Is “Die Hard” a “Christmas movie”?

posted at 5:51 pm on December 19, 2013 by Allahpundit

As the pre-Christmas news lull begins to bite, we take up questions of crucial cultural importance. Should Phil Robertson have been suspended? Is Santa white? Where did Pajama Boy ever get the idea that it’s appropriate for a grown man to wear a onesie? And what about “Die Hard”? Is it or is it not the greatest Christmas movie of all time?

Of course it isn’t. It’s not a Christmas movie in any material sense. Stop being silly.

Yes, Die Hard is set during Christmas (at an office holiday party, no less). Yes, there are some accoutrements of Christmas, Santa Claus outfits and the like, that pop up during the film. Yes, at some point someone says “ho ho ho.” But that doesn’t mean that it fits into the genre of “Christmas Movie.” A Christmas Movie is a movie that is specifically about Christmas: A Miracle on 34th Street, It’s a Wonderful Life, National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation, etc. These are all Christmas Movies. They are movies that are not only set during Christmas but also are actively about Christmas.

Precisely. Matt Lewis elaborates:

1). The holidays must be an integral part of the storyline. This is sort of like defining pornography — you know it when you see it. But some films use the trappings of Christmas merely as a backdrop or a prop. Die Hard is a terrific film, and it certainly benefits from the music and imagery of the holiday season. But (like Lethal Weapon) this film would have worked without that conceit. John McClane could have just as easily have headed out to Los Angeles for Thanksgiving — or spring break. To be sure, Christmas creates a nice ambiance, but isn’t a vital part of this story.

2). The film should be released at Christmastime. One could probably overlook the first concern if the movie had been sold as a Christmas movie. Just like when we interpret the Constitution, it’s important to look at the original intent. And it’s interesting to note that Die Hard was released on July 14, 1988 — right in the middle of a very hot summer. There was no attempt to label it a holiday film. And it would be revisionist history to suggest otherwise. Compare that to It’s a Wonderful Life (December 25, 1946), or even Love Actually (November 6, 2003.)

Frankly, the movie’s less Christmas-y than it could have been. They could have had McClane dress up as Santa at his wife’s request to pose for pics with kids at the office Christmas party. Then Hans and the gang show up and it’s time for Santa to kick ass. As it is, Christmas is nearly an afterthought: It’s there to make the “marital reconciliation” subplot a touch more poignant in an “I’ll Be Home for Christmas” sort of way, but you could swap in Thanksgiving or New Year’s Eve and lose virtually nothing. The best argument I can make for Christmas being somehow essential to “Die Hard” is that it’s true to the film’s (and especially Willis’s) sense of humor. Of course this is how down-on-his-luck wisecracking Detective John McClane would be spending what’s supposed to be the most serene, warm-and-fuzzy holiday of the year. But even there, the joke is basically that this isn’t a Christmas movie. It’s the opposite of the small-town feelgood schmaltz that makes “It’s a Wonderful Life” and “A Christmas Story” canonical.

If you’re in the “Die Hard is the greatest Christmas movie ever!” camp, odds are you’re there for one of two reasons. One: You just can’t quite fully embrace the schmaltzy Christmas movies. Sure, you appreciate the greatness of “It’s a Wonderful Life” and you watch “A Christmas Story” the obligatory three or four times on TBS on Christmas Day like all good Americans do, but they’re just a touch too saccharine, a bit too … Pajama Boy-ish. You need something with balls, something with Bruce Willis throwing terrorists off of roofs. Ralphie may wear a onesie on Christmas, but you don’t, bro. You’re all man. Two: You love “It’s a Wonderful Life” and “A Christmas Story” and all the other schmaltzfests, but you love, love, love “Die Hard,” above and beyond the way most people who’ve seen it love it. (Because, let’s face it, everyone who’s seen it loves it.) You’re a “Die Hard” superfan, ergo any question that involves DH being named as the greatest __________ movie of all time is going to be answered in the affirmative. The greatest “troubled marriage saved by selfless heroism” movie? Yes. The greatest “1980s Japanese business panic” movie ever? Hell yes. The greatest “catchphrase involving the word ‘motherf***er’” movie? Almost certainly, although that requires a cursory review of Samuel L. Jackson’s oeuvre for a firm conclusion. It’s really a simple mathematic equation: “Die Hard” is super awesome + “Die Hard” mentions Christmas a few times = “Die Hard” is greatest Christmas movie evah. It’s really not, though. C’mon.


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Yes, except for 0bama lovin’ onesy wearin’ betas.

cozmo on December 19, 2013 at 5:54 PM

It is as much Christmas as Rudolf the Red nosed reindeer and Frosty the Snowman.

astonerii on December 19, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Of course it is.
Why would you even ask that question?

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Most definitely.

TX-96 on December 19, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Of course it isn’t. It’s not a Christmas movie in any material sense. Stop being silly.

Thank you. “A Christmas Story,” “It’s A Wonderful Life,” “Home Alone,” and “Jingle All the Way” are all Christmas movies, while “A Charlie Brown Christmas” and “The Grinch” are superb shorts, and there’s been a couple of great renditions of “A Christmas Carol.” But “Die Hard”? No. Just no.

Stoic Patriot on December 19, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Oh, please. Of course it’s a Christmas movie. For that matter, so is Bad Santa.

Wendya on December 19, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Alpha males need a Christmas story too…

Hog Wild on December 19, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Pajama Boy-ish?

Let’s see Pajama Boy beat up Scut Farkus.

john bono on December 19, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Stoic Patriot on December 19, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Bless your heart. You and AP can share some coco and discuss 0bamacare.

cozmo on December 19, 2013 at 5:58 PM

That Allah doesn’t think Die Hard is in fact a Christmas Classic speaks volumes about him.

Darksean on December 19, 2013 at 5:58 PM

It is a christmas movie.

Just like Silent Night Deadly Night are Christmas movies.

portlandon on December 19, 2013 at 5:58 PM

It is as much Christmas as Rudolf the Red nosed reindeer and Frosty the Snowman.

astonerii on December 19, 2013 at 5:54 PM

I remember reading an article here on hotgas that pointed out the decrease in “Christmas” movies like The Grinch, and Elf. Guess we are supposed to be confuzzled as my gen-y states.

LaughterJones on December 19, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Not as much as Lethal Weapon.

Bishop on December 19, 2013 at 5:59 PM

MKH tweeted this question. I replied with You asked for a miracle, I give you the FBI.

Someone else replied with Ho, ho, ho. Now I have a machine gun.

The answer is yes, silly Allahpundit. Go make your hot chocolate and put on your onesie, and try talking to your family members about Obamacare.

I R A Darth Aggie on December 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM

portlandon on December 19, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Everyday is Garbage Day.

No-!

BigGator5 on December 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM

RINOs herd. No surprise here…

Blake on December 19, 2013 at 6:03 PM

What is the downside of being ‘wrong’ here?

What is the upside of being ‘right’?

Yeah, I thought so.

chimney sweep on December 19, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Once more:

The “Die Hard” villain’s name? Hans Gruber

The composer of “Silent Night”? Franz Gruber

Coincidence?

I think not.

/AND, “Die Hard” came out at the same time as “Hans & Franz” on SNL, too!

Jazz on December 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM

A thread on this again? No, it’s not a Christmas movie. It’s a routine action movie that was fat on violence and thin on story. We’re giving Matt Lewis more attention than he deserves.

rickv404 on December 19, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Die Hard.
The Long Kiss Goodnight.
Die Hard 2.
Lethal Weapon.
Reindeer Games.
Batman Returns.
The Last Boy Scout.
Behind Enemy Lines.
RED.
All Christmas movies.

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Everyday is Garbage Day.

No-!

BigGator5 on December 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM

+100

portlandon on December 19, 2013 at 6:07 PM

“a bit too … Pajama Boy-ish”

That’s harsh, AP. I’ll let you know now I’ll be mad at you for a couple days.

Dusty on December 19, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Should Phil Robertson have been suspended? Is Santa white? Where did Pajama Boy ever get the idea that it’s appropriate for a grown man to wear a onesie? And what about “Die Hard”? Is it or is it not the greatest Christmas movie of all time?
=============================

NO
Yes
Onsie is an idiot

Die Hard, hmmmm, close,..but Its A WonderFul Life is number 1!!!

canopfor on December 19, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Diehard can’t be a Xmas movie unless there’s a diversity Santa.

workingclass artist on December 19, 2013 at 6:12 PM

It is as much Christmas as Rudolf the Red nosed reindeer and Frosty the Snowman.

astonerii on December 19, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Exactly. Neither of those are about Christ’s birth, therefore are not Christmas movies (according to the linked articles).

Fenris on December 19, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Diehard can’t be a Xmas movie unless there’s a diversity Santa.

workingclass artist on December 19, 2013 at 6:12 PM

How about Officer Powell? (even though he’s a cop and not Santa)

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 6:13 PM

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Mmmm…The Long Kiss Goodnight. I had forgotten that one. Maybe that one is the best Christmas movie ever.

And she dresses up as Mrs. Claus and her daughter dresses up as an angel for the Christmas festivities at the church.

Chris of Rights on December 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Die Hard is as much a Christmas movie as it is a western. Yippee-kai-ay, motherf…..

john1schn on December 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM

It is as much Christmas as Rudolf the Red nosed reindeer and Frosty the Snowman.
astonerii on December 19, 2013 at 5:54 PM

“Frosty is merely a bit of frozen, supernatural ephemera in a stolen hat. A crime, by the way, for which he is never brought to account.”

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM

if you need a christmas movie w/ manly appeal i suggest “Scrooged”. bill murray as a hard drinking womanizing heartless tv executive. not as edgy as john mclane but better than most others.

chasdal on December 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM

If your idea of a christmas movie is guns,killing,explosions and more killing then YES-Die Hard is a Cheristmas Movie.

gerrym51 on December 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM

rickv404 on December 19, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Get in your onesie and have some hot cocoa.

Chris of Rights on December 19, 2013 at 6:17 PM

if you need a christmas movie w/ manly appeal i suggest “Scrooged”. bill murray as a hard drinking womanizing heartless tv executive. not as edgy as john mclane but better than most others.

chasdal on December 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Ya – Bill Murray – “he has a direct line to my funny bone”.

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 6:17 PM

The whole premise of the movie is John McClane is going to a Christmas party at nakatomi plaza. He writes “Ho Ho Ho” on the chest of a dead guy.

The Die Hard soundtrack includes:

Winter Wonderland
Christmas in Hollis
Let it snow, Let it Snow, Let it snow.
Jingle Bells

Come on, It’s a Christmas movie.

portlandon on December 19, 2013 at 6:20 PM

The only thing that Die Hard might be other than a straight up action flick is a gay romance. There is just a little too much bonding between McClane and Al the cop. You’ll remember that the ex-wife only reclaims her married name in the end when McClane introduces her to Al using her maiden name. She saw what was going on and let Al know to keep his hands off her man.

rw on December 19, 2013 at 6:20 PM

And she dresses up as Mrs. Claus and her daughter dresses up as an angel for the Christmas festivities at the church.

Chris of Rights on December 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM

And she knows what to do if you have to jump out a 4th story window into a frozen river….
yaaa baaaby

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Once more:

The “Die Hard” villain’s name? Hans Gruber

The composer of “Silent Night”? Franz Gruber

Coincidence?

I think not.

/AND, “Die Hard” came out at the same time as “Hans & Franz” on SNL, too!

Jazz on December 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM

And don’t forget about Hans Brinker and the Silver Skates!

Whaaa…too Pajama Boy?

Chris of Rights on December 19, 2013 at 6:22 PM

“Die Hard” is not a Christmas Movie.

now “The Ref”, (Kevin Spacey), now THAT’s a Christmas Movie!

Makes me feel right at home, every time!

Tom Servo on December 19, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Come on, Gary Busey shooting the tv while it shows Scrooge asking what day it is, and he yells “It’s goddam Christmas!”, that’s epic film-making right there.

Bonus points for the “End Apartheid” sticker you see on the refrigerator which provides a little clue about the plot for LW2.

Bishop on December 19, 2013 at 6:23 PM

I think it counts as a Christmas movie, although I agree that it didn’t need to be set during the holidays. But the book, Nothing Lasts Forever, took place during Christmas, so they probably figured why bother changing it.

Doughboy on December 19, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Die Hard has been my favorite Christmas movie for several years.

“Now I have a machine gun, HO, HO, HO”

Hera on December 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM

The only thing that Die Hard might be other than a straight up action flick is a gay romance. There is just a little too much bonding between McClane and Al the cop. You’ll remember that the ex-wife only reclaims her married name in the end when McClane introduces her to Al using her maiden name. She saw what was going on and let Al know to keep his hands off her man.

rw on December 19, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Nahh – I don’t buy it.
They were just talking on the radio to fill the time between killing bad guys.
No more than a phone based bromance….
;)

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Diehard can’t be a Xmas movie unless there’s a diversity Santa.

workingclass artist on December 19, 2013 at 6:12 PM

How about Officer Powell? (even though he’s a cop and not Santa)

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Nope…Has to be a Diversity Santa.

workingclass artist on December 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Come on – “Die Hard” has everything you could want from a secular Christmas-time movie – trees, mistletoe, office parties, office party hijinx, a Santa hat, and plenty of red (blood, that is).

Steve Eggleston on December 19, 2013 at 6:25 PM

I’ll go Christmas movie.Regardless if it is or not Allah nailed this one,A+,Comments A+

docflash on December 19, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Is The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly a Civil War movie?

Mark1971 on December 19, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Sorry. Yes, it is just as much as Christmas in Connecticut.

vityas on December 19, 2013 at 6:32 PM

rw on December 19, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Damn, never thought of DH as a prequel to Brokeback Mountain, but you may have a point there.
;-)

TXUS on December 19, 2013 at 6:32 PM

I could point out that It’s a Wonderful Life is NOT a Christmas movie

For one big reason, it is NOT about Christmas!

It is about a man realizing how important his life really is the people who matter to him most but there is nothing specific about the holiday except that the “present” time happens to take place at Christmas time the same thing as Die Hard. In fact, the majority of the film takes place in other times other than Christmas.

What about it has to take place at Christmas? It could play just as well if it was at Easter or Thanksgiving because the core message would remain the same.

And here’s something to think about, it was released in the summer.

NerwenAldarion on December 19, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Secular Christmas Movie … yes.

Put it on one Christmas night with the former inlaws (still on good terms with them). They liked it; no one said a word about it being “inappropriate for this time of year.”

The ‘framing’ for the entire movie is the office Christmas Party. I suppose you could set it as a “New Year’s Eve” party & it might – might – still work, but the backdrop of Christmas adds a lot to it.

BD57 on December 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Die Hard? Really? Only if McClane tells Gruber, “I’ll shoot your eye out”.

Rovin on December 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM

AP writes:

It’s the opposite of the small-town feelgood schmaltz that makes “It’s a Wonderful Life” and “A Christmas Story” canonical.

Huh?

ca·non·i·cal
kəˈnänikəl/
adjective
adjective: canonical

1.
according to or ordered by canon law.
“the canonical rites of the Roman Church”

AP is better off deciding which posts containing banned words should be allowed in the gay Duck Dynasty threads.

/Yippee ki-yay, motherf**ker!

Paul-Cincy on December 19, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Yes, it is.

mythicknight on December 19, 2013 at 6:38 PM

This movie has been a Christmas tradition with our family for years.

We watch it after a few hours at the gun range.

trapeze on December 19, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Nope…Has to be a Diversity Santa.

workingclass artist on December 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Do Agent Johnson and Special Agent Johnson, no relation, count?

Flange on December 19, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Bruce should have taken the opportunity to talk about health insurance. It would have annoyed his enemies to death.

WhatSlushfund on December 19, 2013 at 6:43 PM

I always liked Hart Bochner. Too bad he got killed off early.

Blake on December 19, 2013 at 6:44 PM

We watch it after a few hours at the gun range.

trapeze on December 19, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Now THAT is a Christmas tradition worth having!!!!

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Any movie that has Christmas music in it is, by God, a Christmas movie. I rest my case.

TXUS on December 19, 2013 at 6:44 PM

I love this movie a little more every time I watch it.

WisCon on December 19, 2013 at 6:44 PM

What, no “candy-cane-ass RINO” invective for Allah? You guys are slippin’. :)

Two: You love “It’s a Wonderful Life” and “A Christmas Story” and all the other schmaltzfests, but you love, love, love “Die Hard,” above and beyond the way most people who’ve seen it love it. (Because, let’s face it, everyone who’s seen it loves it.)

+1
“action” genre not even a particular fave but Die Hard is a full-stop terrific movie all around.

But yeah, not a Christmas movie.

inviolet on December 19, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Die Hard? Really? Only if McClane tells Gruber, “I’ll shoot your eye out”.

Rovin on December 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM

rofl

inviolet on December 19, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Hey, it even has a little nose snow in one scene…

Kraken on December 19, 2013 at 6:46 PM

The GrinchPundit Who Stole the Christmas Movie.

Blake on December 19, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Bruce should have taken the opportunity to talk about health insurance. It would have annoyed his enemies to death.

WhatSlushfund on December 19, 2013 at 6:43 PM

But given the personalities in the movie, I could more readily see Gruber giving the hostages a spiel on 0bumblecare – just to torture them a bit before he killed them all.
He seems to me to be more the Dem/OFA type.

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 6:47 PM

WhatSlushfund on December 19, 2013 at 6:43 PM

But, I bet you’ll never find Bruce Willis wearing a onesie.

TXUS on December 19, 2013 at 6:48 PM

OT: A religious guys says he believes homosexual acts are a sin and its non stop coverage on the internet.

Blake on December 19, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Excuse me. Die Hard is my very favorite Christmas movie.

Case.Effing.Closed.

ladyingray on December 19, 2013 at 6:49 PM

The film should be released at Christmastime.

Do your homework, h8er! “It’s a Wonderful Life” was released in the summer.

ladyingray on December 19, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Do your homework, h8er! “It’s a Wonderful Life” was released in the summer.

ladyingray on December 19, 2013 at 6:50 PM

No wonder it flopped at the box office.

rickv404 on December 19, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Sorry, it was released 12/20/46 in NYC, not until 01/1947 for the rest of the country…

ladyingray on December 19, 2013 at 6:54 PM

If Die Hard is a Christmas movie, then so is Trading Places.

RDH on December 19, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Die Hard is the best Christmas movie PERIOD followed closely by Gremlins.

Yakko77 on December 19, 2013 at 6:56 PM

NerwenAldarion on December 19, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Glad to see someone pointed this out – IAWL isn’t any more about Christmas than “Frosty the Snowman” ie it’s not. That said, I’ll not go raining on schmaltz-lovers’ parade about it. That said, Die Hard is a Christmas movie. Hans Gruber saying “Now I have a machine gun … Happy New Year!” does not resonate.

Its inclusion of Run DMC’s ‘Christmas in Hollis’ makes it the most authentically American Christmas movie of the last thirty years.

King B on December 19, 2013 at 6:57 PM

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Excellent!!!

ladyingray on December 19, 2013 at 6:58 PM

. . . people will argue about anything.

Axe on December 19, 2013 at 7:01 PM

And stop incorporating sipping hot chocolate into effeminate characterizations — you people.

*sip*

Hot chocolate rocks.

Axe on December 19, 2013 at 7:02 PM

But, I bet you’ll never find Bruce Willis wearing a onesie.

TXUS on December 19, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Shut your mouth!!
Full disclosure: I am the self-appointed president of the Bruce Willis fan club… ;)

ladyingray on December 19, 2013 at 7:02 PM

If Die Hard is a Christmas movie, then so is Trading Places.

RDH on December 19, 2013 at 6:55 PM

You’re right!
How could we forget about Aykroyd in the Santa suit – totally trashed?

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Hot chocolate rocks.

Axe on December 19, 2013 at 7:02 PM

With the right (alcohol based) additives….

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Full disclosure: I am the self-appointed president of the Bruce Willis fan club… ;)

ladyingray on December 19, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Are you Mary Ross?

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Reasons why Die Hard is undeniably a Christmas movie (that haven’t already been addressed):

1. Holiday Travel: We see John take a crowded 747 from NYC-LA in order to spend time with his family.
2. Giant Stuffed Bear: any movie with a giant stuffed bear (that isn’t animated) is almost always a Christmas movie.
3. Symbolism: You can’t tell me that the thousands of cascading steel girders in the upper floors aren’t meant to bring to mind tinsel.
4. College Football: If the movie isn’t set at Christmas, then you can’t have the security guard pretending to watch a bowl game.
5. Dinner at Wolfgang’s: You mean to tell me that a sleazy tv reporter is going to score reservations at a primo restaurant on any old night? No, it’s going to be when all the normal people are at home with their families.
6. Virgin Birth?: Holly’s secretary is super-pregnant and there is NO mention whatsoever of a father.

SaveFarris on December 19, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Anyone who doesn’t think it’s a Christmas movie obviously didn’t see the deleted scene where Hans Gruber puts on a onesie and talks about the virtues of government-mandated health insurance.

It’s not only a Christmas movie, it was decades ahead of its time.

malclave on December 19, 2013 at 7:11 PM

It’s really a simple mathematic equation: “Die Hard” is super awesome + “Die Hard” mentions Christmas a few times = “Die Hard” is greatest Christmas movie evah. It’s really not, though. C’mon.

Yeah, it is. The equation holds and the sum is what it is. Greatest. Christmas. Movie.

tommyboy on December 19, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Anyone who doesn’t think it’s a Christmas movie obviously didn’t see the deleted scene where Hans Gruber puts on a onesie and talks about the virtues of government-mandated health insurance.

It’s not only a Christmas movie, it was decades ahead of its time.

malclave on December 19, 2013 at 7:11 PM

They had to delete that scene – it was far too graphic to see the hostages tortured that way – it would have pushed the movie to a “mature audiences” rating.

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 7:14 PM

The greatest “1980s Japanese business panic” movie ever?

No that would be Gung Ho

terryannonline on December 19, 2013 at 7:20 PM

I love Hot Chocolate. I mean wow, when she slips out of that negligee and walks towar….

Uh wait, you meant, you meant the…uh…the drinking kind of hot chocolate. Ah, umm, let’s see here, yeah that’s good too.

*whistles a little tune*

So how about that weather out there, huh? Yeah wow.

Bishop on December 19, 2013 at 7:22 PM

No. At least, not according to 200 results for “Christmas movies” from imdb.com.

Sorry, AP.

Christien on December 19, 2013 at 7:27 PM

I’m glad we have the atheist to tell us what is and isn’t a Christmas movie

pervcon on December 19, 2013 at 7:31 PM

Yes, at some point someone says “ho ho ho.”

And at another point, the hacker robber starts to say “T’was the night before Christmas” as he describes the SWAT team heading to the building.

What says Christmas more than a man reuniting with his wife during the Holidays?

LoganSix on December 19, 2013 at 7:38 PM

HO HO HO. Now I have a machine gun.
What is not Christmas about that?

Don’t tell me what my Christmas is Allah. I’ll decide that.

Die Hard 2 is the second best of all time, btw.

eski502 on December 19, 2013 at 7:55 PM

yes .

trailortrash on December 19, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Die Hard is not a Christmas movie..It is a very good movie..imho..:)

Dire Straits on December 19, 2013 at 8:12 PM

chasdal on December 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM

I would say Bad Santa with Billy Bob Thorton was a manly Christmas movie..imho..:)

PS..Scrooged was a good choice also..:)

Dire Straits on December 19, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Oh heck yeah it’s great Christmas movie! I mean, come on, I’ve seen IWL about a million times (slight exaggeration, but what the hey), and it’s good. I love Jimmy Stewart and Ward Bond, but after a while it becomes pretty tame. On the other hand, they never completely wrecked a brand new building, threw bad guys off the roof, destroyed a helicopter, expended a couple of thousand rounds of ammunition and saved Christmas for all the good little boys and girls worldwide!
What’s not to like? So, yep, it’s a Christmas movie!

lfwest on December 19, 2013 at 8:44 PM

“Frosty is merely a bit of frozen, supernatural ephemera in a stolen hat. A crime, by the way, for which he is never brought to account.”

dentarthurdent on December 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM

He’s obviously an anarchist!

Solaratov on December 19, 2013 at 8:52 PM

King B on December 19, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Just pointing out that the criteria used to disqualify Die Hard can be used to disqualify It’s A Wonderful Life.

It’s A Wonderful Life does not really incorporate Christmas anymore than Die Hard did. And as for the second qualification, it was not released at Christmas time either so therefore It’s A Wonderful Life is not a Christmas movie anymore than Die Hard is. So if It’s A Wonderful Life IS a Christmas move than Die Hard can be qualified as such, and if Die Hard is not considered one, then you can’t consider It’s a Wonderful Life either.

NerwenAldarion on December 19, 2013 at 8:52 PM

If your idea of a christmas movie is guns,killing,explosions and more killing then YES-Die Hard is a Cheristmas Movie.

gerrym51 on December 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Having spent more than a couple of Christmases being shot at – and successfully shooting back – and with a few explosions to punctuate the action…

…Yes, indeed! Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

Solaratov on December 19, 2013 at 8:57 PM

WTF?!?!? Of course it’s a Christmas movie!!!! Along with Trading Places and Coming to America!!! I have to watch all three every Christmas. I believe the computer hacker (the side kick from Walker) was even singing 12 Days of Christmas while breaking into the vault.

JAGonzo on December 19, 2013 at 8:59 PM

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