Time to try another delay in the individual mandate?

posted at 10:01 am on December 24, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Well, why not? Republicans tried this a number of times, only to be rebuffed by Democrats who insisted that ObamaCare would be totally awesome. In fact, Nancy Pelosi is still promising a “glorious” result:

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) says December has been a “great month” for Obamacare sign-ups, and she said things will only get better
as more people enroll.

“It’s worth the trouble. It’s going to be a glorious thing,” Pelosi told a conference call on Monday.

“It’s about life, a healthier life, liberty, the freedom to pursue our happiness. It honors the vows of our founders. A person can follow his or her passion and not be chained by a policy, so they could start a business, be self-employed, change jobs. It’s a very, very exciting thing. And it’s about wellness and prevention. It’s about the health of America, not just the health care for Americans.

“So we’re very proud of it, and our enthusiasm for it … strengthens our determination to make sure it works.”

I’d trust Pelosi on this one. After all, she did accurately predict that we wouldn’t find out what was in the bill until it passed, and now Democrats see three years too late what a political disaster it has become.

Well, at least some Democrats see it, like Joe Manchin, who argued Sunday for a one-year moratorium on enforcement of mandates.  That would take a Congressional change to ObamaCare (in most administrations, although arguably not this one), and Byron York argues that the time is ripe for another shot at the delay strategy (via Instapundit):

It’s time to take another vote on the individual mandate. Would those 174 Democrats who stood firmly behind the mandate in July still be there now? Or will the 22 who voted to delay the mandate be joined by more who are worried by what they’ve seen since October?

If House Republicans want to highlight Democratic nervousness about Obamacare, focusing on the individual mandate is a good way to do it.

The coercive, unwanted mandate is by far the most unpopular feature of the law. When the New York Times recently asked, “Do you approve or disapprove of the part in the 2010 health care law requiring nearly all Americans to have health insurance coverage by 2014 or pay a penalty?” a full 68 percent said they disapproved, while just 31 percent approved.

When the Times polled only those Americans without health insurance — the group supposed to benefit most from Obamacare — 77 percent disapproved of the individual mandate, while just 21 percent approved.

So almost nobody likes it. But here’s the thing: The individual mandate is the heart of Obamacare. From the president on down, administration officials believe that without the mandate, the system won’t work. So the one thing the public hates most is the one thing Obamacare can’t do without. For many Democrats, voting against the mandate, even delaying the mandate, is tantamount to repealing Obamacare altogether. They can’t do it, no matter what the voters think.

But is it? Former Medtronic CEO Bill George wonders whether Barack Obama himself has started to retreat from the individual mandate, and ObamaCare itself:

The latest announcement from the White House on Thursday, December 19, seems to indicate that even President Obama is backing away from Obamacare.

At the very least, he is bobbing and weaving like an exhausted prize fighter trying to avoid a knockout punch. For the President, that punch would be a disastrous rollout of Obamacare that leaves Americans so angry that the Democrats lose their five-seat majority in the Senate in 2014. That could happen with the never-ending fallout from the new plans. Not surprisingly, the latest White House retreat just before the December 23rd enrollment deadline was triggered by pressure from moderate Senate Democrats like Mark Warner (D-VA) and Mary Landrieu (D-LA). Landrieu faces a tough 2014 election campaign.

Thursday’s announcement said that six million Americans who have had their insurance plans cancelled are eligible to buy catastrophic policies and are exempt from penalties if they go without insurance in 2014. Not that the new catastrophic plans are cheap. In California the pre-Obamacare median cost for a 25-year old non-smoking male was $92 per month on eHealthInsurance.com. This compares to $205 per month for a bronze plan and $184 per month for a catastrophic plan. Tacitly admitting that for many Americans the cost of buying insurance on the federal exchange exceeds their current insurance cost, Health and Human Services Secretary Katherine Sebelius offered them the opportunity to apply for a “hardship exemption.”

This is the fourth major pullback by the White House from the Affordable Care Act. … All these changes are exposing the flawed premise on which Obamacare is based: that the healthy young are willing to pay much more for insurance in order to support the unhealthy elderly. This policy marks the first time in U.S. history that we are asking the young to pay for the old; historically, it has always been the other way around. Altruism would not have motivated the young to assume this new cost, so the Democrats used the mandate to force the young into the pools–subsidizing care of the elderly at much higher costs to themselves. The mandate eked through the U.S. Supreme Court on a 5-4 decision, thanks to the tortured logic of Chief Justice John Roberts who deemed it wasn’t mandate after all, but rather a tax. All this comes at a time when youth unemployment is still in double digits and many more young people are stuck in low-paying jobs that barely enable them to make ends meet.

The problem for Obama is that younger Americans have begun to figure this out — and they’re not happy.  But the bigger problem for Obama is that there is no Plan B, as York himself reported yesterday. A delay of the enforcement of the mandate will likely mean massive opt-outs, which will destabilize the risk pools and force premiums to skyrocket even further in 2015 in the “death spiral” scenario for insurers — with prices announced just a few weeks before the midterms. For that reason, the White House is likelier to just postpone enforcement all year in incremental steps rather than back a legislative change to the bill.

The opportunity to push the delay strategy again as an I told you so certainly may look enticing for the GOP, but accelerating that death-spiral process when it’s already begun means they will share in the blame for the result. Tinkering with the law in Congress will allow Democrats to later claim — with a small amount of justification — that Republican changes created or at least amplified the catastrophe to come. Republicans should consider that at length before allowing themselves to be drawn into the problem rather than insist on the true solution of repealing the entire mess and starting over from scratch. The better part of valor here is discretion. If Democrats want a delay, let Harry Reid pass it in the Senate first.


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Bah
Ya’ll are going about this the wrong way now….

The way to do it now, is to pass a law in the House and send to Senate, that says enforce Obamacare in its Entirety….
No delays for employers or individuals…
No exemptions, no nothing.

Just enforce as the law requires…..

Then when the Dems say no to enforcing the law…..you can then start calling them the very same names they used back in October on Mike Lee and Ted Cruz.

Make the Dems own this, as they should.

MityMaxx on December 24, 2013 at 10:07 AM

“It’s worth the trouble. It’s going to be a glorious thing,” Pelosi

I swear when I read these quotes I can hear the Soviet Union’s national anthem in the background.

Oil Can on December 24, 2013 at 10:07 AM

I have often wondered if this idiot woman actually believes what she says, or, is she just a habitual and prolific liar?

ultracon on December 24, 2013 at 10:07 AM

COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC:

My daughter and I are currently getting a massive kick out of the NORAD Santa Tracker site. Coolest thing ever.

Apparently Microsoft helped build it. It’s an impressive site.

And it got me thinking: I’ll bet MILLIONS of people are at that site right this minute, and its working PERFECTLY. (By the way, I highly recommend you go there and check out the history of it – it makes me very proud of our military!)

Anyway … I started wondering about traffic to Healthcare.gov versus the Santa Tracker … and how one of them functions fine, and one sucks.

Might be an interesting story there. Just sayin’.

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.

Professor Blather on December 24, 2013 at 10:09 AM

You’ll have to pardon Nancy-poo. She has to defend her “legacy”, she’s got nowhere else to go.

As for “Plan B”…of course there’s a “Plan B”!

BLAME THE REPUBLICANS!

At least 33% (low IQ, low info voters) will believe it!

GarandFan on December 24, 2013 at 10:11 AM

MityMaxx on December 24, 2013 at 10:07 AM

This would require balls, which are banned inside the beltway.

Jeffster on December 24, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Pelosi’s funeral will be a “glorious thing.”

NoPain on December 24, 2013 at 10:18 AM

This policy marks the first time in U.S. history that we are asking the young to pay for the old;

I think Social Security did that first.

Johnnyreb on December 24, 2013 at 10:20 AM

This policy marks the first time in U.S. history that we are asking the young to pay for the old

What the h@all do you call social security?

ChuckTX on December 24, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Stepping aside for a serious moment, here is a site that gives many alternatives to Obamacare, some exempt from the penalty. Here is another one that clearly outlines the exemptions that exist, although it may not be updated for the most recent (folks having policy canceled). As for wife and I, we have settled at Samaritan Ministries.

Just trying to be a bit helpful in case Pajama Boy shows up at your house tomorrow.

hillsoftx on December 24, 2013 at 10:23 AM

NO DELAY

This belongs to the dems and the dems only

Squishy gop better not cave to the lsm pressure to help the dems

cmsinaz on December 24, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Factoid: Airheads, like Bubbles, float to the surface

At a time when ObamaCare popularity has cratered, and the American people want it repealed at all cost..Nancy Pelosi surfaces (for some unknown reason)to say:

““It’s worth the trouble. It’s going to be a glorious thing,” Pelosi told a conference call on Monday.”

More proof that behind those bulging vacuous eyeballs, and taut pasted on smile, there is indeed an empty brain-pan (ie. AIRHEAD).

BigSven on December 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM

And it got me thinking: I’ll bet MILLIONS of people are at that site right this minute, and its working PERFECTLY.

Professor Blather on December 24, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Meh, it has been crashing Firefox all morning when I switch to 2D.

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 10:26 AM

In other news,MERRY CHRISTMAS to all Hot Air followers.

docflash on December 24, 2013 at 10:29 AM

I have often wondered if this idiot woman actually believes what she says, or, is she just a habitual and prolific liar?

ultracon on December 24, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Or option #3, she’s so pumped up on drugs she has no clue what she’s even saying.

Flange on December 24, 2013 at 10:30 AM

“It’s worth the trouble. It’s going to be a glorious thing,”

IMO it really depends on who you are. If you are of the parasite class and find yourself with all sorts of “free” healthcare benefits then, yeah, Obamacare is great because you are the beneficiaries of this massive wealth redistribution scheme.

If, on the other hand, you are a hardworking American who suddenly finds themselves paying exponentially more for health insurance and it is harder to make ends meet because of what you’re spending on healthcare….. not so glorious.

Pelosi and the rat-eared wonder are banking on parasite loyalty to make up for payer outrage.

Happy Nomad on December 24, 2013 at 10:31 AM

That face! I’ll bet if pictures were taken of all female patients in mental institutions none would appear crazier than she does.

50sGuy on December 24, 2013 at 10:31 AM

NotCoach on December 24, 2013 at 10:26 AM

What if that 5-10% is the actual number of total enrollees? What if all others were just window shopping?

txhsmom on December 24, 2013 at 10:31 AM

No, hell no. The Republican leadership should not give the Ds any chance to inoculate their lousy asses on this, including allowing them a chance to vote for a delay of the mandates. They began their suicide when passing this POS, let them twist in the wind.

TXUS on December 24, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Well all you Democrats for it. You own it. And Nancy is proud of that.

If they would have delayed it, like the Republicans wanted,this Bill might have had chance to work correctly.

Oh no, BHO would have messed it up. Idealist mentality does’t work in Goverment.

Sabercat2 on December 24, 2013 at 10:32 AM

It still aint working. Been waiting for the confirmation of identity for 3 days…they say it is done but the computer doesn’t know it. It won’t upload proof (drivers license)…just sits there. Chat NEVER works. I’m computer savvy and buy crap on-line all the time yet cannot on this site.

Dingbat63 on December 24, 2013 at 10:32 AM

What if that 5-10% is the actual number of total enrollees? What if all others were just window shopping?

txhsmom on December 24, 2013 at 10:31 AM

It doesn’t matter. These are the only people willing to spend themselves into bankruptcy.

NotCoach on December 24, 2013 at 10:33 AM

REPORT: ONLY 5-10% OF OBAMACARE ‘ENROLLEES’ HAVE PAID FIRST MONTH’S PREMIUM

NotCoach on December 24, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Not sure how much this means. Does anybody pay bills early?

The numbers as of MLK day will be very interesting, though!

ElectricPhase on December 24, 2013 at 10:33 AM

In other news,MERRY CHRISTMAS to all Hot Air followers.

docflash on December 24, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Unfortunately, Ed and AP left us a huge lump of coal with all the pics of Nancy Pelosi and Obama on the front page. :p

Myron Falwell on December 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM

C’mon, be a sport, Nancy.
Sign up.

TimBuk3 on December 24, 2013 at 10:35 AM

“It’s about life, a healthier life, liberty, the freedom to pursue our happiness. It honors the vows of our founders.

Proof that Botox poisoning leads to dementia.

antipc on December 24, 2013 at 10:35 AM

No, hell no. The Republican leadership should not give the Ds any chance to inoculate their lousy asses on this, including allowing them a chance to vote for a delay of the mandates. They began their suicide when passing this POS, let them twist in the wind.

TXUS on December 24, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Which means it is going to happen. The GOPe hates conservatism and is only focused on retaining power.

Myron Falwell on December 24, 2013 at 10:36 AM

That face! I’ll bet if pictures were taken of all female patients in mental institutions none would appear crazier than she does.

50sGuy on December 24, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Talk about faces? I’m positive that Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is her mother.

Walter L. Newton on December 24, 2013 at 10:39 AM

She’s delusional. I simply cannot read it.

jaywemm on December 24, 2013 at 10:39 AM

“It’s about life, a healthier life, liberty, the freedom to pursue our happiness.

Nothing says freedom like the government forcing its citizens to engage in commerce against their will.

Bishop on December 24, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Not sure how much this means. Does anybody pay bills early?

The numbers as of MLK day will be very interesting, though!

ElectricPhase on December 24, 2013 at 10:33 AM

The bill is due Jan. 1. Much more than 5 to 10% would have their bill paid 1 week before the due date on anything else.

NotCoach on December 24, 2013 at 10:42 AM

moderate Senate Democrats like Mark Warner (D-VA) and Mary Landrieu (D-LA).

“Moderate”, in this case, means “confirmed leftist running in purplish district”.

bofh on December 24, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Or just pull an Obama and have all Rs vote present. Any changes will be solely due to the Democrats. The Rs get to drink Slurpees while vulnerable Ds fight the Pelosi wing.

blammm on December 24, 2013 at 10:43 AM

One has to wonder if Nancy Pelosi could pass a sanity test.

Bet she could not go onto a computer by herself and enroll in ObamaCare.

albill on December 24, 2013 at 10:46 AM

No more delays.

Philly on December 24, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Bet she could not go onto a computer by herself and enroll in ObamaCare.

albill on December 24, 2013 at 10:46 AM

You think the rat-eared wonder is the only one with a staff? Were Pelosi to enroll in this “glorious” health system, it would be some poor staffer who would be doing all the work.

Happy Nomad on December 24, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Nothing says freedom like the government forcing its citizens to engage in commerce against their will.

Bishop on December 24, 2013 at 10:41 AM

John Roberts would agree.

The blowback on his ruling is going to be epic.

Happy Nomad on December 24, 2013 at 10:53 AM

All these changes are exposing the flawed premise on which Obamacare is based: that the healthy young are willing to pay much more for insurance in order to support the unhealthy elderly. This policy marks the first time in U.S. history that we are asking the young to pay for the old; historically, it has always been the other way around.

No. Social Security was the first time the young were forced to pay for the old.

Revenant on December 24, 2013 at 10:54 AM

“It’s worth the trouble. It’s going to be a glorious thing,” Pelosi told a conference call on Monday.

Holy Cow…what a Bimbo….

BigWyo on December 24, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Delay? Where did that strategy come from? The Reince Priebus Playbook for Helping the Other Team Score.

Vera71 on December 24, 2013 at 11:01 AM

In fact, Nancy Pelosi is still promising a “glorious” result:

Obviously, IQ is inversely proportional to the amount of Botox one uses.

txdoc on December 24, 2013 at 11:04 AM

“It’s about life, a healthier life, liberty, the freedom to pursue our happiness. It honors the vows of our founders. A person can follow his or her passion and not be chained by a policy, so they could start a business, be self-employed, change jobs.

This is a keeper for the ages. She keeps using the words freedom and liberty, but it’s clear she doesn’t know what they mean.

tommer74 on December 24, 2013 at 11:05 AM

“It’s going to be a glorious thing.”

Eye-rolling, bat-sh*t crazy beeyotch.

orangemtl on December 24, 2013 at 11:06 AM

I understand the sympathy many have in trying to remove the unconscionable burden Democrats have put upon Americans with this fiasco of a law and it’s commensurately indefensible malmanaged implementation, but the chance to just vote a delay in the individual mandate passed sometime before letters of cancellation started going out.

Does anyone know what the consequences are from a delay in the individual mandate? Anybody? The law is still the law. Regulation of what can be an acceptable policy would still hold wouldn’t it? If the mandate was delayed would the subsidies still be provided? What happens to the insurance companies if the expectations on policy holders and policies held becomes a financial disaster for them?

The problem we are now in is not going to solved by merely deciding to stop in the middle of the river we are crossing. If I am going to support something to get this crap off off our backs, I, at least, want something of an educated guess by people in the know of what needs to be done to minimize what consequences there might be from delaying the individual mandate and including some provisions for handling or minimizing them, too.

And now that I think of it, why should it be only a year? Is a year the best timeframe? I don’t know that a year is not enough for addressing this clusterf#$k. But if it it’s going to be a year, I want it solved by the time the year is up. Time should be spent on nothing else in Congress, until this disaster is rectified.

Dusty on December 24, 2013 at 11:06 AM

cmsinaz on December 24, 2013 at 10:23 AM

I agree. No delay. The donks must take their medicine NOW.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Apropos of nothing but the season, I’m appalled by the direction this country is heading, and by the absolute death-cult the NDP (New Democrat Party) has become. I am, however, sincerely grateful for HA and for other conservative-leaning sites that allow me to interact with (and more often than not,) learn from, fellow like-minded folk.

It’s easy to feel alone and adrift reporting from behind enemy lines (Massachusetts,) so sites like this provide at least a little of that ‘sense of community’ that’s missing when your beliefs are at odds with the majority of your fellow citizens.

Thanks, Merry Christmas, and to steal a Buck Sexton-ism, “Shields High in 2014!”

CaptFlood on December 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM

A Christmans Message for 2013 …

I was feeling pretty blue the other night, and, I gotta admit that after I left the bar I turned toward the river instead of home. And as I was standing at the bridge railing, looking down at the dark, cold, swirling water, a chubby little gray-haired fellow claiming to be an angel appeared at my side. He said that his name was Clarence, and he was wearing an OBAMA 2012 t-shirt over his sweater. He told me, with a twinkle in his eye, that every time someone says “Obamacare” a conservative taxpayer loses his healthcare coverage.
So I punched a few of his teeth down his throat and threw him in the river. And then I went back to the bar and bought a round for the house.

*Merry Christmas*

M240H on December 24, 2013 at 11:10 AM

“It’s about life, a healthier life, liberty, the freedom to pursue our happiness. It honors the vows of our founders.

This woman is mentally ill, there is no doubt about it…

mnjg on December 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Maybe the ObamaCare launch people could have used the folks that did this “Santa Launch”?

http://vimeo.com/82544333

PappyD61 on December 24, 2013 at 11:12 AM

“It’s worth the trouble. It’s going to be a glorious thing,” Pelosi told a conference call on Monday.

My first thought reading the headline was that even a partisan lemming like Pelosi wouldn’t be so ridiculous as to actually say “glorious thing”…but lo…

JetBoy on December 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Oh for Pete’s sake. If this thing is so bad, just REPEAL it and throw it out, and allow the American people to go back to the insurance they had that they obviously liked.

But noooooOOOoooooo….can’t do that…might make Bammy mad, and when he’s mad he stomps his feet and unleashes the media on the GOPe and the Dems up for reelection in 2014, and they cry like little girls and fold like cards.

Sigh. If only there were hundreds more real statesmen in DC, instead of the three or four we have.

theotherone on December 24, 2013 at 11:15 AM

It’s about life, a healthier life, liberty, the freedom to pursue our happiness. It honors the vows of our founders…

What more proof is needed to show the Nancy Pelosi is deranged? Our founders never expected government to take care of them.

sadatoni on December 24, 2013 at 11:15 AM

“Tinkering with the law in Congress will allow Democrats to later claim — with a small amount of justification — that Republican changes created or at least amplified the catastrophe to come. Republicans should consider that at length before allowing themselves to be drawn into the problem rather than insist on the true solution of repealing the entire mess and starting over from scratch. The better part of valor here is discretion. If Democrats want a delay, let Harry Reid pass it in the Senate first.” ~ Ed Morrissey

Truer words can not be spoken, and I totally agree with Ed here. Any participation by the Republican Party to change this law WILL make Republicans complicit in its own demise. Make no mistake, the liberal pundits and their fawning media will put the blame of this disastrous policy squarely on the Republicans backs, (and we all know how pathetic the GOP is when it comes to combating “a message”). Dorothy’s already thrown the water on the witch—let it, (ObamaCare), melt away on the backs of every Democrat that voted for this nightmare.

Rovin on December 24, 2013 at 11:15 AM

There is something seriously wrong with Pelosi, isn’t there?

pat on December 24, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Bah
Ya’ll are going about this the wrong way now….

The way to do it now, is to pass a law in the House and send to Senate, that says enforce Obamacare in its Entirety….
No delays for employers or individuals…
No exemptions, no nothing.

Just enforce as the law requires…..

Then when the Dems say no to enforcing the law…..you can then start calling them the very same names they used back in October on Mike Lee and Ted Cruz.

Make the Dems own this, as they should.

MityMaxx on December 24, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Exactly. Remind them: It’s. The. Law.

We’re not obstructing. We’re not changing the law. We’re for enforcing the law. The law that was passed by both houses of Congress, signed by the president and upheld by the Supreme Court.

Hill60 on December 24, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Y’all quit picking on Botox Pelosi. She said I could quit my job and she would pay for my Healthcare and buy me stuff. I want STUFF

tmgrant on December 24, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Geesh, we should photo shop an elf hat on that mug so we don’t get our holiday confused with Halloween.

Cindy Munford on December 24, 2013 at 11:26 AM

If we can find some liberty loving lawyers to work for free, Insta Glenn doesn’t buy the “no standing” argument.

Cindy Munford on December 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM

The folks have put Obama in office TWICE despite the warnings. They need to feel the pain of their stupidity. The GOP would make a huge mistake by taking this gift off the table in 2014.

PaddyORyan on December 24, 2013 at 11:31 AM

[Rovin on December 24, 2013 at 11:15 AM]

I agree with that to a great degree. My only problem is that there are, and will be over the next year, many many people who will suffer as a result of this disaster of a law. While it would be a pleasure to see Dems roasting over the fires of public opinion and think it’s hell on earth, there are still the people, which Republicans serve, too, (and wish to convince they are worth voting for), who need relief from this disaster of a law.

I don’t know that there is anything acceptable which will serve as relief. There certainly is nothing the Dems and Obama will accept, but I think if something can be fashioned to maximize the relief, it ought to be proposed and debated. I do know for certain, though, that some simple individual mandate delay is unacceptable for me to support. That just saves Dems a$$e$ and does nothing for the people or Republicans.

Dusty on December 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Leave it the He!! alone.

Let.It.Burn

LtGenRob on December 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM

There is something seriously wrong with Pelosi, isn’t there?

pat on December 24, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Understatement of the year.

JetBoy on December 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Pelosi looks bat-sh!t crazy in that pic, just sayin’

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM

“It’s about life, a healthier life, liberty, the freedom to pursue our happiness. It honors the vows of our founders. A person can follow his or her passion and not be chained by a policy, so they could start a business, be self-employed, change jobs. It’s a very, very exciting thing. And it’s about wellness and prevention. It’s about the health of America, not just the health care for Americans.

I read this three times. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind this woman is batsh*t crazy.

DaveDief on December 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Pelosi looks bat-sh!t crazy in that pic, just sayin’

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Actually, Pelosi herself looks like a man date.

Shy Guy on December 24, 2013 at 11:45 AM

“It’s worth the trouble. It’s going to be a glorious thing,” Pelosi

…ANY Repubic-hair that helps this woman…needs to be locked up in a padded room too!

KOOLAID2 on December 24, 2013 at 11:52 AM

“It’s worth the trouble. It’s going to be a glorious thing,”–Pelosi

C’mon America..do you really want this woman to blow smoke up your ass?

Again?

BigSven on December 24, 2013 at 11:52 AM

A delay of the enforcement of the mandate will likely mean massive opt-outs, which will destabilize the risk pools and force premiums to skyrocket even further in 2015 in the “death spiral” scenario for insurers — with prices announced just a few weeks before the midterms.

Which is precisely why I have argued against any delays in the mandate. The GOP was stupid to demand it earlier. The way to kill this thing is to sit back and watch it die. Forget about defunding or repealing or any of the other futile acts which only served as an opportunity to shift blame to the “obstructionists.” The best thing to do is to do nothing!

MJBrutus on December 24, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Dusty on December 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Totally agree. Probably, the best thing would be for the Republicans to have a (ONE) solid written piece of legislation, that not only repeals the whole law, but replaces it. It needs to be posted to a website for all Americans to see, with 99.9% support by ALL Republicans—so Americans can see a united front. We all know that our dear liberals will attack the policy/law, but they can’t stake the claim that we don’t have an alternative, and, at the same time, Republicans can say—”How’s YOUR PLAN working out”.

Rovin on December 24, 2013 at 12:14 PM

This oughta be splashed all over the place

Glorious… indeed.

Key West Reader on December 24, 2013 at 12:15 PM

D’Oh! Black Panthers turning on Obama Man.

Smell the stank of Fail.

Key West Reader on December 24, 2013 at 12:18 PM

MJBrutus on December 24, 2013 at 12:11 PM

The Left will just throw more and more money at it. They aren’t going to let it die. As for “postponing”, it was stupid but it was just an attempt to appear reasonable to people who could never be convinced regardless. Someone has got to fight this flexible law implementation that this president seems to endorse.

Cindy Munford on December 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Comrades the future is going to glorious, GLORIOUS!!!!!!

You know your old health plan that was CANCELED and then you could not even get another plan? Democrats made that happen. Not a single Republican voted for it. In fact Republicans did everything they could to keep it from happening. Remember that when you vote.

jukin3 on December 24, 2013 at 12:25 PM

That pasty faced moron is disgusting.

rplat on December 24, 2013 at 12:36 PM

People speak of repealing the individual mandate like it would be a big deal. It would actually solve very little. We would still have all the cancelled plans. We would still have the new higher priced plans with the smaller provider networks.

Mark1971 on December 24, 2013 at 12:38 PM

People speak of repealing the individual mandate like it would be a big deal. It would actually solve very little. We would still have all the cancelled plans. We would still have the new higher priced plans with the smaller provider networks.

Mark1971 on December 24, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Exactly.

This is why all these “fixes” are worthless. Obama blew up our Health Care System – there is no going back now.

Key West Reader on December 24, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Pelosi thinks it’s a glorious thing that you can quit your day job and join the circus, while “somebody else” pays for your health care. At least it’s something like that. I recall in the past she talked about having the “freedom” to pursue the arts and not worry about health care.

TarheelBen on December 24, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Fly, fly away, national witch…on yer broom…bye…

Schadenfreude on December 24, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Pelosi looks bat-sh!t crazy in that pic, just sayin’
OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Looks can be deceiving. Underneath she is worse.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 1:13 PM

The honey baked ham line is a mile long. I hope B9 appreciates the way I have figured out how to cut in front of other people this holiday season.

The meet shall inherit the earth but I will get their ham.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 1:15 PM

It’s not that I’m cutting in front of anyone. I have just tricked them into cutting in line behind me.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Fly, fly away, national witch…on yer broom…bye…

Schadenfreude on December 24, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Merry Christmas, Schadmeister!

Key West Reader on December 24, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Nah, we tried, and they insisted it was the ‘law of the land’ and told us to f*ck off.

Let them eat it; no more delays, rescind the fiat delays granted by Obama, and make the country eat this damn thing.

Do not HELP the Dems weasel out of what rightly should be a painful reckoning in November.

I say this knowing that the Dems/Obama will continue to do everything they can to avoid that, and the Republicans will do everything they can to help them.

Midas on December 24, 2013 at 1:25 PM

This policy marks the first time in U.S. history that we are asking the young to pay for the old; historically, it has always been the other way around.

Well, you know, except for those massive senior welfare programs known as Social security and Medicare.

Spliff Menendez on December 24, 2013 at 1:30 PM

It’s one thing to delay in order to derail OboobiCare but that train left the station back in October. Any republican that now votes to delay is only trying to keep it while fixing it and they need to be not voted back in. The only acceptable course is to repeal all of it. Anything less is capitulation.

AH_C on December 24, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Already, it’s very clear that millions of Americans — and not just Tea Party types — do not accept the legitimacy of the government to overrule individual decisions, even on something like health insurance. This is not the America of 1932 or of 1964. This is an America steeped in distrust of government. It’s an America that is, on both left and right, steeped in the ethos of individual choice. It’s an America steeped in a morality of authenticity, which says that it is right to listen to the individual voice within and immoral to be forced to conform to the external commands from without.

From the very first moment, people have had problems with the idea of mandates. Barack Obama beat Hillary Clinton among a Democratic primary electorate in 2008 in part because he opposed mandates. When Obamacare was still a bill, members of Congress succumbed to political pressure and lowered the penalties that would be imposed on those who violated the mandates. Then the Supreme Court majority decided the penalties weren’t even penalties; they were just an optional tax.

Most telling, the administration hasn’t even made a moral argument for the mandates. It hasn’t even tried to make the case that coercing some people to participate in collective action is necessary for the common good.

It now seems possible that no one will be paying the mandate penalties in 2014. Having exempted some groups from the mandate already, it will be politically difficult to start enforcing it on others. And, looking further into the future, why should we think Democrats will suddenly crack down and enforce the mandate in the run-up to the next presidential election?


Illegitimate mandates

Schadenfreude on December 24, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Pelosi’s funeral will be a “glorious thing.”

NoPain on December 24, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Way long overdue, but when it does happen a certain song from the Wizard of Oz will come to mind.

HiJack on December 24, 2013 at 1:51 PM

This policy marks the first time in U.S. history that we are asking the young to pay for the old; historically, it has always been the other way around.

Well, you know, except for those massive senior welfare programs known as Social security and Medicare.

Spliff Menendez on December 24, 2013 at 1:30 PM

The difference is that everyone gets old and qualifies for SS and Medicare. The young are told they will eventually need it and will get it(if it remains solvent).

Obamacare is partially means tested because of the subsidies. And not everyone gets sick. So young earners are being asked to pay for something they will never get AND may never need.

kcewa on December 24, 2013 at 1:53 PM

This is why all these “fixes” are worthless. Obama blew up our Health Care System – there is no going back now.

Key West Reader on December 24, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Let’s put the blame where it really lies: on Justice Roberts’ lying head.

HiJack on December 24, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Speaking of mandates…

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/sarahjeanseman/2013/12/24/oklahoma-universities-win-court-suspends-abortion-pill-mandate-n1767896

Stoic Patriot on December 24, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Sandra Fluke hardest hit.

Myron Falwell on December 24, 2013 at 1:59 PM

“It’s about life, a healthier life, liberty, the freedom to pursue our happiness. It honors the vows of our founders. A person can follow his or her passion and not be chained by a policy, so they could start a business, be self-employed, change jobs.

Insane. And,um, actually he or she can’t follow anything or go anywhere. He or she is totally chained to the locality covered by his or her exchange policy. The government exchange insurance plans are deliberately restrictive– with healthcare provided by very small and localized networks of a couple of doctors and a hospital or clinic or two. These tiny little cost-saving networks are NOT nationwide, they are strictly local. Any care provided outside that network, and outside that locality, IS NOT COVERED by an Obamacare exchange policy.

Which means that if he or she wants to travel, spend time in another locale (if he or she have a summer and a winter home, better pick one), or change jobs and move away– he or she had better stay healthy, because that person is no longer covered outside his or her exchange policy’s (local) network.

Obamacare actually restricts freedom– not only of choice, but of where you live and where you travel. We’re being herded.

de rigueur on December 24, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Was she really Miss Lube rack of 1955?

A delay of the enforcement of the mandate will likely mean massive opt-outs

I all practical terms Zero ended the mandate on Friday, when he waved his imperious hand and gave people the “hardship” waiver.

We need to encourage people not to comply with this law in any way, which will burn his azz.

BTW his entire personal FAKE sign up is a nauseating reflection of soviet and nazi era propaganda.

dogsoldier on December 24, 2013 at 3:57 PM

AH_C on December 24, 2013 at 1:34 PM

With each passing day president dumbass makes the case for repeal.

dogsoldier on December 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM

I don’t even know what the ObamaCare Law means anymore. As best I can figure it, the ObamaCare Law gives the President the power to regulate the health insurance business and medical care in general in whatever way seems to be politically advantageous to him and the Democratic Party at the moment.

PackerBronco on December 24, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Mandated delays. All important steps to complete the Federalization of Health Care. All aboard the single-payer train (toot-toot).

trl on December 24, 2013 at 6:27 PM

My sister in law Jackie Sue has spent 50 hours and six weeks trying to sign up on that stoopid ObamaCare website.

Mammy said Jackie told her the site kept crashing, and it kept excluding and throwing out their yung uns information.

She said “It’s been terrible”.

Sucks to be us…..an ObamaCare is just a startin.

PappyD61 on December 24, 2013 at 9:29 PM

This policy marks the first time in U.S. history that we are asking the young to pay for the old; historically, it has always been the other way around.

soc sec and medicare. ok, they never happened! the most wealthy demograhic, those over 65, regardless of income or wealth, receive welfare from the least well off among us. trying to raise kids, buy homes, start a life. reverse robin hood. sickening. and apparently, that bad liberal socialist idea never happened. good thing. if it HAD we’d be going broke…..

t8stlikchkn on December 25, 2013 at 9:34 AM

PackerBronco on December 24, 2013 at 4:22 PM

you DO know what it means. exactly what it was intended to be. congratualtions.

t8stlikchkn on December 25, 2013 at 9:38 AM

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