Great news: If you like your cancellation, you can keep your cancellation!

posted at 8:01 am on December 20, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Old and busted: “Those cancellations are exactly what we want, because people can sign up for better plans now!” New hotness: Those catastrophic plans we derided for the last five years will work just fine for all of you who got screwed by the Affordable Care Act. Or, hey, don’t bother getting insurance at all!

The Obama administration on Thursday night significantly relaxed the rules of the federal health-care law for millions of consumers whose individual insurance policies have been canceled, saying they can buy bare-bones plans or entirely avoid a requirement that most Americans have health coverage.

The surprise announcement, days before the Dec. 23 deadline for people to choose plans that will begin Jan. 1, triggered an immediate backlash from the health insurance industry and raised fairness questions about a law intended to promote affordable and comprehensive coverage on a widespread basis.

The only “surprise” about this announcement is that they made it on Thursday night, rather than opt for the Friday-night news dump strategy.  Maybe they figured that the media had more or less gone home for the holiday already.  Maybe HHS is taking the day off today, and needed to release it yesterday. They managed to take most of the days off in the 42-month web portal development cycle, so what’s another day, eh?

Otherwise, this has been the inevitable end game with the Monday deadline for January 1 coverage rapidly approaching.  The front end of Healthcare.gov is still a disaster, and the back end largely non-existent. Millions of people have had their existing insurance cancelled already, and only a few hundred thousand had managed to sign up — and many of those are Medicaid enrollments.  Even if the White House wanted to pretend that all is well, their utter incompetence and dishonesty would have had the effect of making millions of people income-tax cheats.

But can these people actually buy the kind of catastrophic insurance that made sense for most of them before ObamaCare?  ObamaCare, don’t forget, forced insurers to drop those kinds of plans in favor of ridiculously comprehensive plans that most healthy people won’t need anyway. And what happens if the millions of newly-uninsured sign up for such low-cost policies — or don’t bother to sign up at all?  The insurance industry just found out what it’s like under the Obama bus:

It is unclear how many people facing canceled policies will choose no insurance, bare-bones coverage or a plan through the insurance exchanges that meet new federal standards. But the prospect that healthy people with canceled insurance might opt out of the new health plans set off immediate alarm among insurance industry leaders, who already have been worried whether enough people who are inexpensive to cover will sign up.

“This latest rule change could cause significant instability in the marketplace and lead to further confusion and disruption for consumers,” said Karen Ignagni, president of America’s Health Insurance Plans, the industry’s main trade group.

No kidding. And don’t forget that without the mandate, they don’t have to buy insurance at all.  If they actually need coverage during the year, they can buy it then, thanks to the must-cover mandate in ObamaCare.  Now the uninsured won’t even have to pay a fine to make that cost-saving choice.

The White House figures that this will only impact less than 500,000 people:

It wasn’t immediately clear how many people might qualify under such an arrangement. The administration said Thursday that it believed that fewer than 500,000 people whose existing coverage had been terminated hadn’t yet enrolled in another plan.

First, that number is highly suspect.  More than 5 million cancellations went out, and only 365,000 people total had signed up in federal and state exchanges at the beginning of December.  But there’s another reason to be skeptical, too.  No one has really enrolled until they make their first premium payment, assuming that the insurers even have the correct enrollee information in the first place.  This is an open call for all of those who are getting shafted by high premiums to simply decide not to send that payment at all and take advantage of the amnesty. That choice will be most likely made by the healthiest (and youngest) “enrollees” who don’t need comprehensive coverage — leaving the less healthy and older to seriously disrupt the risk pools.

It’s a complete catastrophe. And the insurers aren’t going to have catastrophic coverage for this debacle.

Update: Daniel Halper makes a good point about this “hardship” exemption:

Today, the administration agreed with a group of senators, led by Mark Warner of Virginia, who argued that having your insurance plan canceled counted as “an unexpected natural or human-caused event.” For these people, in other words, Obamacare itself is the hardship. You can read HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’ full letter here. HHS’s formal guidance is here.

Yes, ObamaCare is the hardship. However, there’s another point, too.  The individual mandate is a tax, don’t forget, and not just a regulatory requirement. Is there a “hardship exemption” from paying taxes on an individual basis? Not one of which I’m aware, and certainly not without Congressional action.

Update: Dang it, I thought I was being original with the headline, but Jeryl Bier beat me to it last night:

You gotta get up early to beat Jeryl … or stay up really late.


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Obama should not hold a presser. Something tells me this is not going to go well for him.

He’d be better off slithering out of town.

matthew8787 on December 20, 2013 at 9:15 AM

How could it go well for him. He essentially has to stand there and admit failure. The moment he speaks the word repeal, he is admitting total defeat.

Why should the last people still subject to the mandate comply?

As I have asked before, does this not amount to a bill of attainder?

dogsoldier on December 20, 2013 at 9:23 AM

I don’t wish harm on anyone, but yet I don’t feel an ounce of sympathy for that piece of crap.

Doughboy on December 20, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Yeah, one individual who could leave the Senate toes up and I wouldn’t be a bit sorry.

Happy Nomad on December 20, 2013 at 9:23 AM

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Philly on December 20, 2013 at 9:24 AM

“We will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when…our planet began to heal.”

But people began to get sick. And had no insurance. And much more limited access to medical care. Thanks to OzymandiasCare.

But, hey, Barack, thanks for healing the planet anyway.

SacredFire on December 20, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Say, that is great news.

Lanceman on December 20, 2013 at 9:25 AM

I don’t wish harm on anyone, but yet I don’t feel an ounce of sympathy for that piece of crap.

Doughboy on December 20, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Don’t worry – I’m sure he has good insurance that allows him to see the best doctors of his choice.

kcewa on December 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM

I’m getting a headache.

gerrym51 on December 20, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Is Bill Clinton in D.C.? Maybe Obama will do following again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dODwyYpDmqY

NotCoach on December 20, 2013 at 9:31 AM

How is this supposed to work? Do these people just self-certify that their plans were cancelled due to Obamacare? Is HHS going to go to the hassle of figuring out everyone who’s had their plans cancelled?

They should just waive the whole individual mandate.

blammm on December 20, 2013 at 9:32 AM

The new health care law isn’t logical. God made a hole for us to insert our penis, er, premiums into. A vaginal hole, if you will. Now Obama wants is to insert our penises, er, premiums into a different hole, an anus, if you will. It isn’t logical.

MaxMBJ on December 20, 2013 at 9:36 AM

How is this supposed to work?
blammm on December 20, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Magically. Like everything else about this program.

kcewa on December 20, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Insurance companies are not immune to nor do they have coverage for Obama’s now famous “Reverse Midas Touch!!” Eat it raw, SUCKERS!!!

Deano1952 on December 20, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Geez, it’s hard to keep up with all of this mess. First there were the lies, and then there were the laws and now there are some laws and not other laws, and then you could buy online and then it was found you couldn’t, then it was found that some could and others couldn’t and some knew what they bought and some didn’t and some got confirmations and others information was garbled, some paid and some didn’t, some have to and others don’t…some people got help trying to get insurance and some were told to lie to get subsidies, some thought they bought a plan but really bought Medicaid, and then there were cancelled plans and now some of those plans aren’t canceled and there used to be deadlines and now there are deadlines for some but not for others…who is keeping track of what is real right now? Sebelius? Oh boy. I think the insurance companies were sold a bill of goods here and they can’t be too happy about it.

scalleywag on December 20, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Well, I do have to say, when one of the requirements of signing up is proving that your 7 and 9 year old are not and have never been incarcerated, I think that getting those 5 million re-signed up in a timely fashion might prove more than a bit difficult…

http://tracihilton.com/helpful-emails-from-obamacare/

UnderstandingisPower on December 20, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Unrelated: I hope Choomie does his press conference with Pajama Boy at his side – that would be something to see! :)

Anti-Control on December 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

A herd of them, the doctor speech redux with footie-jam people instead, all of them standing there holding oversized mugs and looking serious.

Instead of holding an umbrella there is a U.S. Marine holding Bark’s mug of hot chocolate.

Bishop on December 20, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Dogsoldier…. he will NEVER admit failure…. he will blame everyone but himself especially the gop
Count on it

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 9:43 AM

scalleywag on December 20, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Coming to theaters in 2014:

Incredible Journey: The quest for Obamacare!

The story follows a young gay guy named Chad as he celebrates 1 October by logging on to enroll in Obamacare and where that adventure takes him over the following months of Obamacare roll out. Spoiler alert- In the end Chad dies but not before he successfully signs up for Obamacare. At which time the death panel decided his life wasn’t worth saving.

Happy Nomad on December 20, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Instead of holding an umbrella there is a U.S. Marine holding Bark’s mug of hot chocolate.

Bishop on December 20, 2013 at 9:43 AM

I have this image of a Marine delivering marshmallows with military precision.

Happy Nomad on December 20, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Instead of holding an umbrella there is a U.S. Marine holding Bark’s mug of hot chocolate.

Bishop on December 20, 2013 at 9:43 AM

HA! That would accurately paint the picture of this administration. Maybe the official WH photographer could get the shot so it would be part of the historical record!

scalleywag on December 20, 2013 at 9:48 AM

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 9:43 AM

He will never say the words. But by his very appearance he makes that admission. The moment he addresses the idea of repeal he admits total defeat.

The fact that he has to discuss it is tacit admission that he and his staff have had to talk about the likely growing call to end the farce.

dogsoldier on December 20, 2013 at 9:49 AM

Can we please just repeal it already?

talkingpoints on December 20, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Happy Nomad on December 20, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Don’t be silly, there are no death panels, they told us there weren’t death panels so it must be true. /

scalleywag on December 20, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Aloha..!

d1carter on December 20, 2013 at 9:52 AM

I said in another thread, Boehner should call the House back, repeal this shite retroactively titled “Let’s Start Over,” and enact some incremental commonsense reforms that people can understand.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM

From your keyboard to God’s ears (eyes?).

talkingpoints on December 20, 2013 at 9:54 AM

Despite the fevered, panicked and constant stream of anti-Obama blog posts throghout the conservative blogosphere, enrollments are up.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/12/states-cite-surge-in-obamacare-sign-ups-ahead-of-first-deadline/

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Don’t be silly, there are no death panels, they told us there weren’t death panels so it must be true. /

scalleywag on December 20, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Do we really have to go through the list of all the things we were told were true that turned out to be lies? ;0

By my count there are five items on the biggest whoppers list. The lies so untrue that they are Pinocchio worthy

Our plan
Our doctor
Our Meds
Our hospital
Our volunteer fire department

With honorable mention for the very idea that signing up for Obamacare was no harder than buying a book from Amazon.

Happy Nomad on December 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM

I’ll give you that dogsoldier

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 10:00 AM

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM

What does that mean, though? Have they gotten a confirmation, have they paid, are they sure if they walk into an emergency room mid-January they’ll be covered? Who could trust the system after all this?

scalleywag on December 20, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Despite the fevered, panicked and constant stream of anti-Obama blog posts throghout the conservative blogosphere, enrollments are up.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/12/states-cite-surge-in-obamacare-sign-ups-ahead-of-first-deadline/

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Most of that is in Medicaid.
Enrollments include people who have signed up a plan, but HAVE NOT asked for an invoice or paid for their first premium.

Meanwhile, back in the real world.

Qualified Health Plan (QHP) Enrollment: 508,416*

Administration QHP Enrollment Goal by 03.31.14: 7,066,000

Percent of QHP Enrollment Goal Achieved: 7.2%
Percent of QHP Enrollment Period Elapsed: 44.5%

http://www.enrollmaven.com/

sentinelrules on December 20, 2013 at 10:02 AM

With honorable mention for the very idea that signing up for Obamacare was no harder than buying a book from Amazon.

Happy Nomad on December 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM

OR that it would cost about the same as your cell phone bill. OR that there was anything affordable about the affordable care act at all!

scalleywag on December 20, 2013 at 10:05 AM

libfreeordie

Sit ubuu, sit. Good boy.

teacherman on December 20, 2013 at 10:06 AM

sentinelrules on December 20, 2013 at 10:02 AM

You should show that to Jay Carney. Apparently he’s not able to find such numbers.

scalleywag on December 20, 2013 at 10:07 AM

I signed you up, libdie. I didn’t pay the premiums, especially so close to Christmas, but I signed you up.

Lanceman on December 20, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Wait it means, cher scallywag, is that enrollment is a slow process, its going to take a while. But the trend line is positive. Which is why Ed et al are producing anti-Obamacare blog posts at a FEVER pitch. I mean, for them to push those juicy culture war threads down thread? To not even post Palin caping for Duck Dynasty? Those are the posts that drive clicks. But these Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

I’ve seen Ponzi scheme that were better organized. And had better return.

ConservativePartyNow on December 20, 2013 at 10:15 AM

by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Oh man this is painful, libbie just offered to go get it’s own switch.

antipc on December 20, 2013 at 10:21 AM

But the trend line is positive. Which is why Ed et al are producing anti-Obamacare blog posts at a FEVER pitch.

Only because the train-wreck of the Obamacare roll-out allows them to post such threads, which is why you and your fellow lefty trolls have slowed down your posting.

Obamacare is a crap factory and enrollment lags further and further behind every day.

Those are the posts that drive clicks. But these Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Trayvon Martin is gonna be the next Emmett Till.

Yeah, those words were marked as laughable.

sentinelrules on December 20, 2013 at 10:21 AM

ObamaCare is not the same law now that was passed by Congress. What will it look like by mid term elections..?

d1carter on December 20, 2013 at 10:24 AM

ahhhh, that gal with THOSE EYES again!

ToddPA on December 20, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Get lost! I saw her first! She’s MINE!!

CurtZHP on December 20, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Oh man this is painful, libbie just offered to go get it’s own switch.

antipc on December 20, 2013 at 10:21 AM

More like its own riding crop and ball gag. That’s how it rolls.

CurtZHP on December 20, 2013 at 10:27 AM

by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

I think libs right. But they won’t be running with ObamaCare. They’ll be running ads touting their support for comprehensive reform of the ACA.

BobMbx on December 20, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Wait it means, cher scallywag, is that enrollment is a slow process, its going to take a while. But the trend line is positive. Which is why Ed et al are producing anti-Obamacare blog posts at a FEVER pitch. I mean, for them to push those juicy culture war threads down thread? To not even post Palin caping for Duck Dynasty? Those are the posts that drive clicks. But these Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Marked.

You know what else I marked, Baghdad Calhoun?

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

I can see why you’re a Communist. Actually believing ObamaCare is going to work takes a mighty feat of intellectual stupidity. Having such a dismal understanding of human nature makes one prone to embrace such idiotic ideals like Communism.

Of course at this point you’re living in total denial, and praying every night to your rainbow sisterhood deity that the Skittle shitting unicorn please arrive soon. Personally I don’t even argue anymore with friends and loved ones about ObamaCare. The turd sandwich speaks for itself, and all I have to do is sit and watch the dawning realization form on their faces at what government hath wrought.

NotCoach on December 20, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Instead of holding an umbrella there is a U.S. Marine holding Bark’s mug of hot chocolate.

Bishop on December 20, 2013 at 9:43 AM

…with JugEars…wearing a one piece pajama!

KOOLAID2 on December 20, 2013 at 10:33 AM

All I can say is thanx, Chief Justice Benedict Roberts, for allowing this mega all-time clusterfark to occur when you couldda nipped it in the bud a year and a half ago when, it’s obvious, you had no clue what you were thinking, as did American taxpyers. Thanx for screwing the American people. Too bad you won’t be around in 100 years to enjoy your legacy of shame. As for the mayhem, bedlam and chaos that this is causing–it’s exactly what the a$$wipe-in-chief was hoping for–just throw more and more and more chaos into daily American life to make the coup much easier. Ultimately the joke will be on the prezuhdunce when the second American Revolution occurs and its commencement draws nearer and nearer.

stukinIL4now on December 20, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Hey GOP; still expecting to win big in November because of Obamacare?

You might want to reconsider; something along the lines of ‘all of your eggs in one basket’, ‘counting chickens before they hatch’, and pissing off your f*cking base, etc.

Oddly enough, we see the Democrats bending over backwards, past the point of unconstitutional illegality to ensure their base, and anyone on the fence, is *not* angry with them come election time.

On the other hand, we see the Republicans bending over backwards to actively destroy and anger their base before election time.

Goodness, I wonder how this might work out in the long run, don’t you?

Midas on December 20, 2013 at 10:42 AM

I dipped my toe in the evil source of black slime that is healthdare.gov via link to see the current (previous even to this announcement) IRS rule on who has a hardship exemption.

No lie, if you have “received a utility disconnection notice” is on the list.

So if I am Al Gore or Barbra Streisand, and I let that electric bill just go for a while, until I get a disconnection notice, I am exempt from the “individual health contribution fee” or whatever Orwellian lie they’ve named it.

So there is no penalty if you don’t want one. It doesn’t say you had the power shut off…it says if you’ve received a disconnection notice.

I left the One Source and the evil of Shaitan as quickly as I could and ran a virus check and cleared my cache.

winoceros on December 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Hi Little Mitchy McConnell and Johnny Boehner! Oh and you too Reincey Boy Priebus!

We are assuming you’ve been paying attention and the GOP has a plan, a plan they are talking about together as a party, a plan they are articulating ad nauseum to the American people to repeal a scourge that everyone else seems to be noticing, rather ubiquitously, well sans you that is, despite the Christmas Holidays, and your stealth attempt to pass Immigration “Reform”, whatever the hell that is, but “it’s for the children- but it’s really for the Chamber of Commerce, more specifically- their money.

The American people are suffering and you’re dissembling into incomprehensible political muttering and useless backroom conversations.

You jet home having done nothing and the president jets off to Hawaii.

See the difference?

No, me neither. And that applies to most of the American people.

Yet you cannot figure out why the American people hate you as much as Democrats.

Oh and- Republican majority in the Senate next year.

Hahahaha. Hardy-ha.

They are slowly eating your lunch on this issue. You know, as you do zero to help people, Next, they will bend you over on immigration.

You are incompetent fools.

Marcus Traianus on December 20, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Speaking of Baucus’s senate seat.

OMG, they are talking about child predator Messina!

http://missoulian.com/news/local/walsh-messina-schweitzer-williamses-touted-as-possible-baucus-successors/article_5c618266-691a-11e3-972a-0019bb2963f4.html?comment_form=true#comments

MontanaMmmm on December 20, 2013 at 10:49 AM

by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Consider them marked.

Chris of Rights on December 20, 2013 at 10:53 AM

I said in another thread, Boehner should call the House back, repeal this shite retroactively titled “Let’s Start Over,” and enact some incremental commonsense reforms that people can understand.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Not only that, if Boehner calls the house back, the Senate would have to come back too, and there could be no recess appointments made.

winoceros on December 20, 2013 at 10:56 AM

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Even a dead cat bounces when it falls from a skyscraper.

blammm on December 20, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Despite the fevered, panicked and constant stream of anti-Obama blog posts throghout the conservative blogosphere, enrollments are up.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/12/states-cite-surge-in-obamacare-sign-ups-ahead-of-first-deadline/

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM

It’s going so well here in Minnesota that the MnCare director was given a permanent unpaid vacation as a reward.

Bishop on December 20, 2013 at 11:12 AM

“…would only affect about 500,000 people…”

Per. Week.
For a year.
Do the math.

orangemtl on December 20, 2013 at 11:19 AM

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Math is as hard as economics for you, slave-brain. Of course they’re up…from nearly zero.

You never said they’re “high”…a notable difference from “up”.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Despite the fevered, panicked and constant stream of anti-Obama blog posts throghout the conservative blogosphere, enrollments are up.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/12/states-cite-surge-in-obamacare-sign-ups-ahead-of-first-deadline/

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM

It’s going so well here in Minnesota that the MnCare director was given a permanent unpaid vacation as a reward.

Bishop on December 20, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Take one down and pass it around….another one bites the dust.
Add in Oregon.

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/20/head-of-oregons-failed-obamacare-exchange-resigns-after-signing-up-zero-people/

MontanaMmmm on December 20, 2013 at 11:20 AM

MontanaMmmm on December 20, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Messina would make a a good next-pajama-boy in diapers, along with liblikeaslave.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM

I laugh at the foolishness of libfree. The utter gall to come on here and say, with a straight face, that Obamacare is just fine. On a thread which is about the news that Obama is, once again, admitting that the site is not working!

Lib: If everything is peaches and cream like you claim, then why did Obama do what he just did, and allow these people to not have to sign up?

I do give you credit though, you are the only idiot brave enough to come on to a thread that explicitly shows Obamacare’s utter disasterness and claim with a straight face that this pile of feces is in fact a hill of roses.

Most people who aren’t college professors know better than that.

Vanceone on December 20, 2013 at 11:23 AM

In Jan and after the dead-due-to-obama and all who voted for obama’care’ will be on TV, along with their families.

Those videos will be epic.

This is just the beginning.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2013 at 11:24 AM

I will not comply because I am a free citizen of the United States, not a subject of its government. I consider non-compliance with this monstrosity and the tens of thousands of pages of regulations that are to be enforced by an unelected bureaucracy, and that have left a gigantic carbon footprint on our environment and the United States Constitution, a duty.

Non-compliance is my executive order, and that order reads in part that I do not recognize any government’s claim on my action or inaction in the marketplace, nor upon any personal information I am unwilling to divulge.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM

But these Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

To Quote from “Pirates of the Caribbean”..

“Consider them Marked”

Markvike on December 20, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Oh the humanity, libfree put your fingers in your ears and say lalalalal. CNN baby not Fox or HotAir.

http://therightscoop.com/cnn-obamacare-causing-americans-to-lose-access-to-their-doctors/

MontanaMmmm on December 20, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Despite the fevered, panicked and constant stream of anti-Obama blog posts throghout the conservative blogosphere, enrollments are up.
 
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/12/states-cite-surge-in-obamacare-sign-ups-ahead-of-first-deadline/
 
libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM

 
You really should start reading your citations, professor.
 

“We are seeing about 3,000 people a day approved for Medicaid or a [qualified health plan],” Kentucky Health Benefit Exchange executive director Carrie Banahan said. “We started out a few weeks ago at about a thousand per day.”

 
Nice “or” in there, eh? Notice which one they listed first.
 
BTW, you’ve been told repeatedly it’s well under 1% of the population. Apparently math-for-non-science-majors doesn’t teach students to understand what an incredibly low number that is.
 
Here, watch. From your link:
 

California, which has one of the most successful programs, averaged 15,000 enrollments a day last week, up from an average 7,000 a day the week before, state officials said. In all of November, 80,000 Californians picked a plan; in the first week of December, 50,000 signed up.

 
But let’s count them all as non-medicaid to help your ideology, professor.
 
80,000+ 50,000 = 130,000
 
130,000 signups / 38,000,000 (population 38 million) = 0.003
 
Multiply by 100 to find the percentage of the population
 
0.003 * 100 = 0.3%
 
Not three percent, mind you. Zero point three percent.
 
3/10ths of 1%
 
Three tenths of one percent of the population.
 

enrollments are up.
 
libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM

 
And still can’t break 1/2 of 1% in, per your link, the most successful state program.
 
(Thanks for the link, btw.)

rogerb on December 20, 2013 at 11:46 AM

“We will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when…our planet began to heal.”

But people began to get sick. And had no insurance. And much more limited access to medical care. Thanks to OzymandiasCare.

But, hey, Barack, thanks for healing the planet anyway.

SacredFire on December 20, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Well, ok. But at least we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when … Obamacare fell apart.

With this latest “fix,” they have finally crossed the point where they can no longer claim that the Obamacare law passed by a Democratic Congress is still in effect. What we have now is ObamaObamacare — a new law defined only by the president himself.

There Goes the Neighborhood on December 20, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

I wouldn’t make a habit of saying such things if I were you. Such statements have not worked well for you in the past.

Calling rogerb!

stvnscott on December 20, 2013 at 11:50 AM

All Obamacare onesies include that seat flap for access, and I don’t mean to facilitate a trip to the outhouse.

jangle12 on December 20, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Careful. Posters here might save those words, and they might come back to haunt you.

TarheelBen on December 20, 2013 at 11:55 AM

So, in offering equal protection under the law from taxes (the mandate is a tax, according to the Supreme Court), anyone who has had their insurance cancelled can ignore the mandate.
If gummint projections come true and some 93 million people have their policies cancelled in 2014, they will get the same protection from the tax next year.
Obama just killed the individual mandate by himself. In order to enforce it in 2014, he must treat people unequally. That will not hold up in court.

DublOh7 on December 20, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Careful. Posters here might save those words, and they might come back to haunt you.

TarheelBen on December 20, 2013 at 11:55 AM

rogerb is here!

KOOLAID2 on December 20, 2013 at 11:58 AM

obama exempts any group he wants.

I have the same right.

DO NOT COMPLY, if you are still free.

The USA is still not Adolf’s Germany.

“still” is the key word.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2013 at 12:09 PM

…rogerb is here!

KOOLAID2 on December 20, 2013 at 11:58 AM

libbie is as ‘smart’ as verbie.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2013 at 12:10 PM

What will it take for the Supreme Court to issue a summary judgment and throw this thing out? Wouldn’t that be a nice Christmas present?

COgirl on December 20, 2013 at 12:30 PM

For all the libtards

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2013 at 12:35 PM

So, Chief Justice Roberts says the mandate is a tax. From which some are expected by executive fiat. So much for equal protection and all that.

In the beginning, there was Taxation Without Representation.
Now, we have Taxation (or Not) By Presidential Declaration.
This is going to go well.

de rigueur on December 20, 2013 at 1:22 PM

If they actually need coverage during the year, they can buy it then, thanks to the must-cover mandate in ObamaCare.

Ed, That’s not entirely true. You can only enroll during open enrollment each year. So if you don’t get coverage for Jan 1, you have to wait until the next year. The exception is the first year when open enrollment is extended into March. Still not a good system.

m2 on December 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM

libbie is as ‘smart’ as verbie.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Nah. libdie is preferrable to verbaldouche.

In fact, libdie is our new getalife. A likeable dipshit.

Lanceman on December 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

is it just me or does he sound more tired and sad than usual?

Sachiko on December 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM

HE SAID “MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!” GOVERNMENT IMPOSING RELIGION ON THE PEOPLE!!!!!!

Sachiko on December 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM

ouch!! “has this been the worst year of your presidency?”

Sachiko on December 20, 2013 at 2:28 PM

aww i’m the wrong thread lol.

Sachiko on December 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM

If you cancel the mandate only for people who had their insurance cancelled in the individual market…how is that very much different from Ted Cruz agreement that postponing the mandate for individuals would at least help people and and the republican proposal for postponement in October that the media said SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT? So, it’s OK now to postpone the mandate, um…a waiver…for some…isn’t that typical?

In the meantime we have seen how bad and expensive Sebelius’ plan is, and we never would have if the President had not been so obdurate.

Fleuries on December 20, 2013 at 4:15 PM

I do give you credit though, you are the only idiot brave enough to come on to a thread that explicitly shows Obamacare’s utter disasterness and claim with a straight face that this pile of feces is in fact a hill of roses. Most people who aren’t college professors know better than that.
Vanceone on December 20, 2013 at 11:23 AM

What would you expect from someone who likes a part of the anatomy designed to hold back then pass feces when time to do so? Up is down, deviant is virtuous… And roses stink.

AH_C on December 20, 2013 at 7:13 PM

The pic says it all. Worth a 1000 words.

jaywemm on December 20, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Period.

Old eagle on December 21, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Well, I do have to say, when one of the requirements of signing up is proving that your 7 and 9 year old are not and have never been incarcerated, I think that getting those 5 million re-signed up in a timely fashion might prove more than a bit difficult…

http://tracihilton.com/helpful-emails-from-obamacare/

UnderstandingisPower on December 20, 2013 at 9:42 AM

The exchange of emails with Hilton’s state Exchange reads exactly like the articles Reader’s Digest used to run when automated computer billing was first introduced and customers tried to get a rational response to their billing foul-ups (via snail mail at the time) –
this was in the sixties.

Nice to know the same computers are still at work.
Guess they lost their pension plan.

AesopFan on December 22, 2013 at 12:59 AM

Poi!

Just eat some poi.

Keeps you healthy.

Ask Barack No-shame Obumbles.

King of Pineapples and Vacations.

profitsbeard on December 22, 2013 at 5:03 AM

Wealthy enough to have insurance that got cancelled?
We’ll let you get a cheaper catastrophic plan.

Too poor to even have insurance?
Sorry, you can’t get the cheaper plan, that’s only for more wealthy people.

I’m sure in someone’s head this makes sense; but it just makes my skull ache trying to deal with the idiocy.

gekkobear on December 23, 2013 at 2:12 PM

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