Poll: Nearly five years into Obama’s presidency, most Americans still blame Bush for economic problems

posted at 3:21 pm on December 19, 2013 by Allahpundit

John Sexton flagged this tidbit from WaPo’s new poll two days ago, then WaPo itself paid some attention to it today. I’ve written about this phenomenon more than once before myself. Simple question: When, oh when, will public sentiment shift to the point where Obama owns the economy?

Increasingly, it seems like never.

Nearly five years after George W. Bush left office, half the public still blames the former president for the nation’s economic woes, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll released this week. The survey comes as Republicans have continued to keep the 43rd president at arm’s length…

Fifty percent of Americans say Bush is more responsible for the country’s current economic problems than President Obama, the Post-ABC poll shows. Just 38 percent hold Obama more responsible. Seven percent assign equal blame.

In nearly two years of of Post-ABC surveys, opinions have barely budged.

“Barely budged” is right. Here’s what the trends on Bush’s culpability among Democrats, Republicans, and independents look like in WaPo polls since the beginning of 2012:

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Democratic and Republican numbers have hardly moved in nearly two years. Independents have dipped a bit, from 57 percent in January 2012 to 48 percent now, but that’s still 10 points higher than the number of indies who blame Obama for the country’s economic problems. Static polling on this subject isn’t unique to WaPo, either. Here are two data sets from Gallup and Quinnipiac, respectively, that I flagged last year in another post marveling at how little volatility there was on the blame question:


I used to think the stasis was a function of partisanship hardening during an election year and that, if O got reelected, his culpability for the economy would start to climb this year. Nope. I also thought that Bush would fare better with younger adults since the youngest of them might not remember his presidency as well and would be inclined to blame O by default. Big nope there too:

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Older voters are more likely to blame Obama. The 40-64 demographic says Bush deserves more culpability, but by only a 48/40 spread, and the 65+ crowd actually puts O ahead of Bush, 46/43. That’s in line with younger voters skewing more left and older voters skewing more right. Here, as in so much else, partisan perceptions color a lot.

But it’s not just partisanship or else indies would be more evenly split than they are. There are two factors locking the numbers in, I think. One, obviously, is that the financial crisis happened on Bush’s watch and the country has yet to enjoy a stretch of sustained prosperity since. You can argue that we would have had that stretch if not for the genius of Obamanomics and hiring chaos created by ObamaCare’s employer mandate, but that’s not how the average person sees it, I suspect. They see it more as Bush having let the country fall into a hole so deep that we’ve yet to dig our way out. That’s why even independents, who lean right on so many other issues, are closer to the Democratic view here. Two: O’s got the bully pulpit on this. Whatever you think of Democratic mumbling about income inequality and minimum-wage hikes (which are hugely popular with voters), those are vivid, relatively easily grasped concepts that people can apply to economic problems and Obama hasn’t been shy about touting them lately. The GOP has no similarly accessible narrative, just overregulation and “uncertainty.” If you’re an undecided with no strong political leanings who’s having a tough go in the economy, which magic-bullet explanation would appeal more to you?

Exit question: What’ll these numbers look like in 2016? Gulp.


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Oh well. Dog Eater is the man now, ask him how to fix things.

Bishop on December 19, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Couple of quick questions to the WaPo:

1. What was the Democrat oversample on this “poll”?

2. Did you folks do similar “polls” 5 years after Democrat Presidents like Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton left office?

I can actually answer the second question-shortly after the original 9/11, a couple of “polls” showed that more Americans blamed the attacks on Bill Clinton than on George Bush.

That “poll question” was then immediately abandoned, and never asked again.

Del Dolemonte on December 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

A large percentage of Americans I dare say are low information voters.

Logus on December 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Kinda like how “most” Americans want to raise the minimum wage. America is economically illiterate.

Thanks a bunch, public education.

Bitter Clinger on December 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

They see it more as Bush having let the country fall into a hole so deep that we’ve yet to dig our way out.

But what about that roaring recovery we constantly hear the Democrats talking about? I mean our Unemployment is almost down to six percent!

Ukiah on December 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Poll: Nearly five years into Obama’s presidency, most Americans still blame Bush for economic problems eat bath salts for breakfast

Fixed. And the people being polled are whatever the level beyond weapons grade stupid is.

Physics Geek on December 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Only a lad
You really can’t blame him
Only a lad
Society made him
Only a lad
He’s our responsibility
Only a lad
He really couldn’t help it
Only a lad
He didn’t want to do it
Only a lad
He’s underprivileged and abused
Perhaps a little bit confused

Christien on December 19, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Didn’t see the word “media” once in Mr. Pundit’s post.
Not surprising.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on December 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Essentially, this is a report that the MSM Disinformation Campaign is still influencing nearly half of the U.S. population.

jaydee_007 on December 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Bush deserves some blame, especially for getting this morass going, but Obama has more than had an opportunity to do his part to redirect the course and he instead has made things worse, especially with Obamacare.

Logus on December 19, 2013 at 3:29 PM

WOW! Those are really bad results. If the majority of people think that a President who’s been out of office for 5 years has more effect on the economy than the current one, then what does that say about their belief on Obama’s abilities? It’s either hypocrisy or stupidity. I’m fairly certain Bush has had a better influence on the economy these past 5 years than Obama.

MrX on December 19, 2013 at 3:29 PM

The soft bigotry of low expectations by the low information voters — they simply elected Obama to feel good about themselves and their own racial tolerance.

Blaming Bush allows them to keep putting up the front to pollsters that they didn’t throw their vote away, while at the same time thinking to themselves Obama there as a symbol, not because he’s actually competent enough to solve the problem (though it would be fun to see if people who voted for Obama and are still jobless or underemployed have the same benefit-of-the-doubt feelings about the president).

jon1979 on December 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM

A large percentage of Americans I dare say are low information voters.

Logus on December 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

You’ll find ample evidence of that in the WaPo comments. Some samples:

It’s a shame that 100% of people polled don’t blame Bush for leading us into a terrible economy. Obama has stabilized it, mostly from staying in the center.

(nonpartisan, is that you?)

The war in Iraq was a complete and utter folly, based on lies about WMDs, falsely tied to AlQaeda, and sold to the UN and our allies.

(Wasn’t aware that the UN signed off on the Iraq War. And it was our allies who gave us the intel, not the other way around!)

The Democrats voted and supported the war because they were given doctored evidence, and urged to be patriotic.

(This totally ignores the Fact that Democrat Senator Hillary Clinton said at the time she based her support of the Iraq War on what her husband’s intel people told her, not what Bush’s people told her).

And finally, this bit of Democrat-Fluffing:

The actual plan to get Osama was started by Clinton, he couldn’t do it but the intel structure was actually in place when Clinton left office – Bush ignored it. Bush didn’t even try, and Obama got ‘em…..case closed

(And yet O’bama only got a brief 5 point bump in the “polls” after he used Bush’s intel.)

“IT BURNS!”

Del Dolemonte on December 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM

OT: Obama’s ticks off another item on his agenda – equal rights for Crack Cocaine dealers

President Obama on Thursday commuted the prison terms of eight people sentenced to life in prison or other long sentences for drug crimes.
The commutations are part of the administration’s campaign to roll back inequities in connection with mandatory minimum sentencing, particularly for possession or sale of crack cocaine. Until recently, possession of crack was punished more severely than other forms of cocaine, disproportionately impacting African Americans.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-obama-commutes-sentence-drug-crimes-20131219,0,7146293.story#ixzz2nxEumvHr

kcewa on December 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM

The recession officially ended in June 2009. It’s now December 2013.

At what point does the man who has occupied the WH since January 2009 take accountability and responsibility for the effects HIS policies have had on the economy? After all, he’s made what, 40, 50, 60, 135 pivots to focus all of his attention towards the economy since taking office.

At what point does he own the weakest economic recovery since the Second World War?

Furthermore, when a NYT business reporter writes a book reporting on the cause of the 2008-9 fiscal crisis, and lays the vast majority of the blame on the Democrat / progressive policies of trying to ‘fix’ markets based on their definitions of ‘fairness’ and ‘social justice’, all a poll like this demonstrates is the effectiveness of the lamestream media’s revisionist history and propaganda.

Athos on December 19, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Good job! State Run Media.

d1carter on December 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM

speaking of polls, last night I got the nastiest Cornyn push poll. The guy finally decided to end it when I asked him how he felt about earning his pay that way. The call from NY according to my caller ID.

DanMan on December 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Hmmmm,… I do wonder if the Low Info VoterBot,..is getting
daily messages sent to there ObamaPhones, in order for them/they
and those as TO HOW AND WHAT TO THINK(S)!!

canopfor on December 19, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Meh. The general populace is economically illiterate. They also support increasing the minimum wage.

22044 on December 19, 2013 at 3:34 PM

As always it’s about the question asked.

There is no doubt in my mind, rightly or wrongly, that Bush will be the Hoover of the Great Recession. History will whitewash the facts that most of the policies that set it in motion predated him, and the actions taken after the crisis (TARP) worked and did keep things from getting much worse. (Cue the misinfomred babling about TARP destorying the free market or some crap)

So when the question is asked who CAUSED the Great Recession Bush will probably always get the vote.

If they started to ask why does the Recession Persist? That may eventually swing in Obama’s direction.

Critic2029 on December 19, 2013 at 3:34 PM

I’m more curious what it will look like in 2018. Will voters be less forgiving of Dogeater once he’s out of the way and they’re free to admit to themselves he was a lost cause all along? It’s the only last chance they have at redemption… though I’ve written most of the country off as irreparably stupid since 2012.

Gingotts on December 19, 2013 at 3:34 PM

They just can’t admit they made a mistake when they voted for Obama. Even as they stand in the unemployment line 5 years after Bush is gone…..

devan95 on December 19, 2013 at 3:35 PM

As always it’s about the question asked.

There is no doubt in my mind, rightly or wrongly, that Bush will be the Hoover of the Great Recession. History will whitewash the facts that most of the policies that set it in motion predated him, and the actions taken after the crisis (TARP) worked and did keep things from getting much worse. (Cue the misinfomred babling about TARP destorying the free market or some crap)

So when the question is asked who CAUSED the Great Recession Bush will probably always get the vote.

If they started to ask why does the Recession Persist? That may eventually swing in Obama’s direction.

Critic2029 on December 19, 2013 at 3:34 PM

And if this is the parallel to follow, very useful to remember over the course of the next year, that 1938 was brutally ugly for FDR and the Democrats, regardless of what people thought of Hoover.

Gingotts on December 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Fixed. And the people being polled are whatever the level beyond weapons grade stupid is.

Physics Geek on December 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

The next level is called Rachel Jeantel.

Bishop on December 19, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Exit question: What’ll these numbers look like in 2016? Gulp.

If this country is insane enough to elect Hillary(or any other Dem for that matter) for essentially Obama’s 3rd(and likely 4th) term because a majority of voters still blame Bush and the GOP for the economy when the other party’s been running the show for 8 years, then I’m moving to Canada. There’s no cure for stupidity of that magnitude.

As far as the numbers as they currently stand, I’d love for anyone who still blames Bush for the economy to explain to me A) how a man who’s been out of office for 5 years can be responsible for the current economic conditions and B) what exactly they’re expecting out of Obama who’s been President nearly as long as Bush was and has done nothing to improve the situation. If the answer to the latter question is not a damn thing, then why is he there?

Doughboy on December 19, 2013 at 3:38 PM

It’s okay
You can admit it
Buy one or two
Or even ten
Christmas presents for yourself

Christien on December 19, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Wasn’t the economic downturn a result of the housing bubble crashing and the upside down mortgagee’s bailing out in record numbers ala foreclosure. Throw in a little CRA seasoning and out of control FM/FM bundling practices that caused it to happen. Has it been that long? And no one in the Clinton administration has been held to account yet.

DanMan on December 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Seems to me this is because of the notta-recovery. Had the country experienced even mildly competent economic leadership, we wouldn’t be floating on the QE stock bubble and new unemployment claims wouldn’t be reestablishing high-water marks. Instead, people would be working -or at least re-entering the job market- and public confidence would be on the rise. We wouldn’t still be talking about economic malaise and the question wouldn’t need to be asked.

That this is over the head of most ABC/WaPo (et al) poll responders isn’t all that surprising.

BKeyser on December 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM

A classic push poll. The poll asks “how much” do you blame Bush, signaling that the question of whether or not Bush carries any blame for today’s economy has already been answered, we’re just trying to figure out how much blame — all? some? not much?.

It is a “how long have you been beating your wife?” question. And, of course, Gallup knows that.

Rational Thought on December 19, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Why is this even news? Bush left a far bigger mess than most anticipated, I’m not sure Obama can ever entirely clean that mess up.

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM

I believe the economic disaster is the result of having too many douchebags from both parties in high office.

Cut their pay in half, term limit them, and require that they can’t work in government lobbying for ten years after leaving office, and see what sort of people apply for the job; can’t be any worse than the fuds we get now.

Bishop on December 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Older voters are more likely to blame Pres. Obama because they were around for the Reagan years, and are aware 4 years is enough to drag an economy out of malaise, just as 4 years is enough to drag it into one.

Sgt Steve on December 19, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Why is this even news? Bush left a far bigger mess than most anticipated, I’m not sure Obama can ever entirely clean that mess up.

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Are you implying that Obama is too incompetent to clean up the mess or that no man or woman alive is up to the task? If it’s the former, I’m inclined to agree. If it’s the latter, then you’re an idiot. Reagan inherited a worse situation than Obama and managed to turn things around in 2 1/2 years.

Doughboy on December 19, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Hard to find this surprising. To this day, most people don’t lay the blame for the depression on Roosevelt. Hoover is portrayed as the culprit there, nevermind the fact that Roosevelt’s policies made it worse.

Erich66 on December 19, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Why is this even news? Bush left a far bigger mess than most anticipated, I’m not sure Obama can ever entirely clean that mess up.

nonintelligent on December 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM

What Bush inherited:

1. The original 9/11 attacks, which bin Laden himself said were supposed to take place on Clinton’s watch.

2. The predatory mortgage lending that later caused the crash, which was put in place by Clinton’s DOJ after they threatened to sue lenders. Clinton’s Assistant Attorney General in charge of same shakedowns was Eric Holder.

3. A totally corrupt Democrat Media, who never forgave Bush for “stealing” Florida from Algore. Of course, Gore would never have needed to win Florida to become President in 2000, except for the Inconvenient Truth that he was rejected by the voters of his own home state.

4. F-

Del Dolemonte on December 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Why is this even news? Bush left a far bigger mess than most anticipated, I’m not sure Obama can ever entirely clean that mess up.

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM

What? A community organizer with zero executive experience and a penchant for racism can’t fix things, the deuce you say!

Bishop on December 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Please quit reacting to postparticiple.

Its comments are too perfectly timed and too perfectly leftily phrased to be anything other than Alla or MKH ‘Bishing’. Hell, maybe even Ed is fvckin’ with us.

Lanceman on December 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM

A a majority of Americans also think Space Aliens regularly visit Earth; that if you keep your razor under a pyramid it will stay sharp forever; and that Elvis is still in the building. So the real question is NOT what Americans believe. It’s ‘Is What a majority of Americans Believe Correct?’ And the verdict? Not So Much.

potkas7 on December 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Read the wording of the actual poll question. There is no way a whole bunch of people are going to blame Obama because he is black. They don’t want to appear racist so they don’t tell the truth.

Johnnyreb on December 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Why is this even news? Bush left a far bigger mess than most anticipated, I’m not sure Obama can ever entirely clean that mess up.

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM

The reality is starting to set in that community agitators don’t make very good leaders, eh?

antipc on December 19, 2013 at 3:49 PM

This has a lot to do with the media never blaming Obama for anything. Imagine if a Republican President had screwed-up the Affordable Health Care launch, had used the IRS as his personal gestapo, been responsible for Fast and Furious, Benghazi, etc., etc.,etc.

bw222 on December 19, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Del Dolemonte on December 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM

A+

DanMan on December 19, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Why is this even news? Bush left a far bigger mess than most anticipated, I’m not sure Obama can ever entirely clean that mess up.

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM

That evil George Bush strikes again. The most stupid man on the planet manages to fool everyone once again! The stupid it burns…….

Oh, and I am convinced that Ed or Allah pays partisan to come in and dump turds occasionally to up their traffic.

Johnnyreb on December 19, 2013 at 3:50 PM

And if a Republican (ever) gets back into the White House, he’ll be blamed as soon as he’s sworn in. The LSM will see to that.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 19, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Oh, and I am convinced that Ed or Allah pays partisan to come in and dump turds occasionally to up their traffic.

Johnnyreb on December 19, 2013 at 3:50 PM

DAMMIT! partisan IS one of them! Quit reacting to it!

Am I the ONLY one who sees this???

Lanceman on December 19, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Not to worry. After Obamacare is finished ruining about 90 million American’s lives no one is even going to remember who Bush was.

Cherokee on December 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM

When will Hot Air quit posting these bogus polls?

Amjean on December 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM

As smart and competent as Obama, he is still only a man, not a god

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Seems to simply mean that either the poll is complete rubbish – or ‘most Americans’ are.

Midas on December 19, 2013 at 3:55 PM

As smart and competent as Obama, he is still only a man, not a god

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Ok, now I know you’re just trolling. The word “competent” should never be anywhere near Obama. Especially in the wake of Healthcare.gov. And BTW, I think referring to him as a man is being too generous.

Doughboy on December 19, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Clinton left Bush the asset bubble implosion of 2000. The economy recovered because economies are mostly cyclical.

Our current economy would have mostly recovered by now if Obama had simply done nothing. Instead, he pushed terrible fiscal and regulatory polices that have been an economic drag.

And every new regulation the Obama administration puts in place ships more jobs overseas.

blink on December 19, 2013 at 3:52 PM

are you phucking kidding me?

Clinton left Bush a friggin surplus for the first time in decades

I’m pretty sure if everyone’s being honest, we’d all like to return to the Clinton days

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:57 PM

As smart and competent as Obama, he is still only a man, not a god

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Barbara Walters disagrees…….

Johnnyreb on December 19, 2013 at 3:57 PM

As smart and competent as Obama, he is still only a man, not a god

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM

See, even the liberal DB’s are downgrading the Messiah, based on performance I assume.

antipc on December 19, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Why is this even news? Bush left a far bigger mess than most anticipated, I’m not sure Obama can ever entirely clean that mess up.

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM

You might not be sure, but I am quite sure Obama is incapable of cleaning up any mess. These include those he, himself, is responsible for.

DaveDief on December 19, 2013 at 3:59 PM

are you phucking kidding me?

Clinton left Bush a friggin surplus for the first time in decades

I’m pretty sure if everyone’s being honest, we’d all like to return to the Clinton days

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:57 PM

What surplus? The CBO projected a surplus over 10 years(and Obamacare shows how useful their “projections” are), but that didn’t factor in those little things like the 2000 recession, the dot-com bubble burst, 9/11, and the Enron and WorldCom accounting scandals. Like President Gore would’ve somehow magically dodged the economic effects of those disasters?

Doughboy on December 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM

How about restating the question, “Knowing the fact the Democratic party has had majority control of Congress since January 2007, who do you blame for the poor economy?”….

hillsoftx on December 19, 2013 at 4:01 PM

As smart and competent as Obama, he is still only a man, not a god

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Ok, now I know you’re just trolling. The word “competent” should never be anywhere near Obama. Especially in the wake of Healthcare.gov. And BTW, I think referring to him as a man is being too generous.

Doughboy on December 19, 2013 at 3:57 PM

But you must admit that he may actually be competent…just not in a way that we view competence nor in a way that benefits 99% or so of the American people. If he is a front man for certain groups and individuals with self-serving agendas, then he is indeed a success story.

“smart”…uh, no.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 19, 2013 at 4:01 PM

are you phucking kidding me?

Clinton left Bush a friggin surplus for the first time in decades

I’m pretty sure if everyone’s being honest, we’d all like to return to the Clinton days

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Tossing the B$ flag. Clinton didn’t leave anyone a surplus. Gingrich did. Presidents do not do budgets, Congress does.
Presidents can only sing or veto budgets. Clinton turned hard right after the mid terms. Sorry and try again.

Johnnyreb on December 19, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Hahahah. Reading this thread. The comments, they write themselves often enough…

Logus on December 19, 2013 at 4:03 PM

are you phucking kidding me?

Clinton left Bush a friggin surplus for the first time in decades

I’m pretty sure if everyone’s being honest, we’d all like to return to the Clinton days

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Where’s your outrage on our current debt/deficit situation.

antipc on December 19, 2013 at 4:03 PM

How about restating the question, “Knowing the fact the Democratic party has had majority control of Congress since January 2007, who do you blame for the poor economy?”….

hillsoftx on December 19, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Or how about this: President Obama has been in office for more than five years. President Bush left office over five years ago. Whom do you hold more responsible for the current state of the economy?

Rational Thought on December 19, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Nearly five years into Obama’s presidency, most Americans still low information voters

FIFH

AH_C on December 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM

What surplus? The CBO projected a surplus over 10 years(and Obamacare shows how useful their “projections” are), but that didn’t factor in those little things like the 2000 recession, the dot-com bubble burst, 9/11, and the Enron and WorldCom accounting scandals. Like President Gore would’ve somehow magically dodged the economic effects of those disasters?

Doughboy on December 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Would President Gore have wasted trillions and blood on Iraq?

Would President Gore have signed such a fiscally irresponsible tax cut?

Maybe bush isn’t responsible for the entirety of his disastrous economic legacy, but he sure as hell didn’t do anything to help the economy along

clinton basically laid the framework for sound economic policy, all bush had to do with not do anything

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I go further. I blame Bush for the failure of Obamacare. If Bush hadn’t left the country so unprepared for a government takeover of healthcare, Obamacare would be so much further ahead than it is today.

Just try to prove me wrong!

Axeman on December 19, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Where’s your outrage on our current debt/deficit situation.

antipc on December 19, 2013 at 4:03 PM

oh I am outraged, believe you me

that’s one of the reasons why I supported romney over obama during the 2012 election

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Constant leftist propaganda + Weak minds = “Nearly five years into Obama’s presidency, most Americans still blame Bush for economic problems”

TeaPartyNation on December 19, 2013 at 4:09 PM

clinton basically laid the framework for sound economic policy, all bush had to do with not do anything

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Yeah, by signing stuff the Republican Congress sent over.

Axeman on December 19, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Limbaugh theorem in action. Obama has worked hard to be seen as nothing more than a spectator in his own administration of course they blame Bush more.

bannor on December 19, 2013 at 4:09 PM

How can the majority of people be so stupid?

sadatoni on December 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM

What surplus? The CBO projected a surplus over 10 years(and Obamacare shows how useful their “projections” are), but that didn’t factor in those little things like the 2000 recession, the dot-com bubble burst, 9/11, and the Enron and WorldCom accounting scandals. Like President Gore would’ve somehow magically dodged the economic effects of those disasters?

Doughboy on December 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Very true, but what Nonsense said is firmly in the echo chamber at water coolers and pool tables across America.

However, I’m not one to let GWB off the hook altogether. Under him Medicare Part D went through, then there’s TARP, the ethanol mandate, and like the reasons or not, two very expensive wars and expansion of our military elsewhere in south central Asia, $5 billion of “aid” to African countries…

Still, much better than this monstrosity in the White House and his henchmen in Congress.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 19, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Would President Gore have wasted trillions and blood on Iraq?

Would President Gore have signed such a fiscally irresponsible tax cut?

Maybe bush isn’t responsible for the entirety of his disastrous economic legacy, but he sure as hell didn’t do anything to help the economy along

clinton basically laid the framework for sound economic policy, all bush had to do with not do anything

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM

President Gore would’ve had to do something in the wake of 9/11. There’s no way in hell he wouldn’t have gone into Afghanistan. As for Iraq, who knows? A lot of Democrats were calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein before Bush even announced his candidacy. So it’s entirely possible Gore would’ve taken some sort of action against him.

Gore would’ve signed a tax cut. Maybe not the two that Bush signed, but he ran on a smaller tax cut and would’ve been crucified if he backtracked on that after taking office.

The financial crisis still would’ve happened though because the framework for that was laid by Clinton as you conveniently overlooked(or were too ignorant to know). The repeal of Glass-Steagal happened under Clinton, not Bush. The risky loans that banks and lending institutions were forced to make began under Clinton, not Bush. And President Gore wouldn’t have lifted a finger to reverse either of those policies.

Doughboy on December 19, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Unbelievable.

rightConcept on December 19, 2013 at 4:18 PM

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 4:09 PM

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

How can the majority of people be so stupid?

sadatoni on December 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM

antipc on December 19, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Two words:
Lapdog.

Media.

socalcon on December 19, 2013 at 4:22 PM

So,…um,…is Hopey responsible for anything he does, or, his
failed policies that is!!!!

canopfor on December 19, 2013 at 4:23 PM

oh I am outraged, believe you me

that’s one of the reasons why I supported romney over obama during the 2012 election

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 4:09 PM

O_o

Is the Obama presidency failing?
No.
Took out Osama Bin Laden.
Got us out of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.
Saved US auto manufacturing.
Provided inspiration to millions if not billions around the world with galvanizing speeches.
etc

nonpartisan on November 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Square that circle.

Bishop on December 19, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Change one word and the entire perception of events can be dramatically different.

For instance:

Bush spent money

Obama invests money

BobMbx on December 19, 2013 at 4:25 PM

I think it would be the same results if the question was:
“Who is to blame for Obama getting elected President in 2008?”

albill on December 19, 2013 at 4:25 PM

I’m not surprised. Pravda and Izvestia have done a good job not reporting on the failure of Obama and the Democrats economic policies. We still have no idea where all the stimulus funds went and our illustrious free press has no inclination to find out.

The Republican Party has a serious media problem and they have to deal with it. If they don’t start calling out this worthless group of media mavens, they may never be able to debate issues again. If people aren’t informed about the issues, how do you discuss them?

bflat879 on December 19, 2013 at 4:26 PM

oh I am outraged, believe you me

that’s one of the reasons why I supported romney over obama during the 2012 election

nonpartisan on December 19, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Then don’t you shoot your own agument in the foot by saying you support Romney instead of Obama?

Romney, better or worse, would have done a 180 degreee pivot from the polices of the Obama Admistration AND Democratic Congress, especially for the first 5 years.

What economic policy that Bush created that lead to lending millions to “Green Energy” start ups that…SHAZAM!…failed within 3 years of the checks being cashed?

TARP & QE I, II, III weren’t ALL Bush era projects, IIRC, some of them were double downs by the current Administration and they STILL have yet to show any sort of recoup of losses.

I don’t mind partisan hack points, that’s to be expected, but stop acting as if this is Day One for Obama and that he’s just a poor lil’ old minority all stuck with this BIG OLD problem that if ONLY we let him do…something, he can fix lickity-split.

He’s supposed to be a leader, not a child…if he can’t lead then he should have the onions to pass the baton to someone that CAN, and not sit there with some stupid “DUH” look plastered to his mug.

BlaxPac on December 19, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Or if Romney was now President wonder who would be blamed for it?
Bush, Obama, Romney?
Bet the first and the last names…

albill on December 19, 2013 at 4:28 PM

The real problem with America is that so many of our citizens are just plain ignorant fools.Obama owns this economy morons!

redware on December 19, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Very important results. It proves most Americans are dumber then rocks.

derft on December 19, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Therefore it follows that “most” Americans are blatantly stupid.

rplat on December 19, 2013 at 4:47 PM

How can the majority of people be so stupid?

sadatoni on December 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM

In another poll I saw, 51% of the sample ranked themselves as Democrat. Surprisingly, the poll showed that the same 51% of the sample could not distinguish their a$$ from a hole in the ground. It’s true that the Republicans may be the Stupid Party. But it is a sure thing that the Democrats are the Brain Dead Party. Can we pull the plug yet?

NOMOBO on December 19, 2013 at 4:48 PM

As smart and competent as Obama, he is still only a man, not a god

nonintelligent on December 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM

1. We don’t know how smart is is, because he refuses to release his transcripts. Bush released his.

2. He hasn’t been “competent” at anything in his entire life. He couldn’t even write a piece for Harvard Law Review, which was the very first time in the history of that University that had ever occured.

3. He’s the Messiah. Barbara Walters told us so.

4. F-

Oh, PS: Another thing Bush inherited from Clinton was an Iraq already in cahoots with al Qaeda. See Clinton’s DOJ 1998 indictment of bin Laden.

Del Dolemonte on December 19, 2013 at 4:50 PM

I wonder how many of those respondents also blame Bush for Obamacare.

Why not blame Clinton, if we can disregard the last 5 years why not disregard the last 13?

The Notorious G.O.P on December 19, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Square that circle.

Bishop on December 19, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Now you’ve done it.

Called him on his lies. I see he’s run away since then.

Bitter Clinger on December 19, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Clinton left Bush the asset bubble implosion of 2000. The economy recovered because economies are mostly cyclical.

blink on December 19, 2013 at 3:52 PM

are you fluking kidding me?

Clinton left Bush a friggin surplus for the first time in decades

I’m pretty sure if everyone’s being honest, we’d all like to return to the Clinton days

nonintelligent on December 19, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Clinton left Bush the internet asset bubble, which was nothing more than economic smoke and mirrors.

But you’re right, the 1990s were so special. First elected President to be impeached, first elected President to leave the deadliest attacks on American soil in history to his successor, first elected President to successfully prosecute a Federal employee for lying under oath about sex, then claim he was above the law for doing the same thing…

The Clinton years were “Seinfeld”. A show about nothing.

Just like you are.

Del Dolemonte on December 19, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Would President Gore have wasted trillions and blood on Iraq?

nonintelligent on December 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM

“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”

– Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”

– Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

Al Gore, 1998: Iraq’s weapons “A Grave Threat”

Sorry, Ethan, but you make it too easy.

F-

Del Dolemonte on December 19, 2013 at 4:58 PM

I cannot figure out the reasoning behind this. Or maybe people are just going “Obama GOOOOOOOOOD! Bush BAAAAAAAAAAD!” when the polling company comes a-calling.

Aitch748 on December 19, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Why don’t some enterprising columnists provide graphs, bar or otherwise, showing the debt that has accrued year by year since Obysmal has taken office? How about the number of jobs lost in that time? How about the increase of people on food stamps or unemployment benefits, including those on disability?

What about the numbers of Americans who no longer have health insurance?

How about a graph showing the differences in real income and how it has steadily dropped?

How about a graph showing the loss of interest income in savings between the two presidents?

How about some facts about what the price for a gallon of gas is/was? Or the cost of a loaf of bread? Or the cost of cereal? Etc.

Some idiots need to see a picture to tell the real story.

onlineanalyst on December 19, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Don’t forget, Clinton can be blamed for not having the guts to prevent 9/11. He had Bin Laden but was afraid to kill him cause a few innocent Afghan women and children might be harmed. Instead we got 3000 innocent Americans dead. Of course liberals will always see that as a great trade off.

The Notorious G.O.P on December 19, 2013 at 4:59 PM

IOW, most Americans are morons.

Ward Cleaver on December 19, 2013 at 5:04 PM

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