Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on December 24, 2013 by Allahpundit

The Obama administration said Tuesday that it would provide more time for people to sign up for health insurance if they could show that they missed the Tuesday deadline for applications because of problems with the federal health care website…

“If you weren’t able to enroll in an insurance plan by Dec. 23 because of problems you had using HealthCare.gov, you still may be able to get coverage that starts Jan. 1,” the administration told visitors to the website. “Even though we have passed the Dec. 23 enrollment deadline for coverage starting Jan. 1, we don’t want you to miss out if you’ve been trying to enroll.

“Sometimes despite your best efforts, you might have run into delays caused by heavy traffic to HealthCare.gov, maintenance periods, or other issues with our systems that prevented you from finishing the process on time. If this happened to you, don’t worry — we still may be able to help you get covered as soon as Jan. 1.”

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New York and Massachusetts are following the federal health exchange’s lead and extending their sign-up deadlines for coverage starting Jan. 1, those programs’ directors announced Monday afternoon.

Other state exchanges, including the ones in California, Washington state and the District of Columbia, are offering general flexibility for individuals who started but couldn’t complete their applications by the 11:59 p.m. Monday deadline. Residents there will still be guaranteed coverage starting Jan. 1…

New Yorkers now will have until 11:55 p.m. Christmas Eve to choose a plan, said officials, who described “very high enrollment activity” Monday.

Massachusetts residents have even longer, until New Year’s Eve, to enroll and pay their first premium if they are receiving a federal tax credit. Those choosing Massachusetts Health Connector plans who are not eligible for federal subsidies also benefit from the new Dec. 31 date and have through Jan. 10 to pay their initial premium.

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“The amazing, ever-expanding deadline? It’s clearly a sign of desperation by the administration to do everything they can to increase the number of people signing up,” said health economist Gail Wilensky, who ran Medicare for President George H.W. Bush…

The insurance industry, too, has pushed back deadlines for payment, with most health plans allowing customers to pay by Jan. 10 and still get retroactive coverage to Jan. 1.

“With deadlines that keep changing, insurers want to alleviate confusion,” said Robert Zirkelbach, spokesman for America’s Health Insurance Plans. “Health plans are going to do everything they can to help consumers with the enrollment process.”

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For a law that’s faced automatic Republican resistance from the start, the ball fumbling since Oct. 1 that President Barack Obama has repeatedly acknowledged hasn’t helped.

The president and his aides say every announcement has been the result of being responsive and flexible, trying to make the law work for everyone. But at this point, the administration appears to be demonstrating that it lacks either a full sense of what implementing health care entails, or a full sense of the kind of blowback that each shift in the rules, however small, will generate…

“This latest delay marks the third major change since Secretary Sebelius testified on Dec. 11 when she was asked point blank what changes were in store over the holidays, and she was mum. And yet, another day, another delay,” said Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.), chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee and a frequent critic of the law. “While the holiday surprises have become commonplace, the latest extension is another disappointment for the ‘most transparent administration in history.’ As we celebrate Christmas and prepare to ring in the New Year, we continue to ask, ‘what’s next?’”

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Furman continued: “We’re obviously making — it’s not a Plan B — Plan A is to do the most aggressive enrollment efforts you can, with young people, using social media. You see the insurance companies doing paid advertising. It’s in the insurance companies’ interest to sign these people up.” Beyond relying on a social media campaign, Furman argued, the work done by private business on behalf of Obamacare could be critical. “We’re doing everything we can, but I think unleashing the private sector and the large amounts they’re going to spend on advertising might be even more important,” he said.

Schneider was still curious. “But you have no particular backup plan?”

“There’s a Plan A,” Furman answered. “Which is to enroll as many young healthy people as you possibly can.”

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It now seems possible that no one will be paying the mandate penalties in 2014. Having exempted some groups from the mandate already, it will be politically difficult to start enforcing it on others. And, looking further into the future, why should we think Democrats will suddenly crack down and enforce the mandate in the run-up to the next presidential election?

This part of the law is like an unpopular, insecure person at a family reunion, who is walking on eggshells and making concessions right and left for fear of offending anybody. In the age of the Internet, people are used to decentralized systems and maximum personal choice. The mandated elements of Obamacare may look good on paper and they may be necessary to get the plan to work, but they probably can’t survive the public sense they are illegitimate.

Governing in an age of distrust is different than governing in an age of trust. Government now lacks the legitimacy to impose costs on losers, so politicians face unprecedented pressure to create situations in which everybody looks like winners. Government lacks the legitimacy to coerce. People like Social Security, but I bet you that Congress could not pass a Social Security law today. If people were unfamiliar with the concept, you couldn’t pass a bill that said: Government is going to confiscate money from each paycheck and spend it on other things, but don’t worry because you’ll get it back decades from now when you retire.

The erosion of the mandate won’t kill Obamacare over all. It’ll just make it much more expensive for the government.

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The individual mandate is the heart of Obamacare. From the president on down, administration officials believe that without the mandate, the system won’t work. So the one thing the public hates most is the one thing Obamacare can’t do without. For many Democrats, voting against the mandate, even delaying the mandate, is tantamount to repealing Obamacare altogether. They can’t do it, no matter what the voters think.

That’s a political problem for Democrats and an opportunity for Republicans. In a private exchange not long after the implementation fiasco began, a senior House aide said GOP strategy is to “separate Obama from Congressional Democrats” on the issue of Obamacare. One way to do that is for the GOP to use its control of the House to force Democrats, all of whom face re-election next November, to re-affirm their support of the mandate.

More than 50 Democrats have arrived in the House since March 2010, when Obamacare became law. Fifteen Democrats have come to the Senate since that time. Will their devotion to a law they didn’t pass be as strong as that of more senior Democrats, who fought the original Obamacare battles?…

Republicans held dozens and dozens of votes on Obamacare in years past when the public had little idea what was at stake. Republicans warned that Obamacare would be a disaster, but voters didn’t know what was coming. Now, they do. Maybe it’s time for the House to start voting again.

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Will. Not. Sign. Up.

BigAlSouth on December 24, 2013 at 8:32 PM

Merry Christmas all, and God Bless Us Everyone…

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Stille Nacht…

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 8:37 PM

“While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks by Night”
by Nahum Tate, 1652-1715

1. While shepherds watched their flocks by night,
All seated on the ground,
The angel of the Lord came down,
And glory shone around.
“Fear not,” said he, for mighty dread
Had seized their troubled minds;
“Glad tidings of great joy I bring
To you and all mankind.

2. “To you, in David’s town, this day,
Is born of David’s line
A Savior, who is Christ the Lord;
And this shall be the sign:
The heavenly Babe you there shall find
To human view displayed,
All meanly wrapped in swaddling-clothes
And in a manger laid.”

3. Thus spake the seraph,–and forthwith
Appeared a shining throng
Of angels, praising God, and thus
Addressed their joyful song:
“All glory be to God on high,
And to the earth be peace;
Good will henceforth from Heaven to men
Begin and never cease.”

The Lutheran Hymnal
Hymn #109
Text: Luke 2:11
Author: Nahum Tate, 1700
Composer: Gottfried W. Fink, 1842
Tune: “Bethlehem”

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 8:38 PM

Never forget that this is the WEBSITE, not the program.

It is a piece of paper that says you have coverage.

The coverage may well go like this:

“Take a number to see the doctor. Your number is 217.
Now serving # 6.”

And as Mark Steyn commented, it took 3 years and seven months from the attack on Pearl Harbor, until the defeat of the Imperial Japanese Army. That includes VE day.

It took 3 years and 9 months to roll out a website. And they failed.

Wander on December 24, 2013 at 8:40 PM

WATCH:
******

Christmas Eve Mass at the Vatican with Pope Francis
***************************************************

Pope Francis celebrated his first Christmas Eve Mass in St. Peter’s Basilica

http://www.aleteia.org/en/religion/live/watch-christmas-eve-mass-at-the-vatican-with-pope-francis-5889875618299904

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Too tired to move.
To HA Christian peeps: Merry Christmas!
to HA’s MOTS: Happy ‘I’m-gonna-be-bored-out-of-my-mind-because-everything-is-closed’ day. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Too tired to move.
To HA Christian peeps: Merry Christmas!
to HA’s MOTS: Happy ‘I’m-gonna-be-bored-out-of-my-mind-because-everything-is-closed’ day. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 8:41 PM

ALT: Merry Christmas ALT——————–:0

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Lol,..Banana Republic!!

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 8:43 PM


Oy.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 8:43 PM

Merry Christmas!

trigon on December 24, 2013 at 8:44 PM

To The.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Merry Christmas everybody.

And yes, Die Hard is a Christmas movie, and a fine one at that.

Steve Eggleston on December 24, 2013 at 8:45 PM

World.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 8:46 PM

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Merry Christmas, friend!

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 8:47 PM

Merry chipmunk Christmas to Twerp. Merry beaver Christmas to canopfor.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 8:48 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Merry Christmas darlin’

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Merry racoon Christmas to OC.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Tweets All / No replies

Benjamin Netanyahu ‏@netanyahu 5h

Merry Christmas to all our Christian friends around the world from Jerusalem! http://bit.ly/JbB5W8
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Christmas Greeting – 2013

Published on Dec 24, 2013

Merry Christmas to all our Christian friends around the world from Jerusalem!

This is Jerusalem of gold, now it’s Jerusalem of snow. We celebrate Christmas with you, we know the importance you attach to our common heritage, to the State of Israel and to the city of Jerusalem, where so much of our common history was forged. We have a great past, we have common values, we have the desire to seize a common future of security, prosperity and peace, so from the city of peace, Jerusalem, I extend the warmest Christmas greetings to all of you.

Merry Christmas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrXEzFQzD9s

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 8:49 PM

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 8:50 PM

LOLZ! Merry Christmas, brother…

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Wander on December 24, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Yet the NYT’s can tell where you live with 25 questions. Is my inflection considered metadata?

And the Utah data facility seems to run fine..

*scratches head*

You suppose they are lieing?

wolly4321 on December 24, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Merry speedo Christmas to Ken.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 8:50 PM

A Merry Christmas to my HA friends.

bazil9 on December 24, 2013 at 8:51 PM

I don’t know what to think about Christmas since somebody told me this morning I was going to hell for my beliefs…bummer.

That ain’t gonna’ keep from sharing this, again.

Shame on HA for not doing this already.

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Merry flan Christmas to B9.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 8:51 PM

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Speaking of Chimpmunks…

Stick your head in a trap, Alvin!

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Deadline -ha ha ha that’s a good one

On a serious side merry Christmas to all -I’ve enjoyed reading all the comments over the past year

jaywemm on December 24, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Merry chipmunk Christmas to Twerp. Merry beaver Christmas to canopfor.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 8:48 PM

SparkPlug:And to you as well Sparky, ya know my stupid beavers
hit the egg nog, and passed out, chewing trees!(sarc):)

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 8:52 PM

xo Spark.

bazil9 on December 24, 2013 at 8:52 PM

OC- thanks for the uplifting posts..

Many blessings to you.

wolly4321 on December 24, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Merry Christmas alt.
Merry Christmas all … may GOD bless us everyone ….

conservative tarheel on December 24, 2013 at 8:53 PM

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Who told you that you were Hades-bound? I’ll bite them.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 8:54 PM

wolly4321 on December 24, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Blessings of the Christ-Child to you as well!

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Merry pantsless Christmas to cozmo.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Merry chipmunk Christmas to Twerp. Merry beaver Christmas to canopfor.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 8:48 PM

You need to be more inclusive!

whatcat on December 24, 2013 at 8:55 PM

OC:
You’re one of the nicest people here.
Really.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Pacific Harp Ensemble – Angels We Have Heard on High

INC on December 24, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Merry Christmas:0

Alt
B9
OC
Sparky
Steve Eggleston
trigon
cozmo
wolly4321

and apologies to who I might of missed!)

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Hi INC. (:

Thanks for the good postings of 2013.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 8:57 PM

How Lovely Shines The Morning Star

“How Lovely Shines the Morning Star”
by Philipp Nicolai, 1556-1608

1. How lovely shines the Morning Star!
The nations see and hail afar
The light in Judah shining.
Thou David’s Son of Jacob’s race,
My Bridegroom and my King of Grace,
For Thee my heart is pining.
Lowly, Holy,
Great and glorious, Thou victorious
Prince of graces,
Filling all the heavenly places.

2. O highest joy by mortals won,
True Son of God and Mary’s Son,
Thou high-born King of ages!
Thou art my heart’s most beauteous Flower,
And Thy blest Gospel’s saving power
My raptured soul engages.
Thou mine, I Thine;
Sing hosanna! Heavenly manna
Tasting, eating,
Whilst Thy love in songs repeating.

3. Now richly to my waiting heart,
O Thou, my God, deign to impart
The grace of love undying.
In Thy blest body let me be,
E’en as the branch is in the tree,
Thy life my life supplying.
Sighing, Crying.
For the savor Of Thy favor;
Resting never,
Till I rest in Thee forever.

4. A pledge of peace from God I see
When Thy pure eyes are turned to me
To show me Thy good pleasure.
Jesus, Thy Spirit and Thy Word,
Thy body and Thy blood, afford
My soul its dearest treasure.
Keep me Kindly
In Thy favor, O my Savior!
Thou wilt cheer me;
Thy Word calls me to draw near Thee.

5. Thou, mighty Father, in Thy Son
Didst love me ere Thou hadst begun
This ancient world’s foundation.
Thy Son hath made a friend of me,
And when in spirit Him I see,
I joy in tribulation.
What bliss Is this!
He that liveth To me giveth
Life forever;
Nothing me from Him can sever.

6. Lift up the voice and strike the string.
Let all glad sounds of music ring
In God’s high praises blended.
Christ will be with me all the way,
Today, tomorrow, every day,
Till traveling days be ended.
Sing out, Ring out
Triumph glorious, O victorious,
Chosen nation;
Praise the God of your salvation.

7. Oh, joy to know that Thou, my Friend,
Art Lord, Beginning without end,
The First and Last, Eternal!
And Thou at length–O glorious grace!–
Wilt take me to that holy place,
The home of joys supernal.
Amen, Amen!

Hymn #343
The Lutheran Hymnal
Text: Rev. 22:16
Author: Philipp Nicolai, 1597
Translated by: composite
Titled: “Wie schoen leuchtet der Morgenstern”
Composer: Philipp Nicolai, 1599
Tune: “Wie schoen leuchtet”

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Hey, Sparky! Ditto to thee!

INC on December 24, 2013 at 8:58 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 8:55 PM

That is high praise coming from you. You just made my Christmas darlin’

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Merry Pebble Christmas to Schad.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Merry Christmas to all my HotGasian mind buddies who help me construct my conservative view of the world.

/I’m not a mind-numbed robot but my thought can be derivative. It happens.

Paul-Cincy on December 24, 2013 at 9:00 PM

“Lo, How A Rose E’er Blooming”

I love this self-recorded group of college guys singing this song a cappella outside in the cold.

INC on December 24, 2013 at 9:00 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Some meanie who does not care for those who don’t bow to structured religious doctrine.

Don’t bite them, this is a time to consume sweets, not bitters.

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Merry smilies Christmas to Dire. And Dave…

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Merry Zima Christmas to merm.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Scuttlebutt has it that the reason staff had to go down to CMS to personally sign up Obama was because when they attempted to do it via the Internet they received both a notice that the SSN# was invalid and a caution that only citizens, permanent residents, and their dependents, were eligible to apply for insurance under this program.

Dusty on December 24, 2013 at 9:02 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 8:55 PM

That is high praise coming from you. You just made my Christmas darlin’

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 8:58 PM

OmahaConservative: Agreed:)

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Oh Hanukkah bush
Oh Hanukkah bush
How lovely are your branches.
What?

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Well,…I gots bad news,..Christmas Eve to boot:

Eliot Spitzer
49m
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Former New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer and his wife announce that they are ending their marriage – @AP
read more on online.wsj.com
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canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 9:03 PM

From Heaven Above to Earth I Come

“From Heaven Above to Earth I Come”
by Martin Luther, 1483-1546

1. “From heaven above to earth I come
To bear good news to every home;
Glad tidings of great joy I bring,
Whereof I now will say and sing:

2. “To you this night is born a child
Of Mary, chosen virgin mild;
This little child, of lowly birth,
Shall be the joy of all the earth.

3. “This is the Christ, our God and Lord,
Who in all need shall aid afford;
He will Himself your Savior be
From all your sins to set you free.

4. “He will on you the gifts bestow
Prepared by God for all below,
That in His kingdom, bright and fair,
You may with us His glory share.

5. “These are the tokens ye shall mark:
The swaddling-clothes and manger dark;
There ye shall find the Infant laid
By whom the heavens and earth were made.”

6. Now let us all with gladsome cheer
Go with the shepherds and draw near
To see the precious gift of God,
Who hath His own dear Son bestowed.

7. Give heed, my heart, lift up thine eyes!
What is it in yon manger lies?
Who is this child, so young and fair?
The blessed Christ-child lieth there.
8. Welcome to earth, Thou noble Guest,
Through whom the sinful world is blest!
Thou com’st to share my misery;
What thanks shall I return to Thee?

9. Ah, Lord, who hast created all,
How weak art Thou, how poor and small,
That Thou dost choose Thine infant bed
Where humble cattle lately fed!

10. Were earth a thousand times as fair,
Beset with gold and jewels rare,
It yet were far too poor to be
A narrow cradle, Lord, for Thee.

11. For velvets soft and silken stuff
Thou hast but hay and straw so rough,
Whereon Thou, King, so rich and great,
As ’twere Thy heaven, art throned in state.

12. And thus, dear Lord, it pleaseth Thee
To make this truth quite plain to me,
That all the world’s wealth, honor, might,
Are naught and worthless in Thy sight.

13. Ah, dearest Jesus, holy Child,
Make Thee a bed, soft, undefiled,
Within my heart, that it may be
A quiet chamber kept for Thee.

14. My heart for very joy doth leap,
My lips no more can silence keep;
I, too, must sing with joyful tongue
That sweetest ancient cradle-song:

15. Glory to God in highest heaven,
Who unto us His Son hath given!
While angels sing with pious mirth
A glad new year to all the earth.

The Lutheran Hymnal
Hymn #85
Text: Luke 2: 1-18
Author: Martin Luther, 1535
Tune: Vom Himmel hoch, da komm’ ich her
Translated by: Catherine Winkworth, 1855, alt.
1st published in: “Geistliche Lieder” Leipzig, 1539

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Oh Hanukkah bush
Oh Hanukkah bush
How lovely are your branches.
What?

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 9:02 PM

ALT: Say whats,..lol:)

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 9:04 PM

For Unto Us A Child Is Born

Messiah: Libretto: Old and New Testament Passages selected by Charles Jennens
Oratorio: George Frideric Handel
Antony Walker conducting the Orchestra of the Antipodes and Cantillation.

Their performance of Messiah is wonderful.

INC on December 24, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Really people?

Get in the spirit.

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Don’t let spending time with your family on Christmas interfere with your quality internet commenting time.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Francis I

Christmas
3h
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Photo: Pope Francis marks Christmas amid celebrations around the world – @AFP
see original on twitter.com

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/415607725741993984/photo/1/large
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Christmas
4h
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Pope Francis in Christmas Eve mass message: ‘On the part of the people there are times of both light and darkness, fidelity and infidelity, obedience, and rebellion; times of being a pilgrim people and times of being a people adrift’ – @Reuters

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/francis-i/

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/christmas/

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Loved that, We need to take our Country back. merry Christmas…

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 9:08 PM

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 9:04 PM

When I was a teenager, I really wanted a Christmas tree.
My parents said no way.
I told them it was really just a Hanukkah Bush-and totally Jewish in nature.
Turned out that my parents had tried that line of reasoning w/ THEIR parents…to the same end. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Four years ago today:
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/12/24/this-day-in-health-care-history/

onlineanalyst on December 24, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Loved that…

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Love it heck. Who can say they remember it?

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 9:10 PM

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM

I’m Jewish and Husband/Spawn don’t want to go to church.
All 3 of us are looking forward to sleeping in tomorrow.
I’ll be making homemade chocolate chip-pecan waffles for breakfast.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Stale fruit cake makes a good door stop.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Don’t let spending time with your family on Christmas interfere with your quality internet commenting time.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM

:)

My daughter is sick. I’m trying not to get sick. My husband just finished putting Christmas lights out in the yard. At one point we thought we were going to have a Calvin Christmas. You know the comic when Calvin’s dad tells him they’re going to leave the Christmas tree in the garage!

http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2009/02/01

The tree, however, is now in the house with lights, star, and garland.

INC on December 24, 2013 at 9:11 PM

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 9:10 PM

I remember…

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Stale fruit cake makes a good door stop.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:11 PM

I’ve had one homemade fruit cake in my life that was really good, and that I really liked.

INC on December 24, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Oh Hanukkah bush
annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Doesn’t need candles, it’s already burning!

whatcat on December 24, 2013 at 9:14 PM

don’t let spending time with your family on Christmas interfere with your quality internet commenting time. SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM

It’s okay if you don’t have one, though. Right?

wolly4321 on December 24, 2013 at 9:14 PM

read more on online.wsj.com
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canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Let’s not and say we did.

Lanceman on December 24, 2013 at 9:14 PM

My family passed around the same fruit cake for years. I finally soaked it in Maker’s Mark and lit it on fire one year. We smothered and ate it while drinking the rest of the bottle…

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Wife and daughter are turning her favorite old jacket into a teddy bear. Bonding time over the sewing machine.

I am designing futuristic cargo containers in 1/2500 scale (22 mm long). Up to 32 parts per container, probably another dozen or so parts before I am done. Then I can mold the thing and turn them out in bunches.

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 9:16 PM

Really people?

Get in the spirit.

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 9:06 PM

cozmo:Veddy nice:)
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The Associated Press ‏@AP 12h

Astronauts make rare Christmas Eve spacewalk to finish repairs to space station cooling system: http://apne.ws/1gU6ESC

https://twitter.com/AP

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 9:17 PM

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Let’s not and say we did.

Lanceman on December 24, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Lanceman:Lol,..hey the NEWS doesn’t take holidays!!
(partial sarc):)

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:11 PM

I’ve had one homemade fruit cake in my life that was really good, and that I really liked.

INC on December 24, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Yummy. If you dunk it in dunkin doughnuts coffee its pretty good. Except those green gummy things. What are those anyway?

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM

I think they’re candied cherries. They dye some green. I love cherries, but never liked those too much.

INC on December 24, 2013 at 9:19 PM

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 9:16 PM

Do you vacuum mold thermoplastic? Or is it mold injection?

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:19 PM

O Holy Night.

My favorite. This one by Nat King Cole who graced our stereo with a couple of his Christmas albums when I was a kid. He had a great voice and he never mumbled through the lyrics like almost all do nowadays.

Dusty on December 24, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Except those green gummy things. What are those anyway?

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM

It’s better that you don’t know.

whatcat on December 24, 2013 at 9:22 PM

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM

It’s better that you don’t know.

whatcat on December 24, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Will ObamaCare will cover us if we eat one of them by mistake?

BTW, I’m not signing up ever.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Official NORAD Santa Tracker

Santa is on twitter: https://twitter.com/noradsanta

INC on December 24, 2013 at 9:24 PM

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 9:04 PM

When I was a teenager, I really wanted a Christmas tree.
My parents said no way.
I told them it was really just a Hanukkah Bush-and totally Jewish in nature.
Turned out that my parents had tried that line of reasoning w/ THEIR parents…to the same end. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2013 at 9:09 PM

ALT: Traditions eh:0

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 9:25 PM

“Savior of the Nations, Come”
“Savior of the Nations, Come”
by Martin Luther, 1483-1546

1. Savior of the nations, come,
Virgin’s Son, make here Thy home!
Marvel now, O heaven and earth,
That the Lord chose such a birth.

2. Not by human flesh and blood,
By the Spirit of our God,
Was the Word of God made flesh–
Woman’s Offspring, pure and fresh.

3. Wondrous birth! O wondrous Child
Of the Virgin undefiled!
Though by all the world disowned,
Still to be in heaven enthroned.

4. From the Father forth He came
And returneth to the same,
Captive leading death and hell–
High the song of triumph swell!

5. Thou, the Father’s only Son,
Hast o’er sin the victory won.
Boundless shall Thy kingdom be;
When shall we its glories see?

6. Brightly doth Thy manger shine,
Glorious is its light divine.
Let not sin o’ercloud this light;
Ever be our faith thus bright.

7. Praise to God the Father sing,
Praise to God the Son, our King,
Praise to God the Spirit be
Ever and eternally.

The Lutheran Hymnal
Hymn # 95
Text: John 1: 14
Author: St. Ambrose, +397
German version translated by Martin Luther, 1524
Translated by: William M. Reynolds, 1860, alt.
Titled: Veni, Redemptor gentium
Tune: Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland
1st Published in: Geistliches Gesangbuchlein
Town: Wittenberg, 1524, ad.

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2013 at 9:25 PM

COMPLICATED: White House Admits Obama Couldn’t Use Website To Sign Up…

Rejoice. ObamaCare is the failure that keeps on failing.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:25 PM

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:19 PM

I do some vacuum forming but mostly urethane resins poured into silicone molds.

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 9:26 PM

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 9:26 PM

way cool. How long to cure?

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:27 PM

The erosion of the mandate won’t kill Obamacare over all. It’ll just make it much more expensive for the government.

The government IS us you fu**ing idiot.

Tim Zank on December 24, 2013 at 9:28 PM

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!

Santa knows if you have been naughty or nice ;)

I hope each and evryone of you have a splendid merry happy blessed day tomorrow!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BtgBNrymcY

God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen; Tabernacle Choir

God Bless You all!!

Scrumpy on December 24, 2013 at 9:28 PM

This is a great story that you’ll enjoy if you’re unfamiliar with why NORAD started tracking Santa.

Behind the scenes: NORAD’s Santa tracker

Col. Shoup became the “Santa Colonel.”

INC on December 24, 2013 at 9:30 PM

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:24 PM

No health plan covers eating those little green gummy things in fruitcakes. A year in ICU is just way too expensive.

whatcat on December 24, 2013 at 9:30 PM

way cool. How long to cure?

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:27 PM

?

The silicone molds, I use 6 hour cure silicone. New stuff i discovered a few months ago. It is great!

The resin is 7 minute pot life with 30 minute demold time. Most of my casts are so small I usually double the length of the demold time even when pressurized.

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 9:31 PM

I do some vacuum forming but mostly urethane resins poured into silicone molds.

cozmo on December 24, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Ain’ nothin’ better’n sillycone.

Lanceman on December 24, 2013 at 9:31 PM

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Jue say merry Christmas to Scrumpy?

Lanceman on December 24, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Official NORAD Santa Tracker

Santa is on twitter: https://twitter.com/noradsanta

INC on December 24, 2013 at 9:24 PM

INC:Just noticed Stanley Falkland Islands at the 1m mark,
and I watched The Iron lady 2011, last night, and boyo
I wasn’t to pleased, as they focused, maily, on her losing
her mind!:)
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The Iron lady 2011 Movie
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtRX2ERnTA8

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 9:32 PM

2014. The year ObamaCare melts down all the way to china.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Christmas Eve Pardons:

California, US
2m
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California Gov. Jerry Brown issues 127 pardons, mostly to people convicted of drug dealing, cultivation or possession – @nbcbayarea
read more on nbcbayarea.com
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http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/california/California-Gov-Brown-Pardons-Mostly-Target-Drug-Offenders-237205331.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_BAYBrand

canopfor on December 24, 2013 at 9:33 PM

J knew Scrumpy would show up.

Merry Christmas.

wolly4321 on December 24, 2013 at 9:35 PM

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Jue say merry Christmas to Scrumpy?

Lanceman on December 24, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Merry Kerfuffle Christmas to Scrumpy. From me and Lanceman with love (:

ps: Me and Lanceman love Scrumpy not each other.

SparkPlug on December 24, 2013 at 9:36 PM

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