Confirmed: MSNBC pretty darned ignorant about Christianity and Scripture

posted at 11:31 am on December 28, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

The best part of this jaw-dropping display of ignorance from MSNBC’s Joy Reid on Christianity? It comes in a segment called — wait for it — “Pretenders”! Reid argues that Sarah Palin, whose latest book celebrates Christmas, was a hypocrite and a bad Christian because … she put up a Christmas tree! Why, the noted Biblical scholar Reid smirked, that’s a violation of Scripture:

JOY REID, SUBSTITUTE HOST: In “Pretenders” tonight, a merry Palin Christmas. Sarah Palin dropped by Fox & Friends to promote her manifesto on Christmas purity. She brought a treat better than Christmas cookies – family photos.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SARAH PALIN: In Skagway, Alaska, a little gold mining town where my dad was teaching school and coaching basketball, and that’s my older brother and older sister. And then that was on a college break. We were all in college at the same time my siblings and I home for an alumni basketball game in Alaska.

STEVE DOOCY, HOST: That’s really the key, isn’t it, as we look at another picture of the family. There they are.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

REID: Not so fast, Palin. We learned some important lessons on Monday about all the arbor activity in those pictures. I even had to break out the good book, not hers of course.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

REID: Certain parts of the Bible also appear to preach against let’s say, I don’t know, Christmas trees. Here’s Jeremiah 10-10, it reads:

“For the practices of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter. Like a scare crow in a cucumber field, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good.”

(END VIDEO CLIP)

REID: Now, a Christmas purist wouldn’t want to stray from the Bible on Christmas, would she? Everyone celebrates Christmas in their own special way. That could mean being tree-side with the family or even profiting off your [cause?] and commercialism. But if Sarah Palin wants us to believe there’s only one true meaning of Christmas, she can keep on pretending.

Unlike the segment with Michael Eric Dyson, which was an extemporaneous discussion where the guest said something utterly ignorant, this segment was written and produced ahead of time.  It apparently escaped everyone at MSNBC, including Reid, that no one buys a Christmas tree and “shapes it with a chisel” into “idols that cannot speak.” No one is worshiping the tree. And unlike the segment with Dyson, Reid and MSNBC produce the Scripture reading where that distinction is actually explicit and clear, and utterly refutes the argument as Reid is making it in an attempt to cheap-shot Palin … and a lot of other Christians over a Christian holy day.

Did anyone at MSNBC bother to research this particular reference from Jeremiah before calling hundreds of millions of Christians idolaters? Did they even bother to read it for comprehension, or did they just do a search at Bible Gateway for “tree” to fit their preconceived argument? And did no editor at MSNBC have even enough of a passing familiarity with Christianity, the Bible, and Christmas trees to think, “Hey, maybe we’ve got this argument wrong?”

Layers of fact-checkers and editors, indeed.

Quite obviously, Reid and her cohorts at MSNBC like to think of themselves as the smartest people in the room. Unfortunately, as Reid has demonstrated all week, they’re just pretenders.

Note: I linked Noel Sheppard and Newsbusters on this, and be sure to read all of Noel’s post, which is well researched. Maybe MSNBC could learn a lesson from him.


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Too bad liberals don’t like acorns.

Akzed on December 28, 2013 at 11:33 AM

This passage, of course, describes carving trees into idols.

What a dope.

Akzed on December 28, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Hot air confession booth open for bidnezz.

Murphy9 on December 28, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Good Grief!

trigon on December 28, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Quite obviously, Reid and her cohorts at MSNBC like to think of themselves as the smartest people in the room. Unfortunately, as Reid has demonstrated all week, they’re just pretenders.

Reid in fact worked for the O’bama campaign in Florida in 2008. That year the candidate she supported set a new alltime record for high school dropout votes, and four years later, he lost the vote of college graduates to his opponent.

All I can find about Reid’s “academic background” is that she majored in film at Harvard. She doesn’t even have her own wiki page so all evidence of her alleged “intelligence” is pure speculation.

Del Dolemonte on December 28, 2013 at 11:39 AM

It’s not ignorance. It’s intentional.

Ben Hur on December 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Yeah, and all those Germans singing “O Tannenbaum” lead to the rise of Hitler or something too.

Drained Brain on December 28, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Wow! Mr.Ed [the horse] and Joy Reid separated at birth. My apologies to Mr. Ed.

RickinNH on December 28, 2013 at 11:47 AM

All I can find about Reid’s “academic background” is that she majored in film at Harvard. She doesn’t even have her own wiki page so all evidence of her alleged “intelligence” is pure speculation.

Del Dolemonte on December 28, 2013 at 11:39 AM

U silly wabbit, that b Harry Reid impersonating Micksheel Obamy. I can’t believe you don’t recognize it. Come on Del, get with the program.

jarhead0311 on December 28, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Foolish Christians.

You people don’t seem to understand that facts do not matter when we set our sights upon white trash like Phil Robertson or Sarah Palin.

Ends justify the means, fake but accurate and all that.

turfmann on December 28, 2013 at 11:48 AM

You could have stopped at “pretty darned ignorant” and nailed it perfectly.

irongrampa on December 28, 2013 at 11:49 AM

This is just sad.

thebrokenrattle on December 28, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Good Gawd,

so,..

..Joy deciphered Tree Worshipping Idols in Jereimah 10-10 qoute
thingy, and WishCasted/Projected it on SarahCude Christmas WTF/WTH!!

canopfor on December 28, 2013 at 11:51 AM

I would have argued perhaps Joy had Christmas trees confused with Irminsul, but I cannot credit her that much knowledge, as she seemed ignorant of the most basic facts concerning one of the largest religions in the world, so I doubt she knows much of anything about European religious history.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on December 28, 2013 at 11:52 AM

daily kos tv, haters gotta hate.

rob verdi on December 28, 2013 at 11:52 AM

ProgTards War on A to Z!!

canopfor on December 28, 2013 at 11:52 AM

If the intent of the piece is to slam Sarah Palin, the MSNBC audience will forgive any and all inaccuracies, whether or not they are intentional. Their PDS knows no limits.

KS Rex on December 28, 2013 at 11:52 AM

And did no editor at MSNBC have even enough of a passing familiarity with Christianity, the Bible, and Christmas trees to think, “Hey, maybe we’ve got this argument wrong?”

Heh…don’t be silly, Ed. MSNBC does not employ layers of fact-checkers or editors; they are like the self-important school yearbook renegade staff. They are out on the limb all alone, but too stupid to know it is a limb they are walking on. They are self-contained in their sheltered little world of leftism, too poorly educated to understand the world outside the cocoon, and too stupid to research the things they want to talk about.

This particular affirmative-action retard is too excited to be offered work on-camera to bother challenging the mind-set there…the standards in her “community” are set so low that her abject failure will be viewed as a complete success because she was ON TV! Looking like a complete idiot, but yes…on TV!

Jaibones on December 28, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Last time I checked, the Book of Jeremiah was not in the New Testament (you know, the part with “Christ” in it).

RoadRunner on December 28, 2013 at 11:58 AM

The funny but sad thing is that the 7-8 viewers this nincompoop had believe her.

Rio Linda Refugee on December 28, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Last time I checked, the Book of Jeremiah was not in the New Testament (you know, the part with “Christ” in it).

RoadRunner on December 28, 2013 at 11:58 AM

My immediate thought while reading the post.

Rio Linda Refugee on December 28, 2013 at 12:01 PM

An ignorant NE Liberal, just like her fellow travelers at A&E.

kingsjester on December 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Besides, Joy didn’t produce the segment, she only read it. That means the ignorance of this runs behind the camera as well.

Rio Linda Refugee on December 28, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Last time I checked, the Book of Jeremiah was not in the New Testament (you know, the part with “Christ” in it). RoadRunner on December 28, 2013 at 11:58 AM

There’s plenty about the Messiah in the OT. Come on.

Akzed on December 28, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Speaking of the Alter of Liberalism, and, Hopey the Messiah:

School lesson portrays Obama as messiah
***************************************

‘More fitting for an authoritarian regime’
Published: 11/28/2013 at 4:45 PM
********************************

A new lesson plan for American school students, offered on an open marketplace for educators,

is reprising what some devout followers have called Barack Obama for several years already – a messiah.

Created by Sherece Bennett, it’s based on the book “Barack Obama: Son of Promise, Child of Hope” by Nikki Grimes.

Kyle Olson reported the plan on his Education Action Group website, commenting that it casts Obama “in a messianic light. Literally.”

In one passage, Olson points out, a young Obama sees beggars and wonders, “Will I ever be able to help people like these?’”

“Hope hung deep inside of him,” the book says.

Olson quotes another section: “Before dawn each morning, Barry rose – his mother’s voice driving him from dream land. ‘Time for learning English grammar and the Golden Rule. Be honest, be kind, be fair,’ she taught him.”

The lesson even uses biblical references to describe Obama, explaining how he changed his name from Barry.

“One morning, he slipped on the name he’d been born with. The name of his father, Barack. For the first time in his life, he wore it proudly – like a coat of many colors.”
(More…)
==========

http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/school-lesson-portrays-obama-as-messiah/

canopfor on December 28, 2013 at 12:05 PM

It’s not ignorance. It’s intentional.

Ben Hur on December 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM

I’m with ya there…nobody could be as ignorant as this woman.

JetBoy on December 28, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Confirmed: MSNBC pretty darned ignorant about Christianity and Scripture

They act ignorant but they’re agenda driven…All of the obamanation’s minions are.

Gohawgs on December 28, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Hmmmmm, ………………………..

“This guy was president before I was . . . This guy was God before I was.” – Barack Obama -in reference to Morgan Freeman’s portrayal in “Deep Impact and “Bruce Almighty”

“This is bigger than Kennedy. . . . This is the New Testament.” . . .”I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don’t have that too often. No, seriously. It’s a dramatic event.” — Chris Matthews

“Obama’s finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don’t even really inspire. They elevate. . . . He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh . . . Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves.” — Ezra Klein

“I would characterize the Senate race as being a race where Obama was, let’s say, blessed and highly favored. That’s not routine. There’s something else going on. I think that Obama, his election to the Senate, was divinely ordered. . . . I know that that was God’s plan.”– Bill Rush

“I cried all night. I’m going to be crying for the next four years,” he said. “What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history. … The event itself is so extraordinary that another chapter could be added to the Bible to chronicle its significance.” — Rev. Jesse Jackson Jr.

http://obamaformessiah.com/

canopfor on December 28, 2013 at 12:10 PM

She sounds like one of the atheist trolls that come around here to stink up every thread on faith, spouting what they perceive to be embarrassing passages of Scripture (Protip: For the believer, there aren’t any, so don’t bother.).

They end up sounding like middle-schoolers getting their kicks by looking up dirty words in the dictionary.

CurtZHP on December 28, 2013 at 12:13 PM

There are certain Liberals who will always find a way to attack anyone who carries the Christian message of redemption and salvation. Personally, I will look forward to the day when people like Joy Reid come face to face with the Messenger.

Rovin on December 28, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Is this the best they have? Last time I checked Sarah palin is not running for an election. The crew at msnbc must simply terrified of her. Of course, she got Martin bashir fired so they must be looking for revenge

jaywemm on December 28, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Up next: The Theological scholars at MSNBC condemns Palin for taking a picture with the Easter bunny based on Leviticus 11:6.

Idiots.

Rocks on December 28, 2013 at 12:16 PM

I’m with ya there…nobody could be as ignorant as this woman.

JetBoy on December 28, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Actually, it’s intentional ignorance. Deliberate and militant ignorance.

No amount of facts will move or persuade them. and if you do no agree with and support them, you will be labeled a bigot.

dogsoldier on December 28, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Today’s Two Minutes Hate as presented by Joy Reid.

Stu Gotts on December 28, 2013 at 12:16 PM

So the white masters at MSNBC have sacrificed the future career of a black female to prove that they are dumber than Sarah Palin. This female is going to take a lot of recovering to get past this.

Old Country Boy on December 28, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Today’s Two Minutes Hate as presented by Joy Reid.

Stu Gotts on December 28, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Stu Gotts: And her evil twin,…Joy Behar!!!(sarc):0

canopfor on December 28, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Is it just me or has MSNBC turned into a bad imitation of TDS/Colbert?

Everything emanating from the left these days is unintentional, unfunny satire.

It’s kinda scary.

myiq2xu on December 28, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Oh Yeah? Well you’re all a bunch of religionists!

Picked up a new word while channel surfing last night.

agmartin on December 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM

The real pity is this isn’t the only thing they’re ignorant about. The next pitiful thing is that some other news outlet doesn’t point this out. NBC really needs to take it on the chin for this joke of a news network.

bflat879 on December 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM

It’s not even verse 10, it’s 3 &4 in my bible. What morons.

Speechlesstx on December 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM

canopfor on December 28, 2013 at 12:05 PM

canopfor on December 28, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Le Barf

22044 on December 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM

When worship of “trees” or their derivatives was assailed in the OT, and especially in Jeremiah’s time, it was generally shorthand for criticism of the worship of Ishtar/Astarte,the fertility goddess in the Babylonian/Sumerian pantheon, whose worship was associated with “sacred groves” and formalized temple prostitution. Not surprisingly, the Israelites of the day never completely shook their attachment to it, which is why the prophets continually railed against it. (and the sexual practices associated with it) And of course, it was also an attack on the practice of making any idol out of wood, which would have been any number of local gods known in the land from ancient times.

As with so much of the OT, especially when reading the prophets, the named object itself is inconsequential, and is best understood as a verbal placeholder for a much larger concept.

I can’t wait for the MSNBC hosts to discover the Story of Onan, and then they can giggle about it like we did in 7th grade confirmation class.

Tom Servo on December 28, 2013 at 12:22 PM

It’s not ignorance. It’s intentional.

Ben Hur on December 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM

I’m with ya there…nobody could be as ignorant as this woman.

JetBoy on December 28, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Agree. They’re twisting the (perfectly clear) meaning of the passage in Jeremiah to make it say what they want it to say… against Palin.

… in which [letters of Paul] are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 2 Peter 3:16

Unlearned and unstable. That about sums them up.

de rigueur on December 28, 2013 at 12:23 PM

There are some Christians who reject Christmas trees based on that bit of Scripture, plus the fact that the custom seems to originally have been of pagan origin. I never found their argument particularly compelling, since this passage was clearly about making an idol.

The argument for rejecting Christmas trees as part of purging all customs and traditions of pagan origin makes a little more sense. But if you’re going to go the whole purging route, you’ll have to come up with new names for the days of the week — and convince the larger culture to use them.

None of which changes the fact that for MSNBC to seize on this as some proof of hypocrisy and/or ignorance is, you know, hypocritical and ignorant.

There Goes the Neighborhood on December 28, 2013 at 12:23 PM

After all this time, Palin is still living rent-free in their poor, demented heads.

Rebar on December 28, 2013 at 12:25 PM

So does MSNBC switch up the hate on race and religion on odd and even days?

Even days: race.

odd days: religion.

Seems like non stop hate.

tetriskid on December 28, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Joy who?

Galtian on December 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM

BTW, is anyone wondering why MSNBC is spending time talking about Sarah Palin appearing on one of their competitor’s shows?

This is somehow news?

There Goes the Neighborhood on December 28, 2013 at 12:28 PM

The topics of race, religion, and sexual preference are the only arrows that the Liberals believe that they have left in their quiver.

What are they going to do, stand up for Obama’s record as President?

kingsjester on December 28, 2013 at 12:29 PM

And did no editor at MSNBC have even enough of a passing familiarity with Christianity, the Bible, and Christmas trees the English language to think, “Hey, maybe we’ve got this argument wrong?”

FIFY, Ed.

She sounds like one of the atheist trolls that come around here to stink up every thread on faith, spouting what they perceive to be embarrassing passages of Scripture

CurtZHP on December 28, 2013 at 12:13 PM

One of them did this just the other day with that exact bit of Scripture, making this very point. Have we outed a troll?

GWB on December 28, 2013 at 12:29 PM

This brain dead slug is disgusting.

rplat on December 28, 2013 at 12:35 PM

canopfor on December 28, 2013 at 12:05 PM

canopfor on December 28, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Le Barf

22044 on December 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM

22044:Yup, shining the light of truth, on the Left:0

canopfor on December 28, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Is this the best they have? Last time I checked Sarah palin is not running for an election. The crew at msnbc must simply terrified of her. Of course, she got Martin bashir fired so they must be looking for revenge

jaywemm on December 28, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Reid is in fact one of the leading “candidates” to take over Bashir’s time slot.

Del Dolemonte on December 28, 2013 at 12:39 PM

If center-right and right-wing sites would stop giving these idiots bandwidth they’d be off the TV in short order.

STOP.

Meremortal on December 28, 2013 at 12:40 PM

One of them did this just the other day with that exact bit of Scripture, making this very point. Have we outed a troll?
GWB on December 28, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Thot the same thing. Occam’s razor and all that means this meme has been percolating with the moonbats for a while.

AH_C on December 28, 2013 at 12:42 PM

To steal a line attributed to LBJ: If Sarah Palin walked across the Potomac in July, the headline at MSNBC would read:
“Palin can’t Swim!”

idesign on December 28, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Jaibones on December 28, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Bingo

CrazyGene on December 28, 2013 at 12:43 PM

She is homely and dumb. That’s a hard way to go through life.

celtic warrior on December 28, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Ed, you critisize as if truth and facts matter. We are clearly in an era of dispensation requiring us to suffer under a state ruling by a common whore core. Consistently unprincipled to the point of being totally predictable. Suffer not the little children to be indoctrinated that we may kill the family.

onomo on December 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM

It’s not ignorance. It’s intentional.

Ben Hur on December 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM

This.

BallisticBob on December 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM

“Confirmed: MSNBC pretty darned ignorant about Christianity and Scripture”

I don’t call MSNBC the 24/7 reality show Village Idiots for nuthin’.

Dusty on December 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Confirmed: MSNBC pretty darned ignorant.

FIFY

flipflop on December 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM

As Speechlesstx said above, the passage is from Jeremiah 10:3-4 not 10:10 so they could not get even that correct. Do they believe in facts. Then you might ask about fact checkers. And they used this to make fun of a Christian? MSNBC meet mirror.

mbabbitt on December 28, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Ed, really… this is a no brainer and I know that you had them figured out a lot sooner than today. They are everything the Good Book warns us about.

crosshugger on December 28, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Funny how atheists and agnostics are such experts in theology. These self declared ‘enlightened’ ‘progressives’ are apparently still threatened by Palin. For a bunch of malcontents who constantly declare their tolerance, they sure do go out of their way to constantly try to belittle other people.

ghostwalker1 on December 28, 2013 at 1:16 PM

She also makes the mistake, common among pretend Christians, of using Old Testament text to explain Christians values and admonitions.

pat on December 28, 2013 at 1:23 PM

I didn’t watch. I would surely be dumber if I did.

22044 on December 28, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Actually, if atheists and agnostics were experts in biblical theology they wouldn’t be atheists and agnostics any longer. That’s how the Word of God works against the doubters.

HiJack on December 28, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Libs love selectively editing us conservatives, but I love selectively editing libs much more.

Check this out:

REID: Not so fast, Palin . We learned some important lessons on Monday about all the arbor activity in those pictures. I even had to break out the good book, not hers of course.

REID: Certain parts of the Bible also appear to preach against let’s say, I don’t know, Christmas trees. Here’s Jeremiah 10-10, it reads: are worthless ; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter. Like a scare crow in a cucumber field….”

In case you weren’t up to weeding through all the strikethroughs, I’ve got Reid now confidently declaring, “Palin good of course” and “I a worthless scare crow.”

FlameWarrior on December 28, 2013 at 1:34 PM

So, to sum up:

When it comes to homosexual behavior, leftists tell Christians to ignore the Old Testament (and Paul) because Jesus never explicitly condemned homosexual behaviors.

But at the same time, we are supposed to extrapolate a verse about carving idols from wood to be a prohibition against Christmas trees, even though Jesus never explicitly forbid Christmas trees.

CJ on December 28, 2013 at 1:34 PM

MSNBC is less than irrelevant. They are incredibly biased and ignorant, so why would anyone who isn’t those things watch?

californiacitizen on December 28, 2013 at 1:45 PM

They are betting on the ignorance of the people who watch them, so that’s a pretty good bet…most everyone watching probably just nodded their head and turned to the bud’s and said “I knew it man”…

right2bright on December 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Just another example of why no one watches MSNBC.

Pork-Chop on December 28, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Where do they find these stupid Idiots? You can’t fix STUPID, you know.

tmgrant on December 28, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Joy Reid is an ugly ignorant scumhag, who makes cows appear Einsteinian.

Schadenfreude on December 28, 2013 at 1:56 PM

To be certain, Faux also has its own array of PC dummies…on display, daily, repeatedly.

Schadenfreude on December 28, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Isn’t Reid pretty much verifying Palin’s point that Christmas as a Christian tradition is under assault?

txhsmom on December 28, 2013 at 2:00 PM

So, to sum up:

When it comes to homosexual behavior, leftists tell Christians to ignore the Old Testament (and Paul) because Jesus never explicitly condemned homosexual behaviors.

But at the same time, we are supposed to extrapolate a verse about carving idols from wood to be a prohibition against Christmas trees, even though Jesus never explicitly forbid Christmas trees.

CJ on December 28, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Seems to be the long and short of it, yup.

This may be of interest to some folks, being at least tangentially related: http://www.piousfabrications.com/2010/12/pagan-origins-of-christmas.html

Othniel on December 28, 2013 at 2:04 PM

She also makes the mistake, common among pretend Christians, of using Old Testament text to explain Christians values and admonitions.

pat on December 28, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Actually, a Christian who doesn’t use the Old Testament to explain their values and the righteousness of God understands neither God nor His scripture.

GWB on December 28, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Their wisdom apparently comes from the belief that a Google word search results in great wisdom, nevermind the utter lack of any real understanding of either the passage they’re referencing as authority or whatever is being compared to that authority.

["I Googled "tree" and this is what I came up with. It's on the internet, so it must be correct."]

In reality, they should cancel their internet account because they’re too stupid to properly use the information.

EdmundBurke247 on December 28, 2013 at 2:12 PM

There is evil in the air…

albill on December 28, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Actually, a Christian who doesn’t use the Old Testament to explain their values and the righteousness of God understands neither God nor His scripture.

GWB on December 28, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Agreed

Othniel on December 28, 2013 at 2:38 PM

A tandem piece that explains the coercive conformity of the Left:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/367132/coercing-conformity-andrew-c-mccarthy

onlineanalyst on December 28, 2013 at 2:45 PM

MSNBC should stop “pretending” and simply run a nightly segment titled We Hate Us Some Sarah Palin. It could consist of a lone newscaster (to abuse the term) stating, “And, in other news, we still hate Sarah Palin.”

At least that would be honest. And cheaper to produce.

IndieDogg on December 28, 2013 at 2:50 PM

There’s plenty about the Messiah in the OT. Come on.

Akzed on December 28, 2013 at 12:04 PM

I just did a quick scan of the OT, and couldn’t find President Choom’s name anywhere.

RoadRunner on December 28, 2013 at 3:05 PM

With the exception of the House of Representatives, MSNBC seems to have a monopoly on black women with IQs under 50.

bw222 on December 28, 2013 at 3:09 PM

It takes how few seconds to find the history of Christmas trees – 7??

Pre-Christian societies liked the pine trees b/c they stayed green all year. Some used them as good omens, not much else. As stated in the comments, some carved them into idols.

However, the Christmas Tree tradition started in the 1500s by the Germans – and spread throughout Christianity. A nice way to “light” the path for our Savior.

Would be nice if MSNBC “proved” their supposed mental superiority rather than showing their mental inferiority.

MN J on December 28, 2013 at 3:11 PM

Cracks me up when an atheist uses scripture to try to prove their point.

TexAz on December 28, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Cracks me up when an atheist uses scripture to try to prove their point.

TexAz on December 28, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Or when liberals use Christianity to support federal spending. Used to be religion had no place in the governmental arena….but then again we have a D in office.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 28, 2013 at 3:20 PM

MSNBC worships socialist ideology and Duh Won. Not unexpected.

Philly on December 28, 2013 at 3:36 PM

So, to sum up:

When it comes to homosexual behavior, leftists tell Christians to ignore the Old Testament (and Paul) because Jesus never explicitly condemned homosexual behaviors.

But at the same time, we are supposed to extrapolate a verse about carving idols from wood to be a prohibition against Christmas trees, even though Jesus never explicitly forbid Christmas trees.

CJ on December 28, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Yes he did 1 Cor 6:9 explicitly condemns the effeminate (soft men this actually condemns a wide range of LGBT). If you are not manly in all ways you go to Hell.

She said it was 10:10 it was instead 10:2-5 and it was talking about taking a tree cutting it down and attaching a platform to make it stand up then decorating it with gold and silver. That sure sounds like a Christmas Tree to me. Nothing in this verse says they worshiped the tree. Pagans took these idols into their houses but the actual worship was in the High Places. This was like carrying a tailsman. Having it was supposed to bring good luck, harvest, love or a variety of things based on the Idol. Abrahams dad had hundreds but they just sat there. He did not worship them and Abraham made fun of them and destroyed them. He kept them for good fortune like you would a Saint medal of (…) now days. Yes that is forbidden in the bible.

No idea where the “research” for this article came from.

Steveangell on December 28, 2013 at 3:40 PM

I just did a quick scan of the OT, and couldn’t find President Choom’s name anywhere.

RoadRunner on December 28, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Yes, but did you do a word search for “fool”?

a babbling fool will come to ruin. Proverbs 10:8

The one who conceals hatred has lying lips,
and whoever utters slander is a fool.
Proverbs 10:18

Doing wrong is like a joke to a fool Proverbs 10:23

Fine speech is not becoming to a fool;
still less is false speech to a prince.
Proverbs 17:7

Let a man meet a she-bear robbed of her cubs
rather than a fool in his folly.
Proverbs 17:12

Crush a fool in a mortar with a pestle
along with crushed grain,
yet his folly will not depart from him.
Proverbs 27:22

de rigueur on December 28, 2013 at 3:52 PM

With the exception of the House of Representatives, MSNBC seems to have a monopoly on black women with IQs under 50.

bw222 on December 28, 2013 at 3:09 PM

And yet she’s a Harvard graduate.

Speaking of AA…

Deep Secrets of Affirmative Action

(Professor Richard) Sander is a professor of law at UCLA. In the preface to the book Sander (Sander and Taylor contribute individual prefaces to the book) refers to “the culture of secrecy and double-talk” with which the subject of the book is enshrouded in academia.

Sander describes himself as a former community organizer. He became interested in the subject of affirmative action in law schools when he joined the UCLA Law School faculty.

Sander himself wrote chapters 4 and 5 of the book. Chapter 4 discusses Sander’s research on the effects of “affirmative action” (racial preferences) in law schools. Sander’s pioneering account of this research was originally published in the 2005 Stanford Law Review as “A systemic analysis of affirmative action in American law schools.” The upshot of Professor Sander’s research is that affirmative action has perverse effects on the bar passage rates of its law school beneficiaries. Having read the book, I can say that he makes a powerful case.

Chapter 5 of the book is Sander’s extraordinary account of the lengths to which supporters of law school “affirmative action” went to suppress the publication of his law review article. It is worth the price of admission to the book. Why would the supporters of “affirmative action” seek to suppress the publication of Sander’s law review article? The real-world results of affirmative belie the related ideology of those who foist it on us. The regime of affirmative action is accordingly enforced through secrecy, silence and political correctness.

h/t Power Line

Del Dolemonte on December 28, 2013 at 3:58 PM

So how do the MSNBC dunderheads decorate at Christmas? I suppose they just put out their Hammer and Sickle flags.

TarheelBen on December 28, 2013 at 4:15 PM

All I can find about Reid’s “academic background” is that she majored in film at Harvard. She doesn’t even have her own wiki page so all evidence of her alleged “intelligence” is pure speculation.
Del Dolemonte on December 28, 2013 at 11:39 AM

A Harvard degree is often pretty much meaningless. With all the affirmative action, grade inflation and political, fluff academic concentrations, a Harvard diploma is often just an expensive piece of paper.

bluegill on December 28, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Hot air confession booth open for bidnezz.

Murphy9 on December 28, 2013 at 11:35 AM

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My apologies for being late my son, but I was temporarily occupied with a another priority.

You may now begin your confession . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

listens2glenn on December 28, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Now, a Christmas purist wouldn’t want to stray from the Bible on Christmas, would she? Everyone celebrates Christmas in their own special way. That could mean being tree-side with the family or even profiting off your [cause?] and commercialism. But if Sarah Palin wants us to believe there’s only one true meaning of Christmas, she can keep on pretending.

Joy Reid, PMS-DNC

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Would you be willing to accept Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, Joy ?

listens2glenn on December 28, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Ed, the topic isn’t “Pretenders” as much as it’s “One More Reason to Make Fun of Sarah Palin and Anyone Who Thinks Like Her.”

MSNBC pretty darned ignorant about Christianity and Scripture

The basic idea is to keep flinging mud at Christians so all the moderate wusses–and gutless RINOs–will continue to keep her (and by extension, us) at arm’s length.

And their strategy works, too. One of the brightest, best-educated young Republicans I know spent a half-hour in my car last week trashing the “inconsistent messaging” of evangelical Christian/Republicans and wishing us out of the party.

He wouldn’t shut up until I threatened to drop him on the side of the road. His wife was welcome to keep on riding (can’t put my little girl out!)

Seems he and his lawyer friends believe everything bad they hear about SP. Unless of course, he was just performing another exercise in debate, which has elevated him to the top of his class.

rwenger43 on December 28, 2013 at 4:38 PM

I’m with ya there…nobody could be as ignorant as this woman.

JetBoy on December 28, 2013 at 12:08 PM

I disagree; we have several trolls here that fit that description quite well.

Midas on December 28, 2013 at 4:44 PM

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