Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on December 19, 2013 by Allahpundit

We want to thank all of you for your prayers and support. The family has spent much time in prayer since learning of A&E’s decision. We want you to know that first and foremost we are a family rooted in our faith in God and our belief that the Bible is His word. While some of Phil’s unfiltered comments to the reporter were coarse, his beliefs are grounded in the teachings of the Bible. Phil is a Godly man who follows what the Bible says are the greatest commandments: “Love the Lord your God with all your heart” and “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Phil would never incite or encourage hate.We are disappointed that Phil has been placed on hiatus for expressing his faith, which is his constitutionally protected right.We have had a successful working relationship with A&E but, as a family, we cannot imagine the show going forward without our patriarch at the helm. We are in discussions with A&E to see what that means for the future of Duck Dynasty. Again, thank you for your continued support of our family.

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As the fallout from Phil Robertson’s comments on homosexuality continues to rain down, some say its time to put a fork in “Duck Dynasty,” while others think the hit show has a few quacks left in it…

A source close to the show tells FOX411 that even if Robertson apologized, at this point, A&E is done with him

While Robertson did not apologize for his comments, he did explain them in a statement: “I myself am a product of the 60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior. My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together. However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”

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The swift decision-making by the A&E brass represents a new sense of urgency from nets to quiet the condemnation firestorm that spreads across the oil-drenched fields of Twitter, Facebook and blogs. “Duck Dynasty” draws in some of the most lucrative auds on TV — adults 18-34 and 18-49 — demos that are increasingly liberal-minded when it comes to matters of sexuality. “Real World” creator Jon Murray even noted recently that portraying a gay relationship on television no longer elicits the kind of shock from young viewers that it did in the ’90s — these things are now commonplace with TV viewers at a time when surveys show a majority of Americans support same-sex marriage.

With Phil Robertson’s remarks comparing homosexuality to bestiality, A&E likely felt it had little choice but to act swiftly, given the company’s stated corporate values, or risk letting A+E nets become a pariah in Hollywood and potentially damage relationships with advertisers.

In other words: when it comes to entertainment, low tolerance is turning into no tolerance.

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The guys from “Duck Dynasty” are NOT in danger of losing their biggest sponsor, Under Armour — ’cause while the company tells TMZ its not down with Phil Roberston’s homophobic comments, its not willing to kill the business relationship … yet.

UA — which sponsors the Duck Commander business, founded by Phil — just issued a statement to TMZ … saying, “We have no plans to change our current relationship.

The company adds, “We are obviously aware of the situation. And his comments are not indicative of Under Armour’s views.”

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“You want to be on television and get all the things that come with it? Well, when you say stupid stuff, whether it’s on television or not, and you get criticized, you have to — and when it’s really bad, you have to suffer the consequences,” Capehart began.

“Phil Robertson’s grandson, Willie [Robertson’s] son, is adopted and he’s bi-racial,” he continued. “That comes towards the end of the piece after you’ve read everything that he has said about gay people, about women, about African-Americans. You know, blacks are happy in the pre-civil rights era.”

“Then you read he has a bi-racial grandchild. What environment is that child living in?” Capehart worried. “What will that child to unlearn when he gets older?”

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The reason that so many Americans love Duck Dynasty is because it represents the America usually ignored or mocked by liberal elites: a family that loves and cares for each other, believes in God, and speaks openly about their faith.

If you believe in free speech or religious liberty, you should be deeply dismayed over the treatment of Phil Robertson. Phil expressed his personal views and his own religious faith; for that, he was suspended from his job. In a free society, anyone is free to disagree with him–but the mainstream media should not behave as the thought police censoring the views with which they disagree.

And, as PC enforcers often forget, tolerance is a two-way street.

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[I]t was Quran-burning pastor Terry Jones who got me interested.

“If a homosexual expresses his opinion, he is praised. When Muslims demand that we appease them in their religious traditions, our country bends over backwards to do that. When people are in our country illegally, they demand benefits that they should not have and do not deserve, again we appease them. And when a United States citizen exercises his first amendment rights, he is immediately condemned by the political system and the news media, with the goal of silencing him, thus stopping him from exercising his first amendment rights.”

Apart from the usual fallacy about “the First Amendment” protecting anyone from any consequences for what they say, ever, isn’t that basically right? The Duck Dynasty cast was a little island in the great culture war ocean, a collection of white Southerners whom liberals could love. They were even invited to the 2012 White House Correspondents’ Dinner! They didn’t sign up for this on the condition that they moderate their beliefs. But they got punished anyway, and presto, yet another semi-enjoyable aspect of life becomes tinder for culture warfare and fundraising. First chicken sandwiches, then duck calls—what next?

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The Duck Dynasty brand is down-home social conservatism and Bible worship. Many people tune in for the stars’ humor and fearlessness; but many Americans appreciate their value system (however many of us may disagree with it).

A&E knew what they were getting when they put Robertson and his clan on the air, and they shouldn’t act surprised when the patriarch freely expresses his opinion on sensitive matters like homosexuality. No one tunes into Duck Dynasty expecting “enlightened” “east-coast” thought on matters of sexuality; and we shouldn’t be so outraged when Robertson says exactly what you’d expect him to say as to silence him.

Speaking out and ridiculing Robertson’s views on homosexuality is a much more effective way of changing the culture than forcing him to shut up and sit in the corner.

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When you consider the more effete, cosmopolitan America that “Pajama Boy” represents, you’ll get a sense for why the Duck Dynasty folks are out of touch with today’s acceptable norms. There is a huge schism between red state America and blue state America, and these two stories seem to symbolize the yawning chasm…

It has as much to do with class and geography and culture and attitude as it does with religion.

Politics and reality TV are increasingly causing these two worlds to clash. Until we find a way to domesticate these guys with the gun racks in their pickup trucks, I suspect this will be a recurring story.

There really are two Americas.

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All we’re seeing here is the effect of cultural isolation. The only thing I find objectionable about it – and it is objectionable – is the reduction of gay people and our relationships to sex acts. Mr Robertson would not be happy – indeed, rightly be extremely offended – if I reduced his entire family life and marriage to sex with a vagina.

But look: I come back to what I said at the beginning. Robertson is a character in a reality show. He’s not a spokesman for A&E any more than some soul-sucking social x-ray from the Real Housewives series is a spokeswoman for Bravo. Is he being fired for being out of character? Nah. He’s being fired for staying in character – a character A&E have nurtured and promoted and benefited from. Turning around and demanding a Duck Dynasty star suddenly become the equivalent of a Rachel Maddow guest is preposterous and unfair.

What Phil Robertson has given A&E is a dose of redneck reality. Why on earth would they fire him for giving some more?

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If you lived in the South and went to pieces every time you heard a Southerner of that generation say something that offends contemporary sensitivities, you’d never get out of bed. I’d wager that it’s true in most parts of this country — and of all kinds of people. This past summer I spoke to a young black woman in my own town about local politics. I told her how shocked I was to go to meetings of the parish council, and to hear the most paranoid racist things coming out of the mouths of older black people. She told me that she had grown up hearing that sort of thing — just like I did. I was taken aback by what I heard in those meetings, but when I thought about it, how could I expect black men and women who had had their racial opinions formed by what they had been taught, and what they had seen, during the Jim Crow era to think differently? It’s right to hope that they see the change, and resist judging all white people today by the standards of 40 years ago and more, but how realistic is that? How realistic is it to expect that of country people, black and white, who live in more of a monoculture than many others do?

It must be said that one of the most irritating aspects of the New York media environment is how narrow and monocultural it is, while flattering itself that it is cosmopolitan, diverse, and tolerant. You think Phil Robertson is bigoted? I have been around and worked with liberals in Washington and New York and elsewhere whose opinions were so obnoxious and dismissive of those not like themselves that they make the Duck Commander sound like Dick Cavett.

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Yesterday evening, when I defended Robertson, Twitter users were quick to point out that A&E has to react to its own corporate interests — and to those of its advertisers and customers. This, of course, is true. But pointing this out doesn’t make the problem go away, it just transfers the criticism from A&E to the culture at large. If A&E is “understandably” reacting to outside pressure, then that means they’re reacting to a cultural trend. And that trend needs criticizing — and hard. Are viewers really so prissy that they won’t tolerate a man who dissents from the mainstream culture? Duck Dynasty’s ratings certainly don’t suggest so. Are people who find his views abhorrent incapable of turning off their televisions?

Was A&E really unaware that he believed these things? Is the aim here to normalize all television to prevailing norms, allowing only those views that society’s tailwinds have approved to prevail and shedding all other views? I hope not. What sort of culture will we have if people can’t be different without fear of suspension? What sort of society will we produce if religious people can’t say what they believe? Evidently, there are swaths of the American population — and people of all other nationalities, too — who agree with Robertson. Are we going to liquidate them from the public square?

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I can’t imagine living in a world where everyone agreed with me. How tedious. But that is apparently what progressives demand.

The Left started the culture war, won it resoundingly, and now they’re roaming the country shooting the wounded survivors. Instead of allowing dissent, they conduct blasphemy trials demanding public recantations and penance. They accuse conservatives of being Puritans, but they’re the ones with the torches and buckled hats.

I don’t agree with everything said by Phil Robertson or Penn Jillette or Neil Patrick Harris or Patton Oswalt or anyone else. And I’m fine with that. I still would love to share a meal with any one of them.

So, lefties, give Phil Robertson a break. It’s not like he said Santa was white.

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It is a simple and sad fact that America is already not-watching CNN, MSNBC, Jon Stewart, and others, but they still have an impact because Big Entertainment makes billions from bundled cable and can therefore afford to keep them on the air. The left-wing monopoly on our culture is subsidized not by popular acclaim but by bundled cable.

This means that boycotting or not-watching A&E is not going to matter a whole lot to A&E.

If you want to really hurt A&E, you are forced to go to the extreme of canceling the entire cable package that comes with A&E, and that could mean losing channels you do like and want to support. It might even mean cutting the cord entirely and having no cable television. And if you do cancel your cable, be sure to tell them why, because a lot of people are cutting the cord these days.

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But things are complicated by the fact that progressive activists and agitators aren’t interested in comity or stasis or accommodation. Instead, they view division and conflict as necessary steps to achieve their progressive goals (which seem to be the dismantling of any traditional value or institution.)…

At some point, this became a zero-sum game. You’re either in the “Duck Dynasty” camp or the “Pajama Boy” camp. Somebody will lose.

No matter how hard you try, you simply cannot be a conscientious objector in the culture war.

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Via Breitbart.


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I Recently reread Neuromancer from Gibson’s Sprawl Trilogy, I really need to get the other two books.

Murphy9 on December 20, 2013 at 2:01 AM

“Neuromancer” and “Burning Chrome” are fantastic…….other than those, I find Gibson a little incoherent most of the time….

williamg on December 20, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Oh – “BISSSSSHOP!!!”

williamg on December 20, 2013 at 2:17 AM

A&E is owned by Disney/ABC and Hearst in a 50-50 deal, so it’s MSM through and through.

If Walt Disney came back to life and saw what they’ve done with his company and family-oriented theme parks, there would be dozens of cracked heads.

Adjoran on December 20, 2013 at 2:28 AM

Thanks for the recommendation. I’m familiar with the paper. Spent 5 days camping up in NY after driving 26 hours straight in my friends ’59 bug. Phish played 3 shows a day for 3 days. No piss brother action, but it was incredible! 70,000+ people on a mothballed air force air strip! I was never all that into the band, but their performances are awesome.

Murphy9 on December 20, 2013 at 2:58 AM

Dire Straits was here..:)

Dire Straits on December 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM

I want a bumper stick that reads, “I Stand With Duck Dynasty.”

Or “Duck Dynasty 1, Progressives 0.”

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 4:19 AM

I will never kneel before Pajama Boy. Never!!

TarheelBen on December 20, 2013 at 4:35 AM

A&E is code for AXE

SparkPlug on December 20, 2013 at 4:55 AM

What does this mean? Was RWM banned?
blink on December 20, 2013 at 3:42 AM

I hope not!!!

bluegill on December 20, 2013 at 5:20 AM

this is a result of the slippery slope the left has dropped us down and I don’t think we have reached rock bottom yet….

msdnc trashing jindal and palin for getting into this controversy, natch

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 5:22 AM

Morning cmsinaz! I take mine black as midnight on a moonless night.

Murphy9 on December 20, 2013 at 5:27 AM

Millions of Americans who had their health plans cancelled will be exempt from the Obamacare individual mandate, the administration said Thursday

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/white-house-obamacare-affordable-care-act-canceled-plans-101355.html#ixzz2o0fOUBmm

pre christmas news dump???

epic fail…but its ok dear leader can change the law anyway he sees fit apparently (imagine if W tried to do this)

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 5:30 AM

Murphy9 on December 20, 2013 at 5:27 AM

morning M9…coming right up…perking as we write :)

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 5:31 AM

pre christmas news dump???

epic fail…but its ok dear leader can change the law anyway he sees fit apparently (imagine if W tried to do this)

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 5:30 AM

At first, I thought these clowns would drop this on Christmas Eve at about 9 pm PST. Then, I remembered that they have some bogus December 23rd deadline that they were never going to meet. All the same, I’m not sure why they didn’t dump it today at about 7:00.

I guess they want it baked in today’s news cycle and in tonight’s nightly news–and all while Congress is pretty much gone from DC–so that they get the media to clamor how awesome they are without any opposing voices.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 5:38 AM

pre christmas news dump???

epic fail…but its ok dear leader can change the law anyway he sees fit apparently (imagine if W tried to do this)

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 5:30 AM

At first, I thought these clowns would drop this on Christmas Eve at about 9 pm PST. Then, I remembered that they have some bogus December 23rd deadline that they were never going to meet. All the same, I’m not sure why they didn’t dump it today at about 7:00.

I guess they want it baked in today’s news cycle and in tonight’s nightly news–and all while Congress is pretty much gone from DC–so that they get the media to clamor how awesome they are without any opposing voices.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 5:38 AM

Sorry for the double post. Don’t know how that happened.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 5:39 AM

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 5:38 AM

good point…but then again the lsm has no problem with the changes made by this president, now if a gop president was constantly changing the law the 24/7 outrage would be front and center….

no worries, do you want a cup of coffee as well? its a dark roast :)

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 5:42 AM

Beck practically said “You going to take that? I wouldn’t take that if I were you.” He can taste the duck on the blaze. He’s actually drooling.

DFCtomm on December 20, 2013 at 5:56 AM

white house insists less than 500,000 have lost their coverage due to obamacare….

i don’t trust them at all…another lie imho

the wh just kneecapped the insurance companies
-morning joe

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 6:05 AM

this white house decision just helped every democrat until after the 2014 election with this delay
-morning joe

the white house is allowed to make these changes
-al hunt
(just wait until a gop president tries it)

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 6:09 AM

christie to sign a NJ dream act

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 6:12 AM

Does anyone actually know what the law is now? Does anyone know what they are to comply with?

esr1951 on December 20, 2013 at 6:12 AM

esr1951 on December 20, 2013 at 6:12 AM

great question…

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 6:15 AM

Does anyone actually know what the law is now? Does anyone know what they are to comply with?
esr1951 on December 20, 2013 at 6:12 AM

Let’s check your NSA dossier and find out…

Murphy9 on December 20, 2013 at 6:23 AM

Speaking out and ridiculing Robertson’s views on homosexuality

not seeing much to ridicule.

Lonetown on December 20, 2013 at 6:29 AM

Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare’s Insurance Mandate, ‘Unaffordable’ Exchanges

It’s hard to come up with new ways to describe the Obama administration’s improvisational approach to the Affordable Care Act’s troubled health insurance exchanges. But last night, the White House made its most consequential announcement yet. The administration will grant a “hardship exemption” from the law’s individual mandate, requiring the purchase of health insurance, to anyone who has had their prior coverage canceled and who “believes” that Obamacare’s offerings “are unaffordable.” These exemptions will substantially alter the architecture of the law’s insurance marketplaces. Insurers are at their wits’ end, trying to make sense of what to do next.

kcewa on December 20, 2013 at 6:33 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And, Trolls.

Free speech is an endangered species. Those “intolerants” hatin’ and taking on the Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing his personal opinion are taking on all of us.

– Sarah Palin, 12/19/13
My take: “Duck Dynasty, Pajama Boy, and America’s Self-Righteous Liberal Elite: The New Pharisees”

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 6:35 AM

good point…but then again the lsm has no problem with the changes made by this president, now if a gop president was constantly changing the law the 24/7 outrage would be front and center….

no worries, do you want a cup of coffee as well? its a dark roast :)

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 5:42 AM

Thank you, but I just brewed my own. It’s only Folgers. (I save my good stuff–Dunkin’ Donuts–for weekends.)

On the insurance topic, this is truly banana republic stuff. This is chaos.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 6:40 AM

these exemptions will substantially alter the architecture of the law’s insurance marketplaces. Insurers are at their wits’ end, trying to make sense of what to do next.

Well, there ya go.

esr1951 on December 20, 2013 at 6:43 AM

OT: Boehner should call back the House, pass a bill titled “Let’s Start Over.” It would repeal Obamacare, stop payment on all federal checks going to contractors developing healthcare.gov, and enact some straightforward incremental reforms.

In a second bill, the House should sunset the age 26 insurance provision. Call it the “Pajama Boy Sunset” bill.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 6:44 AM

mika agreeing with Jindal’s remarks….wow

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 6:44 AM

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 6:40 AM

good deal :)

epic chaos methinks…and yet the dems whine—my heart breaks for them….not

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 6:46 AM

I sense a new theme. For both the law and morality, just do whatever feels good. There is nothing external we need to comply with, legally or morally. Hallelujah.

esr1951 on December 20, 2013 at 6:47 AM

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 6:35 AM

excellent take KJ
read it folks

and cuda does rock that camo shirt….

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 6:48 AM

morning joe crew finally talking about duck dynasty…

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 6:49 AM

MSNBC panel: Mika, Joe, Matt Lewis, Julie Pace (some AP reporter who appears on Special Report’s panel), Willie, and Al Hunt. They also have MSNBC’s masculine-looking gay guy Thomas Robertson lurking from a remote location.

What could go wrong?

Robertson: lauding his ipad gift from his husband. Citing Leviticus about shellfish, tattoes, he’s outrageously outraged. He’s even offended that ducks are lured to an untimely death.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 6:55 AM

thomas roberts bashing palin, natch

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 6:55 AM

Robertson tried to equate Robertson and Martin Bashir.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 6:57 AM

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 6:48 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 6:57 AM

pre christmas news dump???

epic fail…but its ok dear leader can change the law anyway he sees fit apparently (imagine if W tried to do this)

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 5:30 AM

Nope. Pre-”I’m leaving for Hawaii tomorrow, so I had better get this out tonight.” dump.

As always, it is all about the optics.

Does any part of this law still stand as written? Who died and made him boss of changing laws as he sees fit? When are the insurance companies going to wake up, grow a spine, and say enough is enough!

herm2416 on December 20, 2013 at 6:57 AM

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 6:55 AM

he sounds pathetic

trying to compare robertson and bashir and why palin didn’t defend bashir…

ummmm i didn’t hear any msdnc folks defending bashir either champ

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 6:57 AM

Mika is really upset now about how he discussed homosexuality in such an offensive way.

But isn’t sodomy, by definition, disgusting and offensive?

The segment turned into a minor free-for-all pitting Mika against Joe.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 6:59 AM

herm2416 on December 20, 2013 at 6:57 AM

ahhh yeah the hawaii yearly trip…

i don’t think anyone knows anymore about this law….its worse than the US tax code methinks

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 7:00 AM

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 6:59 AM

sure did

the hypocrisy is clear and joe called it out…

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 7:01 AM

Sorry, leaving the thread because the Laura Ingraham interview won’t stop playing, though all the other vids are blocked.

C’mon, Hot Air, get it together.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 7:01 AM

Joe thinks a&e is going to invite the dd crew back…..I hope they tell them to pound sand

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 7:11 AM

Ted Cruz wins (with the latest delay)
-joe
What?
-mika

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 7:12 AM

Oh, KJ, one of your best ever! I don’t say that lightly!

herm2416 on December 20, 2013 at 7:13 AM

Will there be a single person forced to pay the $95 penalty
Chuck todd

We can answer that for you…..

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 7:17 AM

herm2416 on December 20, 2013 at 7:13 AM

Thank you very much. Feel free to share. Thank you for reading!

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 7:24 AM

Filtered twice, now. Testing.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 7:26 AM

OT but related: Brian Boitano now says he’s gay.

Who knew?

I twice tried to provide a link to a great Sports Illustrated cover from February 1988.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 7:27 AM

Mika is really upset now about how he discussed homosexuality in such an offensive way.

But isn’t sodomy, by definition, disgusting and offensive?

The segment turned into a minor free-for-all pitting Mika against Joe.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 6:59 AM

Describing gay male sex in physical & Biblical terms=offensive…these are people are nuts! If Mika really wants to be offended, someone needs to discuss Mohammed/the Koran/Islam around her.

Between Pajama Boy, A&E’s stupidity about DD, and these newest Democrat/ChoomCare revisions, we have gotten some early Christmas presents! :)

Anti-Control on December 20, 2013 at 7:28 AM

*these are people are nuts!

Anti-Control on December 20, 2013 at 7:29 AM

OT: Mika and Matthews are demanding that Obama “make Healthcare work.”

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 7:36 AM

OT but related: Brian Boitano now says he’s gay.

Who knew?

I twice tried to provide a link to a great Sports Illustrated cover from February 1988.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 7:27 AM

I presume you used the SI site – it’s really CNN, and such links are not allowed at HA. You have to use a service like TinyURL to get around the restriction.

Boitano Sports Illustrated cover from February 1988

Anti-Control on December 20, 2013 at 7:37 AM

Buckeye… the last of the die hard obamabots?

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 7:38 AM

Thank you very much. Feel free to share. Thank you for reading!

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 7:24 AM

Heh, already shared with a multitude! : ))))))

OT but related: Brian Boitano now says he’s gay.

Who knew?

I twice tried to provide a link to a great Sports Illustrated cover from February 1988.

BuckeyeSam on December 20, 2013 at 7:27 AM

Those of us who skated with him knew that, years ago. All of us girls knew that, without speaking the words (remember when good manners were common?) It was a no brainer. It is kind of duplicitous to highlight this now. Why do people feel the need to share what they do behind closed doors? I’ve never understood that. What does he gain from this personally, besides being used by the agenda-driven White House?

herm2416 on December 20, 2013 at 7:44 AM

Why do people here watch MSNBC?

Mr. Arrogant on December 20, 2013 at 7:44 AM

kcewa on December 20, 2013 at 6:33 AM

This is a blatant admission of complete, abject failure. Finally.

Let’s scrap FourZeroFourCare now.

It’s an EpicClusterFarkNado even the white house admits it.

dogsoldier on December 20, 2013 at 7:44 AM

Have you bought your office duck call yet?

dogsoldier on December 20, 2013 at 7:50 AM

This is a blatant admission of complete, abject failure. Finally.

Let’s scrap FourZeroFourCare now.

It’s an EpicClusterFarkNado even the white house admits it.

dogsoldier on December 20, 2013 at 7:44 AM

How much would you bet me that they won’t verbally admit they’ve been wrong? :)

Democrat/ChoomCare has already cost our country/economy 10s of billions of dollars, and it’s not really even off the launchpad yet. It is not going to be around much longer…

Anti-Control on December 20, 2013 at 7:52 AM

Mr A….so you don’t have to :)

cmsinaz on December 20, 2013 at 8:04 AM

Anti-Control on December 20, 2013 at 7:52 AM

I won’t take that bet!

I did order my office duck call. Cube farm quacker. Heh

dogsoldier on December 20, 2013 at 8:06 AM

Anti-Control on December 20, 2013 at 7:52 AM

It’s crumbling apart. ho is left that the mandate actually applies to?

The four of us that still have jobs? Well that will be -1 after next week.

dogsoldier on December 20, 2013 at 8:08 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And, Trolls.

Free speech is an endangered species. Those “intolerants” hatin’ and taking on the Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing his personal opinion are taking on all of us.

– Sarah Palin, 12/19/13
My take: “Duck Dynasty, Pajama Boy, and America’s Self-Righteous Liberal Elite: The New Pharisees”

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 6:35 AM

…so good…I went over it twice!

KOOLAID2 on December 20, 2013 at 8:13 AM

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 6:35 AM

Well written as usual KJ.

Gah, I hate my typos:
dogsoldier on December 20, 2013 at 8:08 AM

“ho” should read “who”

dogsoldier on December 20, 2013 at 8:18 AM

I won’t take that bet!

I did order my office duck call. Cube farm quacker. Heh

dogsoldier on December 20, 2013 at 8:06 AM

:)

It’s crumbling apart. ho is left that the mandate actually applies to?

Good question! This has become a bigger joke than before…

The four of us that still have jobs? Well that will be -1 after next week.

dogsoldier on December 20, 2013 at 8:08 AM

:(

Anti-Control on December 20, 2013 at 8:39 AM

The Left started the culture war, won it resoundingly, and now they’re roaming the country shooting the wounded survivors. Instead of allowing dissent, they conduct blasphemy trials demanding public recantations and penance. They accuse conservatives of being Puritans, but they’re the ones with the torches and buckled hats.

I know a bunch of “wounded survivors” that aren’t gonna just lay down and take another shot. Figuratively speaking, of course.

BigAlSouth on December 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM

“Many people ask, “How does gay marriage negatively impact me?” New Jersey lawmakers just proved it’s a lie to say all same-sex marriage advocates merely want a “live and let live” legal environment.

Legislators pulled their pending bill to legalize same-sex marriage in the Garden State in response to its supporters’ demand to strip the bill of language that would allow Christians and other people of faith to decline to recognize gay marriages on religious grounds.

New Jersey’s legislature is moving a bill to redefine marriage to include same-sex couples. Although likely to pass, Democratic Senate Majority Leader Loretta Weinberg pulled the bill that she was supporting because of objections from gay-rights organizations such as Lamba Legal.

The reason? Weinberg explained, “They don’t want any kind of religious exemption, so out of respect for that, I will [pull the bill] (emphasis added).” The bill would have allowed houses of worship and people of faith, such as churches and observant Christians, to decline to participate in any way with gay marriage. In a state where they can have their way, some gay-rights supporters are demanding that the law allow for full and vigorous prosecution under anti-discrimination and public-accommodation laws of anyone who will not embrace and celebrate homosexual marriage…”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/18/War-on-Christians-in-New-Jersey

workingclass artist on December 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM

By now, you are probably wondering why I would call America’s Liberal Elite “Pharisees”.

KJ, dead on the money.

Liberal Elite = Pharisees

BigAlSouth on December 20, 2013 at 8:48 AM

People can’t handle the truth and Phil shoved it in their faces. What is it exactly about gay male sex that Mika doesn’t get. Phil was quoting from 1st Corinthians 6:9 and he did not say that homosexuality and bestiality are the same thing. People were so quick to jump on these comments it’s almost as if this was a scheduled event and they had their talking points handed to them the day before.

Kissmygrits on December 20, 2013 at 9:01 AM

HUAH! The Duck Dynasty clan has announced they will NOT proceed with the show without their patriarch/ So, by bowing to minority public pressure A&E just (potentially) lost it’s (& America’s) #1 (reality) show and all the revenue the Clan has made for A&E.

A&E, you better start back peddling and kissin’ some Duck butt or either, in the words of Nancy Pelosi, “Embrace the suck!”

easyt65 on December 20, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Anti-Control on December 20, 2013 at 8:39 AM

That’s ok. I will have time to devote to my writing and maybe I’ll break out my cameras and take some Duck Pictures!

dogsoldier on December 20, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Keep in mind the commie enabling msm will do any thing to help hide the decline due to the crime of Obama Careless.

They will use this to change the subject to help get the base of the Donks back in the game.

Phil and his bunch can handle this.

The show is gold and they know it, there will be many places and methods to push the show higher than it is now.

Stay on subject. The crimes on going with the Obama Careless commie cult of health control of U.S. by commies at the IRS and those who hate U.S. as a free country.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 20, 2013 at 9:43 AM

When you tear out a man’s tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you’re only telling the world that you fear what he might say.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on December 20, 2013 at 10:01 AM

People can’t handle the truth and Phil shoved it in their faces. What is it exactly about gay male sex that Mika doesn’t get. Phil was quoting from 1st Corinthians 6:9 and he did not say that homosexuality and bestiality are the same thing. People were so quick to jump on these comments it’s almost as if this was a scheduled event and they had their talking points handed to them the day before.

Kissmygrits on December 20, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Exactly. But just to be fair, what most people don’t understand is that the verses regarding the sinfulness of homosexuality and bestiality are right next to each other…

21 “‘Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord.

22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

23 “‘Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.

24 “‘Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. 25 Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. 26 But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the foreigners residing among you must not do any of these detestable things, 27 for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. 28 And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you.

Leviticus 18:21-28

The sins described here are the sacrificing of children (like abortion today), homosexuality and bestiality.

The “punishing” of the “native-born” is a description of the complete destruction that God ordered on those who already dwelt in the “promised land”. God commanded their death and destruction because of their sinful deeds. We in America should take heed of how God truly views the sinfulness in a culture…

dominigan on December 20, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Headline: Six-Year-Old Boy Drops F-Word (“Fart”) on Aging Blind Woman On 3rd Ave El.

New York(AP) – Last evening a six-year-old boy was taken into custody by local and federal law enforcement for using the f-word (“fart”) to an aging blind woman on a crowded subway train in front of dozens of offended witnesses. The f-word is a clear anti-homophobic slur used by kindergarten and elementary school-aged children to mimic and mock the purported sound of a [deleted] being removed from a [deleted].

The aggrevieved woman stated that she was not sure the boy made eye contact with her but was certain that the boy was referencing her when he uttered the word, as she pointed out that she had just recently passed gas as a result of an over-cooked egg which she had eaten in a bowl of pho.

Authorities are considering filing hate crime charges against the child and his parents and the boy has been removed from his family and placed temporarily into protective foster housing.

Searches of the boy’s home computer, which were confiscated by authorities in a late-night SWAT raid on his parents’ home, indicate that he once made reference to “Obama” which is a racist slur currently employed against the President of the United States. Authorities say that the raid was executed without incident and that few shots were fired and even less were necessary, noting that the parents and the boy’s siblings were cooperating with the investigation. Sources who wish to remain anonymous say that non-anti-homophobia/hate charges are being considered against the boy.

NAMBLA spokesman Fill Ailworth commented that the word “fart” represents an odious, foul, harmful and hurtful stigma associated with the colon, which is a matter of deep concern for anti-homophobic Americans, and which must be expelled from American discourse. Though he feels fondly for the boy Ailworth sees the need to punish the boy to set an example for future behavior which might enflame the sensibilities of homosexuals, their partners and society as a whole.

flicker on December 20, 2013 at 10:38 AM

We are living in an alternate universe. Gays make up about 2% of the population of the US Christians are about 85%. Why is this group getting to dictate to the majority what is vile or not, forcing photographers and bakers to cater their ceremonies etc. What Phil Robertson said was based on scripture. He used a crude analogy but the gist of it is that the bible condemns homosexuality. If homosexuals can’t handle that then thats tough. I stand with Phil.

neyney on December 20, 2013 at 10:52 AM

“We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.”

― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

stenwin77 on December 20, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Have you read any other heinlein? if so would you recommend another one? I really need to find some books to read.

I Recently reread Neuromancer from Gibson’s Sprawl Trilogy, I really need to get the other two books.

Murphy9 on December 20, 2013 at 2:01 AM

Get yourself a copy of ‘Starship Troopers’. You’ll love it and it’s nothing like the stupid movie they made of it.

Also, try ‘The Forever War’ by Joe Haldeman.

You’re welcome. :-)

trigon on December 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Free speech is an endangered species. Those “intolerants” hatin’ and taking on the Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing his personal opinion are taking on all of us.
– Sarah Palin

There is no free speech issue here.
Phil and Palin are free to say whatever they want.
Palin seems to feel that for anyone to use their free speech to be critical of the speech of others is some how an infringement.
That is as illogical is it is dimwitted.
A&E is free to say whatever they want – and they’re also free to make their own decisions about their own business. (In this case, they made a stupid one – in my opinion).

verbaluce on December 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM

“Calling all Ducks”

“Calling all Ducks”

Stand with all Ducks.

Get your Duck Call Now.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 20, 2013 at 12:20 PM

“Calling all Ducks”

“Calling all Ducks”

Stand with all Ducks.

Get your Duck Call Now.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 20, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Is that call ‘Quacks’?

Merry Christmas, APACHEWHOKNOWS!

verbaluce on December 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Liberals preach ‘tolerance’ until they become dominant, have (even the perception of) ther upper hand, THEN they try to SILENCE every other opinion / voice. This is just another example.

It is time for Americans to declare in 1 unanimus voice, “NO MORE!”

easyt65 on December 20, 2013 at 12:46 PM

In New York several years ago an ‘artist’ put on display a sculpture of Mary…covered in elephant dung. Christians were outraged and complained. Liberals declared, “You have to be tolerant.” The display remained. In another case, another Liberal ‘artist’ plased a cross in a jar of urine. Christians again complained. Liberals again demanded Christians quiet down & be more tolerant – then gave the ‘artist’ an award for his cr@p.

QUESTION: Would these same Liberal ‘artists’ cover a statue of Mohammed in elephant dung and place it in a prominent museum?

ANSWER: NO! The uproar about offending Muslims (& Islamic Extremists) would be so loud it would never be allowed to go up to begin with! Part of that decision would be based on the knowledge that Muslims/Islamic Extremists would march on the museum, become extremely violent, flags would be burned, Americans attacked & killed, and the museum would probably be burned. Christians, however – as opposed to Muslims – ARE tolerant, and Liberals know Christians are fair game because they won’t become violent. So much for ‘tolerance’.

QUESTION: Would Liberals allow a statue of Martin Luther King be covered with elephant dung or placed in a vat or urine and displayed?

ANSWER: NO! The atist would branded as a racist, the New Black Panthers would cause trouble, and there would be attacks on whites or others. So much for ‘tolerance’.

easyt65 on December 20, 2013 at 12:55 PM

There is no free speech issue here.
Phil and Palin are free to say whatever they want.
Palin seems to feel that for anyone to use their free speech to be critical of the speech of others is some how an infringement.
That is as illogical is it is dimwitted.
A&E is free to say whatever they want – and they’re also free to make their own decisions about their own business. (In this case, they made a stupid one – in my opinion).

verbaluce on December 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Yes and no. While there is no government intervention or suppression here (as an aside isn’t the media now an arm of the Obama regime, but I digress), there is still the angry mob of the PC God out there with their torches and pitchforks howling about “tolerance”.

There is no “free” speech in society. It is groupthink and if you step away from the “correct” way of thinking you get shunned and harrassed into oblivion. This is so others see the consequences of having an opinion that is “incorrect”.

You should be worried. Things usually change so eventually there will be a new regime and a new way of groupthink and you had better hope you’re on the side of angels.

Then again, you’ll probably be fine. Liberals really have no standards or principles beyond themselves.

kim roy on December 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Murphy9 on December 20, 2013 at 2:01 AM

Heinlein’s “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress” and “The cat that walked through walls.”

dogsoldier on December 20, 2013 at 1:02 PM

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 6:35 AM

Great article! Shared it on my Twitter account, if you don’t mind.

Sterling Holobyte on December 20, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Then again, you’ll probably be fine. Liberals really have no standards or principles beyond themselves.

kim roy on December 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Your ad hominem is also protected speech.

verbaluce on December 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM

From Breitbart:

New Jersey’s legislature is moving a bill to redefine marriage to include same-sex couples. Although likely to pass, Democratic Senate Majority Leader Loretta Weinberg pulled the bill that she was supporting because of objections from gay-rights organizations such as Lamba Legal.

The reason? Weinberg explained, “They don’t want any kind of religious exemption, so out of respect for that, I will [pull the bill] (emphasis added).” The bill would have allowed houses of worship and people of faith, such as churches and observant Christians, to decline to participate in any way with gay marriage. In a state where they can have their way, some gay-rights supporters are demanding that the law allow for full and vigorous prosecution under anti-discrimination and public-accommodation laws of anyone who will not embrace and celebrate homosexual marriage.

The tolerance of gay people.

magicbeans on December 20, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Your ad hominem is also protected speech.

verbaluce on December 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Noted that you can’t deal with the comment itself, only complain about the delivery (of which you are incorrect about, but you continue to delude yourself).

kim roy on December 20, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Sterling Holobyte on December 20, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Thank you! Please do.

kingsjester on December 20, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Noted that you can’t deal with the comment itself, only complain about the delivery (of which you are incorrect about, but you continue to delude yourself).

kim roy on December 20, 2013 at 1:18 PM

What’s to ‘deal with’?
I’d say we largely agree. You just felt a need to throw in some attack about ‘principles’.
I consider myself principled and I imagine you consider yourself principled as well. I wouldn’t say all on my side of any given issue are…would be absurd for you to make such a claim for folks on your side.
Palin isn’t defending speech. She’s exploiting an opp with her base. I’m sure she’ll be throwing out this same statement the next time some Islamic fundamentalist offers up some crass opinions he holds because of, you know, his faith….right?
/

verbaluce on December 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

What’s to ‘deal with’?
I’d say we largely agree. You just felt a need to throw in some attack about ‘principles’.
I consider myself principled and I imagine you consider yourself principled as well. I wouldn’t say all on my side of any given issue are…would be absurd for you to make such a claim for folks on your side.
Palin isn’t defending speech. She’s exploiting an opp with her base. I’m sure she’ll be throwing out this same statement the next time some Islamic fundamentalist offers up some crass opinions he holds because of, you know, his faith….right?
/

verbaluce on December 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Being a progressive who’s self-absorbed isn’t “principles”. Sorry.

kim roy on December 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM

What’s to ‘deal with’?
I’d say we largely agree. You just felt a need to throw in some attack about ‘principles’.
I consider myself principled and I imagine you consider yourself principled as well. I wouldn’t say all on my side of any given issue are…would be absurd for you to make such a claim for folks on your side.
Palin isn’t defending speech. She’s exploiting an opp with her base. I’m sure she’ll be throwing out this same statement the next time some Islamic fundamentalist offers up some crass opinions he holds because of, you know, his faith….right?
/

verbaluce on December 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Being a progressive who’s self-absorbed isn’t “principles”. Sorry.

kim roy on December 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM

I hardly think Palin thinks of herself as a progressive.

verbaluce on December 20, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Free speech is an endangered species. Those “intolerants” hatin’ and taking on the Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing his personal opinion are taking on all of us.
– Sarah Palin

There is no free speech issue here.
. . .

verbaluce on December 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM

I thing that everyone here (except you) understand that the “free speech” context Palin refers to is “freedom from consequences” speech and not government censorship “free speech.”

There is a difference, don’t you agree?

BigAlSouth on December 20, 2013 at 2:49 PM

thing/think

BigAlSouth on December 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM

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