New ObamaCare glitch: If you like your baby …

posted at 10:01 am on January 3, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Add this to the list of items about which Nancy Pelosi warned we wouldn’t know until we passed ObamaCare. Opponents of ObamaCare warned that the federal government couldn’t possibly design a system that would account for the millions and billions of choices made and changes handled in the health-care sector, but most of us figured that they could at least design a system that handled the most basic change of all to families (via Instapundit):

There’s another quirk in the Obama administration’s new health insurance system: It lacks a way for consumers to quickly and easily update their coverage for the birth of a baby and other common life changes.

With regular private insurance, parents just notify the health plan. Insurers will still cover new babies, the administration says, but parents will also have to contact the government at some point later on.

Right now the HealthCare.gov website can’t handle such updates.

It’s a reminder that the new coverage for many uninsured Americans comes with a third party in the mix: the feds. And the system’s wiring for some vital federal functions isn’t yet fully connected.

That’s not the only family change that Healthcare.gov can’t handle properly. It can’t deal with marriages, or divorces, or deaths in the family, or income changes, or moving to new houses, according to Yahoo’s Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar. In fact, it looks like the new system just assumes that everything will remain static from the enrollment period until … eternity.

Insurers warned HHS that they needed to have this functionality from the start. Bob Laszewski, who anticipated most of the problems in the Healthcare.gov rollout, calls this what it is:

“It’s just another example of ‘We’ll fix that later,’” said Bob Laszewski, an industry consultant who said he’s gotten complaints from several insurer clients. “This needed to be done well before January. It’s sort of a fly-by-night approach.”

It’s more like a freeze-by-night approach in effect. It raises significant questions about potentially significant gaps in the system for choices that are more nuanced than basic.  After all, if they couldn’t get a system to handle new babies, what else can’t it handle? This is right out of F. A. Hayek’s Road to Serfdom, which explains in great detail why central control over economies are doomed to failure.

By the way, Oregon has dumped its second high-ranking official over the ObamaCare failure in the state:

The man who led Oregon’s problem-plagued health insurance exchange has submitted his resignation. …

King came under fire when the online enrollment system failed to go live in October. The state’s online exchange still hasn’t launched and Oregon has had to rely exclusively on paper applications.

King is the second official connected to the exchange to resign. Carolyn Lawson, chief information officer for the Oregon Health Authority who oversaw most of the exchange’s development, resigned in mid-December.

Why hasn’t anyone been fired at HHS over this debacle?


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this cant be fixed becuase it was designed not to be “fixable” – IT WAS DESIGNED TO DESTROY A FUNCTIONING SYSTEM.

t8stlikchkn on January 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM

+1

rogerb on January 3, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Yep.

davidk on January 3, 2014 at 12:24 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Nope, all you guys.

smoothsailing on January 3, 2014 at 12:28 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

So you admit there are flaws.

What are liberals doing to find solutions?

Oh, more of the same.

That’s the definition of?

davidk on January 3, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Apparently, the morons who wrote this law figured that, with all the “free” birth control flying around, no one would ever reproduce.

Sandra “Bury-Me-In-A-’Y'-Shaped-Coffin” Fluke heartily approves.

CurtZHP on January 3, 2014 at 12:36 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

No…

Obama: “I Will Not Negotiate”

Seven Percent Solution on January 3, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Seven Percent Solution on January 3, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Bingo.

The screaming black child threw a temper tantrum and insisted he didn’t need grownups’ help.

So hilarious watching “Harvard-educated” liberals like nonpartisan demonstrate that a stupid black child controls their minds, their worldviews, and everything they touch.

northdallasthirty on January 3, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Why not? His victim died at home:

O.J. Simpson ‘is undergoing tests for BRAIN CANCER and is begging Obama to pardon him so he can die at home’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2532719/O-J-Simpson-undergoing-tests-BRAIN-CANCER.html

davidk on January 3, 2014 at 12:42 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

The President isn’t looking for solutions. He’s looking for someone to blame.

de rigueur on January 3, 2014 at 12:48 PM

damn socons:

Some 22 states enacted 70 new provisions to target abortion last year, the second most ever, prompting an outcry from Planned Parenthood, which accused “out-of-touch Tea Party politicians” with using “every underhanded trick in the book to get these laws passed.”

http://washingtonexaminer.com/70-new-anti-abortion-laws-okd-in-22-states-second-most-ever/article/2541498

davidk on January 3, 2014 at 12:48 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Well now, nice of you to whine with this tired tripe…

..let’s see….back in 2010, the Repubs HAD solutions, and
were told to sit down, and shut up. Consequently, this
monstrosity of a bill was passed with NO Republican votes.
The first time in our nation’s history, that such a large
bill to affect literally the entire Nation would be approved
in such an authoritarian manner…..now you want us to come
to the rescue???

You have a woman named Nancy Pelosi, who said we had to pass
this, to find out what’s in it. Well, we found out it’s a giant
bag of Sh*t thrown in our faces…no thanks, YOU clean it up!

ToddPA on January 3, 2014 at 12:54 PM

There’s another quirk in the Obama administration’s new health insurance system: It lacks a way for consumers to quickly and easily update their coverage for the birth of a baby and other common life changes.

ObamaCare isn’t designed for live baby births; just abortions.

bw222 on January 3, 2014 at 12:55 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

If you remember, moron, Republicans weren’t allowed to have any input into ObamaCare. Why couldn’t your parents have believed in abortion? The world would have been a better and far more intelligent place without you.

bw222 on January 3, 2014 at 12:57 PM

what a pathetic non-sequitor…I don’t begrudge our President taking some R&R, considering the stress he faces daily (evident by his rapid aging during his presidency)

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:22 AM

Well, I *DO* begrudge it to him, considering the stress, unhappiness, and hardship he is directly responsible for in millions of households (including folks in MY family) across America. He has shredded the economy, ruined the health insurance industry, and done his best to turn this country into a third-world wannabe. He is a pathetic excuse for a president.

Othniel on January 3, 2014 at 1:02 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

You can’t be serious.

The President and Congress wrote this law without Republican input.

They passed the law without Republican votes.

They forced Republicans to the sidelines during the whole process.

And now you want to know why they stand on the sidelines and complain?

Reminds me when I tell my 13 year old not to do something and he does it anyway because he thinks he’s so much smarter than me. Then when all hell breaks loose and he is stuck, he starts whining to me, “Dad, can you fix this?!”

So, you remind me of a child. How’s the basement where you live?

goflyers on January 3, 2014 at 1:22 PM

at what cost? is a political victory worth sacrificing the lives of poor and kids?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:19 AM

What do you care about kids (abortion) or the poor (perpetual welfare)? We already know the answer for Democrats… OF COURSE THE POLITICAL VICTORY IS WORTH IT!!!

For us conservatives, we care about kids (pro-life) and the poor (getting them off welfare). Democrats… those are just fodder for the political machine.

dominigan on January 3, 2014 at 1:36 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

The entire law is flawed. Republicans jumped in and offered to repeal it. That’s the first step to a solution.

dominigan on January 3, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Love that pic of the baby doing a face palm.

Buttercup on January 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Cuz we’re racist and would rather push old people off of cliffs.

Buttercup on January 3, 2014 at 1:58 PM

at what cost? is a political victory worth sacrificing the lives of poor and kids?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:19 AM

Let’s go to Hillary Clinton’s advice on this? “And what difference at this point does it make!”

Talk to the families of the four dead Americans from the Benghazi raid! This administration will do anything to cover for a corrupt president!

fbcmusicman on January 3, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Evidently, while the vast majority believe that death and taxes are the only certainties in life, the ObamaCare system believes that death is optional.

Socratease on January 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Maybe because we don’t believe government is the solution to every problem?

Socratease on January 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

The President IS the flaw. You elected a character out of a cheap TV movie as President. There’s no fixing that.

kcewa on January 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Sure, repeal the POS. It was better before this fiasco.

Then:
1) Set up government run hospitals/health facilities for uninsured.
2) Set up healthcare spending accounts, non taxable and no limits.
3) Have posted prices for consumers.
4) limit litigation on doctors.

Pretty fricken simple I would say.

-west

mr_west on January 3, 2014 at 2:43 PM

I have a great idea Why don’t we just scrap the whole thing and go straight to single payer designed by the folks that gave us ObamaCare in the first place! //Michael Moore and the rest of the moron left

txmomof6 on January 3, 2014 at 3:02 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Why would we want to help this scam? If the Dems wanted to rob banks, should we drive the getaway car?

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 3, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Does everyone realize what’s going to happen when a non-income producing member of a household dies in a situation where the family is getting a subsidy?

That’s right, they will now be a smaller family and their income level did not go down, so in many cases will no longer qualify for the same subsidy.

So keep everyone alive folks, or you will have to pay more for insurance.

Exit question: why has this not been pointed out yet?

NavyDavy on January 3, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Exit question: why has this not been pointed out yet?

NavyDavy on January 3, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Shhhh, the GOP is in a coma.

faraway on January 3, 2014 at 4:02 PM

What I think will be even more precious is January of 2015 when all of the O-minions run into H&R Block for their annual allotment of all of their taxes plus some of mine back, and find out they are getting no refund because they had a 400 dollar a month tax credit all year already, so there’s no EIT credit for them.

NavyDavy on January 3, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Social Security cannot handle an accurate account of deaths as it is. Money disappears down a black hole of unaccountability.

onlineanalyst on January 3, 2014 at 6:53 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

…now you are copying and pasting?…how many times are you going to say the same thing…over the months…when it comes to JugEarCare?…you are becoming… a boring troll!

KOOLAID2 on January 3, 2014 at 7:41 PM

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Wait a second, lil pismire….

The leftists absolutely refused to allow anyonr from the Right to have any input into this monstrosity before it was “passed”, “deemed, whatever.

But now that it is as big a failure as we predicted….

you pissants want us to fix it for you!

Sorry, charlie…too bad, tuna…it’s yours. You azzclowns own it…ALL.

The only reason you want our help to fix your mess is so that you can try to splash some guilt for the mess over our way. And because you idiots KNOW that it cannot be fixed at all. If you thought it could be fixed, you’d never let the Right within a mile of it…so you could ‘hog the glory’.
Well, start hoggin’, byotch. The ‘glory’ is all yours.

FOAD & ESAD

Solaratov on January 3, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Why hasn’t anyone been fired at HHS over this debacle?


Because if the WH fired someone it would be a sure sign to the American people that this was a real scandal. If no one is fired then the administration can try to tough it all out as just more politics as usual. After all, how can it be just another phony scandal if they start firing people?

Fred 2 on January 3, 2014 at 9:18 PM

Every single day brings more evidence of the unmitigated disaster that is Obamacare. We have John Roberts to thank for that.

Conservchik on January 4, 2014 at 12:00 AM

many uninsured Americans comes with a third party in the mix

Actually, it’s a fourth party: the patient, the doctor, the insurer, and now the NSA/IRS/DHS/OFA overlord.

flicker on January 4, 2014 at 1:32 PM

In fact, it looks like the new system just assumes that everything will remain static from the enrollment period until … eternity.

Seeing as these are the same people who push for a “living wage” for burger-flippers at McDonalds, their default attitude seems to be you’ll be in the same station in life perpetually.

it’s easy to stand on the sidelines and find flaws, why don’t conservatives jump in with the President and find solutions instead?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Why? Because the President has made it explicitly clear: he won. He flat-out refuses to negotiate with Republicans. So I’m all for pointing out — long, hard and repeatedly — what a flipping mess this is. These aren’t just “flaws”; these are serious errors that are screwing with people’s lives, health, employment, and finances.

Democrats voted for this monstrosity without a single Republican vote. What motive do Republicans have to save said Democrats from twisting in the wind? They. Were. Warned.

There’s another quirk in the Obama administration’s new health insurance system: It lacks a way for consumers to quickly and easily update their coverage for the birth of a baby and other common life changes.

With all that free birth control, people are still…having babies?

If accidental, it’s a testament to the incompetency of this administration.

I’ll try not to be cynical but, honestly, who knows with this administration. Didn’t a few well-known Democrats say we need universal free access to birth control because babies are just so darned expensive? Isn’t making it difficult to near-impossible to insure a newborn a great way to…discourage making newborns?

englishqueen01 on January 6, 2014 at 1:51 PM

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