Merry Christmas, insurers: HHS secretly extends ObamaCare enrollment until midnight tomorrow

posted at 1:01 pm on December 23, 2013 by Allahpundit

Try to see it from the White House’s perspective. They took an unholy beating in the media last week for dropping a new package of panicky “fixes” on the public with just days to go before the enrollment deadline. Faced with that hostility, how should a smart, adaptive PR team handle a new “fix” that pushes the deadline back again? Right: Simply … don’t announce it at all. There’s someone out there who’ll be sitting in front of his computer tomorrow, bummed that he spaced on today’s deadline, who’ll try signing up at Healthcare.gov on a lark in hopes of getting his coverage in place for January 1st anyway. And lo and behold, to his surprise, it’ll work! It’s a Christmas (Eve) miracle, courtesy of Sebelius Claus, even though enrollment is supposed to end at midnight tonight (and was initially supposed to end on December 15th). And no one in the mean ol’ media is the wiser. Until now.

The new deadline, by the way: Literally one minute before Christmas. If you work for an insurance company and you’re facing a 16-hour shift on Wednesday while your family’s home celebrating, just remember — this is what your boss gets for betting that Barack Obama could reinvent the industry, Hopenchange-style.

One individual familiar with the unannounced extension said that it is, in part, intended as a buffer in case the Web site has trouble if a last-minute surge of insurance-seekers proved more than the computer system could handle.

According to the two individuals, both of whom spoke on condition of anonymity about a matter that is not public, the one-day extension is automatic, built into the computer software, and cannot be overridden by individual insurers if they object

On Monday morning, one insurance industry official, informed by The Washington Post about the quiet deadline extension, said that it “creates further challenges to get people enrolled and get their coverage start in January.” The official asked not to be identified because the change hasn’t been made public.

Remember that bit about insurers not being able to override HHS’s fix. Lefties grumble whenever conservatives call this a government takeover of health care, but with every new half-assed, nakedly political HHS-mandated “fix,” that term becomes more accurate. I wonder, in fact, if HHS even gave the industry a heads up before deciding that they had no choice but to process applications filed at 11:55 p.m. on Christmas Eve. It’s possible. I remember more than one news story in November claiming that insurers were blind-sided by Obama’s ass-covering “okay, let’s go ahead and un-cancel some canceled plans” announcement. But that’s life now that the industry works for the government. When the CEO tells you you’re working Christmas Eve, you’re working Christmas Eve.

One silver lining for the White House, though: Per this same WaPo piece, they’ve now had nearly 900,000 people sign up through Healthcare.gov alone. As of November 30th, that number was somewhere around 127,000 or so. Predictably, sign-ups really did skyrocket in December with the deadline bearing down and the website now stable enough to handle many of them, if not quite all. Then again, who knows what “sign-ups” means at this point? Are these people whose 834 information was successfully relayed to their new insurer and who’ve paid their first month’s premium? Or are these people who placed a plan in their virtual shopping cart but didn’t purchase it; or who did purchase a plan but had their 834 converted into gibberish; or who signed up successfully but forgot that nonpayment means no coverage on January 1st even if you did everything else right? I’ll leave you with this from Pro Publica’s Charles Ornstein, published just four short days ago. Good luck, America:

I’ve heard from a number of consumers this week saying that they had not yet received invoices from their insurance companies, and so they have been unable to pay their first month’s premiums. Along the same lines, at a forum for health journalists last week, an official from the Community Service Society of New York said that she was told that three prominent insurance companies were only beginning to send out invoices to their enrollees.


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Golfing first

Schadenfreude on December 23, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Your Kind spake, again…er, his pen did.

Goebbels parties in his grave, again.

Schadenfreude on December 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Kind = King

Schadenfreude on December 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM

spare me the sign up crap, how many of those people will keep up payments let alone make the first one.

rob verdi on December 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Or are these people who placed a plan in their virtual shopping cart but didn’t purchase it

This. I just don’t believe a number of one million, the website still basically does not work. There was a PR push to declare it fixed several days, but everything I’ve been reading indicates it doesn’t actually actually work.

Doomberg on December 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Your Kind spake, again…er, his pen did.

Goebbels parties in his grave, again.

Schadenfreude on December 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Kind = King

Schadenfreude on December 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Kind works if speaking to liberals.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 23, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Anarchists

forest on December 23, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Sheer panic.

Chuck Schick on December 23, 2013 at 1:10 PM

I hope that all the ins. and med. device companies, and doctors, who stood with obama go broke. None deserve any more.

NO bailouts either, no matter what obama’care’ says.

If obama can play King, you can too.

Do NOT comply.

If he doesn’t respect the laws you don’t either.

Schadenfreude on December 23, 2013 at 1:10 PM

here’s someone out there who’ll be sitting in front of his computer tomorrow, bummed that he spaced on today’s deadline, who’ll try signing up at Healthcare.gov on a lark in hopes of getting his coverage in place for January 1st anyway. And lo and behold, to his surprise, it’ll work! he’ll get 404′d on the last submit click.

Dusty on December 23, 2013 at 1:10 PM

There’s someone out there who’ll be sitting in front of his computer tomorrow, bummed that he spaced on today’s deadline, who’ll try signing up at Healthcare.gov on a lark in hopes of getting his coverage in place for January 1st anyway. And lo and behold, to his surprise, it’ll work!

Isn’t the rat-eared wonder himself supposed to sign up for his legislative namesake? He’s so lazy and shiftless, I wouldn’t put it past him to forget to sign himself, the Yeti, and their brats up for Obamacare before the deadline.

Deadline- boy does that word take on new meaning under this administration.

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM

This is better than Jingle All The Way, starring Ahnold, Sinbad, and Phil Hartman.

Christien on December 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Kind works if speaking to liberals leftist thugs.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 23, 2013 at 1:09 PM

They are Never liberal/progressive.

Please, all sane people, stop calling them that.

We are the true liberals.

They are fascist socialist thugs.

Schadenfreude on December 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM

According to the two individuals, both of whom spoke on condition of anonymity about a matter that is not public

The wall of silence begins to crack as panic sets in.

kcewa on December 23, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Sebelius Claus!
Nice Allah

I foresee extensions to new years eve

cmsinaz on December 23, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Wow, we get another 24 hours to sign up for this pile of garbage. …and people say there is no Santa. Thank you ‘Bama Claus!!!

mpthompson on December 23, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Nurse Ratched = perfect for Sebelius

Schadenfreude on December 23, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Drudge is superb with his pictures and captions

Schadenfreude on December 23, 2013 at 1:14 PM

And lo and behold, to his surprise, it’ll work! he’ll get 404′d on the last submit click.

Dusty on December 23, 2013 at 1:10 PM

The boys in the stolen ID trade have the submit button fixed.

kcewa on December 23, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Schadenfreude on December 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Pen? Heavens no! Obama puts on his fairy wings and waves his magic wand over a copy of Obamacare and what he wills comes true. And if we want Obamacare to live, we all need to believe just like Obama, Nancy, Harry and all the other Democrats responsible for Obamacare.

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Why do people need to make a separate payment upon receipt of an invoice? On a real web site, I choose what I want, pay for it then and get the product shipped to me or I am enrolled for a service immediately.

Is this too easy for the geniuses in D.C.?

FOWG1 on December 23, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Maybe Obama needed the extra 24 hours to sign himself up?

Walter L. Newton on December 23, 2013 at 1:16 PM

So absolutely awesome they have to keep extending the date for enrollment…

hillsoftx on December 23, 2013 at 1:17 PM

So 6 million young healthy elves will sign up by Xmas day?

Dreams of My Father Suckers Galore, right Barry?

profitsbeard on December 23, 2013 at 1:18 PM

he boys in the stolen ID trade have the submit button fixed.

[kcewa on December 23, 2013 at 1:15 PM]

LMAO. Nice one.

Dusty on December 23, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Proud to be a scofflaw.

Warner Todd Huston on December 23, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Why do people need to make a separate payment upon receipt of an invoice? On a real web site, I choose what I want, pay for it then and get the product shipped to me or I am enrolled for a service immediately.

Is this too easy for the geniuses in D.C.?

FOWG1 on December 23, 2013 at 1:16 PM

You must be confused. Obama told us that signing up for Obamacare would be just like buying something from Amazon. He wouldn’t lie to us would he?

Seriously though, do you really want to provide your credit card/ bank account information to these people?

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Maybe Obama needed the extra 24 hours to sign himself up?

Walter L. Newton on December 23, 2013 at 1:16 PM

No, he knows it is game over til the end of the month in terms of enrollments. People have real lives and are not going to be spending countless hours messing with Obamacare glitches. The real question at this point is how many people are going to find themselves without coverage come January 1st because of all these delays in the deadline. Sebelius hinted that insurers are just going to ignore the law and let everybody go to their usual doctors and wait to be reimbursed. We’ll see if that really happens.

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2013 at 1:24 PM

When did we pass the Enabling Act granting Chancellor Adolf Obama legislative authority as well as executive authority?

NotCoach on December 23, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Kick him while he is down!

No! Wait! Just in from Republican National HQ:

Help him pass a comprehensive immigration bill early next year!

Stepan on December 23, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Reuters, shilling, as usual. May they all die in his azz.

Schadenfreude on December 23, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Proud to be a scofflaw.

Warner Todd Huston on December 23, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Even if somebody were to put on a bright red onesie and talk to you about the importance of health insurance over a cup of hot chocolate?

Nobody is madder than Obama but that doesn’t mean we can let Obamacare die! /

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Years ago when I was in sales any customer that said they would mail in a check had about a 50% probability of doing it. If they provided their banking info for a debit then it was about 90%.

Wigglesworth on December 23, 2013 at 1:27 PM

How many signed up, placed the item in the cart, paid for it, got a receipt for everything, saw their bank account deducted, and then will try and use it for the first time only to be told that their account does not exist, or worse be told that their account has already been used in a state somewhere on the other side of the nation from their location.

Bishop on December 23, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Years ago when I was in sales any customer that said they would mail in a check had about a 50% probability of doing it. If they provided their banking info for a debit then it was about 90%.

Wigglesworth on December 23, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Yeah, but I’m guessing you didn’t count the stuff in their carts but unpaid for as a sale either. It may just be me but I have a hunch that Mr. Obama isn’t being entirely truthful with the enrollment numbers.

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Half-assed. LOL

Mr. Arrogant on December 23, 2013 at 1:31 PM

How many signed up, placed the item in the cart, paid for it, got a receipt for everything, saw their bank account deducted, and then will try and use it for the first time only to be told that their account does not exist, or worse be told that their account has already been used in a state somewhere on the other side of the nation from their location.

Bishop on December 23, 2013 at 1:28 PM

The administration will just use the supersmart approach to delivering healthcare that they did to enrolling people in Obamacare health insurance. They’ll admit that there have been some glitches in healthcare delivery due to high demand and that there are navigators standing by to help with diagnosis even as they work to improve the healthcare delivery experience.

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Sebelius Claus!
Nice Allah

I foresee extensions to new years eve

cmsinaz on December 23, 2013 at 1:12 PM

I foresee extensions through the day after the presidential elections in 2016.

catsandbooks on December 23, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Obama decrees it, and so it shall be.

midgeorgian on December 23, 2013 at 1:34 PM

O/T The old commie Kalashnikov of ak47 fame bit the dust today.

celtic warrior on December 23, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Nurse Ratched = perfect for Sebelius

Schadenfreude on December 23, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Gotta disagree-

Ratched was -in her aims- competent, if not compassionate, and she achieved her agenda.

M240H on December 23, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Will they throw in a free set of steak knives?

ElectricPhase on December 23, 2013 at 1:45 PM

If you work for an insurance company and you’re facing a 16-hour shift on Wednesday

Ebenezer Hussein Scrooge makes people work on Christmas.

Kafir on December 23, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Oh, yeah! That is really going to work. Too bad Obama can’t stop time from marching on. Absolutely nothing is going to make this work. Pray for everyone that truly needs health care in the next few years.

BetseyRoss on December 23, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Never fear! As a Christmas Gift to the Nation, King Barack the Magnificent will wave his magic tongue and ALL healthcare will now be FREE! to everyone!

And it won’t costs taxpayers a dime!

You betcha!

GarandFan on December 23, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Ebenezer Hussein Scrooge makes people work on Christmas.

Kafir on December 23, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Only Christians would worry about people being able to have Christmas off. That excludes the cult of Obama whose only recognized holidays are May 1st and dear leader’s birthday.

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2013 at 1:55 PM

One silver lining for the White House, though: Per this same WaPo piece, they’ve now had nearly 900,000 people sign up through Healthcare.gov alone. As of November 30th, that number was somewhere around 127,000 or so.

Prediction:

Much of this “sign up flood” is along the following lines:

Chad Henderson
Chad A Henderson
Chad B Henderson
Chadwick Henderson
Chad Hednerson
Doodad Pro
Filler Info
CA Henderson III
Chuck Henderson

BKennedy on December 23, 2013 at 1:56 PM

These deadlines are very similar to Obama’s red lines. They come and they go,and they change. The only thing that we can count on is that Obama will change laws and anything else he has to just to make himself look good.

I still don’t understand how people are signing up and paying if the back end of the healthcare website is not built yet?

tommer74 on December 23, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Affordable Care Act: Another lie, Another miss direction. With smoke and mirrors.

It is a tax credit used to offset the cost of premiums.

1. It is a tax credit applied to your end of year tax obligation .
2. You must have owed some taxes to have the credit applied.
3. If low income you will NOT have sufficient tax obligation to get the full tax credit.
4. You will receive only a smaller portion of the potential tax credit.
5. You still have to pay the FULL amount for the premiums up front.
6. You only get the credit if any after you file your taxes.

Wait until January when people find out this one.

jpcpt03 on December 23, 2013 at 1:59 PM

The new deadline, by the way: Literally one minute before Christmas.

I’m sure it’s already been said.. but how freaking IRONIC is this? Same day they passed it, in the middle of the night, Christmas Eve, 2009.

Bastiges

Key West Reader on December 23, 2013 at 1:59 PM

spare me the sign up crap, how many of those people will keep up payments let alone make the first one.

rob verdi on December 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM

I posted on another thread… spoke with a slip and fall claimant this morning, unemployed, not medicaid eligible (she says because she is white, not pregnant and has no chirrens) so she signed up for ObamaCare and got her first monthly bill. $987.00

Yep.

One less ObamaVoter right there.

Key West Reader on December 23, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Prediction:

Much of this “sign up flood” is along the following lines:

Chad Henderson
Chad A Henderson
Chad B Henderson
Chadwick Henderson
Chad Hednerson
Doodad Pro
Filler Info
CA Henderson III
Chuck Henderson

BKennedy on December 23, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Heyyyyyyy…. That sounds kinda familiar…. Hmmmmm.

/Obama’s online contributors in 2008! Mick E. Mouse
Don Ald Duck
Excellent Lovens
Clairvoyant Diva

/Uh huh

Key West Reader on December 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM

spare me the sign up crap, how many of those people will keep up payments let alone make the first one.

rob verdi on December 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Spare me the premium crap. How many of these people are going to have to put up their $12,000 deductible to get that life saving surgery in January.

NOMOBO on December 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I haven’t looked, but I hope healthcare.gov is plagued with auto-refreshes and overrun with auto play ads…

PointnClick on December 23, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Amateurish.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM

I haven’t looked, but I hope healthcare.gov is plagued with auto-refreshes and overrun with auto play ads…

PointnClick on December 23, 2013 at 2:07 PM

That website got the cooties.

/Heard that on the internets.

Key West Reader on December 23, 2013 at 2:15 PM

You’re probably right catsandbooks

cmsinaz on December 23, 2013 at 2:15 PM

this is what your boss gets for betting that sidling up to Barack Obama

Crocodile tears for the insurance industry. They didn’t, and don’t now, have the cajones to say NO to Obama because of fear. They deserve the treatment they are getting. Say NO and take it court, Obama folds like a cheap suit.

TulsAmerican on December 23, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Kind = King
Schadenfreude on December 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Thot you were referring the the German word… same thing.

AH_C on December 23, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Humbug!! I’ll never go near that website.

TarheelBen on December 23, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Obamacrime website burns up on reentry again.

SparkPlug on December 23, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Did you see that Obama’s staff signed him up for a bronze plan over the weekend. Because his personal information isn’t to be found in regular databases. Of course it is merely a show sign-up. The Yeti and their worthless brats are not enrolled in Obamacare. He continues to shuck and jive and hope we don’t see just how vile Obamacare is to real Americans- ones that can’t have staff “sign us up” over the weekend while we bump military folks from golf courses in Hawaii so we can play a round with political patrons on a vacation costing the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars.

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2013 at 2:47 PM

This guy is slowly doing exactly what Cruz wanted to do…….delay the bill.

*crazy lunatic, crazy lying lunatic, crazy lying lunatic that thinks we are as stoopid as he is*

When he passes, I hope it’s with crabs in his mouth on a lonely deserted island, while waiting for someone who actually gives a crap about his existence.

avagreen on December 23, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Which identity did they use to sign him up? Barry Soetoro, Barack Obama or Harrison Bounel?

TarheelBen on December 23, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Why do people need to make a separate payment upon receipt of an invoice? On a real web site, I choose what I want, pay for it then and get the product shipped to me or I am enrolled for a service immediately.

Is this too easy for the geniuses in D.C.?

FOWG1 on December 23, 2013 at 1:16 PM

You must be confused. Obama told us that signing up for Obamacare would be just like buying something from Amazon. He wouldn’t lie to us would he?

Seriously though, do you really want to provide your credit card/ bank account information to these people?

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Yah, you’re right. I’m a goof, thanks Nomad.

FOWG1 on December 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM

It’s like the Redskins – Superbowl Next year!

TerryW on December 23, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Affordable Care Act: Another lie, Another miss direction. With smoke and mirrors.

It is a tax credit used to offset the cost of premiums.

1. It is a tax credit applied to your end of year tax obligation .
2. You must have owed some taxes to have the credit applied.
3. If low income you will NOT have sufficient tax obligation to get the full tax credit.
4. You will receive only a smaller portion of the potential tax credit.
5. You still have to pay the FULL amount for the premiums up front.
6. You only get the credit if any after you file your taxes.

Wait until January when people find out this one.

jpcpt03 on December 23, 2013 at 1:59 PM

I thought the same. I guess the D.C. folks will pull out an “Earned Income Tax Credit” scheme. More magic.

FOWG1 on December 23, 2013 at 3:13 PM

I recommend the Deadline du Jour, sir. It’s always new and different!

Marcola on December 23, 2013 at 3:27 PM

The Associated Press ‏@AP 2h

MORE: Last-minute health insurance shoppers given grace period: http://apne.ws/1gSm8GM
=======================

Last-minute insurance shoppers given grace period
By CARLA K. JOHNSON
— Dec. 23, 2013 2:08 PM EST
***************************

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/last-minute-insurance-shoppers-face-down-deadline

canopfor on December 23, 2013 at 3:39 PM

How can this thug continue to make changes to a LAW without Congress? When is someone going to hold these criminals accountable?

HomeoftheBrave on December 23, 2013 at 3:41 PM

I’ve not signed up, nor do I intend to.

RedNewEnglander on December 23, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Extended until Christmas Eve. Well, that solves all the problems with the Unaffordable Care Act./s

SC.Charlie on December 23, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Obama health care law
3h
Obama administration says it will extend deadline to Dec. 24 to sign up for Jan. 1 health care coverage to account for any technical difficulties with healthcare.gov – @Reuters
read more on reuters.com
========================

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/23/us-usa-healthcare-deadline-idUSBRE9BM0NY20131223

canopfor on December 23, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Obama health care law
2h
====
Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services: ‘Anticipating high demand and the fact that consumers may be enrolling from multiple time zones, we have taken steps to make sure that those who select a plan through tomorrow will get coverage for Jan 1′ – statement via @NBCNews
============

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/obama-health-care-law/

canopfor on December 23, 2013 at 4:05 PM

“Now, O king, … sign the writing, that it be not changed, according to the law of the Medes and Persians which altereth not.”

You know it’s pretty bad when an Iron Age absolute monarch had more sense about how detrimental ever-changing laws are to a society than the smartest president evah.

CJ on December 23, 2013 at 4:23 PM

I wonder how many of the insurers call it quits next year. They’ve shown their loyalty is not with the consumers but will they call it quits before the losses are even worse?

COgirl on December 23, 2013 at 4:59 PM

According to the two individuals, both of whom spoke on condition of anonymity about a matter that is not public, the one-day extension is automatic, built into the computer software, and cannot be overridden by individual insurers if they object

Did they just write that code and publish it?

Well, with these nimrods, that is a possibility. Hopefully, the nimrods have learned that they need an effective and reliable change management process in place including regular updates to production on a set schedule as opposed to ad-hoc updates.

That tells me that they knew that they were going to extend the deadline at least last week, if not longer ago, and were just going to change the law at the last minute and not communicate it.

Hopefully the CEO’s and Board’s of the insurers who are partnering with this clusterfarked Administration on the EpicClusterFark are starting to realize what a sh!tburger the House of Obama has delivered to them in their Obamacare takeout. These companies are being sold out – and if the Administration decides not to bail them out in the fall of ’14 or ’15 – they will go under.

Athos on December 23, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Flop sweat.

Galtian on December 23, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Lefties grumble whenever conservatives call this a government takeover of health care, but with every new half-assed, nakedly political HHS-mandated “fix,” that term becomes more accurate.

I wish to point out something here that is plainly obvious:
These illegal power grabs by the executive branch occur because the check on the executive, the legislature does nothing to stop the executive. By doing nothing, they are in collusion with him. They embolden to seize more unrestrained un-mandated power.

paulsur on December 23, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Allahpundit:

When the CEO tells you you’re working Christmas Eve, you’re working Christmas Eve.

Ben Affleck – Runner, Runner:

This is your job. You want a clear conscious, go start a charity. But if you want your own island, and your boss says you gotta go out there and take a beating, go out there. Take it. Come back to work. And say, ‘Do you need me to do it again?’!

http://youtu.be/8MBNw-JIMb0

gumble on December 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Merry Christmas!

David Blue on December 24, 2013 at 8:06 AM

It still aint working. Been waiting for the confirmation of identity for 3 days…they say it is done but the computer doesn’t know it. It won’t upload proof (drivers license)…just sits there. Chat NEVER works. I’m computer savvy and buy crap on-line all the time yet cannot on this site.

Dingbat63 on December 24, 2013 at 9:55 AM

Well then, since the government can just disregard laws they pass, then I think I will just disregard the laws they pass. I think I’ll just delay paying any taxes for 5 years.

F_This on December 24, 2013 at 11:49 AM

“White House officials noted that for security reasons, the president’s personal information is not readily available in government databases that the exchanges use to verify identities and check eligibility for tax subsidies.” -CBS

I guess that makes the good folks at CBS birthers now.

Akzed on December 24, 2013 at 6:01 PM