Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on December 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

A rough count puts the number of [ObamaCare] delays enacted by the administration over the last year in double figures.

From the employer mandate to the online enrollment system for small businesses, the deferrals have substantially changed how the law will operate in 2014.

What has remained largely untouched is the individual mandate. Most people will still be required to carry health insurance next year or face fines.

But even this bedrock principle of the healthcare law was slightly modified this week.

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The individual mandate includes a “hardship exemption.” People who qualify can either ignore the individual mandate altogether or purchase a cheap, bare-bones catastrophic insurance plan that’s typically only available to people under 30…

Today, the administration agreed with a group of senators, led by Mark Warner of Virginia, who argued that having your insurance plan canceled counted as “an unexpected natural or human-caused event.” For these people, in other words, Obamacare itself is the hardship

This puts the first crack in the individual mandate. The question is whether it’s the last.

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What an incredible political turnabout. Mr. Obama and HHS used to insist that the new plans are better and less expensive after subsidies than the old “substandard” insurance. Now they’re conceding that at least some people should be free to choose less costly plans if they prefer—or no plan—and ObamaCare’s all-you-can-eat benefits rules aren’t necessary for quality health coverage after all…

Pulling the thread of the individual mandate also means that the whole scheme could unravel. Waiving ObamaCare rules for some citizens and continuing to squeeze the individual economic liberties of others by forcing them to buy what the White House now concedes is an unaffordable product is untenable. Mr. Obama is inviting a blanket hardship amnesty for everyone, which is what Republicans should demand.

The new political risk that the rules are liable to change at any moment will also be cycled into 2015 premiums. Expect another price spike late next summer. With ObamaCare looking like a loss-making book of business, a public declaration of penance by the insurance industry for helping to sell ObamaCare is long overdue.

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One has to wonder how this can’t other than further undermine how people feel about Obamacare––particularly its fairness––and taking their “social responsibility” to sign-up seriously…

When it’s all done, will this make those who lost their health plans happy?

Well, they had a health plan they presumably liked and/or could afford. Obamacare forced its cancellation. Now the administration is saying they will not fine them for being uninsured and will make a very high deductible plan available to them.

It’s hard to see how they will see this as an improvement.

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Up until this point, there was a plausible argument to be made that most of the other ACA exceptions, exemptions and delays announced in the last year were made in the name of fairness. Employers were supposedly having trouble getting their paperwork and computers systems in line to comply with the employer mandate, so it was delayed a year — for all employers. Consumers trying to buy new plans through HealthCare.gov were struggling to navigate a dysfunctional website, so the deadline to sign up for coverage was extended from Dec. 15 to Dec. 23 — for everyone shopping through HealthCare.gov.

In contrast, the Obama administration’s changes in response to political fallout from individual market plans being canceled this fall — allowing states to extend existing plans for an extra year and this new hardship exemption — are something else. Thursday’s change puts those with canceled policies in a unique category that offers them a different kind of coverage and the ability to disregard the individual mandate, a major tenet of the law, which does not seem fair to those who did not have insurance prior to the law and who would very much like to buy a catastrophic plan but cannot. Republicans have already pounced on this latest change to argue that if Obamacare rules are simply too onerous for the small subset of Americans whose policies were canceled this fall, then they are too onerous for everyone else as well.

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Let’s just take a real-world example. An uninsured 31-year-old male living in Los Angeles and earning a salary of $32,000 would only qualify for $1 per month in subsidies through Obamacare, according to a search on the California exchange. Because he is 31, he wouldn’t be eligible for cheaper catastrophic insurance. Thus, the most inexpensive plan available to him would be a “bronze” L.A. Care plan costing $178 per month, or $2,136 per year, with a $5,000 annual deductible.

If he chooses to remain uninsured, he’ll be subject to the mandate of 1 percent above the tax filing threshold, meaning around $220.

In contrast, let’s say there is a 31-year-old male in California who earns $100,000 per year. He had insurance through United Healthcare, but his plan was canceled once the insurer decided to leave the California market. Under the HHS rule change, he would have the option of purchasing a plan for $148 per month, or about 17 percent less than the lowest option available to the man earning less than a third of his income. Additionally, the higher-income individual would have the option of skipping insurance altogether without being subject to a fine.

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The way it treats almost everyone else is unfair: The exchanges have been open for three months now, and plenty of Americans have committed to buy plans that were either more expensive than they want or that they didn’t want in the first place. If people whose individual-market plans have been canceled knew this was going to happen, they could have waited to buy a catastrophic plan, or bought one on the non-exchange market, or gone without insurance entirely. Marco Rubio put it reasonably on Thursday: “This is a slap in the face to the thousands of Americans who have already purchased expensive insurance through the Obamacare exchanges.”

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This is a sign the administration is desperate to avert the very real likelihood that millions more people will be uninsured next year than before

It will mean that an even greater number of healthy people will have an incentive to not participate in the standard exchange plans, further eroding the risk pools.

It shows that the products designed in the ACA were not selling well; so, at the last minute, the administration is going to offer a very different product. Basically, the president is holding a fire sale on a failed launch.

And it suggests that conservatives were right all along in saying that the most important thing is for people to have catastrophic coverage.

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Insurers like Aetna and Humana, when they priced their plans for the Obamacare exchanges, did so by averaging the expected health spending by the people who would sign up for those plans. This new “hardship exemption” will encourage healthier individuals, whose expected spending would be low, to drop out of the pool. As a result, average spending per enrollee on the exchanges is likely to be substantially higher than the insurers had planned for, forcing them to lose money on their policies.

“This latest rule change could cause significant instability in the marketplace and lead to further confusion and disruption for consumers,” said Karen Ignagni, president of AHIP, the insurer trade group, last night. That’s especially true if enterprising Americans generate fake cancellation letters, in order to avoid Obamacare’s individual mandate.

And the catastrophic plans, as I noted above, were priced by the insurers on the assumption that the vast majority of enrollees would be under the age of 30. If healthy but older people sign up for these plans, insurers will lose money on them, too. “Panic mode” is how insurance executives are describing the administration’s moves—but the insurers themselves are going to have to wonder about the financial viability of their exchange-based plans.

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I’d ask this: What do you do for an encore? Will the administration force these folks to buy insurance next year? Or will they keep allowing special exceptions rather than take the political heat for changing health insurance that people liked?…

However incoherent these fixes may seem, they send two messages, loud and clear. The first is that although liberal pundits may think that the law is a done deal, impossible to repeal, the administration does not believe that. The willingness to take large risks with the program’s stability indicates that the administration thinks it has a huge amount to lose — that the White House is in a battle for the program’s very existence, not a few marginal House and Senate seats.

And the second is that enrollment probably isn’t what the administration was hoping. I don’t know that we’ll start Jan. 1 with fewer people insured than we had a year ago, but this certainly shouldn’t make us optimistic. It’s not like people who lost their insurance due to Obamacare, and now can’t afford to replace their policy, are going to be happy that they’re exempted from the mandate; they’re still going to be pretty mad. This is at best, damage control. Which suggests that the administration is expecting a fair amount of damage.

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[T]he individual mandate is probably done for.

I would now assume that no one will pay the individual mandate fine for 2014. The administration may give up on the mandate in the course of the ongoing enrollment period if the political pressure is great enough, or they may keep up the pretense of it through the end of the enrollment period in March (when it will have finished its work, so to speak, since its purpose is to influence choices made during that period) but then exempt everyone from it as they did with the employer mandate for this year. Having now exempted from the fine people whose policies were canceled and who haven’t spent the money to get more expensive and less appealing new coverage, the politics of still applying the fine to everyone else who is uninsured this year will probably just not be sustainable, and the politics of exempting people from it (especially if they can hold out on doing so until after March 31) will be far too appealing for this White House to resist. They may claim the mandate will be back in 2015, but if they do exempt everyone from it in 2014 it will be hard to bring it back.

The administration claimed in court in 2012 that the mandate was absolutely essential to Obamacare’s implementation, and maybe it was. But they have come to realize over the past few months that Obamacare as they envisioned it is not really going to happen, and their goal now is to enable the survival of whatever elements of it can survive, so that they can regroup when the dust settles and try to rebuild some form of the liberal approach to health financing. The mandate is becoming an impediment to that goal, and it strikes me as reasonably likely now that it will not survive.

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Bishop?

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:32 PM

Cardinal?

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Pope?

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Ok, I’m not going to risk blasphemy here.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:34 PM

The Lying Sack of America.

Mason on December 21, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Where are my Christian Soldiers?

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Pawn!

LeftCoastRight on December 21, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Queen takes pawn.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:39 PM

It’s a rats nest of rules, regulations, taxes, and exemptions that favor Obama’s cronies, and others in the know.

Paul-Cincy on December 21, 2013 at 8:41 PM

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Hey! Enough of the sex talk.

cozmo on December 21, 2013 at 8:45 PM

ObamaCare: So awful you’ll forget you have cancer!

Punchenko on December 21, 2013 at 8:47 PM

Angels from the Realms of Glory

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:48 PM

ObamaCare: So awful you’ll forget you have cancer!

Punchenko on December 21, 2013 at 8:47 PM

You can keep your cancer.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 21, 2013 at 8:48 PM

cozmo on December 21, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Keep your pants on …

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:49 PM

ObamaCare: Choose from three levels of coverage starting with Cuba, North Korea, and Ninth Circle of Hell policy plans!

Punchenko on December 21, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Once in Royal David’s City

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:50 PM

America where a million people ain’t nothing.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 21, 2013 at 8:51 PM

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Um, oops…

cozmo on December 21, 2013 at 8:52 PM

It’s like a Social Conservative’s dream blog around here the last couple of days. Early gift from AP to we, the beleaguered. I’ve even gotten mad and thrown the mace once or twice.

Quoted the Bible, Cicero, fought same-sex “marriage,” taught about Jesus, Louisiana, and history, held off Cozmo — pantless freak — I can’t even remember it all. There was even a table saw in there somewhere. It’s been a blast, and I’m exhausted.

No one argue with me. About anything.

You’re right; you win.

Pass the Cheetos.

Bring RWM.

Sing.

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 8:54 PM

ObamaCare: From the people that brought you the Vietnam War, Prohibition, and the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment!

The Tuskegee syphilis experiment[1] was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service to study the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African American men who thought they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

Punchenko on December 21, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Oh Holy Night

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Man, good hank is all over this thing tonight.

Lanceman on December 21, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Saw you posting over on the Buggery Thread … looks interesting … I’m going to take a short time-out to look through the arguments there.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Bring RWM.

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Has she been sighted recently?

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 21, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Lanceman on December 21, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Three bishops last night … I’m on a roll.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:58 PM

O Come All Ye …

… you all know the rest.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Saw you posting over on the Buggery Thread … looks interesting … I’m going to take a short time-out to look through the arguments there.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Check INC.

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 9:03 PM

ObamaCare: But choose wisely, for while the true Policy will bring you life, the false Policy will take it from you.

(*Chooses North Korea policy*)

ObamaCare He chose… poorly.

Punchenko on December 21, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Anybody know MadCon’s blog? I really wanted to see his take on pajamaboy.

Lanceman on December 21, 2013 at 9:05 PM

the main thing that is sub-standard is obama. Leftists are always stupid, venal and corrupt. That is why communist countries fail. They can not replicate the private market.

They can not replace the large numbers of hard working and smart business people and docs and nurses…etc. Sure, letists can run a GOTV organization with enough money…they can shake down people with enough agitation…and that’s about it. It is funny to see trolls come here to do some agitprop. But that is all they are…they are otherwise incompetent

I do hope that this country can be redeemed. The vast and profound incompetency of barry and his sneers about sub-standard plans of the past is so tiresome. And his poodle press is selling this country down the river for their own vanity

r keller on December 21, 2013 at 9:05 PM

See Amid The Winter’s Snow

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Check INC.

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Did so. Now I’m looking at his links.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:09 PM

In The Bleak Midwinter

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Check INC.

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 9:03 PM
Did so. Now I’m looking at his her links.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:09 PM

FIFY – She’s a girl.

RickB on December 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM

So much for the rule of law.

Obama delenda est!

Charlemagne on December 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM

FIFY – She’s a girl.

RickB on December 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Thanks … it’s hard to keep track.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Lanceman on December 21, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Good evening … been a while.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Did so. Now I’m looking at his links.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:09 PM

pssst: her. :)

Has she been sighted recently?

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 21, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Not by me. :) But dropping off the planet is pretty normal for her. I hope she’s taking a complete-break break. I can’t talk — I go walkabout for months.

Then, I dunno. Maybe she’s cooking something. I am. Things, they are a changing. :) Hope I don’t miss her before I head out myself, though — that would suck.

Still.

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM

With O-care now revealed for the incoherent, ill-conceived, dogmatic, unworkable clusterf**k that it was from the start, it is obvious that there are two, and really only two, possible reasons for it being so.

1. The One and his minions are even stupider, less competent, and more dogma-driven than anyone believed anyone else could be.

2. The One and his minions are so obsessed with their anti-Western civilization fanaticism that they wanted to punish the American people simply for existing.

Note that the two are not mutually exclusive.

clear ether

eon

eon on December 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM

ObamaCare. It’s catching on like the Sars virus at Chernobl without gel inserts.

SparkPlug on December 21, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Miracle Hymn

Completely new to me. Very nice.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Good evening … been a while.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:15 PM

I’m around. But all of these clowns reacting to a troll that ain’t real degenerates threads quickly. Kinda like seeing Lourdes or Annin every other comment.

I wanna see what people think. Not bullsh!t.

Lanceman on December 21, 2013 at 9:21 PM

I wanna see what people think. Not bullsh!t.
Lanceman on December 21, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Well I think in Magic 8 Ball language which no one understands.

SparkPlug on December 21, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Hi merm.

SparkPlug on December 21, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Axe,thanks.

Also, love the tune.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 21, 2013 at 9:24 PM

eon on December 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM

Or alternately, a plan so eff’ed up that the only solution is single payer…

For the children, you know…

PointnClick on December 21, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Lanceman on December 21, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Lourdes seems much saner recently. OTOH, I’ve been reading Ann Barnhardt too.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:26 PM

SparkPlug on December 21, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Jue say hey to Scrumpy, GlowPlug?

Lanceman on December 21, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Lourdes seems much saner recently. OTOH, I’ve been reading Ann Barnhardt too.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:26 PM

I’m sorry, but that broad just loves to see herself in print. She quotes herself for Christ’s sake. One can gain much insight into a person by reading comments on a blog.

Lanceman on December 21, 2013 at 9:28 PM

This all you can eat stuff was mostly left wing nonsense. But expensive nonsense. Sex changes, etc.

pat on December 21, 2013 at 9:30 PM

…everything is good…JugEars is in Asia until next year…what could go wrong?

KOOLAID2 on December 21, 2013 at 9:32 PM

But expensive nonsense. Sex changes, etc.

pat on December 21, 2013 at 9:30 PM

They’ll get that and then they’ll pull the plug on an overweight teen who suffers an injury during surgery for her tonsils.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 21, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Obamacare is like watching little children play cards where they make it up as they go along. At the end of the day, everyone feels cheated.

MrX on December 21, 2013 at 9:33 PM

I sure hope we get a two week Obama free grace period for Christmas. I’m so very tire of this man.

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 9:34 PM

I sure hope we get a two week Obama free grace period for Christmas. I’m so very tire of this man.

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Well they sure tried with the setup of Mr. Robertson.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 21, 2013 at 9:34 PM

I sure hope we get a two week Obama free grace period for Christmas. I’m so very tire of this man.

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Gonna be a long three years. I may end up putting a pill in my head.

Lanceman on December 21, 2013 at 9:34 PM

I sure hope we get a two week Obama free grace period for Christmas. I’m so very tire of this man.

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 9:34 PM

MERRY CHRISTMAS, CINDY MUNFORD!

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 9:38 PM

O LITTLE TOWN OF BETHLEHEM

“Forest Green” tune by Ralph Vaughan Williams

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Merry Christmas, dearest Axe!!!!!!!

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Pope?

gh on December 21, 2013 at 8:34 PM

The Pope Smokes Dope

Getting the party started early on Saturday night…

JohnGalt23 on December 21, 2013 at 9:41 PM

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 21, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Do you really think that this is a tactical diversion? Hard to believe that poor Mr. Robertson could be the answer for Obama and his Obamacare mess up.

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 9:41 PM

…in case people get busy the next couple of days…and don’t make it back here…
MERRY CHRISTMAS to YOU!…and your family and loved ones!

KOOLAID2 on December 21, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Thanks for the endorsement, Axe. Yes, gh, I is a her!

I haven’t mentioned this in quite a while—in fact, maybe only once or twice, because trolls love to stomp on your heart with hobnailed boots—but in addition my being a Christian, there’s a reason why I comment a great deal about homosexuality. Let me say again that it’s not my truth, it’s God’s truth. To honor Him is to affirm His Word. I became a Christian out of a wildly liberal church. I also became a Christian in a wild time—during the heydey of the 60′s and the rise of the radical Left (yeh, I’m old, but at times I feel like I’m still 17).

But there’s also the fact that my brother died of AIDS. I still remember the Christmas when he gave us about three books on why the Bible was OK with homosexuality. It hurt so much that he would do that on Christmas when he knew what I believed, and my husband and I had loved him and listened to him. Yet in the midst of a liberal family, this conservative, evangelical woman was the one he turned to in his times of trouble. I loved my brother from the depths of my heart, and he knew it. He attempted suicide in the late 70′s and believe me, that caused me to examine what God had to say about being a man and being a woman. I’ve been reading and thinking and knowing too much about the sin, rebellion and pain of the homosexual lifestyle for quite a while.

Finally, there’s also the truth that if people never repent and turn to God, they’re going to die in their sins. Sometimes in the comments I lose sight of that, but it is the bottom line.

And so I feel compelled to keep speaking.

INC on December 21, 2013 at 9:46 PM

JohnGalt23 on December 21, 2013 at 9:41 PM

So you’re one of Those Libertarians?

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Yes, gh, I is a her!
INC on December 21, 2013 at 9:46 PM

You told me before. I’m old. Put it down to alzheimer’s.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:49 PM

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:49 PM

I used to have a memory like a steel trap. Now I mostly feel trapped trying to remember!

INC on December 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM

KOOLAID2 on December 21, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Merry Christmas to you and to all my Hot Air family. Heading north tomorrow.

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM

So you’re one of Those Libertarians?

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:47 PM

First of all, I’m one of those libertarians, not Libertarians. I’m a Republican.

Secondly, I can’t stand reggae. Too anti-American (and I don’t just mean in the political sense).

Now, the New Riders of the Purple Sage? That just screams “America!!”…

JohnGalt23 on December 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Hey looks like Munford is hijacking the thread. She must be stopped.

(:

SparkPlug on December 21, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Merry Christmas, Cindy! Drive safe. It looked like there’s a storm coming that way.

INC on December 21, 2013 at 9:54 PM

I couldn’t sleep last night, so around midnight I started reading “Happy,happy,happy”.

I finished around noon today.

It was a great read.

Asked the family about bugging out. They said no.

They like convienance stores. I like guns & gardens.

Jt’s gonna be a b!tch for them wben my way is the only way.

wolly4321 on December 21, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Merry Christmas to you and to all my Hot Air family. Heading north tomorrow.

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM

And, Merry Christmas to you, CM. Safe travels.

TXUS on December 21, 2013 at 9:56 PM

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 21, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Do you really think that this is a tactical diversion? Hard to believe that poor Mr. Robertson could be the answer for Obama and his Obamacare mess up.

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Maybe so. It sure has gotten the MSM off the hook for a while. Their bonus : They get to attack Christians and rednecks.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 21, 2013 at 9:56 PM

JohnGalt23 on December 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM

I like most music … never listened to NRPS before … good tune.

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:57 PM

fresh chocolate chip cookies

brought to you by Jesus’ birthday.

soon: mom’s peanut-butter fudge.

OMG

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Hey looks like Munford is hijacking the thread. She must be stopped.

(:

SparkPlug on December 21, 2013 at 9:53 PM

You know who’s the worst hijacker on the board?

The mermaid. We need to be ready. I’ll get a bag. You get a net and something shiny.

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 10:02 PM

This past summer one of the local burbs had a free Reggae concert. It was a beautiful night and a lot of fun. They finished the night with a version of Bob Seger’s Turn the Page. I couldn’t find their version….but found one of their other videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpC5lnadIt4

The music’s too upbeat to get down over it.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 21, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Hay…Barbie Walters said….

Maybe the Messiah will come out in the next 3 year…….
:)

Something to look forward to…

Electrongod on December 21, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Electrongod on December 21, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Merry Christmas, EG — and EG’s daughter. :) In case I don’t see you.

Not that I’m spying. “See” in a metaphorical sense.

Where do you live?

Just kidding.

But seriously.

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Electrongod on December 21, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Well, hate to tell her, but her Messiah turns wine to water and water to piss, on a daily basis.

TXUS on December 21, 2013 at 10:10 PM

INC on December 21, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Oh swell, another reason to dislike leaving Florida and breezy 80 degree weather.

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 10:11 PM

O: “I’m in charge, so we screwed up.”

HellCat on December 21, 2013 at 10:13 PM

SparkPlug on December 21, 2013 at 9:53 PM

I’ve always wanted to hijack a thread. It doesn’t take much on a QOTD thread.

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Vaughan Williams ~ The Lark Ascending

gh on December 21, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Hi Cindy … I’m not even trying ;-)

gh on December 21, 2013 at 10:15 PM

O: “I’m in charge, so we screwed up.”

HellCat on December 21, 2013 at 10:13 PM

I saw that. :) He mumbled the “we” too — like he just couldn’t say it, “I.” Part of his brain maybe queued up the “I,” and another part started the “we ” without checking (standing orders). How ever it happened, it was funny.

Well, like Hamlet seeing a ghost funny — there are limits to the funny in a tragedy.

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Merry Christmas to you all….

I spending Christmas with family….

In Montana…

On a similar note…

Merry Christmas to all of HotAir…

Electrongod on December 21, 2013 at 10:19 PM

gh on December 21, 2013 at 10:15 PM

You’re magic!!!!

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 10:20 PM

All this chit-chat is making me mad. This is QOTD — get back on topic: Chris Christie.

Enormous, RINO, or correct strategic move to position the GOP for partial legislative victories that are better than nothing, you stupid TrueCon™ people who are what’s really wrong with the Republican party?

I’m for Enormous + RINO. Also, “Not Chris Christie again, damn it Allahpundit.”

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 10:23 PM

I thought the QOTD topic was the ever shifting details of how ObamaCare will be implemented. Who can follow it all?

Fenris on December 21, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Going to VA Beach?

KCB on December 21, 2013 at 10:28 PM

I’m linking this because I LOVE it.

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 10:29 PM

KCB on December 21, 2013 at 10:28 PM

I am!

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 10:29 PM

I thought the QOTD topic was the ever shifting details of how ObamaCare will be implemented. Who can follow it all?

Fenris on December 21, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Oh.

I should probably start reading the quotes again.

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 10:17 PM

I thought He meant “I’m in charge, so whoever voted for me screwed up.”

HellCat on December 21, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Obama, Caligula’s Spawn, through your arrogance, heartlessness and stupidity, you have opened this formally blessed land and millions of innocent lives to the horror and devastation of ObamaCare…

VorDaj on December 21, 2013 at 10:34 PM

In The Bleak Midwinter

gh on December 21, 2013 at 9:12 PM

On a Cold Winter’s Day – Quadriga Consort

kcewa on December 21, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Oh.

I should probably start reading the quotes again.

Axe on December 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Nah, you’re probably better off not. Really, seriously, nobody can follow it all.

Fenris on December 21, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Obama, the Mad Child Pharoah, continues with his Rolling 9/11 against medical care.

VorDaj on December 21, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Not going until April. My new grandson will be here by then, So I have to meet him!

KCB on December 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

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