Report: Only half of new ObamaCare enrollees in 17 states have paid first month of premiums

posted at 11:31 am on December 31, 2013 by Allahpundit

No way to know yet if the federal exchange is also seeing a 50 percent payment rate system-wide, but if it is, we’re looking at close to 500,000 people whose new coverage will begin tomorrow in some sort of limbo. Or maybe more, actually: At least one insurance company is seeing payment rates closer to 35 percent, and the Journal found one man who signed up in late November who still hasn’t been billed yet by his new insurer. That’s the fruit of chaos imposed on the industry by Obama and HHS in moving around deadlines haphazardly to protect themselves politically. They moved the sign-up deadline back nine days, to Christmas Eve, and then they “suggested” that the payment deadline be moved back to January 10th, all but forcing insurers to cover people retroactively. Expect a new “suggestion” for them to move the payment deadline back further into January, as some insurers have already done, if that 500,000 can’t get their acts together in time to pony up the 10th.

How chaotic is it right now? One insurance exec predicts that people will be bringing printouts from the exchange websites to the doctor in lieu of insurance cards because the industry simply can’t meet the logistical demands created by the White House to send everyone their card in time.

Normally, insurers require payment for coverage before the coverage begins. They count an enrollment as complete only when the first month’s premium has been received from a customer. As of Monday, however, only about half of enrollees billed for plans offered by more than 100 insurers in 17 states had paid their first month’s premium, said Mark Waterstraat, chief strategy officer at Benaissance, a third-party billing firm that works for those insurers…

After the federal government extended the deadline to sign up for coverage from Dec. 15 to Christmas Eve, most insurers in turn extended their deadlines for payment, some as late as Jan. 10 for coverage starting Jan. 1. Some, like Independence Blue Cross, a Philadelphia-area insurer, pushed the deadline as far back as Jan. 28. Humana Inc. said Monday that it would accept payments as late as Jan. 31.

Independence Blue Cross is pre-emptively sending insurance cards to consumers before they have paid, said Brian Lobley, a senior vice president. The insurer dispatched 20 workers over the weekend to create the plastic membership cards and ship them to presumptive enrollees. The plans won’t be “active” until the new customers actually pay Independence, but mailing the cards early will allow them to start using their plans right away once they have paid, Mr. Lobley said.

I’m guessing HHS will announce this weekend, while the media’s still in its holiday slumber, that they’re “suggesting” insurers follow Humana’s lead and extend their own payment deadlines from the 10th to the 31st. That’s the beauty of these White House “fixes”: There’s no limit to them, really, because insurers are in no position to resist even if what Obama wants doesn’t technically carry the force of law. HHS already threatened to exclude companies that don’t comply with its every ass-covering whim from the exchanges next year, a potentially terrible financial blow given how many millions more consumers will have been forced onto them by then. This is what a government takeover of health care looks like.


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6 signed up on day one

600 million, or several billion, for site expense alone

6 million lost ins.

It was the year of the sixes.

Schadenfreude on December 31, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Sebelius refuses to give the cost of the site to the committee. It’s been 7 weeks since they’ve asked…and…nada.

Schadenfreude on December 31, 2013 at 11:35 AM

That’s the beauty of these White House “fixes”: There’s no limit to them, really, because insurers are in no position to resist even if what Obama wants doesn’t technically carry the force of law.

Pajama-obama-mugabe of the USSA!

Schadenfreude on December 31, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Starting tomorrow, Millions of Americans would wish the Republican Party was made up of all Ted Cruz who wanted to shut down Obamacare.

BroncosRock on December 31, 2013 at 11:39 AM

“This sh1t ain’t free?”

-Half of New ObamaCare Enrollers

portlandon on December 31, 2013 at 11:39 AM

They have gone to bed with the devil and awaken surprised there are pitchforks in their back….suck on it ins execs, you made your own bed…as for me and my family, we are off to a health care sharing ministry, never to return again…

hillsoftx on December 31, 2013 at 11:40 AM

This makes me so excited to see what another month will bring.

Meremortal on December 31, 2013 at 11:41 AM

“There’s definitely going to be a period of confusion…”

and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia-work base, that has an attachment. At that time, a friend shall lose his friend’s hammer, and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o’clock.

Flange on December 31, 2013 at 11:41 AM

BREAKING:

HHS releases statement authorizing SSA cards as evidence of medical insurance.

“Just send the bill to HHS”

BobMbx on December 31, 2013 at 11:42 AM

HHS already threatened to exclude companies that don’t comply with its every ass-covering whim from the exchanges next year, a potentially terrible financial blow given how many millions more consumers will have been forced onto them by then.

I know if I was running an insurance company I’d be totally stoked about millions of customers who aren’t paying premiums but are expecting to be covered anyway. It’s a veritable gold mine Jerry, a freaking gold mine!!

As I said back in October, I suspect that many insurers will be dropping out of the exchanges throughout next year. The downside is just too big.

PetecminMd on December 31, 2013 at 11:44 AM

2014 will be the year the Tea Party finally takes control of the party, and bring back America to its glory days. The republican challengers to Graham, and it Mitch, and all the establishment republican should remain people that they did not want to fight Obamacare. They trashed conservatives who did want to fight Obamacare.

BroncosRock on December 31, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Starting tomorrow, Millions of Americans would wish the Republican Party was made up of all Ted Cruz

BroncosRock on December 31, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Not even if acid were legalized in all 50 states.

MJBrutus on December 31, 2013 at 11:45 AM

and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia-work base, that has an attachment. At that time, a friend shall lose his friend’s hammer, and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o’clock.

Flange on December 31, 2013 at 11:41 AM

LOL, nice. :)

Midas on December 31, 2013 at 11:47 AM

we’re looking at close to 500,000 people whose new coverage will begin tomorrow in some sort of limbo.

It’s much worse than that. The ’50%’ figure is of those who have been billed. How many others are lost in Obamacare limbo with their data not transmitted to the insurers, how many signed up at the last minute and haven’t been billed yet, etc?

Texastoast on December 31, 2013 at 11:48 AM

2014 will be the year the Tea Party finally takes control of the party, and bring back America to its glory days. The republican challengers to Graham, and it Mitch, and all the establishment republican should remain people that they did not want to fight Obamacare. They trashed conservatives who did want to fight Obamacare.

BroncosRock on December 31, 2013 at 11:45 AM

You’re way too optimistic, imo.

The Dems will do everything they can to keep this thing from blowing up in their faces, and the GOP will a) help them, and b) continue working to piss off their conservative base. I will not like it, but I will not be surprised at all to see the GOP get flayed at the ballot box in November.

And they’ll wonder wtf happened, I’m sure.

Midas on December 31, 2013 at 11:49 AM

I think we know how this will go down. Many or (more likely) most of those who haven’t paid won’t pay. King Obama will demand that nobody be refused service and we the taxpayers will foot the bill.

MJBrutus on December 31, 2013 at 11:51 AM

No worries – the insurance company bailout is right around the corner. Taxes will go up, premiums will sky rocket and us poor suckers in the middle will be stuck with long waits to see a doctor. The rich will pay cash for their care cuz they can and we will get the crap care, assuming we can get it at all.

Alibali on December 31, 2013 at 11:52 AM

That’s the beauty of these White House “fixes”: There’s no limit to them, really, because insurers are in no position to resist even if what Obama wants doesn’t technically carry the force of law. HHS already threatened to exclude companies that don’t comply with its every ass-covering whim from the exchanges next year

That might be true in some cases, but certainly not all. How about those states that only have one insurer that elected to be part of Obamacare? The feds need that insurer much, much more than it needs them. Think about the fallout from the news that such and such a state doesn’t have ANY insurance options available through Obamacare?

Texastoast on December 31, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Time for the expected “unexpected downward revision” of the enrollment statistics?

blammm on December 31, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Normally, insurers require payment for coverage before the coverage begins. They count an enrollment as complete only when the first month’s premium has been received from a customer.

My, what a quaint notion.

DaveDief on December 31, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Prediction: Of those who pay in month one, 50% will stop paying by month 6 once they reaize that it’s a piece of crapola insurance policy.

Besides, they can always sign up later if something bad happens. Who would pay for ar insurance if you could pay for it only after you had an incident?

Deafdog on December 31, 2013 at 11:58 AM

I understand that insurers, like any business, must comport with current realities, including the reality of government interference. And I understand that insurers are enticed by the prospect of the government forcing people to buy their product. But given the seemingly endless and arbitrary changes to the law, I’m still a little surprised that insurers have become such utter lapdogs to this administration. It could almost make a cynic think that the fix is in for a huge taxpayer-funded bailout in the not-too-distant future.

SacredFire on December 31, 2013 at 11:58 AM

This is what a government takeover of health care insurance looks like.

FIFY AP.

O-care has damn little to do with care, or even caring. They got what they wanted. “Stick it to the system” yeah baby!

Never mind that it worsens the situation for millions…

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on December 31, 2013 at 11:58 AM

I see that Obama is asking the media to ignore polls all next year.

No doubt he’ll have some off the record, background only, WH meetings with most of the CEO’s asking them to not report on any of the Obamacare related deaths and bankruptcies, and if he has any time left at the end of the meetings he’ll problem take a few IRS audit related questions if the groups have any.

Dusty on December 31, 2013 at 11:59 AM

No whining insurance companies….. you lay down with dogs…

cmsinaz on December 31, 2013 at 12:00 PM

That’s the beauty of these White House “fixes”: There’s no limit to them, really, because insurers are in no position to resist even if what Obama wants doesn’t technically carry the force of law. HHS already threatened to exclude companies that don’t comply with its every ass-covering whim from the exchanges next year

This is part of the Obamacare experience that HHS keeps talking about. Embrace the suck.

Happy Nomad on December 31, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Only half of new ObamaCare enrollees in 17 states have paid first month of premiums

And nobody is madder than Obama.

Happy Nomad on December 31, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Pay?…I thought it was free…

PatriotRider on December 31, 2013 at 12:03 PM

No whining insurance companies….. you lay down with dogs…

cmsinaz on December 31, 2013 at 12:00 PM

You wake up with Nancy Pelosi on one side and Kathleen Sebelius on the other. Imagine the walk of shame afterwards!

Happy Nomad on December 31, 2013 at 12:03 PM

But–but–but our Glorious Leader said it was free. Or was that Pelosi, or was that Reed, or was that Sibelius, or was that the website. I don’t remember now. But I am sure I was not supposed to have to pay for any of this. Wasn’t the government going to take over my life and care for me?

bartbeast on December 31, 2013 at 12:06 PM

By the end of 2014, Mexico will have a better healthcare delivery system than us…

PatriotRider on December 31, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Whaaaat?…I thought the GOP repealed this…

PatriotRider on December 31, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Oh dear, when obama hears about this he is going to be so very angry.

HumpBot Salvation on December 31, 2013 at 12:12 PM

If BC/BS is sending out insurance cards before people have paid, it means they have been promised a BIG PAYDAY from the federal government when those payments from individuals don’t come through.

Rational Thought on December 31, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Independence Blue Cross is pre-emptively sending insurance cards to consumers before they have paid,

That risk corridor provision must be more lucrative than we thought. This might be the first time in the history of insurance where the insurer is bending over backwards to provide coverage when they have a potential basis for arguing that the insured is not covered.

blammm on December 31, 2013 at 12:17 PM

I think we know how this will go down. Many or (more likely) most of those who haven’t paid won’t pay. King Obama will demand that nobody be refused service and we the taxpayers will foot the bill.

MJBrutus on December 31, 2013 at 11:51 AM

de facto single payer, which is where they’ve wanted to be all along.

Midas on December 31, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Prediction: most of insurance companies will be in red by end of 2014, and at minimum 2+ will either go bankrupt or be bought out because of financial issues because of obamacare

ConservativePartyNow on December 31, 2013 at 12:21 PM

500,000 insured created or saved!!!

BacaDog on December 31, 2013 at 12:24 PM

It’s much worse than that. The ’50%’ figure is of those who have been billed. How many others are lost in Obamacare limbo with their data not transmitted to the insurers, how many signed up at the last minute and haven’t been billed yet, etc?

Texastoast on December 31, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Good point. It pays to read carefully when looking at the bullcrap being put out by these scumbags.

forest on December 31, 2013 at 12:24 PM

“Thank you for this nifty insurance card, BC/BS.” “Whoa!!!! What the hell is a deductible?”

BacaDog on December 31, 2013 at 12:26 PM

I watched an interview yesterday of someone with either a State or Insurance co. who was bragging about one million plus signups. They then admitted the payments were running 5% to 15%. Which is what I had read elsewhere. 50% sounds high and likely from people who have preconditions want immediate care and are subsidized.

For me I got my monthly letter from the insurance co. yesterday. You are grandfathered in and do not change your plan. Or you are toast.

CW20 on December 31, 2013 at 12:29 PM

de facto single payer, which is where they’ve wanted to be all along.

Midas on December 31, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Should it go that way I believe that will seriously hasten the end. Whoever is extending the debt will run out of desire to participate any longer and it all falls down.

DanMan on December 31, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Barry O. will soon announce his “First 3 months are Free” ObamaCare sign up plan…..

albill on December 31, 2013 at 12:30 PM

“Look honey, Our deductible is almost $6,000!!!” “That must be the subsidy everyone is talking about. What a President!!!”

BacaDog on December 31, 2013 at 12:30 PM

wh is now touting 2 million have enrolled…huh? 1 million people enrolled in the last couple of days???

cmsinaz on December 31, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Happy Nomad on December 31, 2013 at 12:03 PM

ewwwwwe

cmsinaz on December 31, 2013 at 12:32 PM

bailout in 5….4….3

cmsinaz on December 31, 2013 at 12:33 PM

I still can’t feel sorry for these insurance companies. They supported this mess, and stand to eventually make a killing.

I feel sorry for the millions who are going to learn the meaning of being screwed by high deductibles…

blue13326 on December 31, 2013 at 12:34 PM

With the enrollment prowess of ACORN and SEIU half the “million” Obamacare signups were probably residents of our nation’s cemeteries.

Death is a pre-existing condition, right?

Left Coast Right Mind on December 31, 2013 at 12:36 PM

“So yer sayin’ the glass is half full!”

Lloyd Christmas

Mimzey on December 31, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Obamacare is quickly looking like a liberal’s list of New Years resolutions. They all involve making somebody else do something and taking no accountability on themselves.

Happy Nomad on December 31, 2013 at 12:38 PM

The most pathological lying President in history. He must have learned that as a Community Organizer

HAGGS99 on December 31, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Death by Obamacare.

petefrt on December 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Obama in Hawaii:

http://macrobits.pinetreecapital.com/wp-content/uploads/madmag.jpg

BuckeyeSam on December 31, 2013 at 12:43 PM

I am one of these “people”. exchange plan has been selected and paid. Insurer still says have no record.

gerrym51 on December 31, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Conservative internists should refer the flood of expanded-Medicaid patients to any liberal docs whom they know.

BuckeyeSam on December 31, 2013 at 12:47 PM

bailout in 5….4….3

cmsinaz on December 31, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Automatic bailouts for the insurance companies are part of democrat Obamacare. They are the corporatist fascism party.

Murphy9 on December 31, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Get a House investigation going immediately into the numbers.

Unless those numbers are protected by Executive Privilege.

BuckeyeSam on December 31, 2013 at 12:49 PM

HHS already threatened to exclude companies that don’t comply with its every ass-covering whim from the exchanges next year, a potentially terrible financial blow given how many millions more consumers will have been forced onto them by then.

Despite the possible upside from the millions the Administration are forcing into the exchanges, the insurance companies participating have to be thinking that being excluded, might not be the worst possible thing to happen. They are facing an Administration that is constantly moving the goalposts and changing the rules mid-game, all motivated by the political optics and their need to spin this EpicClusterFark.

They are also facing a technical infrastructure that remains incomplete. They have little control of fixing the technical infrastructure – but are the one’s who are increasingly bearing the brunt of the failures and incompetence of CMS.

Then we have the growing risks of adverse selection – where only those who have the greatest absolute need for health insurance are getting coverages. Yes, the government has promised to take care of the insurers, but those promises ultimately have the same credibility as ‘if you like your plan’ or ‘if you like your doctor’.

The government is serving everyone a giant crapsandwich – and they are arrogant and clueless enough to keep trying to force everyone to eat that crapsandwich – all in the name of checking the box of another step on the political ideological checklist. Because that is all this is – it has nothing to due with ‘fixing’ healthcare.

Athos on December 31, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Report: Only half of new ObamaCare enrollees in 17 states have paid first month of premiums

NYT Report: Only half of new ObamaCare enrollees in 17 states have paid first month of premiums!!

mankai on December 31, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Well, since the only people who have “signed up” are no-info, low-IQ, freeloading obama cultists, it’s surprising that any of them have paid, and you can bet that most won’t be paying, going forward.

Pork-Chop on December 31, 2013 at 12:52 PM

I am one of these “people”. exchange plan has been selected and paid. Insurer still says have no record.

gerrym51 on December 31, 2013 at 12:44 PM

So how has your Obamacare experience been? ;0

Happy Nomad on December 31, 2013 at 12:59 PM

The question I am most interested in is: what percentage is Medicaid?

bw222 on December 31, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Lessee here – population of the US, 313 million. Number that may be covered by Obamacare, 500,000. Roaring success, that.

whatcat on December 31, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Well, since the only people who have “signed up” are no-info, low-IQ, freeloading obama cultists

Pork-Chop on December 31, 2013 at 12:52 PM

You know that for a fact?

kcewa on December 31, 2013 at 1:11 PM

You know that for a fact?

kcewa on December 31, 2013 at 1:11 PM

We don’t know much of anything (including Medicaid enrollees) because “the most transparent administration evah” won’t tell us.

Perhaps you should be questioning them instead of a blog commenter.

mankai on December 31, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Perhaps you should be questioning them instead of a blog commenter.

mankai on December 31, 2013 at 1:14 PM

My point is we should be attacking the administration, not people we don’t know.

kcewa on December 31, 2013 at 1:18 PM

kcewa on December 31, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Thanks for the clarification.

mankai on December 31, 2013 at 1:19 PM

This is what a government takeover of health care looks like.

and the lefties kept saying “it’s not a government takeover.” we knew this would happen though. the government will do anything it wants and will punish any company that doesn’t go along with what it wants. it’s disgusting.

Sachiko on December 31, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Automatic bailouts for the insurance companies are part of democrat Obamacare. They are the corporatist fascism party.

Murphy9 on December 31, 2013 at 12:48 PM

The stupid Rs will fund it. May both go to Hell, with the ins. companies.

Schadenfreude on December 31, 2013 at 1:37 PM

“Thank you for this nifty insurance card, BC/BS.” “Whoa!!!! What the hell is a deductible?”

BacaDog on December 31, 2013 at 12:26 PM

The deductible is how much Obama knocks off your bill right from the top. Just because. Right?

trigon on December 31, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Sebelius refuses to give the cost of the site to the committee. It’s been 7 weeks since they’ve asked…and…nada.

Schadenfreude on December 31, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Well, in her defense (NOT!) she probably doesn’t know to the nearest 100 million…

And besides – cost? “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

(I was bouncing up and down in my chair and flailing my arms as I typed that.) (And yeah, I know I’m mixing catastrophes.)

climbnjump on December 31, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Let’s start with some solid New Year resolutions for Preezy already:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgeleef/2013/12/30/ten-new-years-resolutions-for-you-mr-president/

onlineanalyst on December 31, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Okay. Guess they won’t get 7 million.

White House health care adviser Phil Schiliro said Tuesday that a goal of seven million people signing up for health insurance by the end of March was “never our target number,” attempting to downplay a figure that has been circulated for months.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/31/wh-health-care-adviser-7m-sign-ups-never-target/#.UsMS9NcR0KM.twitter#ixzz2p52nyzU7
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

kcewa on December 31, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Lies, lies, and more lies. I doubt that a quarter of those who signed up have paid, meaning they are not enrolled.

Single-payer is the goal, and it shall be done. USSA.

Philly on December 31, 2013 at 2:01 PM

I agree. Somebody is lying.

ElectricPhase on December 31, 2013 at 2:15 PM

So, what happens if I have singed up but not paid, and suffer an injury requiring major surgery sometime next week? I can assume, based on O’s moving goalposts, that the insurance company will cover the expenses for the emergency surgery, I suppose. I also know that I can’t be denied coverage in the future for any reason.

What is my incentive to pay up?

BKeyser on December 31, 2013 at 2:33 PM

You know, long ago as a youth I naively thought that fascism wasn’t such a bad idea. Germany, after all, did pull out of the Great Depression faster than the US. Probably fascism is better than socialism is all that proved. Also, the Germans put semi-competent people in charge somewhere. Albert Speer turned out to have some ability. And Himmler was a genius at running a secret police that terrorized the citizens.

Obama doesn’t have an Albert Speer. He’s got an administration of Goerings. I’m grateful, actually, because no doubt there’s an evil, competent Himmler like figure that would REALLY cause havoc. Holder isn’t nearly as competent.

But in the end, it’s all fascism. And I’m pretty sure if I were an insurance company, I’d be looking long and hard at insuring something other than health. Or looking up the Chapter 7–not 11– laws and corporate dissolution. Because Obama’s not going to let these companies profit from this; not at all.

Vanceone on December 31, 2013 at 2:41 PM

Report: Only half of new ObamaCare enrollees in 17 states have paid first month of premiums
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Allahpundit on December 31, 2013 at 11:31 AM

.
Well, yeah … but you’re just focusing on the “few” places where things are at their worst, with all of this.

In the other 33 states (or is it 40 ?) everything’s humming along like a well-oiled machine, everyone has paid up their full premium, and things couldn’t be better, … right ? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . WHAT ? ! . . . . . . .

… . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ohhhhhh . . . . . . . . . . wow, never mind.

I didn’t say nuthin’.

listens2glenn on December 31, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Well, yeah … but you’re just focusing on the “few” places where things are at their worst, with all of this.

In the other 33 states (or is it 40 ?) everything’s humming along like a well-oiled machine, everyone has paid up their full premium, and things couldn’t be better, … right ? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . WHAT ? ! . . . . . . .

… . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ohhhhhh . . . . . . . . . . wow, never mind.

I didn’t say nuthin’.

listens2glenn on December 31, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Ummmm…ahhhhh…ummmm…Nope. I got nothin.

timberline on December 31, 2013 at 3:30 PM

The question I am most interested in is: what percentage is Medicaid?

bw222 on December 31, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Today, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services’ Marilyn Tavenner released some additional details.

Additionally, 3.9 million Americans learned they’re eligible for coverage through Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) in October and November. These numbers include new eligibility determinations and some Medicaid and CHIP renewals.

kcewa on December 31, 2013 at 3:52 PM

That comes from this

So 2 on Medicaid for every 1 on private insurance. Using HHS figures.

kcewa on December 31, 2013 at 3:55 PM

From the caption:

“There’s definitely going to be a period of confusion…”

Yeah, especially when you get a load of the questions that CMS wants to ask each enrollee:

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/uploadedfiles/pdf_cms_1_031313.pdf

Appendix A: List of Questions in the Online Application to Support Eligibility Determinations for Enrollment through the Health Insurance Marketplace and for Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program

Imagine the onesie-clad programmers trying to map the logic for this clusterfark.

AH_C on December 31, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Conservative internists should refer the flood of expanded-Medicaid patients to any liberal docs whom they know.

BuckeyeSam on December 31, 2013 at 12:47 PM

The most leftist doc that I knew in my area (he has since moved away) refused to take new medicaid patients, and refused to volunteer at the local free clinic.

/ leftist “intellectual” consistency

SubmarineDoc on December 31, 2013 at 4:03 PM

I’m surprised that King Barack the Magnificent doesn’t just “deem” everyone covered.

Then The Chosen One can “deem” all premiums paid!

Simple solution for a simple mind.

GarandFan on December 31, 2013 at 5:56 PM

I’m dead serious when I say that the three stooges could have done a better job at managing Obamacare than the progressive lunatics in D.C. What does it say about the millions of stooges who voted for them?

cajunpatriot on December 31, 2013 at 7:38 PM

“There’s definitely going to be a period of confusion…”

Pay???? Is that, like, slang for pajamas?????

WryTrvllr on December 31, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Heh, I’d love to pay my bill on time… course now that Obama and then the state insurance bureaucrat approved that we (individuals) could keep our 2013 plans for 2014 I now won’t get my new bill till mid month so I can pay it. And I didn’t get that info till mid December. Originally it was 12/20 for a cutoff date on deciding what I wanted to do for switching to the new obamacare plans or quit or go with cover oregon/medicaid.

Bluecross here went to monthly payments so technically I have until 1/31/14 to pay them or they cut off my insurance dating back to today, 12/31/13. Heck, I didn’t get my prorated December month bill until mid December, and within days of that I got a late notice that I owed them money on 12/1 and if I didn’t pay by 12/31 I’d be cut off back to 11/30.

But you know, its just a few glitches…

oryguncon on December 31, 2013 at 10:34 PM

…the clusterphuck is just beginning…until they get their single payer!

KOOLAID2 on December 31, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Really, how many cannot pay their deductibles

jake49 on January 1, 2014 at 1:21 AM

Since the Obamacare ™ delays do not have the force of law, all these companies are now in violation and assessment of potential claims and damages should begin, along with prosecution of the responsible officers in each company currently violating “the law of the land”.

virgo on January 1, 2014 at 2:42 AM