2014 at 7:15 PM

I’m actually more hopeful that we can avoid Christie than I was about avoiding Romney. I could easily see Christie losing both Iowa and South Carolina, and possibly even New Hampshire if there’s enough “moderate” candidates splitting the early vote. A whole heck of a lot is going to be contingent on what the field looks like.

Stoic Patriot on January 5, 2014 at 7:22 PM

The Socialist wing of the GOPe – previously known as the establishment wing – will try to cram Kristie Kreme down conservative’s throats, and aim to kill the candidacies of any competitor.

Myron Falwell on January 5, 2014 at 7:15 PM

And like clockwork, we’ll be told how if we sit home or vote third party we’re helping the commies.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM

It’s far too predictable, just like a battered wife being abused by a manipulating husband.

An ideological schism in the GOPe is inevitable, and quite frankly, would be a welcome development.

Myron Falwell on January 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Those in the “state of denial” were those telling us that Mitt was really going to do it. In 2016, the GOPe knows that there will be just enough people in the same old lemming chorus going on about “not voting for Christie or whoever is voting for the Dems” that they can throw any moderate loser they want out there. And we’ll have the same old thing, like clockwork. Many of those going on about “this is the LAST time I’m voting for the lesser of two evils” will be good GOPer team players by 2016. Again.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM

I’m sorry that you didn’t read my post before replying. Here… I’ll repost it:

Sometimes in adulthood you do things you really don’t want to do because it’s better to fight another day and the alternatives are so very worse. This election was one of them.

By the time 2016 comes along, there will be little to attempt to salvage and it’s more of who to rebuild.

And I’ll help you out here by explaining it:

It wasn’t so much being enamored with the choices. If you recall the Primary Wars, Romney was the least wanted nominee. However, because of the extreme noxiousness of Obama, even Romney looked wonderful in comparison. Even one or two saves was better than the none we are getting now.

My second paragraph should be clear in that they can trot out whatever RINO and establishment hack they want. There will be nothing, imho, to save and the only thing is to wait for the rebuilding.

I’m glad, however, that you were able to use my post to wander down the garden and post your usual screed. I’m also sorry that you found no value in trying to oust Obama from office.

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Willard-worst RINO canddidate besides McLame, Dole, Dewey and Willkie.

vilebody on January 5, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Truly.

rrpjr on January 5, 2014 at 8:23 PM

And like clockwork, we’ll be told how if we sit home or vote third party we’re helping the commies.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM

I’m sure somebody will say that. It’s a big internet. So what? And who here cares what Karl Rove says, anyway?

If the GOP nominates Christie and the Democrats put up Hillary, I won’t be one telling you that, and I was one of the most urgently warning we had to stop the Democrats in 2012 come Hell or high water or Obamacare (or worse, probably worse) would become a fact of American existence for all time forward.

The dam is broken. The reservoir is rapidly emptying. The damage is done. There is no going back. America is now Europe, but really screwed up with fat people and man-hating women and high violence and jackal lawyers running amok everywhere. We are so completely and utterly xxxxxx I can’t even laugh about it (and I laugh about everything).

Vote for Snoopy, for all I care. GAME OVER.

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 8:24 PM

. Many of those going on about “this is the LAST time I’m voting for the lesser of two evils” will be good GOPer team players by 2016. Again.
ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM

You copy and paste the same anti-Romney garbage over and over. You offer nothing. You bashed Romney nonstop, even after he got the nomination, and you never once said who, among the declared candidates, you preferred over Romney. Newt? Perry? Santorum??? Sorry, but Mitt WAS the best of the bunch.

And you can whine all you want about the treatment Palin received, but she didn’t run, and the truth is that she probably never will.

So, yes, in campaigning against Romney in the fall, you were supporting Obama and you deserved all the scorn you received. You can boo-hoo all you want now, but no one cares.

Next time we will potentially have better, more conservative candidates to support.

bluegill on January 5, 2014 at 8:28 PM

If the GOP nominates Christie and the Democrats put up Hillary, I won’t be one telling you that, and I was one of the most urgently warning we had to stop the Democrats in 2012 come Hell or high water or Obamacare (or worse, probably worse) would become a fact of American existence for all time forward.

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 8:24 PM

It’s the primary voters doing the nominating.

Some people are already throwing in the towel like a bunch of babies. If you want a conservative, then get out there and campaign for him and support him and convince people to vote for him.

Some of you whine about the “GOPe” more than you support your preferred candidates.

bluegill on January 5, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Some of you whine about the “GOPe” more than you support your preferred candidates.

bluegill on January 5, 2014 at 8:34 PM

You can can it blue. I was a vehement Romney supporter. Even though we have lost the most important battle, I will fight on for conservative candidates (I have always fought best in the shade, anyway), but if the GOP is just going to run on promises it is going to manage Leviathan better than the Democrats will (Christie’s basic outlook) instead of cutting it back, then I am joining the ‘rabble’ on the ‘fringes.’

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 8:44 PM

It’s the primary voters doing the nominating.

Some people are already throwing in the towel like a bunch of babies. If you want a conservative, then get out there and campaign for him and support him and convince people to vote for him.

Some of you whine about the “GOPe” more than you support your preferred candidates.

bluegill on January 5, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Yes to a certain extent. It’s more complicated than that, but you know this and your post was shorthand.

I know you don’t like Palin, but she was an excellent candidate and we would have been extremely fortunate to have that. She is socially conservative, small government and anticorruption. Unfortunately, we let the past 40+ years dictate our reaction and left her to the wolves. Never mind whatever bad qualities you think she has, her core is conservative. We should have fought for her and for the others to come.

By abandoning her and the fight, we have emboldened the liberals further to the point where they control the media and control us through the PC Police.

So now, when a solid candidate considers running they have to not only try to win votes, but they have to get past the gatekeeper media and our own party.

It’s no one else’s fault but our own we’re in this state.

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 8:46 PM

I was a vehement Romney supporter. Even though we have lost the most important battle, I will fight on for conservative candidates (I have always fought best in the shade, anyway), but if the GOP is just going to run on promises it is going to manage Leviathan better than the Democrats will (Christie’s basic outlook) instead of cutting it back, then I am joining the ‘rabble’ on the ‘fringes.’

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 8:44 PM

That’s my point. People like Stoic Patriot who’s taking all kinds of grief decided to make that leap earlier than you say you’re going to do. Big deal.

I’m glad, however, that you were able to use my post to wander down the garden and post your usual screed. I’m also sorry that you found no value in trying to oust Obama from office.

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 8:13 PM

You “applauded” someone proclaiming their nobility in choosing the lesser of two evils — a commenter who was in the process of attacking another commenter who had said he’d already had enough of that routine. THAT’S the “usual screed”. Maybe Stoic Patriot and those like him had had enough with McCain. Or Dole. The point is, many of those attacking him are probably some of the same ones who also b1tch and moan about “enough is enough” without really having the guts to follow through. And it will most likely be the same crap in 2016. “Look, I know Christie’s not perfect. Nobody is!!!! So are you going to help Hillary????” As sure as the sun rises in the East.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 9:24 PM

The dam is broken. The reservoir is rapidly emptying. The damage is done. There is no going back. America is now Europe, but really screwed up with fat people and man-hating women and high violence and jackal lawyers running amok everywhere. We are so completely and utterly xxxxxx I can’t even laugh about it (and I laugh about everything).

Vote for Snoopy, for all I care. GAME OVER.

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 8:24 PM

And seriously: what do you think Romney would have really done to stop it? Do you really think O-care would be just a memory now?

The only thing that would’ve stopped it is a root-and-branch-reform type that the GOPe is not going to allow to get anywhere near the nomination, I don’t care if it’s Palin or Paul or Cruz or whoever. And Romney was most definitely NOT that type of person, as evidenced by his governing record. He would’ve been little more than a place-holder.

An ideological schism in the GOPe is inevitable, and quite frankly, would be a welcome development.

Myron Falwell on January 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Hear, hear.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 9:31 PM

That’s my point. People like Stoic Patriot who’s taking all kinds of grief decided to make that leap earlier than you say you’re going to do. Big deal.

…………..

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 9:24 PM

You missed my point, and, like Stoic, you are seeing different things as just the same. 2012 was critical. I was saying 2012 was critical. I am still saying 2012 was critical. That is why 2016 is not critical. The patient died.

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 9:38 PM

And seriously: what do you think Romney would have really done to stop it? Do you really think O-care would be just a memory now?

Romney told us what he was going to do. Many times. Over and over. On his first day in office he was going to give us all Obamacare waivers.

Then we would 4 or 8 years to elect a Congress that would send him a bill overturning it before it could ever actually take effect.

So, no, Obamacare would not just be a memory now. We would still have to elect a Congress to overturn it. Not with this Senate.

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 9:41 PM

You missed my point, and, like Stoic, you are seeing different things as just the same. 2012 was critical. I was saying 2012 was critical. I am still saying 2012 was critical. That is why 2016 is not critical. The patient died.

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 9:38 PM

2008 was critical. 1996 was critical. 1992 was critical. If the patient is dead, it happened long before 2012; and if 2012 was that critical, then the GOP presented a sorry way of illustrating it.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Romney told us what he was going to do. Many times. Over and over. On his first day in office he was going to give us all Obamacare waivers.

And you believed that? Right.

So, no, Obamacare would not just be a memory now. We would still have to elect a Congress to overturn it. Not with this Senate.

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 9:41 PM

LOL. The GOP representation in this Congress as a group is apparently scared sh1tless if someone even whispers the word “defund”. Give me a break.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 9:45 PM

And you believed that? Right.

Of course I believed it, and that article was from 2011, before Romney’s people figured out the kind of massive arbitrary power Obamacare granted the Executive Branch, something we are all now finding out. Waivers? Duck soup.

Romney stuck to that promise all the way up to election day, 11 months after that article.

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 9:53 PM

You “applauded” someone proclaiming their nobility in choosing the lesser of two evils — a commenter who was in the process of attacking another commenter who had said he’d already had enough of that routine. THAT’S the “usual screed”. Maybe Stoic Patriot and those like him had had enough with McCain. Or Dole. The point is, many of those attacking him are probably some of the same ones who also b1tch and moan about “enough is enough” without really having the guts to follow through. And it will most likely be the same crap in 2016. “Look, I know Christie’s not perfect. Nobody is!!!! So are you going to help Hillary????” As sure as the sun rises in the East.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 9:24 PM

Anyone who didn’t see what poison Obama is and didn’t do whatever they could to defeat him is a moron.

And as I said in my FIRST post that you are still confused about (or rather that you can’t see anything but your fist shaking at the sky), I don’t think it matters in three years. Ronald McDonald can be in the WH for all it will matter.

It’s really a shame that you are so bitter about your vote for Romney. I’d guess that there’s more going on here than a vote and more about your life in general. Try to find some peace before you keel over from a heart attack or just plain bitterness. It isn’t good for a body.

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 9:53 PM

And seriously: what do you think Romney would have really done to stop it? Do you really think O-care would be just a memory now?

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 9:31 PM

He stated quite clearly that he would have repealed it. Now whether he lied, we don’t know and never will. However, there were better odds that he would have given the 0% that we are getting now.

Plus, we could have made his life quite miserable had he reneged. And, again, we would have been at that magic number we are at now: 0%.

Adults know this. Adults pick their battles to win the war.

Unfortunately, there aren’t many adults left.

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 9:56 PM

And as I said in my FIRST post that you are still confused about (or rather that you can’t see anything but your fist shaking at the sky), I don’t think it matters in three years. Ronald McDonald can be in the WH for all it will matter.

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 9:53 PM

I’m not shaking a fist. I’m saying what I said calmly a long time ago: Romney was never going to win; and if by some miracle Romney had won, in the long run it wouldn’t have made much difference. Soon all this “we’re doomed since Romney lost” is bogus. Romney was all about the illusion of making the Welfare State “better” and “more efficient”. That’s all you can hope for from GOP moderates.

Romney stuck to that promise all the way up to election day, 11 months after that article.

fadetogray on January 5, 2014 at 9:53 PM

LOL. OK.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 9:57 PM

*”so”, not “soon”

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 9:58 PM

Plus, we could have made his life quite miserable had he reneged.

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 9:56 PM

LOL, now THAT is delusional. You mean “miserable” as in Boehner/Cantor/McConnell/Ryan miserable? Now after that Romney victory in November 2012 which signaled the death once and for all of conservatives and showed the whole world that moderates were the only real winners, given that Romney triumphed in the face of TP and conservative opposition, thus revealing those to be utterly weak, what leverage were you going to use to “make his life miserable”? Hmmmmm?

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 10:02 PM

I’m not shaking a fist. I’m saying what I said calmly a long time ago: Romney was never going to win; and if by some miracle Romney had won, in the long run it wouldn’t have made much difference. Soon all this “we’re doomed since Romney lost” is bogus. Romney was all about the illusion of making the Welfare State “better” and “more efficient”. That’s all you can hope for from GOP moderates.

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 9:57 PM

There were two choices – vote for Romney and take our chances or give up. Absolutely nothing wrong with *not* giving up. Not sure why this is such a sore spot with you.

We’ll never know how useful Romney would have been. What I was advocating for was more time. I was putting forth the assumption (rightly or wrongly) that in the time Romney would be in office we could be working towards putting solid conservatives in office. I even said it would take at least two cycles to clean out the rot and that people would have to be patient. We don’t get to where we are overnight and we don’t clean it up overnight.

Whatever was going to happen would have been coming from *us*. It was up to us to make the changes.

You quite obviously disagree with that assessment and that’s fine, but we’ll never know how it would have went. I felt it was worth attempting. You figured it was pointless in the long run.

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM

LOL, now THAT is delusional. You mean “miserable” as in Boehner/Cantor/McConnell/Ryan miserable? Now after that Romney victory in November 2012 which signaled the death once and for all of conservatives and showed the whole world that moderates were the only real winners, given that Romney triumphed in the face of TP and conservative opposition, thus revealing those to be utterly weak, what leverage were you going to use to “make his life miserable”? Hmmmmm?

ddrintn on January 5, 2014 at 10:02 PM

You think they are having a good time? You think they aren’t going to be primaried or harassed when they go to their districts. They have to stay in DC because they are loathed. You think Romney would have liked that or being reminded early and often that he lied and broke campaign promises? Look at Rubio for what breaking promises gets you. He’s having a marvelous time, isn’t he?

But never mind that. You are just as bad as the dishonest media by ignoring everything that doesn’t quite fit into your agenda. Noted that you have absolutely nothing to say about anything else anyone has to say – you just repeat your useless bitterness about Romney.

You are the problem. You have nothing of value to offer except nattering. You have no ideas, no thoughts, no assistance to offer except to nip at the heels of people trying to do something to fix this mess. I’m out.

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 10:12 PM

it was a joke dood, take it easy

noforeskin on January 5, 2014 at 5:55 PM

…had your pants off again?…did ya?

KOOLAID2 on January 5, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Reading through all the comments and it seems that the right learned nothing at all from the division and name calling within the Party in 2012.

Until Republicans can acknowledge that there is no cookie cutter conservative… we cede the country to the left, and continue down the dismal Socialist path that the far right decided was better than Romney.

The problems in the country will only be fixed when the right stops being “right” and starts living in the real world.

Being right is not working.

petunia on January 5, 2014 at 11:14 PM

a) Romney is/was not the conservative President this country needed and still needs.

b) He would still have been light years better than the disaster we currently have.

c) With the current climate in the media and hollywood…ie: the mouthpieces that scrub and deliver the shiny talking points that Americans seem to crave, we will never get a decent conservative elected.

d) What decent conservative would want to subject their family to the kind of hate and dissection that will occur by the left and their cronies?

e) We’re screwed…

rightConcept on January 5, 2014 at 11:33 PM

I want a dirty, vicious SOB who cares more about America than anything else on this earth — family, friends or faith — and will cut out hearts to save it.

rrpjr on January 5, 2014 at 4:40 PM

I have reached this point in the negotiations as well.

jakev on January 5, 2014 at 11:56 PM

As for the Palin thing, if her not speaking at the convention led to people refusing to at least vote against Obama, then they got what they deserve in another four years of this garbage.

changer1701 on January 5, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Incredible. “They” got what they deserve. “They” were the Republican base. Or just Republicans. To think that Romney and his fans thought that the base could go take a flying leap, so they got 6 million “missing white voters.” Yeah, Romney thought that conservatives would bite the bullet and show up for a smirky non-partisan double-talking “Republican” that ran from the key issues of gay marriage and immigration. Well, we nominated essentially a non-Republican, a self-professed previous “independent.” Romney was not us, he was “they.” And his supposed decency was part of his problem. It was a leftist style decency which drove him to distance himself from our issues of gay marriage, immigration, (+ abortion), and to fail like McCain to take the hard fight to leftist Obama. But his “decency” always seemed kind of be propped up, skin deep. That’s what the inane “47%” comment showed, which was actually a ridiculous comment that revealed a “shrinking pie” Democratic mindset. People realized that about the equivocating issue skirting Romney: that all he had was a syrupy decency, but even that decency seemed somehow contrived. And of course I think your analysis of gay marriage is wrong.

And about this Melissa Perry thing. Yes, I agree with some others here who say that this is mission accomplished for the Dems. To get us concentrating on and defending, of all people, Romney. To get us re-embracing Romney, and then the thing that slaughtered us in 2012 is back in us. Expunge.

anotherJoe on January 5, 2014 at 12:38 PM

AnotherJoe,
You are so wrong about Romney’s record as I have posted on here over the years I’m not going to repeat everything. A couple of things however, Romney was THE first governor to oppose gay marriage and fought it before the Congress of the US. He was AGAINST illegal immigration and one of the first to fight against it. His 47% comment was CORRECT in that the Democrat party already has a built in voting bloc of about 47% as do the Repubs and generally speaking elections are about swaying the other 6-8%. Also, as he stated, how many people are NOT paying an income tax today. Again he is spot on. So all you Romney haters, he would have been a great president and would have shown a REVERENCE for the office that it deserves unlike the current selfie president. But he did lose and we are all dealing with that…

g2825m on January 6, 2014 at 12:34 AM

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 9:56 PM

+ 100..Excellent post!!..:)

Dire Straits on January 6, 2014 at 12:51 AM

I have always thought the Romney’s were a class act. Nothing has changed that impression. He would have made a fine president in our country’s time of great need. The economy would already be growing if President Romney were at the helm. Instead we have…well you know.

JAM on January 5, 2014 at 11:38 AM

DITTO.

And,

Mitt Romney is a decent man and would have made a good president.
But we’ve turned into an indecent country.

vityas on January 5, 2014 at 11:20 AM

DITTO again.

Romney and family are decent, intelligent people and his response today was entirely admirable to the indecency from MSNBC.

However, the only proof of their sincerity as to any apology will be their change in behavior. If we don’t see that, their apology is meaningless, false, insincere.

MSNBC remains a disgusting but accurate example of the random, average Leftwing perspective and state of mind: I read their same sort of derangement daily on the internet, elsewhere, in the ‘average’ Leftwing article, commenter, tweeter.

We lost a chance to have a good guy in the Presidency when we didn’t elect Mitt Romney. For whatever reasons — I could mention the prominent ones but chose not to now — he was the best candidate and instead, the country brought utter incompetence and ruin into the White House based upon, to a great degree, he decrepitude of MSNBC promoting the worst possible choice.

Lourdes on January 6, 2014 at 1:08 AM

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 9:56 PM

+ 100..Excellent post!!..:)

Dire Straits on January 6, 2014 at 12:51 AM

Agreed, as are all the other posts by “kim roy,” — very well said.

Interesting that the same users grousing today about Romney were the loudest attacking any who supported him and generally had the same complaints about him prior to the election that they’re still malingering about here.

There’s never going to be some Big Giant Perfect Hero Celebrity for the Right and I hope people who expect this will come to their senses and look at the BIG PICTURE next time when voting. As long as all the nattering continues about this aching toe and that torn hemline, the Right will lose.

Our nation lost a great opportunity to move us all to better conditions when we didn’t elect Romney. I don’t agree with him on all things but I’d still have preferred him in the Presidency than the rotten thing we now must contend with.

Lourdes on January 6, 2014 at 1:16 AM

And, I gotta’ add, putting Romney up next to the likes of McCain again, it’s unquestionably a no-choicer. The GOP has to get past this commitment to failure.

Lourdes on January 6, 2014 at 1:18 AM

As a Romney supporter, both times, I have also been a strong TP supporter and backer, they are not separate issues and would greatly look for a Paul, Cruz, Lee, etc, presidency. I know Cruz may have some of the same issues Obama still has never resolved and if Cruz is elected it will be typical of the hypocrite liberals to come out and attack Cruz on the natural born citizen item. I DO believe in the Framers intent on natural born citizen for president and so this may be a roadblock for Cruz but we’ll see…

g2825m on January 6, 2014 at 1:39 AM

I always find this kind of bickering between conservatives a hoot. If it’s indicative of the rest of the voting public, get ready for President Hillary Clinton in 3 years.

And then thanks…again!

anuts on January 6, 2014 at 2:16 AM

Is Romney doing black-face there…

I kid, I kid

nonpartisan on January 5, 2014 at 3:19 PM

You should have said that when you said that blacks are genetically incapable of being law abiding gun owners.

But you weren’t kidding were you?

Alberta_Patriot on January 6, 2014 at 3:08 AM

Our nation lost a great opportunity to move us all to better conditions when we didn’t elect Romney. I don’t agree with him on all things but I’d still have preferred him in the Presidency than the rotten thing we now must contend with.
Lourdes on January 6, 2014 at 1:16 AM

Well said.

It disappoints me to see the same people once again doing their usually boo-hooing, and no candidate has even declared yet. Christie is nowhere near inevitable.

I’m beginning to think people like ddrintn, who only posts in Romney threads where he can whine about having been called “Obama supporter” and about having been told Romney could win, enjoy spewing their same, tiresome complaints over and over.

Ok, let’s cut to it. Which candidates would be acceptably conservative, and who actually has a shot?

Palin? She isn’t running. Ever. Yes, I said it. Deal. With. It. And her chances of winning would be near zero, anyway, due as much to her own actions as anything else. Moving on…

Cruz? Let’s hope he runs and see how it goes. But if he doesn’t run…

It comes down to Rand. I have serious issues about his position on illegal immigration, but I’ll be listening to him over the next few years.

Look, Romney was strong on the illegal immigration issue. Far and away the best choice.

So pathetic to see the crybabies here ALREADY pouting about the names they anticipate being called on the internet by some supposed GOPe supporters. Instead of crying like little girls, why don’t they man up and work for the conservative candidate of their choice. These people, like ddrintn, never like to promote anyone because they are too in love with complaining about other choices.

bluegill on January 6, 2014 at 3:43 AM

As a Romney supporter, both times, I have also been a strong TP supporter and backer, they are not separate issues and would greatly look for a Paul, Cruz, Lee, etc, presidency. I know Cruz may have some of the same issues Obama still has never resolved and if Cruz is elected it will be typical of the hypocrite liberals to come out and attack Cruz on the natural born citizen item. I DO believe in the Framers intent on natural born citizen for president and so this may be a roadblock for Cruz but we’ll see…
g2825m on January 6, 2014 at 1:39 AM

Cruz is a natural born citizen. And so is Obama.

Embarrassing to see the birtherism linger.

bluegill on January 6, 2014 at 4:00 AM

Who else would you all like to see run? Instead of whining about those candidates we don’t like, how about mentioning potential strong conservative candidates.

bluegill on January 6, 2014 at 4:03 AM

Who else would you all like to see run?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ………. DRAT!!

I just spent too long writing a lengthy comment about that, and this site’s cursed ‘refresh’ feature just wiped it out.

Oh, well. The gist of it was that we should pick a Governor. It should be someone who recognizes the importance of reclaiming our borders and stopping the invasion.

I am in California. It’s a wasteland here. Those of you in sane states with good Governors should let the rest of us know if you think they’d make a good President.

fadetogray on January 6, 2014 at 8:29 AM

Reading through all the comments and it seems that the right moderates learned nothing at all from the division and name calling within the Party in 2012 and never want to learn anything.

Until Republicans wimps like Karl Rove, McCant, Grahamnesty, King Peter, Boehnor and Steve LaTourette can acknowledge that there is no cookie cutter conservative a Kristie Kreme nomination guarantees a two-term President Hillary… we cede the country to the left, and continue down the dismal Socialist path that the far right decided was better than Romney gets blamed for us taking by the Socialist Establishment in the GOPe that forced the Romney nomination on us in the first place.

The problems in the country will only be fixed when the right stops being “right” the conservative rank-and-file tells the Socialist Establishment to “take a hike” for good and starts living in the real world actually winning elections and advancing conservatism.

Being right The moderate route is not working and will never work.

petunia on January 5, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Fixed for accuracy.

Myron Falwell on January 6, 2014 at 9:27 AM

Kudos to Mitt Romney for taking the high road..Shows a lot of class..:)

Dire Straits on January 5, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Screw class. I’m done with class. We’ve been worshiping class for a long time and where has it gotten us? A one-way ticket to Loserville. I want a dirty, vicious SOB who cares more about America than anything else on this earth — family, friends or faith — and will cut out hearts to save it.

rrpjr on January 5, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Strange . . . and here I thought the “dirty, vicious SOB” types were the Democrats who didn’t care about America.

What’s the point if you become what you oppose?

Trochilus on January 6, 2014 at 9:35 AM

If you want to compare strengths instead of negatives, Romney would have been a great president instead of what we got. He is a pretty good business man and would really have gotten the economy going again, then he would have hired not radicals and people with more ideas along that line, then the liar in chief we have, with all his radicals and incompetents in positions of power. Bennie B would have been gone from the Fed and the non stop printing of currency would have stopped. Don’t think he would have bailed out any failing companies, either.

Kissmygrits on January 6, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Romney knows that the best revenge is out-breeding them, which includes adoption.

baldilocks on January 6, 2014 at 9:42 AM

It may be time to ask if being the “nice guy” and accepting apologies from your habitually nasty adversaries is the way to win elections. Romney, being the habitually nice guy, failed to make the point that Democrats and MSNBC continually use this type of stratagy in attempts to denigrate the opposition and from the looks of things the stratagy works in a lot of demographics. Republican’s failure to attack the media and having a smash to the jaw to these knuckle draggers make them look weak and not deserving of leadership.

artman1746 on January 6, 2014 at 9:54 AM

But children – that’s beyond the line

Hey Mitt. Maybe you forgot that this is the party that celebrates the legal killing them–in the case of their leader as senator from Illinois–after they’re born.
It’s an election year so the GOP feels it necessary to pretend that they are against such evil.

Don L on January 6, 2014 at 10:58 AM

What’s the point if you become what you oppose?

Trochilus on January 6, 2014 at 9:35 AM

Ah, yes, the old “fear of becoming what you despise” canard. One of the great fallacies, the opiate of the complaisant. It is the extortion of brutes and bullies against men who lack confidence in their capacities and identity. Do you really believe we will become Leftists if we operate as ruthlessly against them as they act against us? Really? Do you believe you will? Sorry, I have more faith in myself. This can be a harsh world uninterested in rulebooks and codes of honor. Read Orwell — “to survive you must fight and dirty yourself.” It’s the way of the world. The Left knows this. Republicans have been caught in both a self-imposed and coerced confinement of manners for generations. I’m done with it. We’re at the crossroads of survival, and it’s time to recognize the terms of the war we’re in and fight with joy and terror, to terrorize more ferociously those who would terrorize us.

rrpjr on January 6, 2014 at 11:29 AM

The biggest one being your gubernatorial record, and your second biggest being your 47% remark.

Stoic Patriot on January 5, 2014 at 11:06 AM

BS the 47% was a true statement. He lost because much of the conservative base refused to vote for a Mormon and stayed home.

Bevan on January 6, 2014 at 12:22 PM

BS the 47% was a true statement. He lost because much of the conservative base refused to vote for a Mormon and stayed home.

Bevan on January 6, 2014 at 12:22 PM

He lost for many reasons, but the central one was that the American Voter has become dumber than a box of rocks.

“Obama cares more about people like me!” The Damnfool Idiot American Voter.

fadetogray on January 6, 2014 at 12:41 PM

The GOP won’t win back anything until they figure out that this game no longer has ANY RULES. Losing honorably is just losing. Mitt would be President right now if he’d played to win.

Demonized on January 6, 2014 at 2:04 PM

From now on I am going to refer to Mitt Romney as President Romney. Even a year after his defeat, and five years into Obama’s presidency, Mitt Romney is far more presidential in his demeanor and understanding of the way the world works than Obama will ever be.

Texas Zombie on January 6, 2014 at 2:20 PM

There were two choices – vote for Romney and take our chances or give up. Absolutely nothing wrong with *not* giving up.

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Putting Romney out there as the nominee WAS giving up.

You think they are having a good time?

kim roy on January 5, 2014 at 10:12 PM

You think their lives are some sort of living hell? Far from it. Every lone of them knows he’ll hold his office until he dies or chooses to retire.

ddrintn on January 6, 2014 at 6:55 PM

He lost for many reasons, but the central one was that the American Voter has become dumber than a box of rocks.

fadetogray on January 6, 2014 at 12:41 PM

The central one was that the American voter wasn’t given any real alternative. They’re smarty enough to know that. The outcome was carved in stone and plain as day the moment the GOP nominated the guy who proudly signed MassCare into law.

ddrintn on January 6, 2014 at 7:06 PM

* smart, not smarty.

ddrintn on January 6, 2014 at 7:07 PM

To all of the purists who stayed home rather than vote for the “Rino”, I hope you’re watching the man you helped elect destroy the country, while a genuinely good, dignified and accomplished man, remains the picture how a POTUS is supposed to behave. And a civilian. Thanks a pantload!

Kenz on January 7, 2014 at 12:24 AM

To all of the purists who stayed home rather than vote for the “Rino”, I hope you’re watching the man you helped elect destroy the country, while a genuinely good, dignified and accomplished man, remains the picture how a POTUS is supposed to behave. And a civilian. Thanks a pantload!

Kenz on January 7, 2014 at 12:24 AM

No, Obama was brought to us by those “purists” who insisted that a “pure” moderate was the only one who could win. And as usual they were wrong. Thank YOU. And we look forward to your similarly brilliant handiwork in 2016.

ddrintn on January 7, 2014 at 11:36 AM

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