CNN poll: 14% of Republicans disapprove of Obama because … he’s not liberal enough?

posted at 4:21 pm on December 20, 2013 by Allahpundit

If you wanted to know who the hell’s voting for amnesty among the congressional GOP, here you go. Now you know.

Seriously, though. Fourteen percent? If you believe CNN, there are more GOPers who disapprove of O for not being as liberal as they’d like than there are who approve of him for being as liberal as he is. Dude?

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Meanwhile, the not-liberal-enough segment stands at eight percent among self-identified conservatives(!). What gives? My first thought was “margin of error.” Any time you take a small-ish subsample like “Republicans” or “conservatives,” the MOE creeps up and suddenly you’re at risk of weird, anomalous results. But the MOE here isn’t gigantic: For Republicans, it’s six percent. Even if you subtract that entire amount, you’ve got eight percent of GOPers seemingly wishing O really was the statist gladiator that lefty media dreams of. What about tea partiers, you say? Behold:

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Unless the only responses accounted for in the subsample margin of error are people who said they disapprove of O because he’s not liberal enough, you’ve got some small but not infinitesimal group of TPers in this boat too. What gives? Why would anyone call themselves a member of the tea party if they feel that way?

I think Harry Enten’s on the right track about the use of the word “liberal” in the question:

More from Republican poll analyst Logan Dobson:

Yeah, “liberal” is a gassy term. We know what we mean when we use it because we’re like-minded partisans, but what about low-information voters who don’t follow politics? Or, on the flip side, what about politically conscious right-leaning voters whose beliefs depart in a few key ways from mainstream conservatism? If you’re a libertarian for whom NSA surveillance is a major issue, you might identify as Republican generally but dislike O especially for not taking a more “liberal” view of the sort of data-mining that’s championed by conservative hawks. Likewise, if you think Obama’s been too aggressive in intervening abroad, you may equate interventionism with conservatism because of Bush’s example and conclude that O should be more “liberal.” In fact, some libertarians identify as “classical liberals” because they refuse to cede the term to leftists who use it as a rallying point for illiberal statist ends. There’s just too darned much room for interpretation in the term and too great a risk that people will apply it as a blanket designation even though they have only one or maybe two issues in mind here when they use it. Same goes for the eight percent of Democrats who think Obama’s too “liberal.” Why is that? Is it because they’re centrists generally who have numerous problems with O’s agenda, or are they mostly dogmatic Democrats who disagree sharply with O on one key topic, like abortion or gay marriage? Probably the latter, I’d guess.

The one truly interesting wrinkle about this is that the overall number who say Obama’s not liberal enough is a bit higher this month than it’s been traditionally. Skip to page 3 of CNN’s crosstabs to see how that metric has polled over time. Only in July and August 2011, in the thick of his first standoff with the GOP over the debt ceiling, did the “not liberal enough” crowd hit double digits. I think it’s back to 12 percent now partly because of upset over the NSA program and partly because, as ObamaCare crumbles, the further reaches of the left are starting to fantasize about the public option and single-payer.


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as ObamaCare crumbles, the further reaches of the left are starting to fantasize about the public option and single-payer.

You pinheads have NO idea what you are wishing for.

Bishop on December 20, 2013 at 4:24 PM

OT: Federal Court in Utah rules that Amendment #3 (ban against same sex marriage) UNCONSTITUTIONAL

Applying the law as it is required to do, the court holds that Utah’s prohibition on same-sex marriage conflicts with the United States Constitution’s guarantees of equal protection anddue process under the law. The State’s current laws deny its gay and lesbian citizens their fundamental right to marry and, in so doing, demean the dignity of these same-sex couples for no rational reason. Accordingly, the court finds that these laws are unconstitutional

kcewa on December 20, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Unfortunately, most of that 14% is inside the beltway. And 90% of congressional Republicans find themselves in that 14%.

besser tot als rot on December 20, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Finally, we can quantify the Establishment GOP as exactly 14% of the Republican Party.

Afterseven on December 20, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Among the respondents making up the 14%:

Chris Christie
Jeb Bush
John Boehner
Eric Cantor
Paul Ryan
Peter King
Mitch McConnell
John McCain
Marco Rubio

DRayRaven on December 20, 2013 at 4:28 PM

To be fair … I know a lot of people on the right who refuse to concede the term “liberal” to the fascist left and apply it in the classical sense.

besser tot als rot on December 20, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Most Ds and RINOs are not liberal.

Most are leftists though.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2013 at 4:32 PM

In fact, some libertarians identify as “classical liberals” because they refuse to cede the term to leftists who use it as a rallying point for illiberal statist ends.

And — after reading the entire post, I see that AP already said what I said. So. I agree.

besser tot als rot on December 20, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Most people have no clue what it means to be liberal.

See the state of the USA today: NSA and obama’care’, for your first clues.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Low info Republicans?

aryeung on December 20, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Those would be people who claim they’re conservatives or Republicans yet openly wish to live in a soft dictatorship such as David Brooks for example.

Doughboy on December 20, 2013 at 4:36 PM

I think the term we use is Leftist. Leftist is opposite of liberal. There is nothing liberal about Obama. He is, at heart, an authoritarian. Sure, he’s more ham-fisted than iron-fisted, but that is due to his incompetence. But, if he had his druthers, he’d be “ruthlessly efficient”.

How liberal was Stalin?

keep the change on December 20, 2013 at 4:36 PM

That’s the new base the GOP is chasing. Funny thing is, it looks a lot like the late-1970s Democrats (and not the ones who voted for Reagan in 1980 and 1984 either).

Steve Eggleston on December 20, 2013 at 4:36 PM

You pinheads have NO idea what you are wishing for.

Bishop on December 20, 2013 at 4:24 PM

I submit they do. It just isn’t what you think an American would wish for.

Steve Eggleston on December 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM

You don’t have to go much beyond finding the poll was conducted with 1035 “adults.”

That means it includes those who aren’t even registered to vote after 20 years of constant nagging, felons, immigrants legal and illegal, the mentally challenged, and virtually anyone else who can answer a phone and claim to be an adult.

In such a lowest-common-denominator poll, there are those who intentionally misidentify their party or beliefs just for the heck of it, or because they are afraid the information will be used to track them down with black choppers.

And, it’s an “issues” poll, which are notoriously ethereal, getting results that can be flipped entirely by merely rewording the question. And, it’s CNN.

But, it is Friday, and poll results are easy posts that make people think you’re working while you actually drinking beer and shopping Amazon for last-minute gifts.

Adjoran on December 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM

STOP EVERYTHING!! Utah is now a Same-Sex Marriage State!!! WOW!!!

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57291925-78/marriage-utah-laws-shelby.html.csp

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM

But the MOE here isn’t gigantic: For Republicans, it’s six percent. Even if you subtract that entire amount, you’ve got eight percent of GOPers seemingly wishing O really was the statist gladiator that lefty media dreams of.

That’s not what how statistical MOE works.

Clearly, what you have here are Vichy Republicans, who are well overrepresented in Congress, which is why the GOP is in the home stretch of its second political suicide run.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Maybe they are understanding the word in the classical sense. I consider myself a classical liberal. I doubt it, though. I think the more likely explanation is that they didn’t understand the question, as AP alludes to.

NotCoach on December 20, 2013 at 4:40 PM

There’s just too darned much room for interpretation in the term and too great a risk that people will apply it as a blanket designation

Add this to the ‘rebranding’ as progressives and the reason some of us consistently reference these individuals as LEFTISTS becomes apparent.

thatsafactjack on December 20, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Phony poll.

rjoco1 on December 20, 2013 at 4:43 PM

If you believe CNN,

Well there’s you problem right there.

SomeCallMeJohn on December 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Yeah, “liberal” is a greasy term.

Fixed.

Del Dolemonte on December 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Not by the will of the people…by judicial activism.

And, before you say it, homosexuality is not a race. it’s a sexual preference.

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM

STOP EVERYTHING!! Utah is now a Same-Sex Marriage State!!! WOW!!! I’m packing my bags and moving out there and joining the Mormon Church!

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57291925-78/marriage-utah-laws-shelby.html.csp

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Fixed.

Del Dolemonte on December 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM

libfreeorgan on December 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM

…when are you moving?

KOOLAID2 on December 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

ibfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Not by the will of the people…by judicial activism.

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Same thing happened in Massachusetts-the will of the people was actually against gay marriage, but the proponents found 3 Democrat Activist Judges to overturn the will of those people.

Del Dolemonte on December 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

If you wanted to know who the hell’s voting for amnesty among the congressional GOP, here you go. Now you know.
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UGH!!

canopfor on December 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

That is the Progressive Left wing of the Republican Party.

The ones that can’t figure out how to balance a budget and believe in a Progressive agenda socially. You know the spenders and ones who run down socons, traditional conservatives and ficons as being a drag on the party?

The McCain wing of the party that lies about wanting a border fence and border security and then pushes for amnesty? That lot. The Big Government backers.

ajacksonian on December 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Del Dolemonte on December 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

They are going to try it in every state that voted against it.

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 4:49 PM

And, before you say it, homosexuality is not a race.

I agree.

it’s a sexual preference.

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Sure whatevs. I’m not wedded to biological determinism myself.

Oh and for good measure, the Court apparently used Scalia’s dissent in Windsor to argue that Utah’s anti-gay marriage amendment violated the Equal Protection Clause:

http://joshblackman.com/blog/2013/12/20/utah-district-court-agrees-with-scalias-windsor-dissent-strikes-down-ssm-ban/

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:50 PM

huge difference between a liberal and a progressive.

dmacleo on December 20, 2013 at 4:50 PM

I’m not wedded to biological determinism myself.
libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:50 PM

I agree. There is no genetic cause.

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Allahpundit @allahpundit

@ForecasterEnten @LoganDobson Think you’re right. Some righties self-identify as “classical liberals”
====================================

Sumpin is Scrotched!!

canopfor on December 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM

STOP EVERYTHING!! Utah is now a Same-Sex Marriage State!!! WOW!!! I’m packing my bags and moving out there and joining the Mormon Church!

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57291925-78/marriage-utah-laws-shelby.html.csp

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Fixed.

Del Dolemonte on December 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM

A+ for making me laugh!

22044 on December 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Not by the will of the people…by judicial activism.

Which has been part of the United States system of government since 1803. Its not some newfangled thing.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM

STOP EVERYTHING!! Utah is now a Same-Sex Marriage State!!! WOW!!! I’m packing my bags and moving out there and joining the Mormon Church!

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57291925-78/marriage-utah-laws-shelby.html.csp

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM

linfreeordie:

Its already in ALLAHP’s tip email box!!

canopfor on December 20, 2013 at 4:53 PM

I agree. There is no genetic cause.

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 4:50 PM

There can still be glandural and hormonal causes that have not been identified that still do little to prove that it is a “choice.” For me, not a “choice” but I also don’t care if someone does choose. I think that’s just called bisexuality. Either way, society is moving towards acceptance that sexuality is not a basis upon which to discriminate rather than against that. Most of the junk science produced by selfhating people like George Rekers has been undone. Just deal.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Just deal. libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Nope. Don’t have to.

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 4:55 PM

STOP EVERYTHING!! Utah is now a Same-Sex Marriage State!!! WOW!!! I’m packing my bags and moving out there and joining the Mormon Church!

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57291925-78/marriage-utah-laws-shelby.html.csp

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM

libfreeordie::

Remember:

Colonel Condom states,that an Exit is not an entrance!!!

So be advised!!!
(Snark)

canopfor on December 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Crap,..I’m InExplicably PerPlexed,..how’d the Poll,
morph into a Same-SexaRoo ThreadaRoo!!

canopfor on December 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM

I suspect they misunderstood the question or heard what they expected to be asked but were not. I do not know any one who considers themselves a conservation who thinks the president is not liberal enough.

KW64 on December 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Nope. Don’t have to.

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 4:55 PM

That’s true. It is your choice to be miserable.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM

14% of Republicans disapprove of Obama because … he’s not liberal enough?

More cowbell! Errr….I mean – more socialism!

whatcat on December 20, 2013 at 4:59 PM

And yet you support discrimination based on sexuality, libfreeordie. When will you stop?

blink on December 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM

When someone outside of this blog cares about your useless false equivalencies I suppose…

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Are you too bigoted, or are you too stupid? It must be one or the other.

blink on December 20, 2013 at 5:04 PM

…both!

KOOLAID2 on December 20, 2013 at 5:06 PM

And much of that 14% holds elected office.
Maybe as high as 60% among GOP Congressmen.

jhnone on December 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Not by the will of the people…by judicial activism.

Which has been part of the United States system of government since 1803. Its not some newfangled thing.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Actually, the phrase judicial activism was invented in 1947.

Quick question for you and your students:

Were the actions of the (all-Democrat) Florida Supreme Court assisting (Democrat) Al Gore in November and December of 2000 “Judicial Activism”? Most references only refer to the later SCOTUS ruling as such.

And before answering, remember that SCOTUS struck down 3 different Florida Supreme Court rulings in that case, by 9-0, 7-2, and finally 5-4. But in the Democrat Fantasy World, the 9-0 and 7-2 rulings against their side never happened.

Del Dolemonte on December 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM

I have always thought that people who actually answer these polls are already out of the “norm” to start out with, regardless of political affiliation.

I still to this day have NEVER had a poll company call me, nor do I have any family, friends, or co-worker (that I know of)that have either been called or if they did get the call, actually had the time to sit there and answer questions over the phone.

…and how many prank poll takers would it take to make up the 7%?

Vigilante on December 20, 2013 at 5:10 PM

The gay rights movement is probably going to experience an epic backlash. Utahs law, a 2004 one, passed by 66% of the vote. That’s a super majority. Some Obama judge decides to override it? Not going over well.

In fact, I think Utah may have an out with all of this. Utah’s Enabling Act, way back in the 1880′s, specifically conditioned Utah as a state on polygamy forever being banned. It’s the only part of Utah’s constitution that is unamendable. It cannot be removed. Federal Law, and State Law, state that Utah cannot permit polygamy.

So if so federal judge says it’s legal, then Utah is no longer a state. It fails it’s enabling act. It fails its unamendable constitution. I would say that Utah could leave the union.

All due to pink fascism.

Vanceone on December 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Why do you call marriage equality a false equivalency?!?!?!

Because capacity is a thing.

What’s wrong with wanting everyone to have equal rights?

Because capacity is a thing.

Why don’t you want others to have equal right

Because capacity is a thing.

Why would you claim that people outside of this blog don’t want equal rights?

Because everyone else knows what capacity is.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM

CNN poll: 14% of Republicans disapprove of Obama because … he’s not liberal enough?

Boehner’s and the NE establishment’s preferred voting base, the liberal 14%.

With Boehner’s war on Conservatives it seems that they are anxious to peel off the remaining 86% of their voters to pander to that liberal 14%.

RJL on December 20, 2013 at 5:12 PM

I hope Utah’s governor says something along the lines of “Following Obama’s example of ignoring the laws and courts of this great country when he thinks it is popular, we here in Utah are going to ignore this Judge’s law, because we passed it by 66%. This was passed back when Obama and everyone else knew that SSM was not legal and in fact those bans were constitutional.”

Vanceone on December 20, 2013 at 5:13 PM

The gay rights movement is probably going to experience an epic backlash. Utahs law, a 2004 one, passed by 66% of the vote. That’s a super majority. Some Obama judge decides to override it? Not going over well.

Oh no. Democrats may lose Utah in 2016!!!

In fact, I think Utah may have an out with all of this. Utah’s Enabling Act, way back in the 1880′s, specifically conditioned Utah as a state on polygamy forever being banned. It’s the only part of Utah’s constitution that is unamendable. It cannot be removed. Federal Law, and State Law, state that Utah cannot permit polygamy.

This ruling has nothing to do with the Enabling Act. So how will it help them here?

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 5:13 PM

It will help, lib free, because ANOTHER federal judge last week legalized polygamy, for all practical purposes. So that’s a one two punch on sexual deviancy, and liberalism’s fantasy of humans being only animals, unable to control themselves.

Vanceone on December 20, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Because capacity is a thing.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM

This is the most stupid excuse for bigotry that I’ve ever experienced.
blink on December 20, 2013 at 5:17 PM

OK. Meanwhile, marriage equality marches on.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 5:21 PM

And before answering, remember that SCOTUS struck down 3 different Florida Supreme Court rulings in that case, by 9-0, 7-2, and finally 5-4. But in the Democrat Fantasy World, the 9-0 and 7-2 rulings against their side never happened.

Del Dolemonte on December 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM

I remember a picture making the rounds back then. The faces of all members of the Florida Supreme Court had been replaced by pictures of kangroos. It really was that blatant how they were attempting to help Gore win. I also recall the FL AG at the time, his name was Butterball or something like that, sending out instructions as to how to eliminate the military vote from being counted.

And yes, judicial activism is alive and well. It is why the lazy stupid rat-eared wonder is trying to stuff the DC Federal Court with radicals. That way he can just do his usual shucking and jiving and get a “judicial ruling” in favor of his blatant treason.

Happy Nomad on December 20, 2013 at 5:21 PM

And yet another thread hijacked. I’m sure we can come back in a few hours and see that virtually the entirety of this thread will henceforth be retorts to a troll who’s bound to stop posting in it in several minutes anyway.

Midas on December 20, 2013 at 5:23 PM

I had to go back and check to be certain this wasn’t a thread about the Utah Gay marriage decision, or a personal introspective thread on livelikeaslave’s sex life.

thatsafactjack on December 20, 2013 at 5:29 PM

They must have polled the Republicans in Congress.

cajunpatriot on December 20, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Meanwhile, Duck Dynasty fans have enriched A&E by buying ALL of Walmart’s Duck Dynasty products. Conservatives are a hoot.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Oh, I see why the slave felt entitled to hijack this thread… Allahpuntdit used the word ‘liberal’ in the headline.

thatsafactjack on December 20, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Put Nevada, Idaho, Colorado and New Mexico firmly in the Republican camp with ruling. Utah is already there but will be even more so now that this solidifies Mia Hamm’s upcoming victory.

kcewa on December 20, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Yet you oppose it. Why?

blink on December 20, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Because capacity is a thing.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Regressive, not liberal

astonerii on December 20, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Why are you embarrassing yourself with such a stupid answer?

blink on December 20, 2013 at 5:35 PM

I think most Americans would agree with me that there’s a range of compelling interests behind upholding capacity as a brightline standard in the law. Here’s an idea. If we went on television and I argued that we should have same-sex marriage between adults and not allow children to get marriage and you argued for “true marriage equality,” which of the two of us would be embarrassed?

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Congress better get their act together and prospectively legislate benefits for polygamous unions. I would limit the benefits to one spouse and 2 children. Then any SSI, disability, pension, Welfare payments max out. IF there are more spouses or children they have to split it or the first spouse/ 2 children get it. It’s not fair to stick the taxpayers with the bill. Congress might also want to limit payment by address.

How many years will it take till polygamy is legal in the US? The last Presidential candidates of both parties were both children or grandchildren of polygamists. All it will take is one Muslim challenging the status quo and it’s done.

No, we couldn’t just go for civil unions for gays, it had to be marriage. Once the one man one woman line is gone, there is no other realistic line within the species.

talkingpoints on December 20, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Put Nevada, Idaho, Colorado and New Mexico firmly in the Republican camp with ruling. Utah is already there but will be even more so now that this solidifies Mia Hamm’s upcoming victory.

kcewa on December 20, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Mia Hamm is running for office? That would be teh awesome.

22044 on December 20, 2013 at 5:43 PM

I suspect that a significant portion of the 14% consists of people who get confused as to which is liberal and which is conservative. It’s kind of like asking a preschooler to put their left hand over their right eye. If you don’t know which one is which, you’re going to come up with the wrong answer.

The career of self-described “conservative” Andrew Sullivan demonstrates that someone can even become a prominent political commentator without knowing which view is liberal and which is conservative.

J.S.K. on December 20, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Lib Free, I don’t see Duck Dynasty products anywhere, but I did see Duck Commander branded products at Wally World.
What is available near you may be different.

jhnone on December 20, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Either way, society is moving towards acceptance that sexuality is not a basis upon which to discriminate rather than against that.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Sexuality? Who is being discriminated against because of their “sexuality”? No one much cares. Just deal. I have to ask..does marriage = sex, to you? If so, how odd, imo.
That said, there are people who are discriminated against because of their sexuality. Polygamists, pedophiles, sadists, violence fetishists etc. Do you think those groups of people should continue to be discriminated against? Why or why not? Just curious.

Mimzey on December 20, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Democrats posing as Republicans…to skew the polls…

albill on December 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Lib Free, I don’t see Duck Dynasty products anywhere, but I did see Duck Commander branded products at Wally World.

What is available near you may be different.

jhnone on December 20, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Almost certainly true. Patients at a mental hospital generally can only shop at the canteen.

Happy Nomad on December 20, 2013 at 5:53 PM

It’s disgusting for you to try to hide your bigotry behind a concept as arbitrary as capacity, libfreeordie.

blink on December 20, 2013 at 5:47 PM

I will find a way to deal.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Good news for McCain, Graham and the rest of the RINO brigade.

Wigglesworth on December 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Meanwhile, the not-liberal-enough segment stands at eight percent among self-identified conservatives(!). What gives?

I believe Rasmussen formally introduced us to this particular bunch a year-and-a-half or so ago when he informed us that if Sarah Palin were to become the GOP nominee, fully 20% of self-identified conservatives would vote for Obama (as opposed to staying home or holding their nose in the voting booth).

Between that and watching people like Colin Powell and Kathleen Parker, and other right-of-center pundits who should have known better, swooning over Obama in 2008, I can totally believe that there are people out there who seriously claim to be conservative and yet operate like progressives.

Aitch748 on December 20, 2013 at 6:22 PM

I see the deviant has hijacked the thread.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 20, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Libfree should be embarrassed. He prefers guys sh8tholes.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 20, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Conservatives have been the RINOs in the GOP since the Bushes and Karl Marx Rove.

Valiant on December 20, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Liberal conservative. Isn’t that an oxymoron?

sadatoni on December 20, 2013 at 7:01 PM

There are very few true liberals in politics these days. Most are National Socialists.

Mr. Arrogant on December 20, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Just proves what we’ve always known. Polls from liberal sources don’t poll actual conservatives. They poll progressives who pretend to be conservatives, so they can announce that the majority of Americans support gay marriage, Government Health Control, etc…

ROCnPhilly on December 20, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Hey, there is a major flaw in all this deep analysis of polls like this. What on Earth gives anybody reason to believe any given person’s answers are true? On the very few times I’ve allowed a pollster to stay on the telephone I’ve lied left, right, center, up, and down however it amused me at the time.

They are intruding on my time. Usually I am trying to do something difficult such as write some difficult software. Interrupting me is not a way to get me to feel cooperative. If it blew a difficult concept out of my head I’ll sit down and lead the damn fools off into the woods on polls. Others I simply adopt a cheery sexy little voice and tell them that if they call me again “I’ll climb through this telephone and the wires to rip your throat out.” That last comes out more as a growl, though.

{o.o}

herself on December 21, 2013 at 4:00 AM

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Child molester groups are now seeking shelter under the equal protection act. But you’re digging that aren’t you?

smoothsailing on December 21, 2013 at 4:33 AM

Anybody can sign up for any political party they want to in this country. I know a very conservative, Tea Party adherent who is a registered Democrat…I wonder how many like him there are out there?

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 21, 2013 at 5:29 AM

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