New WH advisor thinks Republicans are “a cult worthy of Jonestown”; Update: Apologizes

posted at 12:01 pm on December 18, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

This piece from Politico on the man brought in by Barack Obama to rescue his second term from hubris and incompetence contains no small amount of irony, especially coming within hours of Barbara Walters’ admission that the media saw Obama as “the Messiah” in 2008.  John Podesta, who founded and chaired the Center for American Progress until the White House called, wasn’t ever going to be a voice for moderation and outreach.  However, calling Republicans the equivalent of a murderous cult is just a little sharp-elbowed for an administration whose leader claims not to be “particularly ideological”:

According to interviews in recent weeks with an array of Obama insiders and a dozen current and former senior aides, Podesta’s hire is explicitly meant to shake things up inside the White House. In effect, I was told, it represents the clearest sign to date of the administration’s interest in shifting the paradigm of Obama’s presidency through the forceful, unapologetic and occasionally provocative application of White House power. Podesta, whose official mandate includes enforcement of numerous executive orders on emissions and the environment, suggested as much when he spoke with me earlier this fall about Obama’s team. “They need to focus on executive action given that they are facing a second term against a cult worthy of Jonestown in charge of one of the houses of Congress,” he told me.

“I think [White House officials] were naturally preoccupied with legislating at first, and I think it took them a while to make the turn to execution. They are focused on that now,” Podesta added. “They have to realize that the president has broad authority, that he’s not just the prime minister. He can drive a whole range of action. They always grasped that on foreign policy and in the national security area. Now they are doing it on the domestic side.”

How Podesta chooses to execute is not a settled question, and how his formidable personality meshes with Obama’s no-drama palace guard—led by gatekeeper-in-chief McDonough—remains to be seen. Genial, wonky and self-effacing in calm times, Podesta is also known for having a short fuse; subordinates in the Clinton White House even had a name for angry Podesta—“Skippy”—a sulfuric evil twin so fearsome that even the brash Rahm Emanuel scrambled for cover. “It will be culture shock,” said one Democrat close to the White House. “But I guess Skippy will be the bad cop, and Denis will be the good cop.”

Hey, look, sometimes I’m no fan of GOP and grassroots strategies, either, and have argued that they’re self-destructive politically. No one’s committing mass murder by dictated suicide, though, and the comparison is both outrageous and ridiculous.  Arguing by analogy is also a legitimate tactic for debate and criticism. However, at a certain point, hyperbole says more about the wielder than it does about the target, and Podesta’s viewpoint here makes it clear that he’s an extremist — which says volumes about the President who hired him, and about his plans for the next three years.

Rory Cooper, a GOP strategist, reminds people that Jonestown was a lot more than a political analogy — especially for Democrats:

National Journal’s Ron Fournier wants the White House to explain Podesta’s approach:

Don’t expect much better from Pfeiffer, though.  This was the same White House adviser that compared a Senate filibuster to a suicide bombing back in October. This isn’t a new turn at the White House as much as it is a shrugging off of the false veneer of moderation. That’s why they turned to Podesta in their moment of crisis.  Their own cult of personality is failing as the incompetence of this administration becomes fully exposed, and their answer isn’t to clean house but to find a meaner True Believer to attempt a strategy of projection.

New tone, huh? By the way, a judge yesterday threw quite a wrench into Podesta’s governing strategy yesterday, at least in terms of carrying it out quietly:

Chastising what she called “the government’s unwarranted expansion of the presidential communications privilege at the expense of the public’s interest in disclosure,” U.S. District Judge Ellen Seal Huvelle ruled the Presidential Policy Directive on Global Development is not exempt from FOIA.

Judge Huvelle’s 20-page decision took a shot or two, or three, at the Obama administration’s penchant for secrecy.

“The government appears to adopt the cavalier attitude that the President should be permitted to convey orders throughout the Executive Branch without public oversight, to engage in what is in effect governance by ‘secret law,’” Huvelle wrote.

The Center for Effective Government, formerly known as OMB Watch, filed a FOIA request in 2011 for the document. It is not classified, and has been widely distributed within executive agencies. The Obama administration nonetheless sought to keep the document to itself, claiming an executive communication privilege under FOIA.

This is an important case; as Huvelle noted, it’s the first time an administration sought to apply the executive communication privilege to an executive directive. The administration’s legal posture, Huvelle declared at various time, was “limitless” and “unbounded.”

That’s the same perception they have of executive power, too. Hopefully Podesta & Co. will find themselves disappointed in that area as well.

Update: Our new Salem colleagues at Twitchy have more reaction.

Update: Podesta apologized to John Boehner on Twitter (via the Washington Post):

Yeah, he’s “always respected” that cult leader. Riiiiiight. At least Podesta offered a real apology rather than the non-apology “sorry if that offended anyone” apology.

Update: Speaking of snark, my friend Olivier Knox at Yahoo News drops the snark hammer on Podesta and his apology:

In a notable de-escalation of the White House’s rhetorical war on its critics, an incoming senior adviser to President Barack Obama has compared House Republicans and the tea party to the infamous Jonestown cult that was behind one of the worst mass-murders of civilians in history. And then apologized. …

Still, how is that first comment a de-escalation, you ask, quite reasonably? Well, it really wasn’t that long ago that the White House was unrepentantly comparing the House GOP and the tea party to terrorists with bombs strapped to their chests. This is arguably a little less inflammatory. The United States isn’t waging a global military campaign against cults, after all. Or that could just be my snark getting in front of my judgment.

Olivier makes a good point, though, about the ubiquity of the phrase “drink the Kool Aid” as criticism in politics.  That’s a direct reference to Jonestown, too, but it’s a bit more oblique and isn’t quite as directly referential to the mass murder/suicide thanks to decades of use in criticism across the political spectrum.


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ToddPA on December 18, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Up the ante all ya want…just words.
A little late (and convenient) to suddenly be oh so offended by them.

Did you read Podesta’s apology?
It should be a mantra for Hot Air commenters.
I mean, you gotta relate, right?

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:20 PM

kcewa on December 18, 2013 at 12:48 PM

…indeed, and obama lets him…McCain went to the Ukraine, in support of the thousands on the street…and lordy, lordy, I can’t stand McCain any longer…but where is obama?

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2013 at 1:21 PM

A little late (and convenient) to suddenly be oh so offended by them.

NO one here is “offended”…wake up already.

Did you read Podesta’s apology?

That was not an apology, just like “that’s no knife”.

It should be a mantra for Hot Air commenters.
I mean, you gotta relate, right?

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:20 PM

You don’t know us at all, but keep pretending.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2013 at 1:23 PM

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Meh. Few are offended that you and Podesta feel threatened enough to insult and attempt to disrupt any dissent. In fact, considering the sources, your very presences are a positive sign.

Christien on December 18, 2013 at 1:23 PM

All they need is to bring Rahm back.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2013 at 12:15 PM

They’re trying to get Zeke as part of the deal.

freedomfirst on December 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM

I guess in the same week ‘conservatives’ pile on Paul Ryan, it makes sense they’d suddenly embrace and advocate for political correctness.

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Why can’t liberals live by their own standards, including Political Correctness, Alinsky?

ExpressoBold on December 18, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Few are offended that you and Podesta feel threatened enough to insult and attempt to disrupt any dissent. In fact, considering the sources, your very presences are a positive sign.

Christien on December 18, 2013 at 1:23 PM

It’s interesting that the White House, which claims to want to work in a bipartisan fashion, would condone one of their own calling Republicans cultists. Remember that the next time the lazy stupid shiftless coward talks about wanting to hear good ideas- no matter where they come from.

Were I Boehner, the next time I was hosting Dems at some meeting, all I would offer is kool-aid.

Happy Nomad on December 18, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Exhibit 1099 why it’s better to be quiet…sometimes. NO one here advocated PC.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2013 at 1:20 PM

You’re not waiting around for me to be quiet, are you?
Indeed it’s right in line with PC logic.
I know you’re a free speech absolutist. Podesta’s clear intention was to criticize (snarkily) some Repubs/TPs…that’s all.
Spinning this as some ‘insult to the memory of the victims of Jonestown?
Please.

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:27 PM

So Podesta goes from telling us, “Everyone lies about sex,” to, “Everyone lies about keeping your doctor.”

Akzed on December 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM

I imagine you’re somewhat aware of what gets dished out in these pages alone, not to mention regularly by bloggers, politicos, talk radio blowhards, etc.
 
verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 12:12 PM

 

Three hotair points to the first person who can tell us what is different about the jobs.
 
rogerb on December 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM

 
The first, unlike the others, is an official representing the leader of the free world, who was elected to public office to represent all constituents, not just fellow travelers.
 
Christien on December 18, 2013 at 12:33 PM

 
So you’re suggesting that there may be a minor difference between usage by an anonymous blogger or radio host with a fake name and an elected official with the ability to mandate decades-long educational standards for every child across the country?

rogerb on December 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Meh. Few are offended that you and Podesta feel threatened enough to insult and attempt to disrupt any dissent.

Christien on December 18, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Ha.
Sure, that’s what’s happened.
/ sarc

And are you really that insulted?
Really?

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:29 PM

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Continuing to prove what a complete and utter fukking moron you are.

Keep digging fukktard.

LOL

HumpBot Salvation on December 18, 2013 at 1:31 PM

You don’t know us at all, but keep pretending.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Um, ok…no pretending…
um…Schadenfreude?

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:32 PM

“We need better liars around here. Call Podesta.” -0b00ba

Akzed on December 18, 2013 at 1:33 PM

“They need to focus on executive action given that they are facing a second term against a cult worthy of Jonestown in charge of one of the houses of Congress,” he told me.

So, this Podesta guy doesn’t much like Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats either.

Bitter Clinger on December 18, 2013 at 1:36 PM

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Continuing to prove what a complete and utter fukking moron you are.

Keep digging fukktard.

LOL

HumpBot Salvation on December 18, 2013 at 1:31 PM

If only I could follow your example.
The substance, the wit, the content, the articulation…

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:36 PM

“They need to focus on executive action given that they are facing a second term against a cult worthy of Jonestown in charge of one of the houses of Congress,” he told me.

So, this Podesta guy doesn’t much like Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats either.

Bitter Clinger on December 18, 2013 at 1:36 PM

That is SO offensive!
Tell him, everyone.
Ha.

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Yesterday WaPo was calling Republican voters “haters” as a matter of course, as if it were the standard shorthand.

Suicide cultists
and haters in two days. I guess they’re prepping the battle field.

Akzed on December 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Podesta’s clear intention was to criticize (snarkily) some Repubs/TPs…that’s all.

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:27 PM

“Criticize”? Oh, how delicate. Podesta’s clear intention was to insult and denigrate, referencing the benighted victims of a suicidal socialist cult. Sort of like Obamacare die-harders.

de rigueur on December 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Podesta’s clear intention was to criticize (snarkily) some Repubs/TPs…that’s all. verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Huh, and here I took it as a blessing.

Akzed on December 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM

And are you really that insulted?
Really?

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Wow, you said “really” twice. And with a question mark! Because using the word “really” shows you’re sophisticated and intelligent.

Or just childish and illiterate.

kcewa on December 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM

kcewa on December 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM

It’s pronounced “weawwy.”

de rigueur on December 18, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Wow, you said “really” twice. And with a question mark! Because using the word “really” shows you’re sophisticated and intelligent.

kcewa on December 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Oh man…now you’re upset all over again.
Yes, I did use that word 2 times.
(But you know you did, too. Really.)

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Up the ante all ya want…just words.
A little late (and convenient) to suddenly be oh so offended by them.

Did you read Podesta’s apology?
It should be a mantra for Hot Air commenters.
I mean, you gotta relate, right?

Ummm, you DO realize I’m a poster in Cyberspace, right??

Podesta is a Government Official, is he not??

Now back to your whimisical theory that I can “relate”

How much does Podesta make a Year??

No, I do not relate…..

ToddPA on December 18, 2013 at 1:44 PM

If only I could follow your example.
The substance, the wit, the content, the articulation…

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Yawn, and still a fukking moron. Oh and the irony. LOL. It’s like you don’t even read your own comments before you hit submit.

HumpBot Salvation on December 18, 2013 at 1:44 PM

That is SO offensive!
Tell him, everyone.
Ha.

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM

So the latest tactic of liberals is to scream that you shouldn’t be offended when people call you names.

After they sh*t their pants over Sandra Fluke being called a slut.

So what verbaluce is arguing is that conservatives are more intelligent and emotionally stable adults who can take insults, while liberals like himself and Barack Obama are unstable, emotionally and intellectually-retarded children who might kill themselves if they ever were made to feel bad by anyone saying anything.

We will tolerate lectures about how we should be better from liberals when liberals admit that conservatives ARE better in every respect than liberals are.

northdallasthirty on December 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM

So, this Podesta guy doesn’t much like Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats either.

[Bitter Clinger on December 18, 2013 at 1:36 PM]

Well, he couldn’t meant the House. The last time there was a Jonestown cult in the House was when Barry had Red Brigade Nancy make Bart Stupak and last of the Blue Dog Dems off themselves over Obamacare.

Dusty on December 18, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Maybe we should just come to a realization: this attitude reflects their real personalities (harsh, judgemental and absolutist) and for Republicans to expect civility or anything close to it from progressives is ridiculous. Moreover, governing by “secret order” and acting forcefully through executive action without benefit of legislation or public comment is in fact the way they have shown us they like to work. Expecting them to suddenly subscribe to the established norms of traditional American republican democracy is also ridiculous.

So what do we have here, with the progressives? Secret government operated by Stalinists?

The time between now and the midterms is going to be hair-raising. Also, any Republicans (like McVain) who think for even a moment they can “effectively govern” in the face of these anti-Constitutionalists are just plain nuts.

MTF on December 18, 2013 at 1:46 PM

That is SO offensive!
Tell him, everyone.
Ha.

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Such wit!
Such substance!
Such content!

LOL.

HumpBot Salvation on December 18, 2013 at 1:47 PM

I know you’re a free speech absolutist. Podesta’s clear intention was to criticize (snarkily) some Repubs/TPs…that’s all.

That was not snark; that was utterly stupid. The guy was a leftie…drink they aid, morons on the left…it all sprung over there…by a leftie guy.

Podesta is a thug, always, a sinister one. He proves to also be a dummy who doesn’t know what he says, in his thuggish zeal, and then attributes it to snark.

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Verbie just makes up things, in idiotic ways.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2013 at 1:51 PM

verbaluce, is pretending to live in a world in which nobody is offended (or pretends to be offended) by off-hand remarks.

blink on December 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Cue the John Lennon song “Imagine” which describes a commie/atheist utopia.

Imagine all the people
Sharin’ all the world
Yoo Hoo

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one.
I hope someday you’ll join us.
And the world will live as one…

Happy Nomad on December 18, 2013 at 1:53 PM

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Not at all, champ. Your constant mewling and pathetic disruptive behavior are good signs that the dissent is cutting all y’all to the quick. More, please.

Christien on December 18, 2013 at 1:53 PM

northdallasthirty on December 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Nice analysis. But this one’s “arguments” are closer to the self-amusements of a grade schooler’s prank phone calls: “Is your refrigerator running?” Only too easy to imagine her doubled over in laughter at her latest riposte:

Wow, you said “really” twice. And with a question mark! Because using the word “really” shows you’re sophisticated and intelligent.

kcewa on December 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Oh man…now you’re upset all over again.
Yes, I did use that word 2 times.
(But you know you did, too. Really.)

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:43 PM

In other words, “I know you are, but what am I?” High hilarity indeed. Weawwy.
Nothing more than self-aggrandizing “gotcha” giggles.

de rigueur on December 18, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Gosh, verby. It’s like nobody’s tolerating your snotty, petulant, deflective, b.s., Trolling anymore.

Sure stinks to be you.

kingsjester on December 18, 2013 at 1:57 PM

kingsjester on December 18, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Merry Christmas, KJ!

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 2:00 PM

stop being oh so offended.

verbaloon on December 18, 2013 at 12:12 PM

You offend us with every post, O’Cultist.

F-

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Podesta is a thug, always, a sinister one. He proves to also be a dummy who doesn’t know what he says, in his thuggish zeal, and then attributes it to snark.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Sounds scary!

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Hey, look, sometimes I’m no fan of GOP and grassroots strategies, either, and have argued that they’re self-destructive politically.

-Ed

I am really disappointed in you, Ed. Comparing our side to this is really short sided. Liberals are allowed to point their cannons and attack as on all angles, our values, our faith, they laugh at us for wanting to preserve the greatness of this country. Yes, I still tear up at a fireworks display on Independence Day because I know what it represents. Not barbecues, not get togethers….it was a gathering of men, drawing a line in the sand, fighting for the freedoms we still fight for today, a declaration. We get enough for the liberals without having it get it from someone supposedly on our side. When someone on our side says something this ignorant, they are drummed out from our own side, we don’t want that representing us, and the media does not shut up about it and tars the entire party. A liberal, well, usually it’s a resume enhancement and usually media silence because they consider it truth. Podesta just vomited on a slow news day. I’m sure many in the media agree.
That’s fine, don’t care what they think, but you kicking the party too, even the ‘grassroots’ which I assume you believe are the tea party because that is grassroots, not paid carpet bombers like the left, but always remember: the Tea Party is a grassroots group of real Americans with a belief in small government, lower taxes, and responsibility for one’s actions. It’s not the groups who have hijacked the name. Shame on you, Ed.

AllahsNippleHair on December 18, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Podesta is a typical lying liberal who is without character, morals or personal integrity. He will say and do anything to further his liberal agendas.

rplat on December 18, 2013 at 2:07 PM

I feel no shame, because us O’Cultists are incapable of such an emotion. The only emotion we have is unrequited love for our Cult Leader.

verbaloon on December 18, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Edited to reflect your shallow reality.

So, are you going to go Groupie again this year and follow O’Leader out to Kailua Friday night? I’m sure he’s saving a pair of kneepads just for you.

Now wipe off your chin!

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 2:08 PM

After they sh*t their pants over Sandra Fluke being called a slut.

So what verbaluce is arguing is that conservatives are more intelligent and emotionally stable adults who can take insults, while liberals like himself and Barack Obama are unstable, emotionally and intellectually-retarded children who might kill themselves if they ever were made to feel bad by anyone saying anything.

We will tolerate lectures about how we should be better from liberals when liberals admit that conservatives ARE better in every respect than liberals are.

northdallasthirty on December 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM

A distinction with a difference.
But maybe you don’t see that.
That said, all he did was call her a name.
If only Podesta’s snark was as a big a fail as Limbaugh’s, you might be ok with all of it.

No lecture here…just pointing out some b.s. outrage.

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 2:08 PM

A lunatic progressive makes an outrageous comment about a conservative; the lunatic progressive gives it a couple of days to marinate in the media; the lunatic progressive gives a non-apology apology; the media and conservatives drop it; the comment stays in the gullible mind of half the sheeple.

It’s the Democrat way!

cajunpatriot on December 18, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 2:08 PM

(You need some new lines. I don’t expect any.)

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Verby needs to slow down on the “beluga” or it’ll get an ache in it’s little tum-tum.

Take good care of yourself. You belong to us.

Christien on December 18, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Podesta would honor Boehner all the way up to ordering his execution via twitter…

Murphy9 on December 18, 2013 at 2:12 PM

I’m not the least bit surprised at these types of comments coming from the WH staff anymore. What I am more surprised about is that this time the response wasn’t “well what I meant was…” (see biggest lie of the year) and insinuate that anyone who didn’t catch their “real” meaning must be an idiot. Then they’d go whip out a phone and take a self-congratulatory selfie to gloat about their “cleverness” and giggle like a frat boy. That’s more their style. Apologies also mean nothing to them. It’s another joke.

scalleywag on December 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM

‘Drink the koolaid’ is on the list of offensive terns now?

Wow…that’s gonna be a tough one to eradicate.

verbaloon on December 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM

wiki is your friend:

…1982 statement from Lane Kirkland, then head of the AFL-CIO, which described Ronald Reagan’s policies as “Jonestown economics,” which “administers Kool-Aid to the poor, the deprived and the unemployed.”

-snip-

In 2002, Arianna Huffington used the phrase “pass the Kool-Aid, pardner” in a column about an economic forum hosted by President George W. Bush.[

-snip-

In a 2009 speech, Newsweek editor Jon Meacham stressed his political independence by saying, “I did not drink the Obama Kool-Aid last year.”

-snip-

Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz, who said that he “drank the Kool-Aid as much as anyone else about Obama”

Democrats all.

F-

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 2:14 PM

If only Podesta’s snark was as a big a fail as Limbaugh’s, you might be ok with all of it.

verbaloon on December 18, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Limbaugh in reality increased his audience and sponsor base with that “fail”, but you’re too dense to realize it.

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 2:08 PM

(You need some new lines. I don’t expect any.)

verbaloon on December 18, 2013 at 2:09 PM

You need a few brain cells, but I’m not holding my breath.

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM

What a perfect choice as a new member of the Obama administration. Poesta reflects an inability to win an argument / debate based on facts but instead relies on demonizing, vilifying, and engaging in personal attacks against those who dare to hold any opinion different from his own. Liberals lack the respect for opposing opinions and for those who hold them. They must, instead, FORCEFULLY bend those with differing opinions to their will…or either completely destroy them.

If Republicans could possibly equated to a Jonestown Cult that would mean the Obama administration is the equivalent to Hitler and Nazis / Nazi Germany. NO APOLOGY FORTHCOMING…

easyt65 on December 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM

verbaloon on December 18, 2013 at 12:12 PM

You offend us with every post, O’Cultist.

F-

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM

I wouldn’t say we’re “offended.” It’s sort of like when you’re walking down the street and come across a pile of dog poop. You’re not really offended, but you’re going to avoid it anyway.

CurtZHP on December 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM

No lecture here…just pointing out some b.s. outrage.

verbaloon on December 18, 2013 at 2:08 PM

If the outrage was so b.s., why did the Democrat apologize in the first place?

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Podesta is an authority on Jonestown because he served as the mayor for many years.

Herb on December 18, 2013 at 2:24 PM

‘Drink the koolaid’ is on the list of offensive terns now?
Wow…that’s gonna be a tough one to eradicate.
Who here promises to never use that term again?
Is there a single Hotarian…or person…who hasn’t used that term?
And for sure not at all with any intention of causing any pain to your friend.
My folks are from Ireland, I grew up in Boston…and even I called it a ‘Paddy Wagon’.
I guess in the same week ‘conservatives’ pile on Paul Ryan, it makes sense they’d suddenly embrace and advocate for political correctness.

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM

John Podesta didn’t say ‘drink the kool aid’. He said Jim Jone’s cult, the people, not the ending action.
Never mind calling John Boehner the ‘cult like leader’ is laughable, especially after this week after he stabbed his base in the back and the base fought back.
Jim Jones was a socialist. He tried to create a socialist utopia, but in reality, he just wanted total control, he wanted to take over everything in one centralized planning center: himself.
Sound familiar? Liberals always project.
Now, do you prefer cherry or grape, verbie?

AllahsNippleHair on December 18, 2013 at 2:29 PM

I come here every day in the hopes that verbaldunce has posted something, just anything.

If he posts nothing, my day has been a total loss.

If he posts anything at all, my day is hopeful and meaningful.

/s

MisterElephant on December 18, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Let me see if I got this straight: we’re the cultists, but they think Obama is the Messiah.

errr … yeah.

PackerBronco on December 18, 2013 at 2:39 PM

‘Drink the koolaid’ is on the list of offensive terns now?
Wow…that’s gonna be a tough one to eradicate.
Who here promises to never use that term again?
Is there a single Hotarian…or person…who hasn’t used that term?

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM

As I recall…

Me.

Mainly because I find it, not offensive, but infantile.

Rather the way I regard you.

clear ether

eon

eon on December 18, 2013 at 2:40 PM

The comment in question came from John Podesta, a veteran of political knife fights under Bill Clinton. Podesta later apologized on Twitter, saying, “my snark got in front of my judgment.”

“I apologize to Speaker Boehner, whom I have always respected,” Podesta tweeted.

Still, how is that first comment a de-escalation, you ask, quite reasonably? Well, it really wasn’t that long ago that the White House was unrepentantly comparing the House GOP and the tea party to terrorists with bombs strapped to their chests. This is arguably a little less inflammatory. The United States isn’t waging a global military campaign against cults, after all. Or that could just be my snark getting in front of my judgment.

“If this is the attitude of the new White House, it’s hard to see how the president gets anything done again,” a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner, Brendan Buck, emailed reporters.

And the communications director for Republican House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Rory Cooper, weighed in: “This type of appalling and inflammatory rhetoric is a very troubling sign of how this White House plans to govern over the next three years.”

Buck and Cooper are understandably not going to let Podesta’s comment slide by. After all, members of the so-called Peoples Temple murdered a lawmaker, Democratic Rep. Leo Ryan of California, and wounded one of his aides, Jackie Speier, who is now a House member from California. They also killed some journalists — all before Jones orchestrated the mass murder.

But, you know, it’s not like the White House’s legislative agenda was steaming right along unhindered and will only now face Republican opposition.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Podesta possesses neither judgement nor snark.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM

If the outrage was so b.s., why did the Democrat apologize in the first place?

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Because they’re worried the remark backfired and hurt them more than Repubs. I know, that was rhetorical.

Christien on December 18, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Podesta is a nasty piece of work. He intends to push every agenda item that he can via executive order, most especially those issues under the guise of “climate change.”

The game will be “catch us if you can,” and the Obysmal administration will have those power-grabbing EOs in place very quickly, knowing that the wheels of real justice and public exposure will be ground very, very slowly.

Ed, everything that Obysmal does is politically motivated, and the point of calling him on those sleazy tactics is the job of pundits and the press. I really cannot say that Obysmal has been wise in his actions or words; he has simply been treated with kid gloves by a weak media. The original sequester came from his administration via the advice of Jack Lew. The “partial shutdown” was Obysmal’s choice via the the stubbornness of Harry Reid in negotiating/legislating/compromising in good faith.

onlineanalyst on December 18, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Why should we care what the democrat’s version of Joseph Goebbels utters? We shouldn’t, because if we do, he wins.

CTimbo on December 18, 2013 at 3:03 PM

No, don’t apologize, because what you say first is what you meant.

The Nerve on December 18, 2013 at 3:13 PM

“Ed – You mean that Podesta isn’t working perfectly on day one?”

mankai on December 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Working quite well, in fact.

Podesta was brought in for only one reason – he’s a stone cold hit man. Don’t mistake this for an accident, it was just a little “howdy” from Podesta, and don’t underestimate Podesta’s menace. His arrival is not a good sign – it’s more likely the opening salvo of some Real Bad Sh!t ™ that the regime apparently now feels is its only recourse. Gonna get progressively more ugly (pun intended).

bofh on December 18, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Another point-Jonestown was populated by Democrats, and Jim Jones was supported by Democrats: Di Feinstein, Harvey Milk, George Moscone, Babs Boxer, and so on.

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Sifting thru the Politico article about Podesta’s “apology”. Interesting comment there, from the always-readable Michael Bates:

The “Reverend” Jim Jones was praised by an array of Democrats, including Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale, Joseph Califano, Willie Brown, and Mrs. Jimmy Carter, who dined privately with him as he recommended the U.S. government give Cuba medical supplies. Jones baptized people “in the holy name of socialism” and called himself the Socialist Worker God. His church’s newspaper featured a picture of him shaking hands in Cuba with Black Panther Huey Newton. Jones wanted his followers to learn Russian. He’d left instructions for assets to be sent to the Soviet Union.

Yeah, sounds like a Republican to me.

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Woah! How does that incredible brain of yours manage to keep your lungs going in and out day after day? Even when your not concentrating … like when you are sleeping. Amazing.

rottenrobbie on December 18, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Sad to say, some of verbaloon’s cousins are also commenting at the Politico story:

Remember the Republican Swift Boaters who smeared a Democrat?

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 3:33 PM

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Such wit!
Such substance!
Such content!

LOL.

HumpBot Salvation on December 18, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Such plaid!

CurtZHP on December 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Being fiscally accountable and conservative or abiding by the Constitution is cultlike? Really, Podesta, do you want to go there?

onlineanalyst on December 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM

“Liberation Theology” played a central role in Jonestown…

There were many influences on Peoples Temple and on Jonestown. Peoples Temple was a blend of the beliefs and movements of the 1960′s and 1970′s, and Liberation Theology was one the most influential of those beliefs, a belief that still shapes the world we live in today.

Indeed, it still shapes the world we live in today… our pResident is a 20+ year believer in “Liberation Theology”.

It’s the Theology, Stupid – Obama & Black Liberation Theology

ITguy on December 18, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Good grief. Only a cultist would elect an EMPTY SUIT.

Where do they keep finding these people?

Rethuglican on December 18, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Such plaid!

CurtZHP on December 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM

LOL

HumpBot Salvation on December 18, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Another relevant point: Podesta was hand-selected when he got his job at the Center for Real American Progress (CRAP).

The Red Hand doing the selecting? None other than fellow Leftist Mobster George Soros.

Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Ha.
Sure, that’s what’s happened.
/ sarc

And are you really that insulted?
Really?

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:29 PM

You sure are putting a lot of effort into defending against the hypocrite charge here.

Wouldn’t it be easier for liberals to just live their life by the standards they set? Then you wouldn’t have to be here making yourself look stupid.

Spliff Menendez on December 18, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Spinning this as some ‘insult to the memory of the victims of Jonestown?
Please.

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:27 PM

So, it’s no problem that we consider democRATS to be nothing more than a pack of Adam Lanzas…just one ‘nervous episode’ away from a massacre.

Solaratov on December 18, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Remember the Republican Swift Boaters who smeared a Democrat?

Only “progressives” would consider the truth to be a “smear”.

Solaratov on December 18, 2013 at 5:19 PM

The White House is importing evil into key positions, stealthily and steadfastly, and now here comes the hammer.
The Jonestown statement is just the first of the illegal, defamatory remarks he will make over the time he remains a key White House staffer.
His presence in the White House is to serve two purposes: first, to make outrageous statements which the media will ignore or applaud, but will fire up the left and help to load the campaign coffers, and second, to smooth out the road for the preening petty prince currently there, while preparing the way for queen hillary by use of ruthless political pressure against the enemies of the progressive machine.

maryo on December 18, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Personally I’m tired of being insulted and slimed by the libs and by the GOP establishment. To the libs I say – I can only hope that there are some contrary Republicans who will throw everything they can find in the path of every program your side proposes without worrying about reelection or being PC. To the GOP establishment types who think they can insult conservatives and still use us fo ground support come election time – I say F you, you’re only minimally better than the Left and at times you are just as bad so why should I care who is in office? .

katiejane on December 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM

verbaluce on December 18, 2013 at 1:20 PM

With your record…….Just shut up!

avagreen on December 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Jim Jones’ Jonestown was the concentrated essence of multiculturalism, multi-racialism, Communism and atheism. He wanted it that way, he made it that way, and it played out that way to the end.

David Blue on December 18, 2013 at 7:01 PM

I’ll paraphrase bad news bears… You can take your apologies and shove it right up your azzzz

jaywemm on December 18, 2013 at 7:25 PM

The comment is too broad. Only RELIGIOUS GOP’ers are worthy of cult status.

Bandit13 on December 18, 2013 at 7:40 PM

This is a perfect example of the fascist left and their arrogance in power. Their lip slips. We see them for what exactly what they are as they spout their Alinsky rhetoric. Blaming the opposition of what they in fact are guilty of.
If the rule of law were to ever return, Podesta would be one of those wimpering, craven cowards swallowing his capsule instead of facing his earned and just desserts.

onomo on December 18, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Jim Jones’ Jonestown was the concentrated essence of multiculturalism, multi-racialism, Communism and atheism. He wanted it that way, he made it that way, and it played out that way to the end.

David Blue on December 18, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Multiculturalism, multiracialism, and communism I can agree with, but I call BS on the atheism charge. How ’bout linking your source for this.

Bandit13 on December 18, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Mr. Podesta,
Your apology is not accepted, and when real journalism returns I’ll buy the book chronicling your rise and fall.

I expect a crash and burn.

Faithfully,
Seesalrun in Flyover Country

seesalrun2 on December 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

I thought their complaint about Republicans was that they aren’t cultish enough. They always seem to be disappointed that Republicans won’t get on board with the ‘it takes a village with an elite central command to plot every aspect of our day to day lives from cradle to grave’ philosophy.

Buddahpundit on December 18, 2013 at 9:58 PM

It’s interesting that the White House, which claims to want to work in a bipartisan fashion, would condone one of their own calling Republicans cultists. Remember that the next time the lazy stupid shiftless coward talks about wanting to hear good ideas- no matter where they come from.

First, we all know that this President has no clue about working in a bipartisan fashion. Community Organizers don’t care about bipartisanship, they only care about winning and doing whatever it takes to win, which is why Daley is out and Podesta is in.

The only way to deal with a Podesta is for the Republicans to win the Senate and Keep the House. Obama will never learn to work with Republicans, it’s just not in his DNA, but forcing him to hire someone for the White House who does know would be a step in the right direction. Podesta is not that guy.

bflat879 on December 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM

sometimes I’m no fan of GOP and grassroots strategies, either, and have argued that they’re self-destructive politically. No one’s committing mass murder by dictated suicide, though, and the comparison is both outrageous and ridiculous.

Well… they are pushing Amnesty and I can’t say that won’t set us on a path of suicide of a non-political nature. Political suicide for Republicans yes, but cultural identity/rule of law/and fiscal suicide for all of us on top of that.

Ukiah on December 18, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Knowing that I 1) never took part as a liberal rent-a-mob in San Francisco–or anywhere else, 2) am not a Marxist, 3) would not follow a “reverend” who rented me out to protests, 4) would not follow a “reverend” who threw down a Bible, stomped on it, and said “There are no answers in there”, 5) would not follow my political pimp to a island, and 6) definitely would not drink poison-laced kool-aide at his demand–even with a gun to my head–as was the case in Jonestown, I just have to say “Hunh?

Look closer to home, Podesta, dork.

Axeman on December 18, 2013 at 10:41 PM

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